Re: biomedical - how do I get started

[Guest guest]

I've seen all the posts about fish oils, etc...  I want to do something for my

son.  How do I get started?  He is 3 1/2 years old.  The only thing I started

giving him was an over the counter multi-vitamin (the disney cars gummies). 

 

He has a very poor diet.  He can chew and swallow just fine but he will not try

new foods.  All he wants to eat is junk - chips, cookies, chicken nuggets,

french fries, crackers.  Absolutely, no vegetables.  Some fruits like oranges,

grapes, and applesauce.  He also loves milk.

I know that someone said before that I should try giving him zinc.

 

Do I just not let him eat?  Should I eliminate these foods altogether? 

I've read about the fish oils but my son can't even take medicine without

gagging and throwing up.  As soon as he sees the tylenol, he will throw up.

 

I feel like such a bad mom : (

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You are NOT a bad mom, it is hard to know what to do and doctors do not know

nutrition nor do they take the trouble to teach parents what they do know. They

just follow guidelines to stay safe and lawsuit free and fit everything in that

10-15 minute slot they have for each patient.

If you really are considering exploring if biomedical

interventions--diet/supplements--can help your child you need to find a doctor

to work with you.  Most mainstream pediatricians do not fit this bill--unless

they get additional biomedical/homeopathic training--our pediatrician has this

and they do a lot of independent reading and learning--go to biomed conferences

etc. there's a lot of hope for our metabolically/neurologically and immune

system damaged kids and I commend you for daring to think outside the box and

want to help your child.

For us biomedical interventions have done wonders--thgerapies alone would have

never worked for our apraxic only daughter who was so severly speech disabled

and frustrated that 3 local apraxia experts declared they could not work with

her. Once we eliminated the toxins and this includes junk food, refined carbs,

gluten dairy etc from her diet and supplemented with the vital brain nutrients

she was missing we had a completely different child on our hands. Fish oil is

great provided the kids absorb it and can use it at cellular level. There's a

lot to learn and do, you need well trained and flexible medical professionals to

work with and read and learn as much as you can, join apraxia groups that dela

with biomedical interventions and you will see that optimizing your child's

health and neurological functioning will benefit all areas of his/her life.

Our kids are very vulnerable to many things, genetics are just part of it, but

the environment is all we can work with and it is definitely worth trying.  Good

luck and I am sure you will get other replies to help guide you. Feel free to

me-mail anybody off line for additional info.

All the best,

Elena

[Guest guest]

My son only likes crunchy foods and will not eat veggies or fruit in their

natural state. I've tried to sneak them in by putting purees in cookies (sneaky

chef or deceptively delicious are two good cookbooks for this), giving him

banana chips and freeze dried fruit snacks and he drinks V8 fusion instead of

traditional juice. For the most part he eats grains though, so I try to get him

crackers, cereal and bread that had only a few ingredients.

The fish oil comes in small gel capsules and say they are for five yrs up. I

call them lemon candy and give him one before he gets his gummy vite.

Start with small things. Change the cereal he eats, get him banana or apple

chips. I feel like a bad mom too, especially since I had a great diet before and

my son's picky eating habits are having a bad effect on the diet of our whole

family.

[Guest guest]

, you are not a bad mom. You are here looking for help for your child.

They sometimes don't make it very easy. Sometimes we have to work harder.

You should read a couple of books if you have the time. Healing the New

Childhood Epidemics: Autism, ADHD, Asthma and Allergies The Groundbreaking

Program for the 4-A Disorders by Bock, and children with starving brains

jaquelyn mccandless. You would be amazed by the information.

If you can get your child to take some Nordic Naturals Omega 3 6 9, which is the

same as NN Pro EFA. You can read a ton about that on this site. The NN do make

a difference in speech for many children, but these books can give you a lot of

incite. Look under the links button to the left to see ideas of how parents gave

small children fish oil.

Good Luck.

Jo mom to Annie 13

>

> I've seen all the posts about fish oils, etc...  I want to do something for

my son.  How do I get started?  He is 3 1/2 years old.  The only thing I

started giving him was an over the counter multi-vitamin (the disney cars

gummies). 

>  

> He has a very poor diet.  He can chew and swallow just fine but he will not

try new foods.  All he wants to eat is junk - chips, cookies, chicken nuggets,

french fries, crackers.  Absolutely, no vegetables.  Some fruits like oranges,

grapes, and applesauce.  He also loves milk.

> I know that someone said before that I should try giving him zinc.

>  

> Do I just not let him eat?  Should I eliminate these foods altogether? 

> I've read about the fish oils but my son can't even take medicine without

gagging and throwing up.  As soon as he sees the tylenol, he will throw up.

>  

> I feel like such a bad mom : (

>

[Guest guest]

I had the same question for my son. I know many of the tests to run on him to

better understand what's going on inside, but have no idea what to do with the

info. Our regular pediatrician isn't the right resource.

Is it a pediatric neurologist? A developmental pediatrician? A DAN doc. Or is

it just randomly finding a pediatrician that has this understanding. I assume

there would be someone that has a specialty in all the things discussed here

(fish oils, vitamins, diet, etc).

Any additional direction here?

Sharon

svraciu@...

>

> Hi ,

>

> You are NOT a bad mom, it is hard to know what to do and doctors do not know

nutrition nor do they take the trouble to teach parents what they do know. They

just follow guidelines to stay safe and lawsuit free and fit everything in that

10-15 minute slot they have for each patient.

>

> If you really are considering exploring if biomedical

interventions--diet/supplements--can help your child you need to find a doctor

to work with you.  Most mainstream pediatricians do not fit this bill--unless

they get additional biomedical/homeopathic training--our pediatrician has this

and they do a lot of independent reading and learning--go to biomed conferences

etc. there's a lot of hope for our metabolically/neurologically and immune

system damaged kids and I commend you for daring to think outside the box and

want to help your child.

