Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

[Guest guest]

Yes!

I know about it!

I have been taking the same product--NutriiVeda--and losing wt--safely!

I'm an SLP in MD, so if u r in this area & have questions, let me know. I'm

happy to help.

Barbara

Warmest wishes,

Barbara A , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director, Help Me Speak, LLC

410-442-9791

[ ] Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

My son Tanner who has apraxia and is now 13 -after a regression on a high

vitamin E supplement last year -has had remarkable surges on a metabolic

ayurvedic product. Looking to see if there are others I can talk to about this.

I was planning on using the product as a fundraiser for research for the PUFAs

affect on speech/apraxia for us...the parents and professionals...never

expecting what I saw in Tanner which was mind blowing for lack of better words.

Here is the direct link to Tanner's story:

http://pursuitofresearch.hmgsuccess.com/?page_id=123 from

http://www.pursuitofresearch.org

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[Guest guest]

This sounds great...but what if your child doesn't need to lose weight?  Would

it make them TOO thin?  THANKS!

in OH

[Guest guest]

..have you taken Tanner off the Omegas??? And when you were unable to

give him the supplement ayurveda was it the same type of regression when he

had too much vitamin E??? This is getting so complicating !!!!!

Roxanne ('s Mom)

by the way is now on weekly immune building subcutaneous shots..and

I have my fingers crossed her own immune system will kick in and she will no

longer need shots. It makes me wonder about the supplement being possibly

helpful for her???

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:53 PM

Subject: [ ] Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

My son Tanner who has apraxia and is now 13 -after a regression on a high

vitamin E supplement last year -has had remarkable surges on a metabolic

ayurvedic product. Looking to see if there are others I can talk to about

this. I was planning on using the product as a fundraiser for research for

the PUFAs affect on speech/apraxia for us...the parents and

professionals...never expecting what I saw in Tanner which was mind blowing

for lack of better words. Here is the direct link to Tanner's story:

http://pursuitofres <http://pursuitofresearch.hmgsuccess.com/?page_id=123>

earch.hmgsuccess.com/?page_id=123 from http://www.pursuito

<http://www.pursuitofresearch.org> fresearch.org

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[Guest guest]

yes Tanner is still on the oils and you probably missed it but right in

my message I say " To me it's another fish oil discovery - even better it appears

to help the fish oils work better in some way. "

Nobody really knows why this product -which is really just an isolate protein

nutrient rich meal replacement powder- has had the effect it has. I suspect

it's the ayurvedic components.

Originally we were looking at this as a fundraiser because how many parents or

professionals need to lose a few pounds??? I put Tanner on it because if you

read his story I wanted him to lose a few pounds and the product was approved by

the doctors I shared it with.

The research we are raising monies for is for PUFAs affect on

speech/apraxia....so yes again to fish oils.

I've been using protein powders myself for years because I work out lots. If

you have friends who are into health or body building they all do. Sadly most

don't -and it's something like 60 percent of Americans are obese- and it's not

just a problem in America.

The regression we see in Tanner is exactly the same as when he is taken off the

fish oils. As some of you may recall Tanner had massive regressions on

Speak...and it took 7 months to get him anywhere near back. He plummeted in

grades as well. When Tanner regresses the first thing that happens is his

speech becomes " bumpy " or he starts to stutter. This product appears to work

just as fast in the positive and taken off just as fast in the regression as the

fish oils do for Tanner. Once again we got a call from his school to ask

" What's going on with Tanner?! " But this time it's because he's had such

dramatic positive surges in so many areas -including speech. You probably

didn't read his story that is at PursuitofResearch.org but this all can be

verified by his school professionals.

I didn't take him off the powder to see " what will happen? " No way!!! -the

first time the product was on backorder and yes he regressed when I took him

off. Then again this past weekend Tanner slept over a friends and only had the

powder before he left Saturday morning and he didn't come home till late Sunday.

He was bumpy Monday (yesterday) Next time I told him we have to pack his

powder. And you know what Tanner said " I'll be back again " I was on the phone

with Robin when he said that. He means he'll just take it again and it'll work

again.

I know reading this it may all appear both confusing and too good to be true

-that's how the fish oils were for me to -for most of us. That's why I

encourage you or anyone else to check it out yourself with professionals that do

understand more than you do. To me the more you dig on this one -it's just as

fascinating as the fish oils as the more you learn -the more you learn you don't

know. Again this is ayurveda which is 5000 year old medicine and I don't claim

to understand it -but I am SO THANKFUL for it and pissed I didn't know about it

years ago.

And PS -Robin said that never had this big of a surge on ANYTHING before

-and they've tried everything from alternative to medications for

Alzheimer's...to fish oils alone.

is now on this and fish oils -and you'll be able to read more today -but

to me this is nothing short of a miracle.

And PS -the golfer in the one video is my neighbor Laurie who my family spent

Thanksgiving with -all those people in those commercials are my friends -real

people. Laurie has now lost 27 pounds on this stuff -the weight 'she' needed

to lose in around 7 weeks and she's never felt more energy. So if any of you

know any professional golfers -go ask them to check this out with Laurie Rinker.

Because this may seem to good to be true...but it's not only that good -it's

better.

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I have to agree! The marketing arm of this website concerns me.

Stefanie

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[Guest guest]

I so much want to believe in Nutriiveda. I keep wanting to purchase it, but

then I get caught up in the multi-level marketing aspect of it all. Why do you

have to purchase 4 cans at once, and why is it automatically charged to your

account each month, as stated at the bottom of the order screen? I would like

the chance to try it out, without committing to it. Kind of like the fish oils-

you can buy one or four bottles, but are not committed to a monthly charge?

>

> ..have you taken Tanner off the Omegas??? And when you were unable to

> give him the supplement ayurveda was it the same type of regression when he

> had too much vitamin E??? This is getting so complicating !!!!!

>

> Roxanne ('s Mom)

>

> by the way is now on weekly immune building subcutaneous shots..and

> I have my fingers crossed her own immune system will kick in and she will no

> longer need shots. It makes me wonder about the supplement being possibly

> helpful for her???

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:53 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

>

>

>

>

>

> My son Tanner who has apraxia and is now 13 -after a regression on a high

> vitamin E supplement last year -has had remarkable surges on a metabolic

> ayurvedic product. Looking to see if there are others I can talk to about

> this. I was planning on using the product as a fundraiser for research for

> the PUFAs affect on speech/apraxia for us...the parents and

> professionals...never expecting what I saw in Tanner which was mind blowing

> for lack of better words. Here is the direct link to Tanner's story:

> http://pursuitofresearch.hmgsuccess.com/?page_id=123

> http://www.pursuitofresearch.org

>

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with the previous email. Anything that has these dramatic results I

would love to add to my sons protocol. However, it is a bit disconcerting that

the program abd subsequent information seem so geared towards sales.

Does anyone that is not involved in the businees opportunity have any

experiences they can provide?

Thanks!

From: gjpekula@...

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:23:35 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

I so much want to believe in Nutriiveda. I keep wanting to purchase it, but then

I get caught up in the multi-level marketing aspect of it all. Why do you have

to purchase 4 cans at once, and why is it automatically charged to your account

each month, as stated at the bottom of the order screen? I would like the chance

to try it out, without committing to it. Kind of like the fish oils- you can buy

one or four bottles, but are not committed to a monthly charge?

