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Hi

I am psoriatic 20 years and counting. Finally deciding to go on

methotrexate after much destruction. Is anyone just on methotrexate

alone and having good results - no destruction or pain? What side-

effects are you experiencing? What about fatigue and job

performance ? Has anyone applied for SS disability and been

successful - Mainly as a route for access into job market and

insurance with the possibility of enbrel. Could use as much

information as possible. Thanks. Merry

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  • 10 months later...

Yes I finally found out that persons with Kleinfelters are gouped in

High Risk along with persons who have MS, Diabetes,Epiletsie. What a

crock of shit.

> Hello all:

>

> I have been diagnosed for about two months. I am not on any type

of

> medication or hormone therapy yet.

>

> I am running into problems with my health insurance. They turned

> down the genetics testing, along with most of the hormone testing

and

> blood work.

>

> Any of you have similar experinces?

>

> Sb

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> Yes I finally found out that persons with Kleinfelters are gouped

in

> High Risk along with persons who have MS, Diabetes,Epiletsie. What

a

> crock of shit.

Where I can find the list of high risk diseases?

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Why does " being in a high risk group, " mean that your insurance company

won't pay for hypogonadism related services? I've never heard of that

before. I can see them not wanting to cover you at all, or even

charging you a higher premium, but once you're covered, don't they have

to provide you with the same services they provide everyone else?

Re: Insurance Issues

> Yes I finally found out that persons with Kleinfelters are gouped in

> High Risk along with persons who have MS, Diabetes,Epiletsie. What a

> crock of shit.

> > Hello all:

> >

> > I have been diagnosed for about two months. I am not on any type

> of

> > medication or hormone therapy yet.

> >

> > I am running into problems with my health insurance. They turned

> > down the genetics testing, along with most of the hormone testing

> and

> > blood work.

> >

> > Any of you have similar experinces?

> >

> > Sb

>

>

>

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Hrj,

You might start with your state's Commissioner of Insurance.

High risk is not limited to " diseases " but other, life-threatening

conditions.

When I was living in Illinois...a Friend's lover's blood vessels were almost

clogged completely with cholesterol/plaque and was having frequent cardiac

complications.

At that time, late 1980, the high-risk pool had a cap and you might have to

wait until a position became available.

I have High Risk Blue Cross Blue Shield in Texas because of my HIV/AIDS.

Good luck,

Consider reporting back what you find out

Just my experiences...

OR eon

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I worked for a health insurance company for 2 years until Friday when

I was laid off...Sign of the times.

You can make an appeal to your insurance carrier. If the first

appeal is not accepted you can make a second appeal. If still not

accepted you can appeal to the plan sponsor, (the company you work

for that is providing the insurance.

Is your insurance self funded or insurance company funded? If self

funded you have more leverage to be able to persuade them to cover

you.

Murray

> Hello all:

>

> I have been diagnosed for about two months. I am not on any type

of

> medication or hormone therapy yet.

>

> I am running into problems with my health insurance. They turned

> down the genetics testing, along with most of the hormone testing

and

> blood work.

>

> Any of you have similar experinces?

>

> Sb

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>>>> Has anyone had any success in getting Houston enzymes and/or

> Brainchilds Spectrum Support products covered by their insurance co?

> We have Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO. At the very least, how about

> getting some reimbursement through a Flex plan?

My husband's work started a plan a few years ago for all employees

where you could deduct certain non-prescription health items. Enzymes

and certain other supplements are deductable in this plan if you are

spending a certain minimum $$ amount on them. I don't know if this is

the employer's program only, or the insurance company offers it to all

its client businesses. You might ask your employer if they have a plan

seperate than the actual insurance coverage. We didn't end up using it

because my kids were on the 'recovery' side of our adventure (sure

could have used it earlier though). Maybe check any wellness programs

that many businesses are doing these days.

.

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I've never seen insurance cover vitamins unless they were a presciption item,

like

Mephyton for vitamin K or some prenatals. However, if your doctor writes a

prescription

for them, they should be deductible for income tax purposes.

Peace,

Kathy E.

Kathleen_E@...

>

> We are also Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO and our insurance has never paid

> for any of my dd's therapies. They did not even cover her speech

> therapy way back when because they would not cover anything to do with

> autism. Every plan is different though. As far as flex plan goes, this

> has been our first year using a flex plan and no vitamins or

> supplements are covered. They do cover lots of other medical out of

> pocket but not these items. You may want to call and ask if a doctor

> prescibes it will they cover for a final answer. Also, I was hoping

> they would cover tutoring expenses on the flex plan but of course the

> answer is no because it is not part of a medical treatment. HTH, Jackie

>

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Hi, Debi!