>

> For us biomedical interventions have done wonders--thgerapies alone would have

never worked for our apraxic only daughter who was so severly speech disabled

and frustrated that 3 local apraxia experts declared they could not work with

her. Once we eliminated the toxins and this includes junk food, refined carbs,

gluten dairy etc from her diet and supplemented with the vital brain nutrients

she was missing we had a completely different child on our hands. Fish oil is

great provided the kids absorb it and can use it at cellular level. There's a

lot to learn and do, you need well trained and flexible medical professionals to

work with and read and learn as much as you can, join apraxia groups that dela

with biomedical interventions and you will see that optimizing your child's

health and neurological functioning will benefit all areas of his/her life.

>

> Our kids are very vulnerable to many things, genetics are just part of it, but

the environment is all we can work with and it is definitely worth trying.  Good

luck and I am sure you will get other replies to help guide you. Feel free to

me-mail anybody off line for additional info.

>

> All the best,

> Elena

>

[Guest guest]

to get a better understanding of biomedical, read healing the new childhood

epidemics by kenneth bock.  a dev ped can diagonose things, but most dont do

much with biomed.  ARI has a list of DAN drs.  where are you located?

From: vraciup <svraciu@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: biomedical - how do I get started

Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 9:51 PM

 

I had the same question for my son. I know many of the tests to run on

him to better understand what's going on inside, but have no idea what to do

with the info. Our regular pediatrician isn't the right resource.

Is it a pediatric neurologist? A developmental pediatrician? A DAN doc. Or is

it just randomly finding a pediatrician that has this understanding. I assume

there would be someone that has a specialty in all the things discussed here

(fish oils, vitamins, diet, etc).

Any additional direction here?

Sharon

svraciuhotmail (DOT) com

>

> Hi ,

>

> You are NOT a bad mom, it is hard to know what to do and doctors do not know

nutrition nor do they take the trouble to teach parents what they do know. They

just follow guidelines to stay safe and lawsuit free and fit everything in that

10-15 minute slot they have for each patient.

>

> If you really are considering exploring if biomedical interventions-

-diet/supplement s--can help your child you need to find a doctor to work with

you.  Most mainstream pediatricians do not fit this bill--unless they get

additional biomedical/homeopat hic training--our pediatrician has this and they

do a lot of independent reading and learning--go to biomed conferences etc.

there's a lot of hope for our metabolically/ neurologically and immune system

damaged kids and I commend you for daring to think outside the box and want to

help your child.

>

> For us biomedical interventions have done wonders--thgerapies alone would have

never worked for our apraxic only daughter who was so severly speech disabled

and frustrated that 3 local apraxia experts declared they could not work with

her. Once we eliminated the toxins and this includes junk food, refined carbs,

gluten dairy etc from her diet and supplemented with the vital brain nutrients

she was missing we had a completely different child on our hands. Fish oil is

great provided the kids absorb it and can use it at cellular level. There's a

lot to learn and do, you need well trained and flexible medical professionals to

work with and read and learn as much as you can, join apraxia groups that dela

with biomedical interventions and you will see that optimizing your child's

health and neurological functioning will benefit all areas of his/her life.

>

> Our kids are very vulnerable to many things, genetics are just part of it, but

the environment is all we can work with and it is definitely worth trying. 

Good luck and I am sure you will get other replies to help guide you. Feel free

to me-mail anybody off line for additional info.

>

> All the best,

> Elena

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon, DAN doctors are NOT just for autistic kids. Yes theoretically they

should be the ones with the additional biomedical info to help make sense of all

this.� However I must warn you that not all DAN doctors understand things the

same way, nor do they all subscribe to the same ideas in terms of what the root

causes are or how to treat them.� And yes, there can be protocols that can

potentially cause more harm then good--improper chelation for example and few

DANs really understand this for some unknown reason,---it boils down to simple

chemistry and the half life of the chealting agent in the body--but you need to

find an open minded DAN who will work with you and you need to read and learn as

much as you can.� Parent support groups are very useful--google biomed apraxia

support groups and see which make more sense to you.� Parents there are

familiar with biomed and you benefit from all their experiences and that of

their DAN doctors.� We are

about to start the Andy Cutler low dose chelation protocol, but the DAn we see

does not normally do this, they think the higher dose is fine and we don't. But

she will support us in our decision because we prefer the slower safer route and

there is no reason for her not to support us--there's no ego involved if we want

to play it safer. Other DANs do not work with parents if thye do not follow

their protocol exactly and we've decided we cannot work with those doctors

regardless of their fame and glory--we are ultimately responsible for our

children and I would welcome their help if we wanted to do something that was

considered more dangerous--but not if we want to play it safe and do something

slower but proven safer in terms of pulling the metals out.� So you want DAN

you can work with and a support group to learn from.

For us there is no question this was the right path and her progress is

spectacular, but you have to educate yourself to be able to make the best

possible decisions with the information you have available from the doctors and

from other parents, articles, and neuroscience, microbiology research etc.�

There's a lot of hope for our kids but not if we wait for mainstream medicine to

run multimilion dollar double blind clincal trials--which can''t even be doen

the same way for individualized treatments --but that's be sides the poont. it

really is up to us, but we have to learn enough to choose the doctors and the

treatments they recommend wisely for our child's situation. Good luck!

Elena

From: vraciup <svraciu@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: biomedical - how do I get started

Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 9:51 PM

Is it a pediatric neurologist?� A developmental pediatrician?� A DAN doc. Or

is it just randomly finding a pediatrician that has this understanding.� I

assume there would be someone that has a specialty in all the things discussed

here (fish oils, vitamins, diet, etc).