>

> ..have you taken Tanner off the Omegas??? And when you were unable to

> give him the supplement ayurveda was it the same type of regression when he

> had too much vitamin E??? This is getting so complicating !!!!!

>

> Roxanne ('s Mom)

>

> by the way is now on weekly immune building subcutaneous shots..and

> I have my fingers crossed her own immune system will kick in and she will no

> longer need shots. It makes me wonder about the supplement being possibly

> helpful for her???

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:53 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

>

>

>

>

>

> My son Tanner who has apraxia and is now 13 -after a regression on a high

> vitamin E supplement last year -has had remarkable surges on a metabolic

> ayurvedic product. Looking to see if there are others I can talk to about

> this. I was planning on using the product as a fundraiser for research for

> the PUFAs affect on speech/apraxia for us...the parents and

> professionals...never expecting what I saw in Tanner which was mind blowing

> for lack of better words. Here is the direct link to Tanner's story:

> http://pursuitofresearch.hmgsuccess.com/?page_id=123

> http://www.pursuitofresearch.org

>

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -just left you a message too but since you brought it up here figured

others may wonder too.

The fundraiser wasn't really supposed to be aimed at our kids- originally we

looked at this as...OK you have a special needs child or children or you work

long hours as a therapist or doctor- the holidays are coming and you don't have

the time to work out...or maybe even eat right. So here's this all natural

product that combines ayurveda with modern science -formulated and endorsed by

leading Harvard educated medical doctors -Dr. Deepak Chopra, and Dr.

Simon, and others...and it's been working. This wasn't an idea we pulled up out

of thin air -I was contacted by Walsh who has made over 6 million dollars

in direct sales in the past few years and who has a grandchild (4 year old

Preston) who was just diagnosed with apraxia...and who's on the Nutriiveda too.

If you go to http://www.nutraeasy.com you'll see me and my neighbor Laurie (the

golfer) my son Dakota's orthodontist (Dr. Ramos) and my friend who is a

fitness model in 15 second commercial spots. Clearly for adults alone of all

shapes and sizes the stuff is amazing and it's approved to pass drug testing for

professional even Olympic athletes. Most of population wants or needs to lose

weight- so get healthy and help raise monies for Cherab -why not?

We are looking to raise the amount of money I left on your voice mail to proceed

in research to validate PUFAs effect on speech/apraxia and as you heard -this

will be a study that will validate it once and for all which is so needed.

Nobody that purchases the monthly supply will be a member of Zrii unless they

choose to be -and then they will have to let me know prior to me placing their

order. Unless I know beforehand -anyone that places an order via the website

will be a " preferred customer " There is no extra cost to be a member however.

As a preferred customer you pay the exact same price as a member- but if you do

lose weight and your friends say " OMG what are you doing to lose weight you look

amazing? " You can send them to the site so they too can become a customer-

perhaps you want to make some extra money from home. Preferred customers

however do not have the ability to make any money. The only way anyone is part

of the business side of it is if they provide a SS number and/or they live in

US, Canada or Mexico. But again -even though it's the exact same price to be a

member or a preferred customer we are not asking anyone to be a preferred

customer -but that would be in my opinion a better way to go for most family's

of special needs children for a few reasons.

Cherab Foundation has a spot in this direct sales company and there are a few

parents and professionals from Cherab that are already involved in this -but

mainly not people from Cherab are involved. The reason I feel it's a great

fundraiser is because people can buy the product if they want- and that's how we

can raise money instead of sending out a " can you donate money to Cherab please "

email to everyone.

The company does have an option to just purchase 2 canisters for 80 dollars but

we didn't include that on the buy now button because we were looking to sell a

one month supply to the adults- and the product comes with a money back

guarantee.

As you can see from the NutraEasy.com website we are marketing to regular people

-athletes, body builders, patients from doctor's offices that need to lose

weight because their doctor recommended it etc. The company Zrii is willing to

ship for Cherab, guarantee the product, and pay Cherab any commission which is

awesome.

I have no stigma against direct sales companies myself...and again if you check

the commercials that some of you may be seeing on cable in your home anywhere in

the USA- we have an 800 number that you can call that will take orders over the

phone.

There may be lots of you that don't want to try the product for yourself, may

not believe that the head of my son's school called us to find out why my son

had such remarkable surges as reported by all his teachers in speech, focus,

reading, grades...sense of humor- I can't even list them all in one sentence.

Some of you may not need to make any extra money -and some of you may rather

just search the web at ebay to see if you can find it cheaper. The price we are

selling the product for is our cost from the company. You'll pay more at

Chopra.com if you buy it there. If you really only want to purchase 2 canisters

for 80 dollars just email me at lisa@... and I can make that happen too.

No biggie. Again we are doing this as a fundraiser and we figure most would

want a one month (adult) supply to try it. But if not -that's cool we have the

rest of the world to market this too. My belief level in this product from my

son and rest of family as well as friends is rocket high. Robin's reports about

are just incredible -perhaps almost too unbelievable for some here to

believe they are really happening.

Bill Farley (Oprah's neighbor and friend and friend of Dr. Chopra) runs the

company and is aware of both Tanner's story as well as now 's.

If you were into body building or working out and drinking protein shakes -then

think of this as nothing different than switching your regular protein shake for

this high quality ayurveda enriched protein shake and just try it. You have

nothing to lose because again the company stands behind all it's products. I

find it interesting that most of the people supporting Cherab right now are

people that don't have a special needs child- especially in light of the

remarkable changes in both my son as well as now Robin's. I also find it

interesting that I've gotten more feedback about 's changes outside of

this group -and that this is the second message that questions the direct sales

side of the company rather than focus on the fact that a TWENTY FIVE YEAR OLD

WHO HAS BEEN MISDIAGNOSED MUCH OF HER LIFE AS MR AND AUTISTIC IS HAVING LIFE

CHANGING RESULTS ON THIS PRODUCT IN DAYS!!! (I mean really! I guess some here

didn't read 's story to see what that poor thing went through???) And

as you know -by the Grace of God there go your daughter -and you know

that. But I guess there may be psychological reasons at play here too for this

group as this (like the fish oils) really does seem to be too good to be true.

I guess I have a tougher skin than most- I was kicked and laughed at and put

down for my belief in the fish oils 10 years ago- so once again I am here

standing up for a natural approach -this one 5000 years old. At least this time

I have Dr. Chopra and his co founder of the Chopra center neurologist Dr. Simon

behind me as well...Yay!!!

And for the person looking for testimonies from someone not involved -I'm sure

that will come up here for ya one day....but don't count on anytime soon because

again I was the first to discover this and based on the skepticism of this group

-and the amount of years to get fish oils accepted here -probably at least 4

years. But good news for you guys is that even at 25 years old is

seeing the changes.

Like someone like me or Robin would make our children's surges up! BTW -not

that I'm giving out my son's school here but I will personally introduce any of

you skeptical people to my son's head of school and teachers -how dare you think

I'd make this up!! This is just what I went through with fish oils...exactly!

