Re: Does anyone here know aI bout ayurveda???

[Guest guest]

Geez folks.  Ease up.  I appreciate your concern, but really...do you think I

would actually give my child something without checking with his pediatrician

and nutricianist first?  I'm not a complete idiot.  It's a shame how hard you

people can be on fellow moms.   I was simply sharing a way to order the

nutriiveda without buying $160 worth.  As for the product itself, I haven't

spoken to 's  " team " (SLP, pediatrician, nutricianist) yet.  I wanted the

product in my hands when I approach them about it.  But I will say, I am

interested in trying it.  My son is 4 and a robust 45 pounds.  He's already in

size 6 clothes and in the 90% for height and the 60% for weight.  I don't think

one milkshake a day (during a trial period) would forever alter his health. 

Everyone should do what they think is right for them.  And I don't think ANYONE

should be totally berated for trying things a little outside the box.  That's

how the whole fish

oil thing got started right???  One mom thinking outside the box. 

 

From: Jeanne <jamie199866@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know about ayurveda???

Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:39 PM

Hi,

 

I have to agree with what this you regarding this products use. I am all for

using all natural ways of helping our children. I am all for any method of

helping our children recover. But I have to agree to use this with caution.

I myself would never try anything without proper medical sound advice. Most of

us on this board also have children who other underlying issues all along with

Apraxia/Dyspraxia etc.

 

I for one would not even considere using this product for my severely dyspraxic

son who is age 11 yo. He weighs only 67 lbs and is still in a booster seat. He

is short also for 11 yo. My son for one can not lose any weight at all. He is

underweight at 67lbs already. His pediatrician is constantly watching his weight

and growth. So to use anything that might cause weight loss would be risking my

sons medical health and quite possible hospitalization. This is very serious for

my son.

 

Just please be careful with using this or any product regarding weight loss due

to it could cause very serious life threatening reactions. Especially when

little kids are involved.

 

Have there been any studies done on children under age 18 ??

What about its use in toddlers??

 

Just my one opinion.

 

Jeanne and

NH

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[Guest guest]

Hi Gretchen-

I apologize if you felt that my original message in any way offended you. It

wasn't my intent. That is the problem with the written word as it has no

inflection in the voice that talking does. I have given similar cautions

when I hear people talking about giving their children high doses of Vitamin E

without asking a Dr. I couldn't feel good in my spirit if I didn't mention

the weight loss aspect when you didn't mention whether you were seeking a dr

consult previously. I pray this helps your son and I am sure we would all be

very happy to hear about whether is it successful. I wasn't in any way

trying to tell you not to try it or not to think about the box. I

personally find people questioning what I do on this board to be helpful because

it makes me think things through and make solid decisions. Someone

questioned me having my sons adenoids/tonsils removed when they talked about the

role of them in the body. I still decided to go through with the surgery but

the informaiton they provided to me was something I hadn't thought about and I

was grateful that I had it to consider prior the surgery and make the best

decision for my family.

I wish you the very best of luck and again, if it was my original message that

made you feel like I was hard on you I sincerely apologize.

Sue

Re: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know aI bout ayurveda???

Geez folks. Ease up. I appreciate your concern, but really...do you think I

would actually give my child something without checking with his pediatrician

and nutricianist first? I'm not a complete idiot. It's a shame how hard you

people can be on fellow moms. I was simply sharing a way to order the

nutriiveda without buying $160 worth. As for the product itself, I haven't

spoken to 's " team " (SLP, pediatrician, nutricianist) yet. I wanted the

product in my hands when I approach them about it. But I will say, I am

interested in trying it. My son is 4 and a robust 45 pounds. He's already in

size 6 clothes and in the 90% for height and the 60% for weight. I don't think

one milkshake a day (during a trial period) would forever alter his health.

Everyone should do what they think is right for them. And I don't think ANYONE

should be totally berated for trying things a little outside the box. That's

how the whole fish

oil thing got started right??? One mom thinking outside the box.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I am sorry I even replied now. I was not intending to offens anyone. I

sure hope you see great improvement in your son. I do not think you or anyone

else is by any means is an idiot. I myself do not want to see any one or their

child having to endure any more pain or heartache for us or our children from an

adverse side effect or life threatening reaction that was all I was trying to

warn people about. Just be cautious. Again I am sorry I offended you. I wish you

and your child the best of luck. I hope this product does wonders for your

child. I think fish oil is great. Although I do not use it for my son. But do

know many people who use it every day and it does wonders for them. As for

vitamin E. I do not use that either for my son. I had a life threatening

reaction to Vitamin E while taking very high doses of Depakoate.  The reaction

was somehow they began to eat my red blood cells which left me with a very low

red blood cell count. He does take

a daily vitamin though.

