Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Hi- My Son has been using the word " Ba Ba " also- he started using it around the same age as your son- and he is now 33 months old. In our case, our son just associated " Ba Ba " with pediasure-- which he used to drink with a nipple on it..... (ie- bottle).... I am thinking that your son may be using the word " Ba Ba " for something specific- (such as his bottle)? He may not be relating the word " drink " or " thirsty " with " his Ba Ba " . Our ST suggested that we take pictures of specific things that our son liked..... such as bottle of Pediasure, his bear, his bed, the bath tub, a banana, etc. We would show him the pictures and repeat the words- we then would show him the REAL object of whatever was pictured. We also used the signs " drink, eat, and more " along with these pictures. Within 2 weeks, our son was signing the term " more " - and saying " Ba Ba " after that " ..... A few months later- he was saying " " MOH Ba Ba " when he was thirsty. Your son probably knows that he wants a " Ba Ba " -- he just may not know how to express it. Another thing that you can try is to not give him his " Ba Ba " until he makes an attempt to ask for it. Keep the " Ba Ba " out of reach- encourage him to say the word- and give him the ba ba when he makes an attempt to say it. If he shows any signs of frustration, give it to him-- (you want to encourage him to use the word without frustrating him). Good luck- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 My son, who is 21 months, was recently diagnosed with " some apraxia component " . My question is, do any of you have children that can say a few select words but dont know how to use them??? My son can say " ba-ba " for a drink, but will not ask for " ba-ba " if he is thirsty. I have to say do you want a " ba-ba " ? And them he will respond with " ba-ba " . He also does this with his few signs we have taught him. Just wondering what this is all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 the biggest thing with apraxia is doing things inconsistantly. all you can do is model proper language at this point. There were always things my son would say that was cute and i hated to correct it. Like strawberries...he says sawbeebees. I've been at this a long time, my son is now 10 and i find to model the correct language is now ingrained to the point i don't even think about it anymore. So, if he says ba'ba, you can model back " you want a drink? " even though he can't repeat at this time, keep modeling. i didn't even get a grunt or a point until my son was over 4 years old, but i modeled everything, everytime. and past that, he could repeat a word once, then we'd never see it again for months...typical. so just keep modeling for him, it will come eventually. btw, did they explain what the apraxia components were? just curious as that's an odd way to put it! sandy ________________________________ From: <daug4@...> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 7:49:42 AM Subject: [ ] CONFUSED!!!  My son, who is 21 months, was recently diagnosed with " some apraxia component " . My question is, do any of you have children that can say a few select words but dont know how to use them??? My son can say " ba-ba " for a drink, but will not ask for " ba-ba " if he is thirsty. I have to say do you want a " ba-ba " ? And them he will respond with " ba-ba " . He also does this with his few signs we have taught him. Just wondering what this is all about? __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new . Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail..ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Hi there, You may want to ask who is working with your son (speech therapist, maybe?) about it. My first thought is that it has something to do with processing expressive language, or possibly understanding the connection between communicating a desire with words versus gestures or in another fashion that feels easier to him or more expedient (like when they tend to crawl for awhile after they learn to walk because it's faster at first than walking). As he gets older you may want to keep an eye out for expressive and receptive language issues that may be there - a skilled diagnostician could let you know in the future - around Pre-K if it hasn't resolved itself by then, or Kindergarten/First Grade if more subtle. My 6 year old (almost 7)daughter struggles with language processing issues as part of this spectrum of what she has going on (dyspraxia or apraxia, sensory processing disorder, speech issues due to oral motor/coordination - the dyspraxia essentially). For her it's translated into difficulty learning how to read - most likely has Dyslexia - am going to do some testing to be sure what's going on. Had her tested before she started Kindergarten and the Diagnostician was great at letting us know what to look out for as she grows and how to address it if it did crop up. It's a constant evolution to see what she gains and in what new ways things crop up. Hope that helps! Diane (Mom of 2 - son age 9, daughter 6) > > My son, who is 21 months, was recently diagnosed with " some apraxia component " . My question is, do any of you have children that can say a few select words but dont know how to use them??? My son can say " ba-ba " for a drink, but will not ask for " ba-ba " if he is thirsty. I have to say do you want a " ba-ba " ? And them he will respond with " ba-ba " . He also does this with his few signs we have taught him. Just wondering what this is all about? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Your son may be a bit young to know for sure if it's apraxia -however a sign of apraxia is the inconsistency to say or do something " on command " So in other words...just WHEN he wants to ask you for the bottle is when he will have the most trouble. When a child is apraxic the easiest way for them to talk is when someone " models " the word for them first. So if you say " ba ba " they can say " ba ba " Please don't at this early early early stage in any way believe from anyone -even if it's a professional -that this is a sign of a receptive or cognitive issue- or some sort of processing issue. My son was able to say " ba " if we worked with him at it - at 2 years 11 months and our Early Intervention goal was that he would " look at a ball and say " ba " instead of " mmm " which was just about his only " word " other than " ma " (Tanner only had 3 weeks of EI because even though I pushed and pushed -everyone thought he was " just " a late talker " - it's all in The Late Talker book) In spite of that rough start in speech -Tanner is a great student in 7th grade and if you check the archives has been since kindergarten and today keeps getting better and better. (please read his story at http://www.pursuitofresearch.org under " Zrii + Cherab = Research " to read how I got a call from his school even about his most recent improvements) Even though apraxia in itself is NOT a developmental (or childhood only) disorder -it can create developmental lags in education in certain areas down the road -but again that doesn't mean there are any receptive or processing issues. And out of the mouths of babes...well in Tanner's case not much of a babe anymore at 13 years old 5 foot 8 and 154 pounds (!!) http://www.debtsmart.net/talk/tanner.html and listen to his most recent post where he talks about how people " assume " things about him when he can't say a word fast enough and that annoys him. These kids KNOW what they want to say -they just can't say it. They need help -and most of all they need us -their parents -to believe in them even when they are surrounded by a bunch of turkeys that don't. The greatest gift looking back is proving them all wrong- those who thought Tanner wouldn't " make it in a mainstream kindergarten class " I want to say " How DARE you assume that about a child with a verbal disability just because they can't speak up and say " SCREW YOU!! " (sorry -but that's what I want to say) A bit passionate about this aren't I? Bottom line -don't read into it...apraxia is confusing, frustrating -and it rarely makes sense. The good news is that we know from this group that these kids can make excellent students- they just need a chance. PS -have you started fish oils yet???!!! Here's a fish oils 101 post from our apraxia.org group at fb http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738 & gid=115029735601#/topic.php?u\ id=115029735601 & topic=7401 ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Isnt it true that if he's asking for a bottle and its coming out " baba " that we should still ask him-- do you want a bottle? since he thinks he's saying bottle and the correct word should be given? > > Your son may be a bit young to know for sure if it's apraxia -however a sign of apraxia is the inconsistency to say or do something " on command " So in other words...just WHEN he wants to ask you for the bottle is when he will have the most trouble. When a child is apraxic the easiest way for them to talk is when someone " models " the word for them first. So if you say " ba ba " they can say " ba ba " Please don't at this early early early stage in any way believe from anyone -even if it's a professional -that this is a sign of a receptive or cognitive issue- or some sort of processing issue. My son was able to say " ba " if we worked with him at it - at 2 years 11 months and our Early Intervention goal was that he would " look at a ball and say " ba " instead of " mmm " which was just about his only " word " other than " ma " (Tanner only had 3 weeks of EI because even though I pushed and pushed -everyone thought he was " just " a late talker " - it's all in The Late Talker book) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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