Re: Prompt therapy?

[Guest guest]

I keep a chart of Age Level of Consonant Sounds here. It was given to me by an

EI Therapist. " The solid bar corresponding to each sound (its a bar graph)starts

at the median age of customary articulation; it stops at an age level at which

90% of all children are customarily producing the sound. "

What age level has the speech therapist put him at?

The range for f: 2.5-4yrs old. g:2yrs-4yrs r: 3yrs- 6yrs and k: 2yrs-4yrs.

r you dont need to worry about since he's still within normal range for

attaining that sound. The others should be adjusted for the age level of his

speech, which means he should not be expected to have those sounds unless

they've discharged him from speech for reaching his age level-have they?

My 8dd's SLP at school said she used Prompt when my dd was very young, so it can

still be used for your son too.

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> My son, 4 1/2, has recieved traditional speech therapy for the last 2 1/2

years. He has made great strides, but still struggles with /f/, /g/, /r/, and

/k/ sounds. Would Prompt therapy benefit him for fine-tuning and adding new

sounds? Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

PROMPT therapy is wonderful but is not needed for every child. PROMPT gives

the most info to a child about how to make the sounds, esp sounds in

combination (coarticulation) by letting the child feel how the sounds are

made on the mouth. PROMPT is a hands-on technique. Without seeing your

child I would not be able to give more specifics about whether or not he

could benefit. I would recommend that he be evaluated by an SLP who is

trained in level 2 PROMPT AND structured oral motor exercises (Talk Tools).

The way I use PROMPT in my practice is that if a child cannot imitate the

sound(s) with visual/verbal/auditory cues only-basically watching my

production-then I PROMPT the word on his/her mouth. ~90% of the time, I get

a closer approximation. Also, it's important to fade the PROMPTing so that

a child can produce the sound w/o assistance as well as they progress.

I'm not sure where you are located, but if you are near land and want to

schedule an appointment for an evaluation, please email me or call me off

list. J Also, if you let me know in what city, state you are located, I

can see if there is another private practice SLP w/the above training in

your area.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director/ Help Me Speak, LLC

<http://www.helpmespeak.com/> http://www.helpmespeak.com

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of michelle yates

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:02 PM

Subject: [ ] Prompt therapy?

My son, 4 1/2, has recieved traditional speech therapy for the last 2 1/2

years. He has made great strides, but still struggles with /f/, /g/, /r/,

and /k/ sounds. Would Prompt therapy benefit him for fine-tuning and adding

new sounds? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hello Barbara,

I am searching for an SLP with the training you mentioned below, but have not

had much success. I live in Rockford, Illinois. Would you be able to help me

find an SLP in my area (Northern Illinois or Southern Wisconsin?)

Best Regards,

Illinois

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Barbara

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:59 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Prompt therapy?

PROMPT therapy is wonderful but is not needed for every child. PROMPT gives

the most info to a child about how to make the sounds, esp sounds in

combination (coarticulation) by letting the child feel how the sounds are

made on the mouth. PROMPT is a hands-on technique. Without seeing your

child I would not be able to give more specifics about whether or not he

could benefit. I would recommend that he be evaluated by an SLP who is

trained in level 2 PROMPT AND structured oral motor exercises (Talk Tools).

The way I use PROMPT in my practice is that if a child cannot imitate the

sound(s) with visual/verbal/auditory cues only-basically watching my

production-then I PROMPT the word on his/her mouth. ~90% of the time, I get

a closer approximation. Also, it's important to fade the PROMPTing so that

a child can produce the sound w/o assistance as well as they progress.

I'm not sure where you are located, but if you are near land and want to

schedule an appointment for an evaluation, please email me or call me off

list. J Also, if you let me know in what city, state you are located, I

can see if there is another private practice SLP w/the above training in

your area.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director/ Help Me Speak, LLC

<http://www.helpmespeak.com/> http://www.helpmespeak.com

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

follow us on FaceBook:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Marriottsville-MD/Help-Me-Speak-LLC/1046288520

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Subject: [ ] Prompt therapy?

My son, 4 1/2, has recieved traditional speech therapy for the last 2 1/2

years. He has made great strides, but still struggles with /f/, /g/, /r/,

and /k/ sounds. Would Prompt therapy benefit him for fine-tuning and adding

new sounds? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hi -

I live in NY, but have you visited www.promptinstitute.com.  They have a

referral list.  Try and get a certified therapist. Lori

 

Lori Melnitsky, MA CCC-SLP

Executive Director, All Island Speech Therapy

The Center For Stuttering Therapy & Communication Disorders

STUTTERING SPECIALIST

PROMPT CERTIFIED

Founder- Long Island Stuttering Connection Practice Groups

516-776-0184

Plainview, NY 11803

****You can now access my blog directly at:

www.allislandspeech.com 

 

 

" Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission " -Eleonor Roosevelt

 

From: Stahl, <katie.m.stahl@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Prompt therapy?

