Lupron

[Guest guest]

My daughter will be seeing the Geiers this winter/spring and we're about to have

her

tested to see if their protocol is appropriate for her. I'll report the results

when we have

them...but in the MEANTIME, you can watch the Reverend Sykes discuss her

son

Wesley's progress after receiving Lupron treatments!

http://www.autismmedia.org/media10.html

FAIR Autism Media

http://www.autismmedia.org/

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>

> Dear Listmates,

>

> I just had my two daughter's testosterone levels checked. I am awaiting the

results. Is

anyone on this list using lupron with their daughters and if so what affects are

you seeing?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

> McNally

> mcnally5@e...

> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

>

[Guest guest]

Pardon my ignorance, but why is the tesosterone level high? Is this

something lots of kids on the spectrum might experience?

Patty

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> We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and Dr Megson.

>

>

>

> Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a

daily

> subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

>

>

>

> Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3

times) and

> we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and

calmer since

> the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

>

>

>

> We would like to hear from other families who are trying the

Lupron protcols

> and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

>

>

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>

>

> AJ

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

Click on this link and scroll down the screen to watch the Geiers discuss this

issue. I'm sure others will respond with their experiences.

Orelindel

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

> Pardon my ignorance, but why is the tesosterone level high? Is this

> something lots of kids on the spectrum might experience?

>

> Patty

>

>

> >

> > We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and Dr Megson.

> >

> >

> >

> > Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a

> daily

> > subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

> >

> >

> >

> > Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3

> times) and

> > we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and

> calmer since

> > the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

> >

> >

> >

> > We would like to hear from other families who are trying the

> Lupron protcols

> > and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > AJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Testosterone is thought to be high because the conversion of DHEA to

DHEA-Sulfate is blocked. The reaction requires glutathione which is in short

supply

due to toxicity. By pushing the reaction in the other direction, lowering

testosterone appears to raise glutathione levels which may help in detoxifying.

DHEA is a precursor to the formation of testosterone and other " sex steroids. "

Ken Sokolski

[Guest guest]

The finding of low DHEA-Sulfate, high testosterone for age and gender, and

low FSH appears to be a common finding in autism. The Geiers found it in 15

consecutive patients and I have seen it in the handfull of autistic patients I

have tested. In addition, low glutathione, low methionine, low cysteine, low

cystathionine, and other transulfuration products have been found

consistently. These seem to be the most consistent biological findings in

autism

regardless of age, severity, or gender. My opinion is that these findings

appear to

be highly significant and may form a basis for diagnosing and treating

autistic children and adults.

Sokolski, M.D.

[Guest guest]

Dr Sokolski,

Are you using Lupron?

What is your recommended protocol?

Thanks for your thoughts.

AJ

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Lupron

The finding of low DHEA-Sulfate, high testosterone for age and gender, and

low FSH appears to be a common finding in autism. The Geiers found it in 15

consecutive patients and I have seen it in the handfull of autistic patients

I

have tested. In addition, low glutathione, low methionine, low cysteine, low

cystathionine, and other transulfuration products have been found

consistently. These seem to be the most consistent biological findings in

autism

regardless of age, severity, or gender. My opinion is that these findings

appear to

be highly significant and may form a basis for diagnosing and treating

autistic children and adults.

Sokolski, M.D.

[Guest guest]

AJ,

My son (5yo) has been on the protocal for 7 months now and has significantly

improved. You may wish to join the LupronChelation group.

Good luck!

worryfree <worryfree97@...> wrote:

We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and Dr Megson.

Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a daily

subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3 times) and

we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and calmer since

the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

We would like to hear from other families who are trying the Lupron protcols

and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

AJ

[Guest guest]

Hello Abid;

I was not able to find that newsgroup. Could it have a

different spelling?

Thanks,

Mark

> We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and

Dr Megson.

>

> Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a daily

> subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

>

> Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3

times) and

> we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and calmer since

> the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

>

> We would like to hear from other families who are trying the Lupron

protcols

> and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

>

> AJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

Here is the spelling as I have cut and pasted it from the site:

LupronChelation

Also, I am emailing you some info from the bottom of the group's main

page:

Group Email Addresses Post message: LupronChelation

Subscribe: LupronChelation-subscribe Unsubscribe:

LupronChelation-unsubscribe List owner:

LupronChelation-owner

I think the subscribe email address wil help you. Suggest you send an email

and take it from there. If you still can't get in, let me know as I know the

list owner and can help you.