I can't wait to archive this for Oprah.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you, , for the clarification and the phone message. I really only

wanted more details, as it really does seem 'too good to be true'. I would

never say that you and Robin were making anything about your children up. I

have the highest respect for you and for what Robin has been through with

. I was only questioning the one aspect of it, as any parent should do

when it concerns their child. As I said, I so want it to work, that I am

actually afraid to try it. It is difficult to weed through so much information,

and to always try to figure out which product to try next, in the hopes it will

make a difference. I researched fish oils for six months before trying them on

my daughter. In fact, anything I have given her has been because I believed in

you and what you had done with Tanner. So please don't think I don't believe

you. I simply was questioning the information I had found. So thank you for

all that you do!

>

> Hi -just left you a message too but since you brought it up here figured

others may wonder too.

>

> The fundraiser wasn't really supposed to be aimed at our kids- originally we

looked at this as...OK you have a special needs child or children or you work

long hours as a therapist or doctor- the holidays are coming and you don't have

the time to work out...or maybe even eat right. So here's this all natural

product that combines ayurveda with modern science -formulated and endorsed by

leading Harvard educated medical doctors -Dr. Deepak Chopra, and Dr.

Simon, and others...and it's been working. This wasn't an idea we pulled up out

of thin air -I was contacted by Walsh who has made over 6 million dollars

in direct sales in the past few years and who has a grandchild (4 year old

Preston) who was just diagnosed with apraxia...and who's on the Nutriiveda too.

>

>

> If you go to http://www.nutraeasy.com you'll see me and my neighbor Laurie

(the golfer) my son Dakota's orthodontist (Dr. Ramos) and my friend who is

a fitness model in 15 second commercial spots. Clearly for adults alone of all

shapes and sizes the stuff is amazing and it's approved to pass drug testing for

professional even Olympic athletes. Most of population wants or needs to lose

weight- so get healthy and help raise monies for Cherab -why not?

>

> We are looking to raise the amount of money I left on your voice mail to

proceed in research to validate PUFAs effect on speech/apraxia and as you heard

-this will be a study that will validate it once and for all which is so needed.

>

> Nobody that purchases the monthly supply will be a member of Zrii unless they

choose to be -and then they will have to let me know prior to me placing their

order. Unless I know beforehand -anyone that places an order via the website

will be a " preferred customer " There is no extra cost to be a member however.

>

> As a preferred customer you pay the exact same price as a member- but if you

do lose weight and your friends say " OMG what are you doing to lose weight you

look amazing? " You can send them to the site so they too can become a customer-

perhaps you want to make some extra money from home. Preferred customers

however do not have the ability to make any money. The only way anyone is part

of the business side of it is if they provide a SS number and/or they live in

US, Canada or Mexico. But again -even though it's the exact same price to be a

member or a preferred customer we are not asking anyone to be a preferred

customer -but that would be in my opinion a better way to go for most family's

of special needs children for a few reasons.

>

> Cherab Foundation has a spot in this direct sales company and there are a few

parents and professionals from Cherab that are already involved in this -but

mainly not people from Cherab are involved. The reason I feel it's a great

fundraiser is because people can buy the product if they want- and that's how we

can raise money instead of sending out a " can you donate money to Cherab please "

email to everyone.

>

> The company does have an option to just purchase 2 canisters for 80 dollars

but we didn't include that on the buy now button because we were looking to sell

a one month supply to the adults- and the product comes with a money back

guarantee.

>

> As you can see from the NutraEasy.com website we are marketing to regular

people -athletes, body builders, patients from doctor's offices that need to

lose weight because their doctor recommended it etc. The company Zrii is

willing to ship for Cherab, guarantee the product, and pay Cherab any commission

which is awesome.

>

> I have no stigma against direct sales companies myself...and again if you

check the commercials that some of you may be seeing on cable in your home

anywhere in the USA- we have an 800 number that you can call that will take

orders over the phone.

>

> There may be lots of you that don't want to try the product for yourself, may

not believe that the head of my son's school called us to find out why my son

had such remarkable surges as reported by all his teachers in speech, focus,

reading, grades...sense of humor- I can't even list them all in one sentence.

Some of you may not need to make any extra money -and some of you may rather

just search the web at ebay to see if you can find it cheaper. The price we are

selling the product for is our cost from the company. You'll pay more at

Chopra.com if you buy it there. If you really only want to purchase 2 canisters

for 80 dollars just email me at lisa@... and I can make that happen too. No

biggie. Again we are doing this as a fundraiser and we figure most would want a

one month (adult) supply to try it. But if not -that's cool we have the rest of

the world to market this too. My belief level in this product from my son and

rest of family as well as friends is rocket high. Robin's reports about

are just incredible -perhaps almost too unbelievable for some here to believe

they are really happening.

>

> Bill Farley (Oprah's neighbor and friend and friend of Dr. Chopra) runs the

company and is aware of both Tanner's story as well as now 's.

>

> If you were into body building or working out and drinking protein shakes

-then think of this as nothing different than switching your regular protein

shake for this high quality ayurveda enriched protein shake and just try it.

You have nothing to lose because again the company stands behind all it's

products. I find it interesting that most of the people supporting Cherab right

now are people that don't have a special needs child- especially in light of the

remarkable changes in both my son as well as now Robin's. I also find it

interesting that I've gotten more feedback about 's changes outside of

this group -and that this is the second message that questions the direct sales

side of the company rather than focus on the fact that a TWENTY FIVE YEAR OLD

WHO HAS BEEN MISDIAGNOSED MUCH OF HER LIFE AS MR AND AUTISTIC IS HAVING LIFE

CHANGING RESULTS ON THIS PRODUCT IN DAYS!!! (I mean really! I guess some here

didn't read 's story to see what that poor thing went through???) And

as you know -by the Grace of God there go your daughter -and you know

that. But I guess there may be psychological reasons at play here too for this

group as this (like the fish oils) really does seem to be too good to be true.

>

> I guess I have a tougher skin than most- I was kicked and laughed at and put

down for my belief in the fish oils 10 years ago- so once again I am here

standing up for a natural approach -this one 5000 years old. At least this time

I have Dr. Chopra and his co founder of the Chopra center neurologist Dr. Simon

behind me as well...Yay!!!

>

> And for the person looking for testimonies from someone not involved -I'm sure

that will come up here for ya one day....but don't count on anytime soon because

again I was the first to discover this and based on the skepticism of this group

-and the amount of years to get fish oils accepted here -probably at least 4

years. But good news for you guys is that even at 25 years old is

seeing the changes.

>

> Like someone like me or Robin would make our children's surges up! BTW -not

that I'm giving out my son's school here but I will personally introduce any of

you skeptical people to my son's head of school and teachers -how dare you think

I'd make this up!! This is just what I went through with fish oils...exactly!

I can't wait to archive this for Oprah.

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sue. Not that I'm an expert in any way in ayurveda -but I have been

speaking with some of the doctors. Ayurveda works with the entire body so from

what I'm told there is no real way it's " only " going to help with one area. The

nutriiveda is not a weight loss product -it's a " weight management " product

meaning it works with what the body's needs are. The same product that my son

(who by the way is 13 years old and now 5 foot 8 inches high and 152 pounds) and

who is 25 uses is also being used by a number of little ones who don't

eat enough or well mixed in with peanut butter on sandwiches, or into yogurt, or

made into shakes served with meals etc.