The Houston Nutraceuticals newsletter is going to do a series of

articles on financial assistance for supplements, with the first

article ready in a few weeks (hopefully!). That article will be on

enzyme customer co-ops. We'll tell how this is being done by parents

and how you can start one yourself for a great savings on HNI

products. The following two (or more?) newsletters will cover what

information we can find regarding insurance and other sources of

assistance.

If you try the doctor prescription route, you'll probably have much

better luck approaching it from an " enzymes to support digestion "

angle. My experience has been that insurance companies are not going

to be as accomodating when they see things written up as " autism

treatments " .

You can also check with your state regional centers, some may cover

supplements. A mother in my local parents group who has experience

with this told me that parents should contact their state support

system and specifically ask about " Non-insurance covered

prescriptions " . Then you will need to have your doctor write it up as

a prescription.

I hope to have more details on these topics in the next few weeks and

would love any info anyone else can offer! You can sign up for the

newsletter here: http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/hni/ . Scroll

down to find the sign-up box.

Please email Devin privately if you end up not being able to get

financial assistance from other means.

>

> Has anyone had any success in getting Houston enzymes and/or

> Brainchilds Spectrum Support products covered by their insurance

co?

> We have Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO. At the very least, how about

> getting some reimbursement through a Flex plan?

>

> We have 2 ASD boys and as you can imagine the costs are beginning to

> sufficate us. We are working with a DAN! dr and I think that I

could

> get him to write a prescription for these things but am not positive.

>

> Thanks in advance!

> Debi

>

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> However, if your doctor writes a prescription

> for them, they should be deductible for income tax purposes.

We could get a prescription w/no problem, even specifying they had to

be HNI enzymes. But wouldn't my kids' insurance company require that

the pharmacy fill the prescription with the cheapest available

substitute, and we'd end up getting something like generic Lactaid

being all that the insurance company would " approve " ?

About 10% of our income goes to enzymes, so that would be amazing.

Life with a bad substitute wouldn't be worth anything, though. We've

had accidental enzyme-free days, and based on those experiences, I'd

live under a bridge to keep my kids on them.

Amy

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I used to work for an insurance company that administered FSAs (Flexible

Spending Accounts).

Check with the group that does the FSA. The IRS states that vitamins are

not covered but some plans may allow them if you have a letter of medical

necessity from the dr. So you may want to tell them that you have a letter

and wonder if would covered. It is also up to the employer group if they

elected to have the o.t.c medicines in their plan. Just because the IRS

states o.t.c. medicine is covered- it is up to the group if they want to

allow them. Do you have a SPD (Summary Plan Description) for the flex plan?

There is one and if you participate in one..... you should have been given

one. This is how you know what is covered and excluded.

HTH,

Jackie---

>> However, if your doctor writes a prescription

>> for them, they should be deductible for income tax purposes.

>

> We could get a prescription w/no problem, even specifying they had to

> be HNI enzymes. But wouldn't my kids' insurance company require that

> the pharmacy fill the prescription with the cheapest available

> substitute, and we'd end up getting something like generic Lactaid

> being all that the insurance company would " approve " ?

>

> About 10% of our income goes to enzymes, so that would be amazing.

> Life with a bad substitute wouldn't be worth anything, though. We've

> had accidental enzyme-free days, and based on those experiences, I'd

> live under a bridge to keep my kids on them.

>

> Amy

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> We could get a prescription w/no problem, even specifying they had to

> be HNI enzymes. But wouldn't my kids' insurance company require that

> the pharmacy fill the prescription with the cheapest available

> substitute, and we'd end up getting something like generic Lactaid

> being all that the insurance company would " approve " ?

Depends on if the doctor writes " do not substitute " on the rx. Then

either it won't be covered by your insurance, or it will be covered at

the regular " brand name " prescription percentage which is usually a

higher co-payment.

Dana

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Wow...the stories I am hearing are scarey. I dont have a clue what our

insurance will cover--but my firat appt with the " out of network " LLMD is the

Monday after Thanksgiving...and were told to bring $500 cash since our

deductible is not yet met.

We pay over $500 a month just to have health insurance. Our deductible out of

pocket is going to be $3K per person (family of 5)...then insurance will pay

70/30 until we are out of pocket $8K...ouch.

