flu shot question

November 15, 2006

The one year that I DID get the flu shot was the sickest year of my

life, but my job made it manditory (needless to say, I didn't stick

around there long!). I never caught the flu very badly before the

flu shot, but for about 4 years after, I would get the flu, then

bronchitis, and twice I had pnemonia. NO THANKS! I would just as

soon have a mild flu bug than to be as sick as I was that one year.

Besides, I have heard many scientists say that the current stock of

flu shots in the US may not even be effective on the strand of flu

that is going around this year. And.. I honestly have a distrust of

the FDA, Big Pharma, and most doctors.

with Metta,

~Lori~

>

> How do you feel about getting a flu shot?

>

> Do you think they're safe or do you hesitate to get one because

> a.) you don't really know for sure what's in there or

> b.) it could cause the flu virus to become resistant or

> c.) it may not even be the strain that comes around or

> d.) there are natural alternatives available in the health food

store.

>

> what do you think? The flu shot is only $15 at my local grocery

> in-store clinic...trying to decide...It's been a loooong time since

> I've gotten one because of some of the above thoughts. As far as

> having Candida, do you think our immune system can handle the flu

shot?

>

> Thanks,

> ita

>

November 15, 2006

How do you feel about getting a flu shot?

Do you think they're safe or do you hesitate to get one because

a.) you don't really know for sure what's in there or

b.) it could cause the flu virus to become resistant or

c.) it may not even be the strain that comes around or

d.) there are natural alternatives available in the health food store.

How about all of the above? Personally, I never get the flu shot. I

believe that all of the preservatives and chemicals that carry the virus

into your system do more harm than a flu shot warrants. If you are in the

population that they routinely recommend getting the flu shot (infants,

elderly, immunosuppressed) in my humble opinion, these are the people that

should NOT get the vaccine. I consider anyone with a candida overgrowth

immunocompromised because their immune system is already battling the

candida. I say, focus on excellent nutrition including supplements, stress

reduction and getting enough sleep. These things will be your best defense.

If you do happen to get sick, there are many alternatives treatments that

can help decrease the severity. I hope that helps. Tammy

November 15, 2006

>

> How do you feel about getting a flu shot?

>

> Do you think they're safe or do you hesitate to get one because

> a.) you don't really know for sure what's in there or

> b.) it could cause the flu virus to become resistant or

> c.) it may not even be the strain that comes around or

> d.) there are natural alternatives available in the health food

store.

>

> what do you think? The flu shot is only $15 at my local grocery

> in-store clinic...trying to decide...It's been a loooong time since

> I've gotten one because of some of the above thoughts. As far as

> having Candida, do you think our immune system can handle the flu

shot?

==> ita, the whole " supposed " science behind vaccines is totally

false and unworkable, but it does make a lot of money for drug

companies. Vaccines contain toxins such as mercury and other

substances that can cause worse illnesses and debilitation in people

whose health is already compromised. The antibody theory is just

that, a theory, which is based on false premises. For example: the

medical community follows these antibody rules:

1. High antibodies equals an allergy.

2. High antibodies equals immunity.

3. However, in the case of HIV high antibodies means you are

infectious!

That doesn't make sense. The rules change when it comes to HIV? Yet

the opposite is true for all other diseases?

Facts about Antibodies

1. People who are the most immune have low antibodies levels – see

Immunity to Disease Theory below.

2. If HIV tests were not diluted to a ratio of 1:400 everyone would

have infectious HIV – see HIV Tests below.

3. Antibody allergy tests are based on the theory that high

circulating levels of IgG antibodies correlate with clinical food

allergy signs and symptoms, however high serum levels of IgG and

other allergy tests has not been studied, nor verified, therefore it

is quite a leap to conclude that IgG to food antigens correlates to

signs and symptoms of food allergy. In addition to the fact that

laboratories do not use pure antigens to test the blood samples from

patients – see Antibody Tests for Allergies below.

4. Allergic reactions are exactly the same list of symptoms as the

list of healing reactions created by the body – see Healing Reactions

are Not Allergic Reactions below - see the rest of this article in

the Germ & Antibody Theories Are False Folder in our files.

" Just because you give somebody a vaccine, and perhaps get an

antibody reaction, doesn't mean a thing. The only true antibodies, of

course, are those you get naturally. What we're doing [when we inject

vaccines] is interfering with a very delicate mechanism that does its

own thing. If nutrition is correct, it does it in the right way. Now

if you insult a person in this way and try to trigger off something

that nature looks after, you're asking for all sorts of trouble, and

we don't believe it works. " —Glen Dettman Ph.D, interviewed by Jay

, and quoted in " The Great American Deception, " Let's Live,

December 1976, p. 57.

