Increased hyperactivity with Nutriveda

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Hi,

I started Nutriveda with my son, (10 yrs with Autism) around 3-4 weeks

back. After giving small doses in the first few days, I increased the dosage to

4 scoops. But became very hyperactive - crying, screaming, running from

room to room etc. and my 1 year old baby started crying with fear seeing

like this. In the school, he bit 4 people a day(luckily no children was

involved); and one was bitten on his chest. He even started wetting himself, he

had good potty control before.

He was not hyperactive before except occasional outbursts, which happens

maybe once in 2-3 months. So, I was at a loss and felt very bad at this. I have

read here that some kids tend to be hyperactive initially, but his behaviour

went on for almost 2 weeks. Sadly, I had to stop NV. Has anyone had similar

experiences? What have you done for it?

Now that I stopped NV, his behaviour has subsided. But I am seeing some

positive signs now like he is more caring towards his baby brother, he is more

vocal now etc. Not every effect is obvious, but I can definitely see he has

gained something from the NV. And because of it, I want to start using NV again,

so if any of you can advise/reassure me on similar experiences, that'd be great.

I have few more questions:

1. I quickly went to 4 scoops, could that be the reason for the hyperactivity?

2. When we see the hyperactivity, should we stop giving NV or reduce it? What

should I do if I see this again when I restart NV?

3. If I have to stop NV for whatsoever reason in the future, will have any

" withdrawal symptoms " ? Or has this to be given for life?

4. My father says some weight management products put more ingredients into it

than they say on the tin. He was very worried seeing one day. I am not

saying NV has something which made worse, but does anybody know whether the

manufacturers can do that?

5. The last question is to , since she knows the NV people - because I was

giving 4 scoops to , and he doesn't take it hidden in any food, I have to

give it as powder itself but mixed with equal amount of chocolate horlicks

powder, making it total 8 scoops a day (2 in morning and 6 in evening). And it

takes me an hour in the morning and 2 hours in the evening because he takes it

slowly. Is there any plan for them to make it as some capsule so I can ask him

to swallow the capsule with a glass of water - saving me and him a lot of

trouble and time.

Thanks everyone for reading my long mail,

bibi

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I personally had a very heavy detox reaction to NV when I took it. I was in so

much pain, disoriented, couldn't focus. It took a few trials and error to

figure out how to make this work for me. So here is what I had to do.

1. drink 60%-75% of my body weight in water...this is not counting coffee, tea,

or juices or fluids hidden in food.

2. put a piece of pink Himalayan sea salt in my first 27 oz of water (I drink

from a 27 oz Klean Kanteen)(this helps with electrolyte balance)

3. start VERY low and VERY slowly inch up the dosage. I started with 1/8 a

scoop. After 2 weeks I upped it to 1/4 a scoop (1 1/2 tsp) After 3 weeks I upped

it again to 1/2 a scoop. then 2 weeks later 1 scoop and so on. One scoop is 2

Tbsp, so 6 tsp. The most I can take is 2 scoops. If I get more, I can't keep

hydrated enough.

I could tell that it was time to up the amount I took b/c I could no longer feel

the NV in my system and I would start to have weird cravings for food and keep

eating beyond being full. Now since I got up to 2 scoops, I have stopped for a

week or so and started back up and have not had to inch up the same. I would

start with 1 scoop and be up to 2 scoops within 2 weeks.

I do need to lose weight and I did lose 15 lbs (still have more than 30 to go)

and then got stuck. But I did notice that my body slimmed more than the poundage

warranted--it's as if I was swollen and that has disappeared.

as far as hiding it in food. If you give him 1/8 or 1/4 a scoop you can put it

in a syringe and take it like medicine. use 1/2 the amount of water as powder

and it makes a pudding like consistency, or just spoon it in his mouth. or you

can put in in syrup on top of pancakes, mix it in spaghetti sauce. The goal is

not to use so much that it changes the taste or texture.

There also is a recipe for peanut butter no bake cookies that is pretty good.

Liralen

>

> Hi,

> I started Nutriveda with my son, (10 yrs with Autism) around 3-4 weeks

back. After giving small doses in the first few days, I increased the dosage to

4 scoops. But became very hyperactive - crying, screaming, running from

room to room etc. and my 1 year old baby started crying with fear seeing

like this. In the school, he bit 4 people a day(luckily no children was

involved); and one was bitten on his chest. He even started wetting himself, he

had good potty control before.

>

> He was not hyperactive before except occasional outbursts, which happens

maybe once in 2-3 months. So, I was at a loss and felt very bad at this. I have

read here that some kids tend to be hyperactive initially, but his behaviour

went on for almost 2 weeks. Sadly, I had to stop NV. Has anyone had similar

experiences? What have you done for it?

> Now that I stopped NV, his behaviour has subsided. But I am seeing some

positive signs now like he is more caring towards his baby brother, he is more

vocal now etc. Not every effect is obvious, but I can definitely see he has

gained something from the NV. And because of it, I want to start using NV again,

so if any of you can advise/reassure me on similar experiences, that'd be great.

I have few more questions:

> 1. I quickly went to 4 scoops, could that be the reason for the hyperactivity?

> 2. When we see the hyperactivity, should we stop giving NV or reduce it? What

should I do if I see this again when I restart NV?

> 3. If I have to stop NV for whatsoever reason in the future, will have

any " withdrawal symptoms " ? Or has this to be given for life?

> 4. My father says some weight management products put more ingredients into it

than they say on the tin. He was very worried seeing one day. I am not

saying NV has something which made worse, but does anybody know whether the

manufacturers can do that?