 

My son is making great progress speech wise.

 

The best of luck to everyone.

 

Jeanne and

NH

From: NotefrmSue@... <NotefrmSue@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Does anyone here know aI bout ayurveda???

Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:26 AM

 

Hi Gretchen-

I apologize if you felt that my original message in any way offended you. It

wasn't my intent. That is the problem with the written word as it has no

inflection in the voice that talking does. I have given similar cautions when I

hear people talking about giving their children high doses of Vitamin E without

asking a Dr. I couldn't feel good in my spirit if I didn't mention the weight

loss aspect when you didn't mention whether you were seeking a dr consult

previously. I pray this helps your son and I am sure we would all be very happy

to hear about whether is it successful. I wasn't in any way trying to tell you

not to try it or not to think about the box. I personally find people

questioning what I do on this board to be helpful because it makes me think

things through and make solid decisions. Someone questioned me having my sons

adenoids/tonsils removed when they talked about the role of them in the body. I

still decided to go through with the

surgery but the informaiton they provided to me was something I hadn't thought

about and I was grateful that I had it to consider prior the surgery and make

the best decision for my family.

I wish you the very best of luck and again, if it was my original message that

made you feel like I was hard on you I sincerely apologize.

Sue

Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Does anyone here know aI bout

ayurveda???

Geez folks. Ease up. I appreciate your concern, but really...do you think I

would actually give my child something without checking with his pediatrician

and nutricianist first? I'm not a complete idiot. It's a shame how hard you

people can be on fellow moms. I was simply sharing a way to order the nutriiveda

without buying $160 worth. As for the product itself, I haven't spoken to

's " team " (SLP, pediatrician, nutricianist) yet. I wanted the product in

my hands when I approach them about it. But I will say, I am interested in

trying it. My son is 4 and a robust 45 pounds. He's already in size 6 clothes

and in the 90% for height and the 60% for weight. I don't think one milkshake a

day (during a trial period) would forever alter his health. Everyone should do

what they think is right for them. And I don't think ANYONE should be totally

berated for trying things a little outside the box. That's how the whole fish

oil thing got started right??? One mom thinking outside the box.

[Guest guest]

I don't think that any one comment Jeanne upset anyone. Nobody really does know

much about ayurveda here...but in India the botanicals used in the nutriiveda

are used commonly in food.

As I said a number of times check it out with your child's doctor or other

professionals. Not that your child's SLP is probably going to have the

slightest clue about ayurveda.

I just say " check with your child's doctor " but knowing most won't know about

the ayurvedic component I not only did that but I have a number of friends who

are natural health professionals including my very good friend ;

co author of The Diet Booster book who is one of the first I showed Nutriiveda

to- who wrote a book on the subject...here she is talking about 'her'

pancreatic protocol and she teaches this and councils medical doctors on natural

approaches to health all over the country

http://www.thewellnessprotocol.com/PancreaticProtocolVideoSeries.html , my

friend Diane (Dr. Diane McCoughey)

http://www.speakermatch.com/keynotespeakers/717853909.htm you can read her bio

at the Speaker page - and she travels all over the world to train others.

Dietitians, nutritionists, medical friends including one of my best friends Dr.

who works as an internal medicine doctor through the Barnabas

system in NJ - her family is from India and even though she's a traditional

Western medical doctor she knows a tiny bit about ayurveda, Tanner's

pediatrician who is very open, and I just spoke to Dr. Marilyn Agin about it

last night who knows a bit about ayurveda too.

....and strangers I reached out to for guidance on this including natropaths, and

ayurveda specialists that I found on the web who called me to speak- including

one doctor who was the one that told me that in ayurveda there is no medicine

that will only treat one aspect of the body as ayurveda is whole body so of

course while this may help the metabolic system it will also help the neurologic

system etc.

And some of the best advice I got was from our resident mom to an apraxic child

Sowmya who is from India and very wise on this subject. She told me that there

is nothing in the Nutriiveda that is harmful as it's all used commonly in

cooking or as food in India.

So let's see what we use here in the US commonly as foods because unless you

analyze every food you and your child eat- then in a way you're being

hypocritical.