You are right Sue that we don't know for sure what the correct dosage would be

for children, which is why I say to check with your child's doctor. In general

most appear to be using one dosage a day which is 2 scoops of the vanilla or

chocolate powder which you could use one scoop twice a day or two scoops at

once. Each scoop provides 10 grams of isolate protein and the average child

requires I believe 13 to 50 grams of protein for 1000 daily calories -so one

serving a day (2 scoops) only provides 20 grams of isolate protein and then your

child can eat chicken fingers or macaroni and cheese and together with the

nutriiveda -it's an easy way to get them to eat healthier. That's in regards to

the nutrients...the part that is unknown is the ayurvedic component which

appears to be the magic to this formula.

What I find of great interest...and I just found this out today -is that

is having the surges she is on this product with ZERO supplementation of fish

oils. Robin may start them in a week or month -will council with Mel's doctor

to document this too. Tanner is still on the oils. As one very wise parent

said to me when I said " I just wish I knew why this is working " " we still don't

know why the fish oils work "

Walsh's 4 year old grandson Preston who was recently diagnosed apraxic who

is on the Nutriiveda twice a day has also made significant surges in speech and

in his case with " inconsistent " fish oil supplementation. I've been sent videos

of him and put it this way- he's either been misdiagnosed with apraxia at 4 -or

this is helping create a breakthrough in some way. Again my theory based on

past conversation is that this is helping the metabolic system in some way.

This product is a metabolic meal and vitamin replacement -so check out what

dosages are best for kids. Then again I honestly do not believe the changes

we've seen are from the vitamin aspects...I suspect they are from the ayurvedic

botanicals either individual or the synergistic mix which is in itself called

ayurvedic medicine.

And one other point I want to make...I appreciate that Tanner is larger than

preschool children however he is on in some cases a lower dosage of fish oils

then the preschool children as he's on 4 ProEFA and 2 ProEPA a day. The only

point I want to make is that my son Tanner appears to need the double dosage a

day or he regresses in speech. The last regression was this past weekend when

he slept over a friends and only had one dosage of the nutriiveda a day. And

again in his case his regression is in speech -he becomes dysfluent.

And just one other thing and perhaps Sowmya will jump in...but Sowmya from our

group who is from India said that there is not one thing in the nutriiveda that

is not used in food in India. Again the ayurveda is not just botanicals -but the

synergistic mixture is what makes it " medicine " And again while we are only

used to the medicine of the west -this is the world's oldest medicine and an

area that is just coming to light here.

There are a couple of people who I've outreached to in this area to help -in

addition to Dr. Deepak Chopra and Dr. Simon of course who both helped

formulate and both endorse the nutriiveda.

But it's pretty complex on where to look -here's just two organizations for

example

http://www.crism.net/research.htm

http://www.loaj.com/

And from the company that makes the nutriiveda

http://www.zriiproduct.com/science.html

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I have to agree with what this you regarding this products use. I am all for

using all natural ways of helping our children. I am all for any method of

helping our children recover. But I have to agree to use this with caution.

I myself would never try anything without proper medical sound advice. Most of

us on this board also have children who other underlying issues all along with

Apraxia/Dyspraxia etc.

 

I for one would not even considere using this product for my severely dyspraxic

son who is age 11 yo. He weighs only 67 lbs and is still in a booster seat. He

is short also for 11 yo. My son for one can not lose any weight at all. He is

underweight at 67lbs already. His pediatrician is constantly watching his weight

and growth. So to use anything that might cause weight loss would be risking my

sons medical health and quite possible hospitalization. This is very serious for

my son.

 

Just please be careful with using this or any product regarding weight loss due

to it could cause very serious life threatening reactions. Especially when

little kids are involved.

 

Have there been any studies done on children under age 18 ??

What about its use in toddlers??

 

Just my one opinion.

 

Jeanne and

NH

[Guest guest]

Thank you Robin for being so understanding and willing to share your

information. Of course it is very exciting what is happening with

your daughter and I am truly happy for you! As you can imagine, we

are all trying to sort out the mountain of information regarding

nutrition, supplements, genetics. For those of us with small babies

and children who are apraxic, this is a daunting task.

Forgive us for being skeptics, but there are so many people who are

saying do this...try this....it's all very hard.

Your answer was perfect. I appreciate it.

Stefanie

[Guest guest]

can you email me mykitkate@... and let me know how it goes? Or will you

be updating here? Thank you Kate

>

>

> I just bought one can of the Nutriiveda on the Shop-In Service for CHERAB site

- http://shopinserviceinc2.goestores.com/

>  

> It was easy and cost $45. 

>  

> My son, , is 4 and has made such amazing progress since starting the

fish oil back in July.   I believe in the people who steered us towards it.  The

difference in Coop's speech, eye contact and overall disposition has been truly

astounding.

>  

>

> What's so amazing about fish oil for us is that refused to take

it consistently until this past summer.  Finally, when he reached the ripe age

of 3.8, he was old enough for a bit of bribery and he's taken fish oil every day

since July.  When he went back to preschool in the fall, his teacher's were

blown away by his progress.  His SLP had to re-do his entire IEP because he had

met all his goals!  It was the same story in private speech...his therapist was

overwhelmed by his progress.   This time last year, she told us would be

in speech until he was a teenager.  Now she says he may be finished by the time

he's 7.  It's all so overwhelming.

>  

> The fish oils did the trick!  still has a long way to go with

articulation and some sensory issues.  He's also started OT to help with some

motor planning issues in that department. 

>  

> I'll do anything to help shorten his road to recovery...and $45 bucks seems

like a cheap price when I'm paying about $300 a week in speech therapy. 

>  

> Here's hoping!

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin,

 

My little one currently weights between 28-30lbs( using our home scale) and she

is 2 years and 8 months old.

 

Thank you so much,

 

>

> From: Robin Ketchem <rcketchem@bellsouth .net>

> Subject: Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Does anyone here know about

> ayurveda???

> @groups. com

> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:33 PM

>

>

>

> If anyone has any questions with regards to the Nutraveda, please

> feel free to contact me. The changes are remarkable for and

> our family! Everyone in our family is taking it for a different

> health reason. I am not trying to sell the product. I am just

> trying to share with the group how it is helping my entire family!

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Robin

>

> 770-965-3259

[Guest guest]

I'm sure 's doctor is wonderful but I wouldn't say 's doc

is an expert just because he took a course from the Chopra Center. I still

think each of us has to check with the professionals that we know and trust,

medical doctors, nutritionists dietitians etc. It's something I wasn't aware of

either but clearly the ayurveda " medicine " is being validated today with modern

science and more and more appear to be embracing it. Dr. Simon who co founded

the Chopra Center with Dr. Chopra is a traditional neurologist who became an

ayurvedic medical doctor as well. He has received grants from the NIH on Mind

Body Medicine. He is also on the advisory board for Zrii and these doctors are

aware of what is going on with Tanner..and now .

