Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 One question though, why does it take a bout of Lyme Disease to bring a person out? This is a nightmare!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 I hate NJ it gave me all these horrible memories!!!!!! All of which I can't wait to forget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:57:51 EDT > From: y26778@... > Subject: Re: NY Times Article > > A nation of disabled citizens?? Hmm, maybe it should include a > large portion of the docs that get paid off by the HMO's to say > that there is no such thing as Lyme Disease. Just a thought. > Biddle Believe me, , NOTHING would " make my day " like seeing those idiots drooling and strapped into wheelchairs! They're already " mentally " disabled - all that remains is the physical destruction! Patty (MD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 OOOhhhhh I just love all this bitterness, I am in one of those moods where I am wishing Lyme disease on everyone at this point, well not everyone really, just the naysayers, be they doctors, insurers, politicians or rotten neighbors. Feeling Mean in NJ >From: McDermott <pattymcd@...> > >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:57:51 EDT >> From: y26778@... >> Subject: Re: NY Times Article >> >> A nation of disabled citizens?? Hmm, maybe it should include a >> large portion of the docs that get paid off by the HMO's to say >> that there is no such thing as Lyme Disease. Just a thought. >> Biddle > > >Believe me, , NOTHING would " make my day " like seeing those >idiots drooling and strapped into wheelchairs! They're already > " mentally " disabled - all that remains is the physical destruction! > > Patty > (MD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Hi , Not surprised you picked up your Lyme in NJ, but we are only one of many states that have Lyme carrying ticks spreading their disease. Maybe you would like to share your story, it helps to vent and especially to learn you are not alone? Up to you though, hope you are enjoying the list and it is helping you somewhat. I hated NJ before I got bit.....LOL! Supportive hugs, Marta >From: y26778@... > >I hate NJ it gave me all these horrible memories!!!!!! >All of which I can't wait to forget! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 In a message dated 7/13/99 6:27:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pattymcd@... writes: << A nation of disabled citizens?? Hmm, maybe it should include a > large portion of the docs that get paid off by the HMO's to say > that there is no such thing as Lyme Disease. Just a thought. > Biddle Believe me, , NOTHING would " make my day " like seeing those idiots drooling and strapped into wheelchairs! They're already " mentally " disabled - all that remains is the physical destruction! Patty >> AMEN TO THAT !!!!!, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Dear Kay, I couldn't agree with you more concerning this statement you made about the types of illnesses people will respond to positively. It is unique to find any person who will just accept the suffering no matter what form it comes in. It is comparable to people fawning all over the acutely ill person but for a chronic case there is little real sympathy...seems like everyone just gives up...even many doctors. You'll probably pull out of this depression and hopefully it will be by meeting someone who can be sensitive no matter what form the problems come in. Naturally many of these kinds of people are on the net trying to reach out to each other. Thanks for posting your " reality " ....I appreciate it greatly. Cheryl in Chico California " if it was a f'ing tumor we would be BURIED in lasagnia and pie. i am so depressed i can't respond more. " (snip) peace, kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 1999 Report Share Posted July 14, 1999 I hope it's OK - I'm going to respond to several posts in one. For those of us getting the Digest form, it's more complicated to respond to posts and covering multiple posts in one response is quicker and easier! > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:23:44 -0400 > From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...> > Subject: Re: Re: NY Times Article on LD > > Not much difference there.....Sigal is Steere's puppet. > LOL, > Marta NJ Isn't THAT the truth!!! <G> Patty - MD > >From: McDermott <pattymcd@...> > > > >Oooops - that's a " Segalism " not a " Steereism " !!! <G> *************************************************************** > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:30:57 -0400 > From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...> > Subject: Re: NY Times Article > > Hi Patty, > > >From: McDermott <pattymcd@...> > > > > > Suppose an UNinfected tick feeds off of someone who has Lyme > > - does the tick become infected? Can it then transmit it to > > it's next victim? > >The whole thing is very scary > > > Yes, I guess that can happen too.......If the buggers weren't > so damned small, it would be neat if someone could do a > documentary on " A day in the life of a tick " They could follow > one around with cameras and see what havoc they cause. I just read somewhere - maybe it was here but darn if I can remember - that some agency is catching ticks & marking them then setting them free (sure wouldn't be MY choice!!!) in an effort to follow the little blood suckers! > >I'm not saying this is true everywhere, but the trees are raining > >ticks here at my home. Arrrrrrrgh! > > Yes, the more I think about this, the more feasible it appears. > Birds carry ticks, birds land in trees, ticks drop off birds, > ticks mate in trees, lay millions of eggs, eggs hatch and grow, > ticks fall out of tree seeking host......Yuuuuccck....Tell Skip > I said to carry an umbrella sprayed with Deet when out in the yard.... > > Sounds like a Twilight Zone episode to me. You've GOT it Marta - scary scenario isn't it? LOL - I'll tell Skip about your suggestion - pretty good one actually! OH YES - definitely Twilight Zone material! YUCK! ***************************************************************** > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:45:14 -0400 > From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...