" Many measles vaccine efficacy studies relate to their ability to

stimulate an antibody response, (sero-conversion or sero-response).

An antibody response does not necessarily equate to immunity.........

the level of antibody needed for effective immunity is different in

each individual.....immunity can be demonstrated in individuals with

a low or no detectable levels of antibody. Similarly in other

individuals with higher levels of antibody there may be no immunity.

We therefore need to stay clear on the issue: How do we know if the

vaccine is effective for a particular individual when we do not know

what level of antibody production equals immunity? " --Trevor Gunn BSc

" The antibody business: Millions of screening tests are distributed,

each blood sample needs to be tested (4 millions in Germany

alone) ... The therapy business: Antiviral medication, 3 or 4 or 5

fold combinations, AIDS can´t be topped in this department. .......

With intoxication hypotheses on the other hand you cannot make any

money at all. The simple message is: Avoid the poison and you won´t

get sick. Such hypotheses are counterproductive insofar as the toxins

(drugs, alcohol, pills, phosmet) bring high revenues. The conflict of

interests is not resolvable: What virologist who does directly profit

millions from their patent rights of the HIV or HCV tests

(Montagnier, Simon Wain-Hobsen, Robin Weiss, Gallo) can risk

to take even one look in the other direction. " --By Claus Köhnlein

==>There are many natural remedies that will help your body get over

the flu, if it should happen, rather than poisoning your body with

vaccines.

Bee

November 15, 2006

Wow, thanks for the information. Very interesting and I will NOT be getting a

flu shot!

ita

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June 13, 2008

vitamin K has been linked to certain blood conditions and I think leukemia (sp?) is one of them.She is 2 years old now? If so, you can see a homeopath for detox options.On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Kimberley <due0806@...> wrote:

I'm rather new to the truth about vaccines. Two years ago when I was

pregnant with my daughter, I happily took advantage of the free flu

vaccine that my employer offered because I wouldn't want to get the flu

while pregnant, now would I?

I feel so bad now - knowing that I exposed her to this toxic crap for

no reason.

Can anyone tell me how much mercury she would have been exposed to and

what the consequences are? Is there anything I can do for her now in

terms of detox?

She did have a Vit K shot at birth, but she has had no vaccines, so I'm

grateful for that. What garbage was included with the Vit K shot?

Our next baby will be born at home and he will not receive any Vit K,

or anything else for that matter.

TIA,

Kimberley

June 13, 2008

vitamin K has been linked to certain blood conditions and I think leukemia (sp?) is one of them.She is 2 years old now? If so, you can see a homeopath for detox options.On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Kimberley <due0806@...> wrote:

I'm rather new to the truth about vaccines. Two years ago when I was

pregnant with my daughter, I happily took advantage of the free flu

vaccine that my employer offered because I wouldn't want to get the flu

while pregnant, now would I?

I feel so bad now - knowing that I exposed her to this toxic crap for

no reason.

Can anyone tell me how much mercury she would have been exposed to and

what the consequences are? Is there anything I can do for her now in

terms of detox?

She did have a Vit K shot at birth, but she has had no vaccines, so I'm

grateful for that. What garbage was included with the Vit K shot?

Our next baby will be born at home and he will not receive any Vit K,

or anything else for that matter.

TIA,

Kimberley

June 13, 2008

Hullo . About the Flu Shot, in a word....DONT Flu shot scam page 1 http://www.jeffreywarber.com/hc%20pages/fluscam.html Flue shot scam page 2 http://www.jeffreywarber.com/hc%20pages/fluscam2.html About the vit K shot. This is in most state's vaccination exemption information, esp at vaclib site. http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm Find your state and read the vit K info there. And its label warning for causing death. Also, this is a qood question and answer site about vit K injections. http://health.consumercide.com/vitaminKshots.html And Research all you can about it, *silver nitrate in eyes to* or any other vaccine, and each of their history, what the vaccine is meant to do, it's efficacy, and what the risk is for the vaccine vs.the disease. And the history of vaccinati, who started it, why it still exists today, who is behind it, and WHY. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

June 13, 2008

Hullo . About the Flu Shot, in a word....DONT Flu shot scam page 1 http://www.jeffreywarber.com/hc%20pages/fluscam.html Flue shot scam page 2 http://www.jeffreywarber.com/hc%20pages/fluscam2.html About the vit K shot. This is in most state's vaccination exemption information, esp at vaclib site. http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm Find your state and read the vit K info there. And its label warning for causing death. Also, this is a qood question and answer site about vit K injections. http://health.consumercide.com/vitaminKshots.html And Research all you can about it, *silver nitrate in eyes to* or any other vaccine, and each of their history, what the vaccine is meant to do, it's efficacy, and what the risk is for the vaccine vs.the disease. And the history of vaccinati, who started it, why it still exists today, who is behind it, and WHY. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

June 14, 2008

,

I fell for that too with my second daughter. They never told me it

had mercury and aluminum, which go right to the baby.

