Guest guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I'm curious as well. I have 8 year old twins that have both been diagnosed with epilepsy and severe speech apraxia and they both have these circles as well. God Bless, Jasmine Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Thank you everyone who has replied to my post so far. I am getting some awesome feedback so far. I am finding it  interesting that a percentage of our children have these dark circles to varying degrees and for various reasons also. So far after very extensive allergy testing (the horrifying painful kind) ( 6 sets of square shaped like blocks with little needles each in them ) ( over 50 needles) put in my sons back for skin allergy testing. He has enviromental allergies, severe asthma and several severe medicine allergies. No food allergies so far all those tests came back negative.  So far these dark circles seem to never go away completely. He seems to have them no matter what they just seem to only change in varying shades of color from dark to light depending on the day or if sick they change to really dark and he turns very ghostly colored very pale if very sick.  So far no reason ahs been given for them.  Jeanne and NH   From: Jasmine Neil <jasmineneil01@...> Subject: [ ] Re:Question for the group? Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 12:18 PM  I'm curious as well. I have 8 year old twins that have both been diagnosed with epilepsy and severe speech apraxia and they both have these circles as well. God Bless, Jasmine Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 My Son has Apraxia and Hypotonia and never has had the dark circles under his eyes. His " typical " older sister is another story. Her eyes often look like she has bluish circles under both of them. This all started about 1 or 2 months ago. The allergy answers make sense to me- here is why: We had a very bizarre situation with our daughter 3 weeks ago. Here is the story. Alyssa is 4.5 years old. She was complaining of a right sided headache on an off for 2 days- this was relieved with Tylenol. She then started to complain of her " eye feeling funny " -- the eye looked ok- no redness, nothing in it, etc. She had a slight temp of 100.7 that evening.... I gave her a 1/2 dose of Tylenol- and the temp was normal before she went to bed. When she woke up in the am- her right eye was swollen completely shut. She could not open her eye. I called the Pediatrician and got an early appointment- he diagnosed " Periorbital Cellulitis " -- and put her on Amoxicillin. I was to call back in 4 hours to tell the doc if it was improving. It got worse- so I called back 2 hours later- I was told to take her to our Children's Hospital ER. Alyssa was actually admitted and was inpatient for 3.5 days receiving IV antibiotics and various tests- the scariest for her was the CT Scan-- but it was done in a " kid friendly room " ... she was so distracted by the movie they played for her, and all the cool lights flashing on the ceiling, and paintings on the walls- it was over before she had time to think about being massively scared! Her Periorbital Cellulitis was caused by a sinus infection that got into her eye socket because the bone separating these 2 areas is very thin. The scare with this is that the infection could have gone from the eye socket- to the eye itself-- and then from the eye to the brain- which could cause meningitis. I stayed in the hospital with her during her stay. I learned that she should see an ENT doc in the future for her sinus issues. Ever since this, my daughter has had continued dark circles below both eyes AND Her stuffy nose remains!!!!! ..... I therefore, think that the allergy related thoughts make sense. I have not yet had my daughter tested for allergies..... The stuffiness seems to be only in the late fall and early winter months historically with her. I have the same stuffiness issues- and have never been tested for allergies. One last comment- the staff at Children's Hospital of Pgh. was wonderful! Alyssa came home with so many crafts- the Rockettes even visited her in her room! I was extremely sleep deprived from being disturbed all night by all of the residents, but all and all- our stay there was very nice- and they went out of their way to make a scary situation for a 4 year old a fun one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Hi, My pulmonologist calls it allergy/asthma shiners..She told me the shiners are a dead giveaway for it. I have had them most of my life, and have had seasonal environmental allergies since I was 10. My daughter who has apraxia also has the purple shiners. Other than peanuts, she does not have food allergies. She does however, have seasonal allergies as well and during allergy season, her shiners become more noticeable. My other daughter, does not have apraxia, but she does have the shiners but with a more mild reaction to seasonal allergies. Lori > > Thank you everyone who has replied to my post so far. I am getting some awesome feedback so far. I am finding it  interesting that a percentage of our children have these dark circles to varying degrees and for various reasons also. So far after very extensive allergy testing (the horrifying painful kind) ( 6 sets of square shaped like blocks with little needles each in them ) ( over 50 needles) put in my sons back for skin allergy testing. He has enviromental allergies, severe asthma and several severe medicine allergies. No food allergies so far all those tests came back negative. >  > So far these dark circles seem to never go away completely. He seems to have them no matter what they just seem to only change in varying shades of color from dark to light depending on the day or if sick they change to really dark and he turns very ghostly colored very pale if very sick. >  > So far no reason ahs been given for them. >  > Jeanne and > NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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