>

> 5. The last question is to , since she knows the NV people - because I was

giving 4 scoops to , and he doesn't take it hidden in any food, I have to

give it as powder itself but mixed with equal amount of chocolate horlicks

powder, making it total 8 scoops a day (2 in morning and 6 in evening). And it

takes me an hour in the morning and 2 hours in the evening because he takes it

slowly. Is there any plan for them to make it as some capsule so I can ask him

to swallow the capsule with a glass of water - saving me and him a lot of

trouble and time.

>

> Thanks everyone for reading my long mail,

> bibi

>

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Hi Bibi,

You save it for the end but you are using 4 scoops a day of Horlicks?!!

That's TONS of sugar!!! There are over 20 grams per serving of sugar in Horlicks

http://www.horlicks.co.uk/products/PDFs/Horlicks-Original.pdf and lots of other

stuff in here too I'd have to look at when I had the time- but also you need to

know are you giving way too much of something with all this Whey (pardon the

pun). Compare to NV ingredients- have that just below where there are only 2

grams of sugar per scoop! I always joke about how people are so skeptical about

NV but don't even give a second glance to anything you can find at a store like

Carnation Instant Breakfast (and Horlicks is your UK version of Carnation or

Ovaltine I guess)

All we can do is document what you have seen and look at the ingredients in each

Chocolate

http://pursuitofresearch.org/Choco_NutritionFacts.pdf

Vanilla

http://pursuitofresearch.org/Vanilla_NutritionFacts.pdf

from this page http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html

And again just for fun -Horlicks

http://www.horlicks.co.uk/products/PDFs/Horlicks-Original.pdf

My quick suggestion is to STOP mixing NV with Horlicks and find something else

-even pudding to mix it with

http://pursuitofresearch.org/serving_suggestions.html (I added the recipes up

there and they are probably lower in sugar than the Horlicks!)

But back to the company adding things they don't say are there in this case:

You must not be from the land of stupid lawsuits (USA) where an obese person can

sue a fast food restaurant for making them fat, a parent can sue a store for

breaking her ankle on her own out of control toddler, or a thief can sue a

homeowner for having a garage they can't get out of - annoying people and

lawyers that would be hysterical to laugh at if made up

http://trouble.iotashan.com/jokes/stupid-lawsuits.cfm

Any company in the US has to list super obvious warning labels on their products

just to prevent stupid lawsuits like " don't use while sleeping " for a blow

dryer http://www.rinkworks.com/said/warnings.shtml

The company that makes NV is run by a solid billionaire since the 80s (that's

with a B not an M) A highly regarded and respected businessman, adviser to US

Presidents, and one who bought and took multiple companies from multimillion to

multibillion such as Fruit of the Loom, Christian Dior etc. -The CEO and

founder of the company Mr Farley http://www.meetbillfarley.com (who is

awesome!!!)

In addition to that NV is formulated and ENDORSED (check the label the

endorsement is on every single label) by probably the WORLD'S most famous and

respected medical doctor Dr. Deepak Chopra, as well as his Chopra Center for

Wellbeing and all the other doctors behind it

http://pursuitofresearch.org/advisors.html And I know working with doctors there

is something that is far more precious to the great ones than money and that is

reputation.

I don't have all the details about the manufacturing plant off the top of my

head but know it's also top of the line as one could imagine. No expense was

spared to make sure NV contains the cleanest, purest and best quality whole food

ingredients ever. It is probably the best product of it's kind -and yes they

launched it as weight management but clearly they could have launched it as a

whole food nutrition enriched GFCF protein powder for body builders. There are

no drugs or caffeine or synthetics in it. It just works with the body to

provide nutrition and balance.

What I find interesting is that either one or a combination of of the whole

foods made your child hyper but then you saw the positive signs in behavior and

verbal just after stopping which may mean it was as your mom hunch is feeling

-too much for him too soon? Many of us do just go to the full dosage right away

-but there are always exceptions.

I have a few questions for you (outside of Horlicks if we just look at NV)

When you were on the little bit every day did you notice anything -even

something subtle?

Was your son regular while on NV? During that 2 weeks how often?

I'm sure he was well hydrated as I stress that often enough -but just checking

about that too. (remember body weight divided in half is about the amount of

ounces)

I would share this with your child's doctor if you didn't already

http://pursuitofresearch.org/NutriiVeda_Information.pdf and also I've updated

the theory page http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html and share the

information with a professional you respect to get their input too. See I find

all of this fascinating because the majority would think (like the fish oils)

they aren't going to change anything -just like fish oils any changes in just

about any area -even in ways that we view as " bad " are probably good. Again in

your case you probably did just give too much too soon for whatever reason

-haven't heard that before. But we do know that NV helps with the natural

production of the neurotransmitters -so clearly

My opinion is probably the obvious -if you didn't notice anything good or bad on

a tiny bit -had the way to hyper results on the 4 scoops -I'd start with a half

dosage and just gradually work up.

As far as hearing it from others- yes the hyper aspect is not uncommon -but

aggressive behavior such as biting or hurting others out of the blue is not

common or acceptable -especially with your little baby in the house!

Just for the record we do have many children that don't go through a hyper stage

-and in cases where they do it's typically more the terrible twos type attitude

and behavior -saying no more, wanting to do things themselves, and yes more

active. In some of the cases the child was too compliant and " good " before -so

this stage which yes typically only lasts about a week is then a good thing.

But Bibi not from what you are describing!! Again 8 scoops a day is WAY to

much...and now that I'm reading this again I highly suspect that there was too

much whey -too much sugar and not enough hydration. Please try again next time

sans the Horlicks!!!

Please let me know how it goes!!

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