Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Has anyone had any success with giving their child hempseed oil instead of fish oil? Rona " It is not my aptitude but my attitude that determines my altitude. " -- , Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You said you didn't notice a difference. How many tablespoons did you give her and how long did u give it to her before you came to the conclusion that there really wasn't a difference? Rona " It is not my aptitude but my attitude that determines my altitude. " -- , Sr. [ ] Hempseed Oil Has anyone had any success with giving their child hempseed oil instead of fish oil? Rona " It is not my aptitude but my attitude that determines my altitude. " -- , Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 The more you learn about EFAs -the more confusing they are! The cod liver oil is made from the liver of the fish so it naturally contains vitamin A. Fish oil that is not made from the liver of the fish has no vitamin A. For most CLOs the DHA than the EPA (most will find the formulas that are higher in the EPA to the DHA to be superior at a lower dosage -try it and you'll see) So with a pure Omega 3 formula (which isn't what works for most either) you'd perhaps be better off with Coromega or ProEPA which are higher in the EPA. History for how we as a group over time figured out which formula worked best for the majority http://www.cherab.org/information/historyEFA.html Cod liver oil is healthy -but what we use is both healthy and found for years to be much more effective in " working " You would want to stop the cod liver oil and replace that with the following fish oils. The CLO again is higher in DHA and a pure Omega 3 -we found a higher EPA (another Omega 3) to be more effective if you are going to raise the Omega 3. Also we found that we need some Omega 6 for best results. Fish oil not made from the liver of the fish doesn't contain vitamin A. You can't do higher dosages of CLO without caution of overdose of vitamin A. Fish oil not made from the liver of the fish does not contain vitamin A. If you continue to give the CLO with the following you change the formula and dosage -and not in a good way. You raised the Omega 3 DHA and changed the ratio of Omega 3 to Omega 6. http://www.cherab.org/information/historyEFA.html Hope that's not too confusing -as I always say however the good news is that you don't have to understand it for it to " work " and it appears to work in a day to three weeks for almost all! Here's the " protocol " from the archives: Classic formula/dosage we used for years is below. Even if you start at low dosages of the " right " formula you should notice surges in a day to three weeks almost across the board. Today many proceed a bit faster and have seen even more accelerated gains. Most go quickly up to give their child 2 capsules of ProEFA to one capsule of ProEPA --start at once a day and some give that up to three times a day (I always gave them all to my son in one dosage in the AM.. always increase the ProEFA prior to the ProEPA due to ratio) Here is an old archive " I will use the following examples with the brand name ProEFA since that's the formula/dosage that seems to work the best for most of us (Efalex and EyeQ are similar Omega 3/6 formulas that also have good reports) For any brand name of Omega 3/6 formula -you could make the same formula by mixing together fish oil and either primrose or borage seed oil if you prefer -or as found -another brand name with a similar formula (and I hope also a good quality) If you mix two fish oils together which is fine if you know why you are doing that: Look at the amount of DHA, EPA (Omega 3) and the amount of GLA (Omega 6) and then add them all together to see what formula and dosage you now have is. So for those of you that ask - you can mix any brand names together you would like -however what you could change is the three things above (dosage, formula and *quality (*if one of the companies you start using has rancid oils which is not uncommon when it comes to fish oils -so make sure all brands you use are pure) Keep in mind in anecdotal feedback done by parents from all over through CHERAB -that pure Omega 3 or pure Omega 6 either showed no results -or very little results in almost all cases. Pure Omega 3 would include pure cod liver oil, fish oil, flax seed oil without any Omega 6. Seven years ago we talked much about hemp in this group and some of us tried it, but nothing Earth shattering to report. We would have gone ahead no matter what as a group if we did see progress but none of us did -and the main reason none of us really continued or went full steam ahead was due to reports during that time such as this one from the DEA: " It is not clear whether all " hemp " food products contain THC. Some members of the " hemp " industry have applauded the DEA rules and asserted that modern, sound manufacturing methods remove all THC from food products. Other " hemp " food companies claim, however, that their products do contain THC. In light of this disagreement within the " hemp " food business, it important to emphasize, as DEA stated in the rules, that the mere fact that a product has the word " hemp " on the label does not automatically mean that the product contains THC. What matters is whether the product actually contains THC. If the product says " hemp " on the label but contains no THC, it is not a controlled substance and not prohibited under the rules. But if a food product does contain THC, then regardless of the label, the product is prohibited under federal law " http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042803.html Of course that was just for us in the US...and yes also since then there are more products that contain hemp. I found it EXTREMELY difficult to use hempseed oil for my son Tanner for some reason who at that point was eating fish oil off a spoon and would gag on the hempseed oil as clearly to me the fish oil was more disgusting. I'm not saying Tanner hating it made it bad because my son and many others didn't like NV to start either and I had to come up with zillions of strategies to get fish oils into Tanner too -but just saying it was more difficult to add hempseed to the mix for us. However how long did I try it and what did I see? I used up the one bottle which lasted longer than I wanted it to as we didn't see anything and it was an added pain every day of pulling teeth to get it in -no surge but also interestingly no regression as you do when you mix cod liver oil with the right formula of fish oils. I suspect because it is an O3 O6 oil from my recall and probably very healthy. I did continue for years to purchase hemp seed bars which I found to be delicious...so basically I was the only one that ate them -but again no- no difference to report. I can tell you with oil therapy that formula is most important and the other two important aspects are dosage and quality. Even with a poor quality and very low dosage however with the right formula you should notice surges on the right oil therapy (essential fatty acids) I suspect that hempseed in my opinion is not the formula that is needed by our children and I suspect the reason is that it's just not high enough in the EPA...same reason the cod liver oil is not a good formula. But most of the world will have to find that out for themselves over the years. It's OK -I've been doing this for over ten years and I know eventually all will learn it the hard way if they don't want to follow what's worked for the majority for thousands and thousands for years. And once again new but in my opinion top thing for ALL to explore and at least try is NV http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html I can't tell you enough how amazing this is- and I believe this too will be validated not just as helping with neuro repair through providing essential nutrients -but in some ways will surpass the essential fatty acids as a treatment for autism, apraxia, seizure disorders and various other conditions. And PS...you say " how many tablespoons did you give her? " Are you using tablespoons of hempseed oil...daily?! When too much oil is added to the diet for a child that can lead to upset belly and diarrhea even if there is nothing in it that is harmful which is of course unknown still in pediatrics/hempseed as from what I posted above it's still not 100% sure if all is THC free. I do know that if you use the right formula of oil therapy- you should notice surges with even a few drops a day -I know that for a fact. ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i am not sure how much we gave her but we gave her the recommended dose the dr recommended for about 6 mths. From: slimqtpie2006@... Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:04:03 +0000 Subject: Re: [ ] Hempseed Oil You said you didn't notice a difference. How many tablespoons did you give her and how long did u give it to her before you came to the conclusion that there really wasn't a difference? Rona " It is not my aptitude but my attitude that determines my altitude. " -- , Sr. [ ] Hempseed Oil Has anyone had any success with giving their child hempseed oil instead of fish oil? Rona " It is not my aptitude but my attitude that determines my altitude. " -- , Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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