Re: food sensitivities and apraxia -- question about fish oil

[Guest guest]

I don't have alot of experience in food sensitivities, but I would think if he's

been off of all that for so many months without any changes, maybe it's not the

food. Could you add some things back in and see if he regresses? Sometimes it's

not the food that causes delays.

I think you are very brave to limit all that. I've tried and my husband makes

such a fuss with just the limit of grain.

Liralen

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> I posted the questions about how long it would take to see the results... and

got a few different answers. Thank you.

> I am still receiving so much conflicting information, which is understandable

because everyone's child is different and their apraxia may " show " differently

too.

> My son has never had atypical behavioral issues -- he is easy to transition

and shows willingness to learn from his therapists most of the time. He has had

loose fecal matter from " day one " and we have been testing for malabsorption,

etc. No answers. Negative celiac... we've taken out every grain (except corn

and rice) with NO results. We are giving iron supplementation for the low

ferritan levels and he is getting 1/2 tablespoons daily of fish oil. At the

moment he is also getting 1 tsp of elderberry to stave off any flu possibility.

> Since he has been taking fish oil for a LONG time now (over a year), wondering

if anyone else has had the result of loose stools caused by fish oil intake.

> We took out: all grains (minus rice and corn), eggs, milk (but not all dairy

so he is eating yogurt and a little bit of cheese and that is only because he

has so many things removed from his diet that we couldn't take out these without

some nutritional support from a dietician... unfortunately the only dietician

who has experience with this kind of stuff is on maternity leave... so we WAIT)

> So, we have been trying this diet since late July and have seen no observable

results... no increase in speech and no resolution of the eczema.

> VERY FRUSTRATED... hate cooking now.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry !!

I can relate - we are gluten & diary free, and our son has oral sensory issues,

so he eats next to nothing - & trying to do this diet with him is challenging!

I really, really suspect with the ezcema that you need to fully eliminate dairy.

That's what cleared up my son's ezcema completely. Some other friends I have

also had to eliminate casein in order for the children's ezcema to go away.

Casein is the main protein found in milk and is also used in many food products

as a binding agent. Casein is even present in lactose-free foods and products as

varied as soy cheese and nail polish!

If he likes yogurt, try some coconut milk yogurt.

[Guest guest]

In my experience, my son's eczema was caused by sodium lauryl sulfate

in beauty products.

[Guest guest]

I have problems with this, always have my whole life. The worst is dandruff

from shampoo.

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> In my experience, my son's eczema was caused by sodium lauryl sulfate

> in beauty products.

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[Guest guest]

You might want to think about taking out the corn also. A lot of kiddos are very

sensitive to that also, also the way it is handled promotes mold growth( in the

storage areas with the corn) Also try to go cold turkey on the dairy and

supplement with calcium and vit D3.

If he really loves yogurt, Turtle Mountain makes an awesome coconut yogurt that

is CF.

Good Luck,

le

>

> I posted the questions about how long it would take to see the results... and

got a few different answers. Thank you.

> I am still receiving so much conflicting information, which is understandable

because everyone's child is different and their apraxia may " show " differently

too.

> My son has never had atypical behavioral issues -- he is easy to transition

and shows willingness to learn from his therapists most of the time. He has had

loose fecal matter from " day one " and we have been testing for malabsorption,

etc. No answers. Negative celiac... we've taken out every grain (except corn

and rice) with NO results. We are giving iron supplementation for the low

ferritan levels and he is getting 1/2 tablespoons daily of fish oil. At the

moment he is also getting 1 tsp of elderberry to stave off any flu possibility.

> Since he has been taking fish oil for a LONG time now (over a year), wondering

if anyone else has had the result of loose stools caused by fish oil intake.

> We took out: all grains (minus rice and corn), eggs, milk (but not all dairy

so he is eating yogurt and a little bit of cheese and that is only because he

has so many things removed from his diet that we couldn't take out these without

some nutritional support from a dietician... unfortunately the only dietician

who has experience with this kind of stuff is on maternity leave... so we WAIT)

> So, we have been trying this diet since late July and have seen no observable

results... no increase in speech and no resolution of the eczema.

> VERY FRUSTRATED... hate cooking now.

>

[Guest guest]

Fish Oil should NOT cause loose stool in normal children, certainly not on an

ongoing basis.� Nothing really should unless something is not tolerated by the

body, but it is rarely fish oil--almost unheard of. All those with ongoing loose

stools develop--- leaky gut--not typically acknowledged by mainstream doctors,

not even gastroenterologists who do not look at the effects of a leaky gut on

the immune system, the neurological and endocrine systems, they typically just

focus on the digestive system alone as if these organs existed in a vacuum.�

So the leaky gut does not always have obvious digestive symptoms--we just had

gas and very mild cramping, but those with persistent loose stools and cramping

by definition will develop dysbiosis--a leakyuy gut. The lining needs a long

time to heal and in the meantime each offending substance can make it worse--it

becomes a vicious cycle of irritation and intestinal inflammation as more and

more things begin to

burden that digestive system when it is chronically irritated to begin with and

the offending substances are continuing to be ingested.

Doctors who ignore this or try to say it is normal for some to be this way, are

doing their patients a great disservice and are poor doctors to begin with.