I think the flu shot had 25 micrograms of mercury at the time -

probably still does for adults.

For me, the flu shot while pregnant caused me to get flu the very

next day.

I read after she was born that moms that catch flu are more likely to

have kids with schizophrenia. Did they ever look into that aspect

before encouraging moms to get flu shots while pregnant? Doubt it. I

also read that flu shot has been linked to spontaneous abortion by

someone that studied the vaccine reaction data.

You might look into homeopathy for detoxing her. There are some

sequential homeopaths ( Coyle, Rudi Verspoor and Patty , and

Homeopathy Center of Houston) that step you backwards through all the

vaccines to detox from them.

-

>

> I'm rather new to the truth about vaccines. Two years ago when I

was

> pregnant with my daughter, I happily took advantage of the free flu

> vaccine that my employer offered because I wouldn't want to get the

flu

> while pregnant, now would I?

> I feel so bad now - knowing that I exposed her to this toxic crap

for

> no reason.

> Can anyone tell me how much mercury she would have been exposed to

and

> what the consequences are? Is there anything I can do for her now

in

> terms of detox?

> She did have a Vit K shot at birth, but she has had no vaccines, so

I'm

> grateful for that. What garbage was included with the Vit K shot?

> Our next baby will be born at home and he will not receive any Vit

K,

> or anything else for that matter.

>

> TIA,

> Kimberley

>

June 14, 2008

,

I fell for that too with my second daughter. They never told me it

had mercury and aluminum, which go right to the baby.

I think the flu shot had 25 micrograms of mercury at the time -

probably still does for adults.

For me, the flu shot while pregnant caused me to get flu the very

next day.

I read after she was born that moms that catch flu are more likely to

have kids with schizophrenia. Did they ever look into that aspect

before encouraging moms to get flu shots while pregnant? Doubt it. I

also read that flu shot has been linked to spontaneous abortion by

someone that studied the vaccine reaction data.

You might look into homeopathy for detoxing her. There are some

sequential homeopaths ( Coyle, Rudi Verspoor and Patty , and

Homeopathy Center of Houston) that step you backwards through all the

vaccines to detox from them.

-

>

> I'm rather new to the truth about vaccines. Two years ago when I

was

> pregnant with my daughter, I happily took advantage of the free flu

> vaccine that my employer offered because I wouldn't want to get the

flu

> while pregnant, now would I?

> I feel so bad now - knowing that I exposed her to this toxic crap

for

> no reason.

> Can anyone tell me how much mercury she would have been exposed to

and

> what the consequences are? Is there anything I can do for her now

in

> terms of detox?

> She did have a Vit K shot at birth, but she has had no vaccines, so

I'm

> grateful for that. What garbage was included with the Vit K shot?

> Our next baby will be born at home and he will not receive any Vit

K,

> or anything else for that matter.

>

> TIA,

> Kimberley

>

June 14, 2008

If you want to be rid of mercury http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm I have a problem with homeopothy. If dilute medicine heals then why doesnt dilute poison kill? Kirk <hilarydowning@...> wrote: ,I fell for that too with my second daughter. They never told me it had mercury and aluminum, which go right to the

baby.I think the flu shot had 25 micrograms of mercury at the time - probably still does for adults.For me, the flu shot while pregnant caused me to get flu the very next day. I read after she was born that moms that catch flu are more likely to have kids with schizophrenia. Did they ever look into that aspect before encouraging moms to get flu shots while pregnant? Doubt it. I also read that flu shot has been linked to spontaneous abortion by someone that studied the vaccine reaction data.You might look into homeopathy for detoxing her. There are some sequential homeopaths ( Coyle, Rudi Verspoor and Patty , and Homeopathy Center of Houston) that step you backwards through all the vaccines to detox from them.->> I'm rather new to the truth about vaccines. Two years ago when I was > pregnant with my daughter, I happily took advantage of the free flu >

vaccine that my employer offered because I wouldn't want to get the flu > while pregnant, now would I? > I feel so bad now - knowing that I exposed her to this toxic crap for > no reason.> Can anyone tell me how much mercury she would have been exposed to and > what the consequences are? Is there anything I can do for her now in > terms of detox?> She did have a Vit K shot at birth, but she has had no vaccines, so I'm > grateful for that. What garbage was included with the Vit K shot? > Our next baby will be born at home and he will not receive any Vit K, > or anything else for that matter. > > TIA,> Kimberley>