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Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 10:19 AM

 

Hello Barbara,

I am searching for an SLP with the training you mentioned below, but have not

had much success. I live in Rockford, Illinois. Would you be able to help me

find an SLP in my area (Northern Illinois or Southern Wisconsin?)

Best Regards,

Illinois

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:59 PM

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Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Prompt therapy?

PROMPT therapy is wonderful but is not needed for every child. PROMPT gives

the most info to a child about how to make the sounds, esp sounds in

combination (coarticulation) by letting the child feel how the sounds are

made on the mouth. PROMPT is a hands-on technique. Without seeing your

child I would not be able to give more specifics about whether or not he

could benefit. I would recommend that he be evaluated by an SLP who is

trained in level 2 PROMPT AND structured oral motor exercises (Talk Tools).

The way I use PROMPT in my practice is that if a child cannot imitate the

sound(s) with visual/verbal/ auditory cues only-basically watching my

production-then I PROMPT the word on his/her mouth. ~90% of the time, I get

a closer approximation. Also, it's important to fade the PROMPTing so that

a child can produce the sound w/o assistance as well as they progress.

I'm not sure where you are located, but if you are near land and want to

schedule an appointment for an evaluation, please email me or call me off

list. J Also, if you let me know in what city, state you are located, I

can see if there is another private practice SLP w/the above training in

your area.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director/ Help Me Speak, LLC

<http://www.helpmesp eak.com/> http://www.helpmesp eak.com

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

follow us on FaceBook:

http://www.facebook .com/pages/ Marriottsville- MD/Help-Me- Speak-LLC/

1046288520

32

Call me with any questions about NutriiVeda!

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:02 PM

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Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Prompt therapy?

My son, 4 1/2, has recieved traditional speech therapy for the last 2 1/2

years. He has made great strides, but still struggles with /f/, /g/, /r/,

and /k/ sounds. Would Prompt therapy benefit him for fine-tuning and adding

new sounds? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sorry I couldn't post earlier--very busy day @ work today. I will post to my

private practice grp. As Lori mentioned, u can call PROMPT for a list of a level

2 or 3 (certified) SLP near you.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara A , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director, Help Me Speak, LLC

410-442-9791

[ ] Prompt therapy?

My son, 4 1/2, has recieved traditional speech therapy for the last 2 1/2

years. He has made great strides, but still struggles with /f/, /g/, /r/,

and /k/ sounds. Would Prompt therapy benefit him for fine-tuning and adding

new sounds? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

OK. Thank you for the help.

Best Regards,

________________________________

[Guest guest]

I would like to know if the Prompt therapy is useful for a child who makes NO

sounds. Our son, age 12, forms his lips for a few words such as the " j " for when

he wants juice or " a " for apple. He has ST every day but the same therapists

have worked for 2 years with him. I am looking for additional help.

(ny 12)

[Guest guest]

Yes it would be worth an oral-motor & eating eval. But by an SLP who is trained

in TalkTools & Prompt.

Email me if u have further questions.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara A , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director, Help Me Speak, LLC

410-442-9791

[ ] Re: Prompt therapy?

I would like to know if the Prompt therapy is useful for a child who makes NO

sounds. Our son, age 12, forms his lips for a few words such as the " j " for when

he wants juice or " a " for apple. He has ST every day but the same therapists

have worked for 2 years with him. I am looking for additional help.

(ny 12)

[Guest guest]

I find that prompt has helped my daughter. Sometimes she will puts her own

fingers on her mouth to prompt herself to make the right sound now for a word.

 

Our SLP uses Talk Tools and Prompt.

 

Demi 

[Guest guest]

Probably one of the SLPs can answer in a more formal way -but I want to throw in

my two cents as a parent. Prompt is a form of touch cue -so she is correct. I

personally did not seek a therapist who was only experienced in one motor

planning method of therapy because most of our children are multifaceted- and

quite honestly many of them are dealing with more than just apraxia even though

we call all of it apraxia. For example -there are in many cases weakness issues

and/or sensory issues that are sprinkled in there and you want to have a

therapist that can address these diagnosis with therapy as well. I am a fan of

oral motor therapy as well as motor planning and strengthening therapy. I

sought out those therapists that would look at my child and choose which

approach was right for which goal and use that....not try to use the same

approach across the board to address issues that had nothing to do with motor

planning. Well I may be over 2 cents now -but I also want to suggest you read

The Late Talker book as that's a good newbie book and lots in there on therapy.