So for a child who has always had loose stools-- certain foods� and /or other

offending substances ingested --chemicals preservatives, pesticides etc are

always implicated, and malabsorptions are a given, and it is NOT a normal way of

being because he seems to e of normal weight etc.� Read the Gluten Effect by

Drs. Rick and Vicky and it will

explain� a lot of the myths about food intolerances and why they are so

pervasive yet remain undiagnosed with severe consequences for years on end.�

Look at your families--any autoimmune issues?--skin eczemas, asthma, early onset

diabetes, arthritis, Lupus, neurological disorders of unknown etiology?--menaing

not hit in the head --no external trauma--but chemical traumas can be just as

severe and remain undiagnosed, Foods to which the body is intolerant

--particularly gluten� and casein peptides can have a profound effect on the

brain, on all organs but these peptides have a particular affinity for brain

tissue.� it is hard to do it yourself as there can be other intolernaces--most

often secondary, but they affect the body nevertheless when triggered--when the

leaky gut is present and so just by eliminating suspected foods, particularly if

hidden sources are present will not result in any symptoms improving.�

Furthermore, it can take up to

a year for gluten peptides to leave the body and for the cells to begin to

heal, so just a month or two of most often improper gluten free diet may not

show any results.� This doesn't mean everyone is intolerant to gluten or other

foods, but many of those with neurological disorders--if not all--are intolerant

to some fods and the most common are gluten/casein, corn, soy and a few

others.� My daughter had become intolerant to just about everything she was

eating during that period as the leaky gut enabled larger particles of food to

enter the blood stream and her immune system was reacting to them all by now.�

So you need to avoid the main culprits and heal the gut--probiotics, test for

parasites--also very often present in those with food intolerances as is candida

and other opportunistic bacteria infections, viruses.� They all favor a weak

immune system and a leaky gut. We had all of these, and never even had loose

stools.

�Loose stools that do not go aeway are indicative of chronic degenerative

digestive problems. the average gluten intolernat person is diagnosed after

10-13 years of sufering and they do not all develop symptoms early on, nor are

they all Celiacs.� Gluten intolerance is so hard to diagnose becuase many

suferers do NOT have digestive symptoms per se, or not continuously. My husband

is like that and has been since childhood. he's not a Celiac, but he has the

same skin problems as my daughter, gets irritable, had ADD as a child, albeit

not diagnosed as at the time the kids just got kicked out of the classroom a lot

and sent to the principal's office.� Even now as a successful researcher he

still has to self regulate to better pay attention sometimes--he'll shake his

foot, or he has always claimed he thinks better if he has a beer--which of

course he can't have any more now except Red Ridge gluten free, but the point is

he still has some ADD problems and

the alcohol depresses certain parts of his brain so he really can pay attention

better.

Anyway, read, I nform yourselves. if your child improves on fish oil, or even if

he doesn't� but if there is neurological problems and hints of autoimmune

problems in the family chances are some dietary changes are in order and the

main culprits are gluten, casein, corn, soy, eggs, nuts of various kinds etc

etc� You need to do a well planned out elimination diet. Tests are a clue but

not conclusive. They weren't in our case, the elimination diet and

reintroduction of offending foods was and then we realized that given her

nutrient deficiency profile --fatty acid malabsorptions, B12 deficiencies,

CoQ10, foalte, D, E iron deficiencies etc etc... There's a lot to talk about on

this topic and there are apraxia lists that address biomedical interventions for

those who want to learn more.� It's not a quick fix, but then our bodies and

brain function are very complex, we're all different and it is always an

interaction between genetic make-up and

environmental triggers--toxins, viruses, bacteria, parasites (I'm talking

microscopic ones and between the 3 of us in 3 years we've had 5 of them--still

battling the last one as they are hard to identify and to treat, but well worth

the trouble--Biohealth Diagnostics has the best test and always do a

comprehensive or you can miss any new ones--again our case when we tested to see

if we got read of the last one.� We learned we did, fortunately, but

unfortunately my daughter and I had picked up yet a new one so always test with

full 4 day test and around the full moon when most have their reproductive cycle

regardless of length.) . So all of these are pretty much always present in us,

the immune system keeps them at bay, and when the immune system is battling

toxins and or other major infections in our bodies that produce oxidative stress

and weaken our various functions and systems.�� The microbiology research is

all there, same with the neuroscience.

Clinical practice unfortunately is decades behind and don't expect that to

change given the way the healthcare system is run and the influence the

pharamceutical industry has on medical curricula--even the Harvard Students and

some of their professors were protesting against this.� Doctors are nowadays

little more than medicine dispensers, and they can't really change that, not

without additional training and ability to spend more than the 10 minutes to

examine their patients.�

Individual protocols designed for patient's specific needs as well as biomedical

interventions in general take different training (which mainstream doctors do

not want to get after all the years they've already spent training for their

profession, more time, more money and no one really wants to change things but

biomedicine is the key to better health for everyone and the future of

medicine--it will just take a very long time for all involved to clean up their

act and figure out how to capitalize on a new treatment method where it is not a

one size fits all and billions of dollars in profit from one " miracle drug'�

�Best of health to everyone!

Elena

[Guest guest]

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate is a very nasty chemical for some people. I used

to get awful mouth ulcers every time I bit the inside of my cheeks until

I switched to a toothpaste without this vile compound. Check out the

info on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_lauryl_sulfate

The comment about it being used for lysing cells during DNA extraction

is particularly interesting. This means that it is being used to break

apart the cell wall. I worry about what this chemical might do in people

with a leaky gut, or a more permeable blood-brain barrier. I have now

stopped using any product that contains sodium lauryl sulphate, but it

can be difficult to avoid, as it is used all over the place. There are

also many product ingredients with names that are very similar to this

one, and I am not enough of a chemist to know if they too would be a

problem.

Most toothpastes and shampoo's (including kid's) have this chemical.

-jimk

Lance wrote:

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> In my experience, my son's eczema was caused by sodium lauryl sulfate

> in beauty products.

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