I could be wrong but I don't think any professionals, even Dr. Simon, know for

sure what dosage is best for our kids because it's something that was not

created for apraxia or autism!! It was created for health. Best thing is to

check with your professionals of choice as I say above and then start with a

scoop (which would be 10 grams of isolate protein) and work up to one full

serving which is 2 scoops. There may be kids that need 3 scoops a day and some

like my son Tanner that need the 2 servings a day which is 4 scoops.

Here's an article from Dr. Simon you can share with your child's doc Again I

would also point them to http://www.pursuitofresearch.org under the product info

on nutriiveda. (and again that's where 's blog is)

~~~~~

Neurology Today:

17 September 2009 - Volume 9 - Issue 18 - p 22-24

doi: 10.1097/01.NT.0000361425.16754.ca

In the Field

Simon, MD: On Integrating Conventional Neurology and Complementary

Medicine

STUMP, ELIZABETH

For conventional clinicians, the words alternative medicine may seem discordant

with practices that are evidence-based. This is why it is important to

distinguish alternative medicine from a mind-body medical approach, said

neurologist Simon, MD, medical director and co-founder of the Chopra

Center for Wellbeing in Carlsbad, CA, which has been a focal point for holistic

medicine since its establishment in 1996.

When queried by Neurology Today about his mind-body approach to treating

neurologic disorders, Dr. Simon explains that what he advocates - stress

management, nutritional counseling, healthy sleep-wake cycles, yoga and

meditation - should be considered complementary to conventional treatment and

regarded as part of a holistic approach - addressing physical, psychological,

emotional, and lifestyle components of health and illness.

Cognitive events impact physiological functions, which over time can influence

health, he said.

Dr. Simon first became interested in holistic medicine during his undergraduate

studies in anthropology. After earning his medical degree in 1977 from the

University of Chicago and finishing his neurology residency in 1983 at the

University of Colorado, he completed fellowships at the University of Colorado

in neuromuscular disorders and epilepsy.

From 1985 to 1994 he was the medical director of the Neurological Rehabilitation

Unit and medical director of the Clinical Neurophysiology Laboratory at the

Sharp Cabrillo Hospital in San Diego, and from 1992 to 1994 he was the chief of

staff at the same hospital. It was during this time that he began his

collaboration with endocrinologist, Deepak Chopra, MD, to develop stress

management programs for patients. Today, Dr. Simon also serves as a voluntary

assistant clinical professor in the department of neurosciences at the

University of California-San Diego School of Medicine.

The most common neurologic complaints he sees at the Chopra Center are multiple

sclerosis and chronic pain. These patients seek and appear to benefit most from

a 'holistic' neurological approach, he said. They are also most open to making

the lifestyle changes required to improve their health and well-being. Although

patients with Parkinson disease, dementia, brain tumors, and epilepsy frequently

seek holistic methods, I don't find the mind-body approaches as relevant in

these conditions, he added.

At the Chopra Center, Dr. Simon leads programs in mind-body medicine, emotional

healing, and spirituality. The prolific wellness book author also demonstrates

integrated mind-body medical programs to medical institutions and health centers

around the globe. His books include Free to Love, Free to Heal (Chopra Center

Press); The Ten Commitments; Vital Energy; Wisdom of Healing (HCI); and Return

to Wholeness (Wiley).

For Neurology Today, Dr. Simon described how neurologic patients can benefit

from holistic care and his methods for integrating complementary and

conventional modern medicine.

Back to Top | Article Outline

WHAT ASPECTS OF COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE DO YOU USE IN YOUR PRACTICE?

Many of my patients participate in a six-day program that includes practicing

stress management approaches, developing healthy sleep-wake cycles, learning

effective communication skills to reduce emotional distress, and undergoing

nutritional counseling. They also receive daily therapeutic body treatments like

massage, and instruction in yoga and meditation. I utilize principles and

practices that integrate holistic healing practices, usually drawn from the

East, with conventional Western medicine.

Back to Top | Article Outline

HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHICH ASPECTS ARE EFFECTIVE?

I closely follow the medical literature on psychoneuroimmunology, psychosomatic

medicine, and nutrition and draw upon scientific evidence to guide my

recommendations to patients. As I believe is true for any clinician in the

field, it's sometimes difficult to know which aspects of a therapeutic regime

are responsible for improvements. In this regard, I listen to my patients, who

often point to their lifestyle changes as an important and at times major factor

contributing to their enhanced quality of life.

Back to Top | Article Outline

COULD YOU CITE AN EXAMPLE FROM YOUR WORK IN HOW YOU MIGHT OFFER A DIFFERENT

APPROACH TO TREATING OR PREVENTING MIGRAINES?

My sense of best medical practices is for a doctor to use the tools that are the

most effective and that have the least likelihood of side effects. If a

pharmaceutical agent is best able to meet the needs of a patient, I prescribe

it. If a behavioral approach offers the best benefit/risk profile, I recommend

it.

For example, the current medical model of migraine headaches focuses on

spreading thalamic-cortical depression and its accompanying neurochemical and

neurovascular changes. We have numerous pharmacological options to influence one

or more component of the pain-invoking cascade.

In addition to the appropriately (sparing) use of medication, I find that

patients with migraines benefit from behavioral approaches that appear to raise

their threshold for the triggering of a migraine attack. These include learning

stress management skills and mindfulness meditation techniques; eating a

balanced diet, rich in antioxidants, with a reduced intake of refined

carbohydrates, caffeine, and alcohol; incorporating a regular exercise program

that includes yoga, cardiovascular exercise, and strength training; developing a

restful sleeping routine; addressing core relationship stresses, and learning

the skills to effectively communicate unmet emotional needs.

Back to Top | Article Outline

HOW DOES YOUR TREATMENT OF A PERSON WITH MS, FOR EXAMPLE, DIFFER FROM A TYPICAL

NEUROLOGIST?

Assuming the diagnosis is correct, I employ appropriate disease-modifying agents

as any neurologists would. Since many of my patients report that their MS

symptoms worsen when they're facing increased stress, I also focus on helping

them follow a lifestyle that supports greater overall emotional and physical

balance. Given the 1,000+ studies documenting the role of stress on immunity, I

place as much importance on helping people manage their lives as I do on

managing their disease.

Back to Top | Article Outline

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN (IN WESTERN TERMS) THE MECHANISM BEHIND HOLISTIC REMEDIES?

Research in the field of psychoneuroimmunology has established the link between

mental and emotional states and immunological function. I also believe that a

person's expectations can influence their response to a diagnosis. Although most

physicians are aware of the placebo effect (and often disparage it), I find that

many doctors are unaware of the nocebo effect - the evidence that negative

expectations have a potentially harmful influence on a patient's outcome.

Teaching patients lifestyle skills to positively manage their health may lessen

the symptoms of their illness.

Back to Top | Article Outline

HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THE EASTERN INFLUENCES WITH THE WESTERN MODEL OF MEDICINE?

DO THEY EVER CONFLICT, AND IF SO, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT?

There are important but manageable differences between the conventional medical

model and the holistic healing traditions commonly associated with the East. The

biomedical model views human beings as molecular machines, and therefore illness

is usually treated through an effort to modify biochemistry. GERD, for example,

results not from work stress, but from hydrochloric acid molecules leaking into

the esophagus. High blood pressure is caused by excessive amounts of circulating