Good luck.

redrackem <redrackem@...> wrote:

Hello Abid;

I was not able to find that newsgroup. Could it have a

different spelling?

Thanks,

Mark

> We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and

Dr Megson.

>

> Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a daily

> subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

>

> Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3

times) and

> we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and calmer since

> the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

>

> We would like to hear from other families who are trying the Lupron

protcols

> and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

>

> AJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is there any reading about this protocol you can refer me to? Thanks.

Re: [ ] Re: Lupron

Hi Mark,

Here is the spelling as I have cut and pasted it from the site:

LupronChelation

Also, I am emailing you some info from the bottom of the group's main

page:

Group Email Addresses Post message: LupronChelation Subscribe:

LupronChelation-subscribe Unsubscribe:

LupronChelation-unsubscribe List owner:

LupronChelation-owner

I think the subscribe email address wil help you. Suggest you send an email and

take it from there. If you still can't get in, let me know as I know the list

owner and can help you.

Good luck.

redrackem <redrackem@...> wrote:

Hello Abid;

I was not able to find that newsgroup. Could it have a

different spelling?

Thanks,

Mark

> We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and

Dr Megson.

>

> Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a daily

> subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

>

> Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3

times) and

> we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and calmer since

> the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

>

> We would like to hear from other families who are trying the Lupron

protcols

> and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

>

> AJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have reading material but I can do betterat. Below is a pointer to an

interview of the Geiers who invented the protocal. Listen to the Geiers here:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

Good Luck.

casti71@... wrote:

Is there any reading about this protocol you can refer me to? Thanks.

Re: [ ] Re: Lupron

Hi Mark,

Here is the spelling as I have cut and pasted it from the site:

LupronChelation

Also, I am emailing you some info from the bottom of the group's main

page:

Group Email Addresses Post message: LupronChelation Subscribe:

LupronChelation-subscribe Unsubscribe:

LupronChelation-unsubscribe List owner:

LupronChelation-owner

I think the subscribe email address wil help you. Suggest you send an email and

take it from there. If you still can't get in, let me know as I know the list

owner and can help you.

Good luck.

redrackem <redrackem@...> wrote:

Hello Abid;

I was not able to find that newsgroup. Could it have a

different spelling?

Thanks,

Mark

> We have started the Lupron treatment with the Geiers and

Dr Megson.

>

> Dr Geier has a Lupro protocol with IM shots every 2 weeks and a daily

> subcutaneous shot. DR Megson on the other recommends once a month.

>

> Our son's (9 years) testosterone has been very high (we checked 3

times) and

> we gave our first shot last week. He has become quieter and calmer since

> the first shot. So far it appears quite promising.

>

> We would like to hear from other families who are trying the Lupron

protcols

> and would like to know the recommended dosages by other physicians.

>

> AJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son is about the same age as your boy and we have been using Lupron on him

(and chelating) for about 10 months now. We have been making gains like never

before.

The monthly Lupron shots are NOT like MB12 shots. They are big shots and the

boy needs to be held very still when giving.

To learn more about treatment, suggest you listen to the Geiers:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

If you do decide to to go with this treatment, suggest starting and finishing

before the boy hits puberty. There are very few reports of bad reactions to

lupron BEFORE puberty age. Side-effects with lupron seem to happen after a

child hits puberty.

Good luck.

sherry_flamer <slflamer9@...> wrote:

My son's (age 5 years, 10 mos., weighs 71 lbs) testosterone test

results were 39 (ref 0-10) and our DAN is suggesting Lupron

trial. Has anyone used this protocol and willing to share results?

Is Lupron an injection I can give at night like B12?

My son has been on DAN protocol for almost a year, chelating (DMSA

sup.) for 3 mos although we are going to take a break due to low

minerals.

Lupron is extremely expensive so we are considering a trial to see

how it goes and then possibly trying to get a script from his Ped so

it might be covered as we have an HMO. I have also requested a

referral to an pediatric endocrinologist.

However, I'm a little uneasy about Lupron/messing with his

hormones and would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks, Sherry F.

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, That would be so sad especially when you were doing such a wonderful thing for someone.