And...just in case you haven't analyzed the foods you eat every day...found in

the typical US supermarket and restaurant and home Nationwide...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~things commonly found in foods in the US

Benzoates can trigger the allergies such as skin rashes and asthma as well as

believed to be causing brain damage.

Found commonly in sodas, salad dressings etc. " Certain amounts of benzene can

cause cancer (leukemia) in humans, and can cross the placenta to affect an

unborn baby "

http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/humannutrition/nutritionnews/Benzoates.htm

Bromates destroy the nutrients in the foods. It can give rise to nausea and

diarrhea.

Found commonly in breads " Bromate is also considered a category 2B carcinogen by

the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), meaning that it may be

harmful when consumed. "

http://foodrecalls.blogspot.com/2009/04/fda-should-ban-bromated-flour.html

Butylates are responsible for high blood cholesterol levels as well as impaired

liver and kidney function.

Found commonly in many foods " BHT has been shown to induce tumors in the

stomach and liver in animals when used at high levels. Again, although this was

allowed in foods at a low level per each food, it is one of the most common

preservatives and is present in many processed foods. The amount consumed in the

entire diet may be higher than the " permitted " level per food and remains a

concern by many scientists.

BHT and butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA) are being investigated for their ability

to damage genetic material. In addition, research has shown that these compounds

can rupture and damage red blood cells as well as stimulate symptoms of chemical

sensitivity. "

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george & dbid=107

Saccharin causes toxic reactions and allergic response, affecting skin,

gastrointestinal tract and heart. It may also cause tumors and bladder cancer.

Found commonly in diet or " sugar free " foods " The bottom line is that lifelong

consumption of aspartame probably increases the risk of cancer.

People—especially young children—should not consume foods and beverages

sweetened with aspartame, should switch to products sweetened with SUCRALOSE

(Splenda), or should avoid all artificially sweetened foods. Two other

artificial sweeteners, SACCHARIN and ACESULFAME-K, have also been linked to a

risk of cancer. "

http://www.cspinet.org/reports/chemcuisine.htm

Red Dye 40 is suspected to cause certain birth defects and possibly cancer.

Found commonly in Soda pop, candy, gelatin desserts, pastries, pet food,

sausage.

http://www.keepwell.com/preservatives.htm

Mono and di-glycerides can cause birth defects, genetic changes and cancer.

Caramel is a famous flavoring and coloring agent that can cause vitamin B6

deficiencies. It can cause certain genetic defects and even cancer.

Sodium chloride can lead to high blood pressure, kidney failure, stroke and

heart attack.

Found in...um...salt!!!!!

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And OK so those are preservatives...go look at the warnings against using some

of the herbs many of us use commonly in cooking such as thyme!!! Ayurveda is

just that -it's herbs and fruits etc. consumed commonly in India- I actually in

looking into it am upset I didn't know more about this years ago!!!!

And we all as parents have to have advice we respect and trust. I'm not saying

go full steam ahead without looking at anything -I'm saying that this is a

product that by mistake I found had a life changing positive effect on my son

Tanner -again changes that were pointed out to me by the professionals that

worked with him without me saying anything to them...the fact that like with

fish oils he regresses off the powder and surges on it -to me there's something

there. And -like Tanner- will choose to eat this powder - they seem to

crave it. Do I understand it -no -but I'm not going to be not try something

that all of the people I know and respect and trust tell me the Nutriiveda is

" very impressive " a " very good product " " no reason to not give it to Tanner "

etc.

So I think what is annoying to me anyway is for anyone here to assume that savvy

parents like me (or Gretchen) WON'T check this out- outside this group -outside

the box. And especially when none of us encourage anyone to just go and use

anything without checking it out too. But as I wrote above...I'm sure there are

more than a few things you feed your child every single day -I'm sure there are

a few harmful cleaning products you use around your child every single day -and

you don't think anything of it.

On that note a friend of mine who 'isn't' knowledgeable about health mistakenly

killed her little dachshund dog by using too much bleach when cleaning her

floors. (and I was just at the funeral for her dad who just died suddenly too

-unrelated to her dog's death)

In the world of be careful -I do seem to lean more towards ancient or well known

treatments vs. those that are not tried and true for years. Ayurveda is 5000

years old and just because it's not well known or used YET in the US does not

mean it isn't in some way far superior to some of the medications we use today.

Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon are both behind nutriiveda. Dr. Simon who is a

traditional neurologist is both co founder and medical director of the Chopra

center but on the Zrii scientific advisory board. Here's Dr. Simon speaking

about the mind body aspects of ayurveda

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