angiotensin molecules, not anxiety over a pending house foreclosure. Depression

is explainable by a lack of serotonin, not whether a person's relationships are

nurturing.

Conventional medicine focuses on the mechanisms of disease, and through this

approach, we have made unprecedented advances in the relief of suffering and the

extension of life.

Back to Top | Article Outline

SO HOW WOULD A HOLISTIC APPROACH BE DIFFERENT?

A holistic approach looks at how a person's interpretations and choices may

influence the course of the illness. For a patient suffering from depression, a

biochemical physician would likely prescribe a course of a selective serotonin

reuptake inhibitor and, perhaps, psychotherapy. A holistic approach would seek

to understand the root imbalances contributing to the depression, taking into

consideration and providing guidance into a patient's lifestyle, activities,

diet, recent stressful events, beliefs, relationships, and patterns of response.

The goal is to show a person that they have choices of how to interpret their

life challenges. A treatment plan would take these behaviors and prescribed

medication into account in an effort to explore what it would take to activate

that person's brain to begin producing mood-elevating neurochemicals.

Back to Top | Article Outline

HOW DO YOU FOLLOW EVIDENCE-BASED MEDICINE GIVEN THAT SOME OF THE COMPLEMENTARY

THERAPIES DON'T HAVE THE SOLID EVIDENCE BASE/CLASSES OF EVIDENCE USED BY THE AAN

AND OTHER MEDICAL SOCIETIES?

The scientific literature contains abundant clues about the role of the mind and

emotions on health and illness. For example, a recent study of interest in

Psychosomatic Medicine in 2009 looked at patients admitted with autoimmune

diseases (including 17 with MS, 10 with myasthenia gravis, and two with

dermatomyositis) The researchers found a statistically significant correlation

between cumulative childhood stress and autoimmune disease decades later.

It has been my experience that many people with chronic illness carry a plethora

of self-defeating beliefs born of early emotional trauma. If a physician can

provide the safety for them to discuss their early family experiences and their

current emotional challenges, a connection between buried emotional pain and

many physical symptoms will be revealed. Listening compassionately to patients

and encouraging them to make healthier choices is the first step in harnessing

the power of emotions for healing.

Back to Top | Article Outline

WHAT CAN NEUROLOGISTS TAKE AWAY FROM READING YOUR NEW BOOK, FREE TO LOVE, FREE

TO HEAL?

In my experience, many patients struggling with chronic neurological illness

carry an underlying story about the meaning of their disease - a story about how

their life circumstances may have contributed to the illness and how they

believe their choices might influence its course. I find that people suffering

with a wide range of conditions, including chronic headache, chronic pain, and

autoimmune diseases, often have an internal narrative that they rarely reveal to

their doctors. A physician's willingness to take the time to explore the hidden

story can lead to insights that improve the patient/doctor relationship, enhance

a patient's quality of life, and in some cases, contribute to genuine healing.

Back to Top | Article Outline

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO NEUROLOGISTS ARE WHO ARE HESITANT TO INCORPORATE

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE OR COMPLEMENTARY THERAPIES?

I'm sure that like me, many neurologists encounter patients who don't respond to

conventional treatments despite the physician's best efforts. When a neurologist

is working with a patient who hasn't responded to standard medical approaches

and they suspect there is an emotional or psychosomatic component to their

problem, I suggest something as simple as teaching a mindfulness meditation

technique.

Although I commonly hear doctors say that patients aren't open to complementary

therapies, I have found that if a doctor says, I'd like you to try this because

I think it might be helpful, most patients will try anything that might possibly

relieve their distress. I'm well aware that the plural of anecdote isn't data,

but this is a way for a neurologist to put his or her toe into the water.

Back to Top | Article Outline

REFERENCE

• Dube SR, Fairweather D, et al. Cumulative childhood stress and autoimmune

disease in adults. Psychosom Med 2009;71:243-50.

| View Full Text | PubMed | CrossRef

© 2009 AAN Enterprises, Inc.

=====

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I am sure Robin will not mind me answering about the ingredients in Nutriveda.

As far as the Ayurvedic ingredients in the Nutriveda goes they are harmless and

most of them are used by me and lots of other Indian homes for centuries in

cooking. On 's request I had explained all the ayurvedic ingredients - you

will find it in the archives.

/message/94054

I started taking it myself from yesterday night. I have had two doses of the

shake[yesterdays dinner and todays breakfast].

I feel really good[ no exaggeration - but have not started losing weight yet]. I

had gained almost 40 lbs after my son's diagnosis!! I don't have the strength or

the mindset to go and do workout after the numerous therapies and working with

my non-verbal 7yr old with severe verbal apraxia.

I have not started it on my son yet.Since he goes to school. I am going to

start on him during the holidays so that I can monitor him 24/7.

The canister says 2 scoops for adults. But it is always good to consult your

doctor who knows your child more. Caution is always good. I am not an expert

just an mom waiting to converse with her son but who knows a little bit about

these ayurvedic ingredients through her grandma.

If you have more questions on the ingredients you can email me privately :

sowk721@...

Good luck,

sowmya

>

> I'm sure 's doctor is wonderful but I wouldn't say 's doc

is an expert just because he took a course from the Chopra Center. I still

think each of us has to check with the professionals that we know and trust,

medical doctors, nutritionists dietitians etc. It's something I wasn't aware of

either but clearly the ayurveda " medicine " is being validated today with modern

science and more and more appear to be embracing it. Dr. Simon who co founded

the Chopra Center with Dr. Chopra is a traditional neurologist who became an

ayurvedic medical doctor as well. He has received grants from the NIH on Mind

Body Medicine. He is also on the advisory board for Zrii and these doctors are

aware of what is going on with Tanner..and now .

>

> I could be wrong but I don't think any professionals, even Dr. Simon, know

for sure what dosage is best for our kids because it's something that was not

created for apraxia or autism!! It was created for health. Best thing is to

check with your professionals of choice as I say above and then start with a

scoop (which would be 10 grams of isolate protein) and work up to one full

serving which is 2 scoops. There may be kids that need 3 scoops a day and some

like my son Tanner that need the 2 servings a day which is 4 scoops.

>

> Here's an article from Dr. Simon you can share with your child's doc Again I

would also point them to http://www.pursuitofresearch.org under the product info

on nutriiveda. (and again that's where 's blog is)

>

> ~~~~~

>

>

> Neurology Today:

> 17 September 2009 - Volume 9 - Issue 18 - p 22-24

> doi: 10.1097/01.NT.0000361425.16754.ca

> In the Field

>

>

> Simon, MD: On Integrating Conventional Neurology and Complementary

Medicine

> STUMP, ELIZABETH

>

> For conventional clinicians, the words alternative medicine may seem

discordant with practices that are evidence-based. This is why it is important

to distinguish alternative medicine from a mind-body medical approach, said

neurologist Simon, MD, medical director and co-founder of the Chopra

Center for Wellbeing in Carlsbad, CA, which has been a focal point for holistic

medicine since its establishment in 1996.

>

> When queried by Neurology Today about his mind-body approach to treating

neurologic disorders, Dr. Simon explains that what he advocates - stress

management, nutritional counseling, healthy sleep-wake cycles, yoga and

meditation - should be considered complementary to conventional treatment and

regarded as part of a holistic approach - addressing physical, psychological,

emotional, and lifestyle components of health and illness.

>

> Cognitive events impact physiological functions, which over time can influence

health, he said.

>

