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In a message dated 6/10/02 5:13:06 PM, johannesd@... writes:

<< (Sort-of) Newbie, de-lurking, >>

All great questions. I hear very LITTLE about the effects of relaxation,

meditation, yoga, etc. I've heard several people say that it all comes down

to CALORIES.

I'm probably considered an extreme CRONie, consuming, on average, about 1000

cals/day (female, small boned, 5'5 " .) I came to CR basically by way of

intuition; in the same vein I don't think that it all comes down to CALORIES

(that is both on a physiological and philosophical level) and I certainly

feel that I have a lot more to master, even though I am PHYSICALLY aligned

with CRON. Without wisdom, perspective, serenity, and some grace, it's all

for naught.

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on 6/10/2002 5:06 PM, Johannes, Doug at johannesd@... wrote:

> so hopefully this is the site where I can ask

> without being harshly chastised, even though they may be covered in the

> archives...

Absolutely!

" But I am interested to know if there have been animal tests

for UV exposure, atmospheric pressure (altitude, ie the amount of available

air), mental stimulation, sexual abstinence? I would like to know if they

have been tested and found to be irrelevant or inconclusive, or if they have

just never been tested. "

Calorie Restriction IS the only method known to extend lifespan so far.

" Also, what are people doing that they consider helpful that probably work,

but are untestable - ie yoga, meditation, biofeedback, acupuncture or

accupressure. Is there anything along these lines that may also help me

sleep? "

Most do some form of exercise, ranging from intense workouts and

weightlifting to more moderate excercise. If you find a magic potion for

sleep please let us insomniacs know about it. Also many CRONIES report they

need less sleep.

" Finally, are there any of us out there who live in/close to Ventura CA? I

guess there have to be some Walford followers down in LA. "

there is a quite a contingent on the west coast. Contact Warren (a

wonderful guy) at: warren.taylor@...

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--- In @y..., " Johannes, Doug " <johannesd@n...>

wrote:

I

> was going to order Beyond the 120 Year Diet today (plus probably

get the

> Diet Planner Software, and The Retardation of Aging and Disease by

Dietary

> Restriction), but the web site said that 'Beyond' is sold out.

Hi Doug,

Can probably still get the book through a book store. Check several

as there are many distribution companies serving bookstores.

Best cure I have for insomnia is reading the CR e-mail. I read them

all every night and have no problem passing out when I lay down.

Regarding the platue you are at in your weight loss, just hang in

there baby. Your body is shifting gears into survival mode but the

weight loss will pick up again. You are doing good and wise to slow

things down a bit. Being in smoggy California, you probably have a

lot of toxins stored away in your fatty tissue.

Meditation et alii may be good for hunger control as long as it

helps. I find work a much better medium for hunger management. I

don't get hungry until I stop, but then I'm usually on my way by

then.

Bob

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In a message dated 6/11/02 7:51:33 AM, papilio28570@... writes:

<< Best cure I have for insomnia is reading the CR e-mail. I read them

all every night and have no problem passing out when I lay down.

>>

LOL

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