June 14, 2008

If you want to be rid of mercury http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm I have a problem with homeopothy. If dilute medicine heals then why doesnt dilute poison kill? Kirk <hilarydowning@...> wrote: ,I fell for that too with my second daughter. They never told me it had mercury and aluminum, which go right to the

baby.I think the flu shot had 25 micrograms of mercury at the time - probably still does for adults.For me, the flu shot while pregnant caused me to get flu the very next day. I read after she was born that moms that catch flu are more likely to have kids with schizophrenia. Did they ever look into that aspect before encouraging moms to get flu shots while pregnant? Doubt it. I also read that flu shot has been linked to spontaneous abortion by someone that studied the vaccine reaction data.You might look into homeopathy for detoxing her. There are some sequential homeopaths ( Coyle, Rudi Verspoor and Patty , and Homeopathy Center of Houston) that step you backwards through all the vaccines to detox from them.->> I'm rather new to the truth about vaccines. Two years ago when I was > pregnant with my daughter, I happily took advantage of the free flu >

vaccine that my employer offered because I wouldn't want to get the flu > while pregnant, now would I? > I feel so bad now - knowing that I exposed her to this toxic crap for > no reason.> Can anyone tell me how much mercury she would have been exposed to and > what the consequences are? Is there anything I can do for her now in > terms of detox?> She did have a Vit K shot at birth, but she has had no vaccines, so I'm > grateful for that. What garbage was included with the Vit K shot? > Our next baby will be born at home and he will not receive any Vit K, > or anything else for that matter. > > TIA,> Kimberley>

June 15, 2008

Hi ,

Glad you found the truth about vaccines. Sadly many parents have not and

are suffering the consequences of not asking 'what's in that shot', although

many doctors will assuage their patients that vaccines are 'safe'.

As for the amount of mercury in those flu shots, it's anywhere from 12.5 to

25 mcgs. of ethyl mercury. More than likely, as an adult, you would have

received the usual 25 mcgs. as hep b shots given to the baby within 12 hours of

birth are usually 12.5 mcgs., and possibly up to 25 mcgs. Even vaccines that

are labeled 'thimerosol' or 'preservative' free, still contain mercury as the

FDA allows this labeling if the mercury content falls below the allowable

threshold for mercury exposure. The EPA 'acceptable' guideline for daily mercury

exposure is 0.10 mcg. of mercury per kilo of body weight.

So essentially, a newborn w/a hepB shot is getting a dose that's acceptable for

someone who weighs over 200#. A 10# baby can receive the same dosage as a 200#

man.

I would definitely recommend chelation therapy and I would inquire of

www.nvic.org (Nat'l Vaccine Info Center) as well as other vaccine info sites

such as www.thinktwice.com and www.mercola.com for info. I'm sure there are

many readers on this site who have valuable info re: chelation therapy. W/the

flu shot, you also received heavy doses of aluminum, formaldehyde, di-ethylene

glycol (anti-freeze), msg, carbolic acid, squalene, neomycin, streptomycin,

etc., etc. Google search Dr. Hugh Fudenberg for his 10-year study on how 5

consecutive flu shots can increase your risk by 10x of developing Alzheimer's.

I'm glad you're not allowing your children any more vaccines. I too had my

children at home and have never vaccinated and they are now teens and among the

healthiest of children. Many of our friend's children have never been

vaccinated and of 7 doctors I know, none vaccinate their own children or

recommend them to their patients, despite the 'health' dept. breathing down

their necks. They've seen too much vaccine damage over the years and two of the

doctors are treating vaccine-damaged children. It's estimated that appx. 1

million individuals are damaged by vaccines each year. $91 million was

compensated in 2007 for vaccine damage.

And for the record, vaccines are NOT mandatory for school admittance. The only

'mandatory' requirement is to fill out the immunization schedule w/allowable

exemptions on the back. Check with www.nvic.org for their schedule for the

legally allowable exemptions for each state.

Best of luck to you ~

June 15, 2008