> Dr. Simon first became interested in holistic medicine during his

undergraduate studies in anthropology. After earning his medical degree in 1977

from the University of Chicago and finishing his neurology residency in 1983 at

the University of Colorado, he completed fellowships at the University of

Colorado in neuromuscular disorders and epilepsy.

>

> From 1985 to 1994 he was the medical director of the Neurological

Rehabilitation Unit and medical director of the Clinical Neurophysiology

Laboratory at the Sharp Cabrillo Hospital in San Diego, and from 1992 to 1994 he

was the chief of staff at the same hospital. It was during this time that he

began his collaboration with endocrinologist, Deepak Chopra, MD, to develop

stress management programs for patients. Today, Dr. Simon also serves as a

voluntary assistant clinical professor in the department of neurosciences at the

University of California-San Diego School of Medicine.

>

> The most common neurologic complaints he sees at the Chopra Center are

multiple sclerosis and chronic pain. These patients seek and appear to benefit

most from a 'holistic' neurological approach, he said. They are also most open

to making the lifestyle changes required to improve their health and well-being.

Although patients with Parkinson disease, dementia, brain tumors, and epilepsy

frequently seek holistic methods, I don't find the mind-body approaches as

relevant in these conditions, he added.

>

> At the Chopra Center, Dr. Simon leads programs in mind-body medicine,

emotional healing, and spirituality. The prolific wellness book author also

demonstrates integrated mind-body medical programs to medical institutions and

health centers around the globe. His books include Free to Love, Free to Heal

(Chopra Center Press); The Ten Commitments; Vital Energy; Wisdom of Healing

(HCI); and Return to Wholeness (Wiley).

>

> For Neurology Today, Dr. Simon described how neurologic patients can benefit

from holistic care and his methods for integrating complementary and

conventional modern medicine.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> WHAT ASPECTS OF COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE DO YOU USE IN YOUR PRACTICE?

>

> Many of my patients participate in a six-day program that includes practicing

stress management approaches, developing healthy sleep-wake cycles, learning

effective communication skills to reduce emotional distress, and undergoing

nutritional counseling. They also receive daily therapeutic body treatments like

massage, and instruction in yoga and meditation. I utilize principles and

practices that integrate holistic healing practices, usually drawn from the

East, with conventional Western medicine.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHICH ASPECTS ARE EFFECTIVE?

>

> I closely follow the medical literature on psychoneuroimmunology,

psychosomatic medicine, and nutrition and draw upon scientific evidence to guide

my recommendations to patients. As I believe is true for any clinician in the

field, it's sometimes difficult to know which aspects of a therapeutic regime

are responsible for improvements. In this regard, I listen to my patients, who

often point to their lifestyle changes as an important and at times major factor

contributing to their enhanced quality of life.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> COULD YOU CITE AN EXAMPLE FROM YOUR WORK IN HOW YOU MIGHT OFFER A DIFFERENT

APPROACH TO TREATING OR PREVENTING MIGRAINES?

>

> My sense of best medical practices is for a doctor to use the tools that are

the most effective and that have the least likelihood of side effects. If a

pharmaceutical agent is best able to meet the needs of a patient, I prescribe

it. If a behavioral approach offers the best benefit/risk profile, I recommend

it.

>

> For example, the current medical model of migraine headaches focuses on

spreading thalamic-cortical depression and its accompanying neurochemical and

neurovascular changes. We have numerous pharmacological options to influence one

or more component of the pain-invoking cascade.

>

> In addition to the appropriately (sparing) use of medication, I find that

patients with migraines benefit from behavioral approaches that appear to raise

their threshold for the triggering of a migraine attack. These include learning

stress management skills and mindfulness meditation techniques; eating a

balanced diet, rich in antioxidants, with a reduced intake of refined

carbohydrates, caffeine, and alcohol; incorporating a regular exercise program

that includes yoga, cardiovascular exercise, and strength training; developing a

restful sleeping routine; addressing core relationship stresses, and learning

the skills to effectively communicate unmet emotional needs.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> HOW DOES YOUR TREATMENT OF A PERSON WITH MS, FOR EXAMPLE, DIFFER FROM A

TYPICAL NEUROLOGIST?

>

> Assuming the diagnosis is correct, I employ appropriate disease-modifying

agents as any neurologists would. Since many of my patients report that their MS

symptoms worsen when they're facing increased stress, I also focus on helping

them follow a lifestyle that supports greater overall emotional and physical

balance. Given the 1,000+ studies documenting the role of stress on immunity, I

place as much importance on helping people manage their lives as I do on

managing their disease.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN (IN WESTERN TERMS) THE MECHANISM BEHIND HOLISTIC REMEDIES?

>

> Research in the field of psychoneuroimmunology has established the link

between mental and emotional states and immunological function. I also believe

that a person's expectations can influence their response to a diagnosis.

Although most physicians are aware of the placebo effect (and often disparage

it), I find that many doctors are unaware of the nocebo effect - the evidence

that negative expectations have a potentially harmful influence on a patient's

outcome. Teaching patients lifestyle skills to positively manage their health

may lessen the symptoms of their illness.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THE EASTERN INFLUENCES WITH THE WESTERN MODEL OF

MEDICINE? DO THEY EVER CONFLICT, AND IF SO, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT?

>

> There are important but manageable differences between the conventional

medical model and the holistic healing traditions commonly associated with the

East. The biomedical model views human beings as molecular machines, and

therefore illness is usually treated through an effort to modify biochemistry.

GERD, for example, results not from work stress, but from hydrochloric acid

molecules leaking into the esophagus. High blood pressure is caused by excessive

amounts of circulating angiotensin molecules, not anxiety over a pending house

foreclosure. Depression is explainable by a lack of serotonin, not whether a

person's relationships are nurturing.

>

> Conventional medicine focuses on the mechanisms of disease, and through this

approach, we have made unprecedented advances in the relief of suffering and the

extension of life.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> SO HOW WOULD A HOLISTIC APPROACH BE DIFFERENT?

>

> A holistic approach looks at how a person's interpretations and choices may

influence the course of the illness. For a patient suffering from depression, a

biochemical physician would likely prescribe a course of a selective serotonin

reuptake inhibitor and, perhaps, psychotherapy. A holistic approach would seek

to understand the root imbalances contributing to the depression, taking into

consideration and providing guidance into a patient's lifestyle, activities,

diet, recent stressful events, beliefs, relationships, and patterns of response.

The goal is to show a person that they have choices of how to interpret their

life challenges. A treatment plan would take these behaviors and prescribed

medication into account in an effort to explore what it would take to activate

that person's brain to begin producing mood-elevating neurochemicals.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> HOW DO YOU FOLLOW EVIDENCE-BASED MEDICINE GIVEN THAT SOME OF THE COMPLEMENTARY

THERAPIES DON'T HAVE THE SOLID EVIDENCE BASE/CLASSES OF EVIDENCE USED BY THE AAN

AND OTHER MEDICAL SOCIETIES?

>

> The scientific literature contains abundant clues about the role of the mind

and emotions on health and illness. For example, a recent study of interest in

Psychosomatic Medicine in 2009 looked at patients admitted with autoimmune

diseases (including 17 with MS, 10 with myasthenia gravis, and two with