I have a feeling that many drugs are causing new diseases these days. My brother developed severe MS after receiving vaccinations...my father also. I avoid as much as I can because I think there might be a genetic component at work. Life is not easy.

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> dominie > From: allisonbraddy@...>> A couple months prior to full on fibro symptoms. I took a drug by the > name of Lupron. It's an infertility drug. But I was put on it for a > little while, because I was an egg donor. I've recently done research > and finding that many people who took it are developing fibro. Anyone > else like this? > Warmly, Discover a magical Christmas destination. Visit asksanta.ca today!

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I'm glad that I could bring this to everyone's attention. I definitely agree that medicines and vaccinations these days are messing us up, or at least those who have genetic risk for the disease.

I'm pretty certain now that the Lupron started my fibro. I'm SOOOOOOO mad. I'm only 23. And my life if ruined . This is a great group!, however I now also joined another group by the name of Lupronvictims. I would suggest it to anyone who thinks that Lupron is what caused their fibro.

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[Guest guest]

Wow-I never considered the 4 years of infertility treatments using

Lupron and then Pergonal could be a cause of my fibro. Neither

resulted in pregnancy and I had a hysterectomy a year later because

of endometriosis. My fibro symptoms started up shortly after my

hysterectomy.

>

>

> , That would be so sad especially when you were doing such a

wonderful thing for someone.

>

> I have a feeling that many drugs are causing new diseases these

days. My brother developed severe MS after receiving

vaccinations...my father also. I avoid as much as I can because I

think there might be a genetic component at work. Life is not easy.

> ine

> > dominie > From: allisonbraddy@...>> A couple

months prior to full on fibro symptoms. I took a drug by the > name

of Lupron. It's an infertility drug. But I was put on it for a >

little while, because I was an egg donor. I've recently done research

> and finding that many people who took it are developing fibro.

Anyone > else like this? > Warmly,

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[Guest guest]

I did not take Lupron, but took Clomid. Mmmm....I've often wondered about that.

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Lupron

A couple months prior to full on fibro symptoms. I took a drug by the name of Lupron. It's an infertility drug. But I was put on it for a little while, because I was an egg donor. I've recently done research and finding that many people who took it are developing fibro. Anyone else like this? Warmly,

[Guest guest]

I even forgot about the year I was on clomid. I actually cannot

believe how many meds I have taken since I was a kid. Should of kept

a diary.

>

> I did not take Lupron, but took Clomid. Mmmm....I've often

wondered about that.

>

> -

>

> Lupron

>

>

> A couple months prior to full on fibro symptoms. I took a drug by

the

> name of Lupron. It's an infertility drug. But I was put on it for

a

> little while, because I was an egg donor. I've recently done

research

> and finding that many people who took it are developing fibro.

Anyone

> else like this?

> Warmly,

>

[Guest guest]

I took Clomid for a long time too - now you have me wondering also! in Phx"M. " <mkarenw@...> wrote: I did not take Lupron, but took Clomid. Mmmm....I've often wondered about that. -

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I was on Clomid for 7 years! I also wonder if it will have any affects on my daughter.

- in KY

Re: Lupron

I took Clomid for a long time too - now you have me wondering also!

in Phx"M. " <mkarenwinsightbb> wrote:

I did not take Lupron, but took Clomid Mmmm....I've often wondered about that.

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[Guest guest]

i was given lupron for another condition 3-4 years after developing fibro.. i saw an improvement in pain levels actually and have stayed improved....though i recall not liking the side effects for a couple of weeks afterwards... blessed be lizallisonbraddy <allisonbraddy@...> wrote: A couple months prior to full on fibro symptoms. I took a drug by the name of Lupron. It's an infertility drug. But I was put on it for a little while, because I was an egg donor. I've recently done research

and finding that many people who took it are developing fibro. Anyone else like this? Warmly,

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[Guest guest]

Wow, it is amazing to hear that quite a few people developed Fibro after having Lupron. Please warn all the young women that you know not to use this product, this includes Depot Lupron and Depot Prevara. I was put on them due to Endometriosis and my result has been and will be a lifetime of Fibro. It has been a tough week for me. Doctors not wanting to give pain medicine. I am in so much pain I don't want to move. I am a single mom with an ill mother too. Please just say a prayer for us. Thank you for all the information, this group is great.

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone else used lupron shots or pills while prego with there apraxia child?

Zoey

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