If apraxia is suspected/diagnosed -you want to also schedule an appointment with

either a pediatric neurologist or developmental pediatrician to confirm or rule

out any " soft signs "

I just sent a message out to newbie parent Mawgan from the UK here

/message/98776 but also

check our fb page http://www.apraxia.org under discussion for lots of topics for

new parents -here's just one

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13085

I do believe the above covers what I mean by " soft signs " There is so much hope

no matter what the diagnosis -and sounds like you are 'on it' and to me that's

most important!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for responding, ,

Madelyn has a diagnosis from a pediatric neurologist of apraxia (didn't specify

oral or verbal, but I would guess oral by her age and things she can't do),

hypotonia, and global delays. We have been seeing him for a year, and we have

been trying to see a developmental pediatrician, but NONE are covered by our

insurance (Cigna) and they are quite expensive (about $700 per visit). Our SLP

uses a variety of methods to address Maddi's oral motor, motor planning, sound

production, low tone and feeding issues. We are really happy with her, and the

progress that has been made in her speech and feeding. I did read the Late

Talker and gained tons of information. I am encouraging my husband to read it

too.

Thanks,

From: kiddietalk

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:42 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Prompt therapy?

Probably one of the SLPs can answer in a more formal way -but I want to throw in

my two cents as a parent. Prompt is a form of touch cue -so she is correct. I

personally did not seek a therapist who was only experienced in one motor

planning method of therapy because most of our children are multifaceted- and

quite honestly many of them are dealing with more than just apraxia even though

we call all of it apraxia. For example -there are in many cases weakness issues

and/or sensory issues that are sprinkled in there and you want to have a

therapist that can address these diagnosis with therapy as well. I am a fan of

oral motor therapy as well as motor planning and strengthening therapy. I sought

out those therapists that would look at my child and choose which approach was

right for which goal and use that....not try to use the same approach across the

board to address issues that had nothing to do with motor planning. Well I may

be over 2 cents now -but I also want to suggest you read The Late Talker book as

that's a good newbie book and lots in there on therapy. If apraxia is

suspected/diagnosed -you want to also schedule an appointment with either a

pediatric neurologist or developmental pediatrician to confirm or rule out any

" soft signs "

I just sent a message out to newbie parent Mawgan from the UK here

/message/98776 but also

check our fb page http://www.apraxia.org under discussion for lots of topics for

new parents -here's just one

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13085

I do believe the above covers what I mean by " soft signs " There is so much hope

no matter what the diagnosis -and sounds like you are 'on it' and to me that's

most important!

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[Guest guest]

Hi again -well the good thing is you don't have to learn it all at

once -you can ask questions and learn as you go too. About insurance -go for

the appeal -and more than once -fight fight fight- read why here from our

apraxia.org page http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13830

And as far as oral or verbal apraxia...not all with verbal apraxia have oral but

it's a pretty sure bet if oral is there verbal will be too. It's the one

positive note of oral apraxia as you can get appropriate diagnosis to start

appropriate therapy earlier as oral apraxia can be definably diagnosed earlier

than verbal.

Info about oral apraxia

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/oralapraxia.html

http://www.cherabfoundation.org/2006/a-reason-to-know-the-signs-of-oral-apraxia/

For my son Tanner who had overcome in addition to all else - oral apraxia to be

able to smile, blow the candles out on his birthday cake, imitate funny faces,

lick stuff off his lips etc on command -at 13 years old he still had a " blank "

look when not engaged in conversation -such as when he was sitting at his desk

listening to the teacher at school. Some SLPs -even some so called experts

don't get it why oral apraxia is a big deal. Facial expressions ARE a part of

communication and in one case in particular we had to deal with an ignorant

teacher who judged Tanner's ability to understand what she was saying by the

" blank look " on his face. We had even tried due to that to attach electrodes to

Tanner's face which of course I had to do first to show him that it's not

painful (and he was hysterical because it makes your face go all distorted and

twitchy!) I did that with Dr. Renai Jonas here in Florida.

Thank goodness at 13 years old after trying everything and me saying (not

kidding) " Tanner remember to move your face even when you aren't talking to

anyone " that NV has worked it's magic in that area too.

http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html I wish NV was around when Tanner was

little. Again not to underestimate the fish oils/essential fatty acids as well

-but the dramatic sudden surges across the board in so many areas I've seen with

my own eyes in my own children -I never would have believed possible.

And quick update -my brilliant but ADHD older son Dakota who now takes NV every

day and as I've shared has had his ADHD surges as well. He attends a HS that is

also a college -advanced program...for a math test today he scored well beyond

the rest of the class - 101- the highest score was 105 -and the teacher praised

him in front of the class. Tanner's grades so far from what I've seen are all

spot on too. What's most amazing to me...I no longer have homework! They both

do whatever needs to be done themselves and without me or my husband bugging

them. As they say -life is good!

Thank you for your kind words about The Late Talker -that book wasn't just a

book -it was so much of what I learned the very hard way and it makes me happy

to know it helps to make things a bit easier for others. That's the goal -we

all work together to bring all these kids a smile and a voice (and us -the

parents too!!!)

Hope all are planned for a wonderful, safe and fun holiday weekend!

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