dermatomyositis) The researchers found a statistically significant correlation

between cumulative childhood stress and autoimmune disease decades later.

>

> It has been my experience that many people with chronic illness carry a

plethora of self-defeating beliefs born of early emotional trauma. If a

physician can provide the safety for them to discuss their early family

experiences and their current emotional challenges, a connection between buried

emotional pain and many physical symptoms will be revealed. Listening

compassionately to patients and encouraging them to make healthier choices is

the first step in harnessing the power of emotions for healing.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> WHAT CAN NEUROLOGISTS TAKE AWAY FROM READING YOUR NEW BOOK, FREE TO LOVE, FREE

TO HEAL?

>

> In my experience, many patients struggling with chronic neurological illness

carry an underlying story about the meaning of their disease - a story about how

their life circumstances may have contributed to the illness and how they

believe their choices might influence its course. I find that people suffering

with a wide range of conditions, including chronic headache, chronic pain, and

autoimmune diseases, often have an internal narrative that they rarely reveal to

their doctors. A physician's willingness to take the time to explore the hidden

story can lead to insights that improve the patient/doctor relationship, enhance

a patient's quality of life, and in some cases, contribute to genuine healing.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO NEUROLOGISTS ARE WHO ARE HESITANT TO INCORPORATE

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE OR COMPLEMENTARY THERAPIES?

>

> I'm sure that like me, many neurologists encounter patients who don't respond

to conventional treatments despite the physician's best efforts. When a

neurologist is working with a patient who hasn't responded to standard medical

approaches and they suspect there is an emotional or psychosomatic component to

their problem, I suggest something as simple as teaching a mindfulness

meditation technique.

>

> Although I commonly hear doctors say that patients aren't open to

complementary therapies, I have found that if a doctor says, I'd like you to try

this because I think it might be helpful, most patients will try anything that

might possibly relieve their distress. I'm well aware that the plural of

anecdote isn't data, but this is a way for a neurologist to put his or her toe

into the water.

> Back to Top | Article Outline

> REFERENCE

> • Dube SR, Fairweather D, et al. Cumulative childhood stress and autoimmune

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[Guest guest]

Hello Sow,

 

Thank you so much for your info. and I am still debating weather or not to give

to both of my kids the Nutriveda.  My older one is 8 years old, a normal

little over weight, super smart, and happy girl and other is my baby who has

speech problem and currently gets services for 30min. twice a week from both

speech therapy and special instructor.  I am planing take my little one to see

a Pediatric Neurologist after the Holidays.  I wanted to buy the product so I

can show it to him/her when we have the appointment.  I will also print out the

product ingredients from the Nutriveda web site and do some of research on my

own before I decided to give it to my kids.  I see that your trying the

Nutriveda now and please keep me posted for your experience with the product.

 

Thank you so much for your help and Happy Holidays to you and your family!

 

From: sow <sowk721@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:33 PM

Hello ,

I am sure Robin will not mind me answering about the ingredients in Nutriveda.

As far as the Ayurvedic ingredients in the Nutriveda goes they are harmless and

most of them are used by me and lots of other Indian homes for centuries in

cooking. On 's request I had explained all the ayurvedic ingredients - you

will find it in the archives.

http://health. groups.. com/group/ childrensapraxia net/message/ 94054

[Guest guest]

Hi Sowmya,

Thank you so much for your help. Mel is keeping me so busy these

days. I am getting ready to blog day 12.

Robin

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, you should show the product to your kids doctor.

Yes, you should read and research more about it.

For me all those ingredients are like knowing about burritos and pizza right

from childhood. so i got convinced immediately.

Those who are not used to or even familiar with the names is like hearing

somebody talking in foreign language.

So I do encourage you to do research, ask you doctor, bio-med doc,

nutritionist...anyone who knows your kid and has been medically involved with

your kid.

As mentioned in one of 's email this product was not meant for treating

apraxia or autism.

It so happened that the ingredients in it has somehow helped Tanner and Robin.

And as I mentioned in the post about the ayurvedic ingredients they are

antifungal,antiseptic,antioxidants....

Hence my take on this [i am not an expert] it is helping to digest the food more

properly and flushing out the unwanted stuff. Providing more enegy to the

cells...which most of our kids lack.

Have a wonderful Holidays and may the New Year bring good news to all our kids,

sow

>

>

> From: sow <sowk721@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

>

> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:33 PM

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> I am sure Robin will not mind me answering about the ingredients in Nutriveda.

> As far as the Ayurvedic ingredients in the Nutriveda goes they are harmless

and most of them are used by me and lots of other Indian homes for centuries in

cooking. On 's request I had explained all the ayurvedic ingredients - you

will find it in the archives.

> http://health. groups.. com/group/ childrensapraxia net/message/ 94054

>

[Guest guest]

Sow do you have a doctor you spoke to about this before you started or maybe you

don't because the ingredients are all well known to you? Please do continue to

share your views and experience for you as well as your child and thank you.

Kate

> >

> >

> > From: sow <sowk721@>

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:33 PM

> >

> >

> > Hello ,

> >

> > I am sure Robin will not mind me answering about the ingredients in

Nutriveda.

> > As far as the Ayurvedic ingredients in the Nutriveda goes they are harmless

and most of them are used by me and lots of other Indian homes for centuries in

cooking. On 's request I had explained all the ayurvedic ingredients - you

will find it in the archives.

> > http://health. groups.. com/group/ childrensapraxia net/message/ 94054

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sow,

 

Thanks for the tips and I will definitely share my experience with everyone if I

decide to try Ayurveda in the future.

 

From: sow <sowk721@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 5:49 PM

 

,

Yes, you should show the product to your kids doctor.

Yes, you should read and research more about it.

For me all those ingredients are like knowing about burritos and pizza right

from childhood. so i got convinced immediately.

Those who are not used to or even familiar with the names is like hearing

somebody talking in foreign language.

So I do encourage you to do research, ask you doctor, bio-med doc, nutritionist.

...anyone who knows your kid and has been medically involved with your kid.

As mentioned in one of 's email this product was not meant for treating

apraxia or autism.

It so happened that the ingredients in it has somehow helped Tanner and Robin.

And as I mentioned in the post about the ayurvedic ingredients they are

antifungal,antisept ic,antioxidants. ...

Hence my take on this [i am not an expert] it is helping to digest the food more

properly and flushing out the unwanted stuff. Providing more enegy to the

cells...which most of our kids lack.

Have a wonderful Holidays and may the New Year bring good news to all our kids,

sow

>

>

> From: sow <sowk721@... >

> Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

> @groups. com

> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:33 PM

>

>

> Hello ,

>

> I am sure Robin will not mind me answering about the ingredients in Nutriveda.

> As far as the Ayurvedic ingredients in the Nutriveda goes they are harmless

and most of them are used by me and lots of other Indian homes for centuries in

cooking. On 's request I had explained all the ayurvedic ingredients - you

will find it in the archives.

> http://health. groups.. com/group/ childrensapraxia net/message/ 94054

>