I am going to apply for disability so I can eventually get medicare, but I know

that I will not be able to get SSI since I have always been a homemaker. I was

pregnant with my 3rd child when I graduated college so I became a stay at home

mom. We homeschooled for 8 years...and just this past spring the LD had gotten

so bad I could not keep up with my own lesson plans and I knew it was time to

call in help.

My husband has been amazing our whole marriage in that I have been able to be

home with the kids. We are not rich my any stretch of the imagination--we just

made a lot of sacrifices to be able to do it...but now it looks like I will be

penalized for being a homemaker and not in the workforce...because I have been

married for 14 years (with 2 months of work experience in that time with a

christmas season cashier job)...and then prior to that I had 2 years of part

time work while I was in college. Beyond that I had work scholarships for

school....so since I was able to work at age 16 I have probably less than 4

years paid work experience...and the rest of my life I have been a full time

wife to Brad and mother to 3 kids. So SSI will probably laugh at my work

history. I always feel bad each year when the social security office sends out

their statements each year about how much you have contributed to your SSI

benefits...and I always tell my husband that " I received the letter from

the government today telling me that I am a useless member of our

society! " ....I know everyone gets those letters but that is how it felt to me to

see $0 contributed over the last 14 years.

I am blown away that the SS office (or whoever classifies one disabled) will not

allow treatment for that disease...

I am learning this disease is a real hot potato in the political arena...why

must everything be so political? Good grief, I just want to feel better. I am

thankful for the suppt of my husband because getting help for this is looking

more bleak by the minute.

Dawn

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In a message dated 11/18/2005 3:36:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

gratefulwife2brad@... writes:

Wow...the stories I am hearing are scarey. I dont have a clue what our

insurance will cover--but my firat appt with the " out of network " LLMD is the

Monday after Thanksgiving...and were told to bring $500 cash since our

deductible is not yet met.

Usually your first appt with the LLMD is the most expensive hon ....because

of all the bloodwork and time he/she will spend with you as a new patient

....after that it should be pretty normal. I pay around $70 if I buy no

supplements and the insurance I tagged on to my medicare....aetna reimburses me

$39 .

So ..once a month that is not TOO bad ...where you get hit is at the pharmacy

on the way home. Even if you are just paying co-pays ..they add up ! Sheesh

!!!! I hope you are feeling well today ! Kat

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Jeannne,

I received the information on apraxia in the mail. Thank you so much!

You've been extremely helpful. I wanted to see if anyone in the group has

Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield of NY. We are trying to get more therapy

visits for the apraxia diagnosis covered, but they aren't really budging.

Just wanted to see if anyone else was in a similar situation, and how they

handled it.

Thank you,

Meredith

Meredith.crain27@...

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We have Cigna but we are not getting any coverage for speech at all for my

son. I am applying for grants as this is our only hope right now.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jeannne buesser

Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:47 PM

ApraxiaNetworkOfBergenCountyegroups;

Subject: [ ] insurance issues

Jeannne,

I received the information on apraxia in the mail. Thank you so much!

You've been extremely helpful. I wanted to see if anyone in the group has

Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield of NY. We are trying to get more therapy

visits for the apraxia diagnosis covered, but they aren't really budging.

Just wanted to see if anyone else was in a similar situation, and how they

handled it.

Thank you,

Meredith

Meredith.crain27@... <mailto:Meredith.crain27%40gmail.com>

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Depending on the reason for the denail from Cigna, or the limit on Empire BCBS,

you may want to look at the 2004 Michigan Insurance Commission's ruling on

apraxia in a BCBS case. It is available for free on the web, just google it.

;

ApraxiaNetworkOfBergenCountyegroups

From: shannonstilwell@...

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:06:35 -0500

Subject: RE: [ ] insurance issues

We have Cigna but we are not getting any coverage for speech at all for my

son. I am applying for grants as this is our only hope right now.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jeannne buesser

Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:47 PM

ApraxiaNetworkOfBergenCountyegroups;

Subject: [ ] insurance issues

Jeannne,

I received the information on apraxia in the mail. Thank you so much!

You've been extremely helpful. I wanted to see if anyone in the group has

Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield of NY. We are trying to get more therapy

visits for the apraxia diagnosis covered, but they aren't really budging.

Just wanted to see if anyone else was in a similar situation, and how they

handled it.

Thank you,

Meredith

Meredith.crain27@... <mailto:Meredith.crain27%40gmail.com>

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