> > Subject: Re: Hi from a loooong-time Lurker! > > Welcome from the land of the lurkers, Patty, Thank you, Marta! > I am so happy you are feeling well enough to join in here, I > know you have much experience and common sense to offer us, I > have come to rely on your sage advice, friendship and calming > nature to get me through some really bad times. Thank you - it's good to feel useful again! And I say the same about you good buddy - we've held one another's hands through some really tough times. > memory can no longer be trusted. Memory - sounds familiar - I think I used to have one of those!!! ******************************************************************* > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 03:01:49 -0400 > From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...> > Subject: Re: Pain - Pain Meds - Herxing > > > Thanks for sharing this excellent piece by Dr. Lynn Shepler. You're very welcome. She's one smart lady! > Glad you got her permission to post it, I often forget (?) to get > permission when I swipe stuff from the Lyme-L list, and I really > should since that is a private email list, I try to console myself > with the fact that the archives are open to all, but still......I > will try to remember in the future. I don't think it's a big deal if you're posting information - I think the permission is a good idea though if an individual's name, etc. is included. Ummmmm...it's that " memory " thing again, Marta. <g> > I found her theories fascinating, as you know, I rely on pain > meds, and often feel so guilty about it, like maybe I should try > to tough it out longer. What she says about building up tolerance > to them is so true, and frightens me that I have had to move on to > stronger stuff. I have never felt like I was addicted to them > though, when I have had good days in the past, I didn't take them. Dependence is one thing - necessity is another, Marta, and pain meds are often the only way to stop that pain-stress-increased pain cycle. I think that's why her suggestion about switching pain meds is a good one - hopefully, that would help decrease the possibility of the " tolerance " issue. > It is wonderful that a doctor is actually validating the severe > pain that can, and does occur in some Lyme patients. Of course > the sad part is she has Lyme and that's how she knows. Yes, it really is wonderful - and sadly, having LD is probably the primary reason we have any LLD's. ************************************************************** > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:35:52 EDT > From: Shasus@... > Subject: Re: NY Times Article > > In a message dated 99-07-13 01:53:30 EDT, you write: > > Patti. > > Where in land do you live? I live in Laurel.. your area seem > really unusually infested. > > elizabeth > md Hi , I live in Huntingtown (Calvert County - Southern MD). YES, this immediate area seems to be heavily infested. Yet, in Dunkirk (7 miles north) & Prince Frederick (7 miles south) the same degree of infestation doesn't appear to exist. My hubby's best friend lives in Dunkirk & is in his yard (grows veggies) and walks wooded trails all the time and has never found one tick on his body! I'm really beginning to think that our immediate area is what they call a " hot spot " . We're spraying a LOT this year! I'm so paranoid now that I won't even go out on our property and I get nervous just walking from the house to the car when I have doctor appointments! I never thought I'd say this, but I'm hoping for a FREEZING winter this year! I know Laurel well - used to shop at the Laurel Mall a LOT before we moved down here! Wow...do I ever miss those days! ******************************************************************* Well, the ole brain just died so I'm hoping I can finally get some sleep. I was up until 9am Tuesday morning and caught a few hours of sleep in the afternoon, and now, at 6am Wednesday, it's all catching up with me. I really HATE insomnia! Take care and hugs to all, Patty -- Sometimes on our way to our dreams we get lost - and find something even better. Home Page: http://www.olg.com/pattymcd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 Carolyn, Thank you so much for replying to my question on speech delay, It has been very frustrating with , because I know she understands but as with you I am so busy with work and the other kids that we just give in to her needs. I am going to take your advice about signing and asking what she needs and wait for a reply or help her with the correct response. She currently is the only girl in the family and I think is a wee bit spoiled. We are having another baby in the beginning of Jan. so who knows maybe being the " big " sister will encourage a developmental spurt. Keep me posted on Emma I always think about her because her and my Emm seem so similar. Thanks so much Diane Adam 8, and 4 and number 4 arriving in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 I've tried to get into this site and am having zippo luck. Any one else having problems? in Chapel Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 : I tried for months and finally e-mailed dr. rutledge and presto! He has the magic touch. I think he may be doing it differently now so try e-mailing him. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 I have never been able to get in. Have tried every suggestion anyone makes. Pat Re: Digest Number 467 I've tried to get into this site and am having zippo luck. Any one else having problems? in Chapel Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Francesca, Yes of course I have cut out sugar and did so long before I started CRON. The crazy thing is, I was amazed to find that pretty much any packaged good on the shelves has sugar in it. That includes almost all breads and cereals - even some various veggie burgers that I eat have sugar in them. I have always tried to eat whole foods in their natural forms, but I do buy some packaged vegetarian products for the sake of convenience, and am dissapointed to find that most of them have sugar in them. I agree completely with what you are saying, but after going through my pantry and looking at the labels, there is basicaly sugar in everything! I would say that a hypo diet is a lot more difficult than I would have thought. Thanks, Amy Message: 4Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 12:03:06 -0500From: Francesca Skelton Subject: Re: sugarap4bwc wrote:> I have decided to try to cut sugar out of my diet and only eat> complex carbs, at least for 7 days to see if I feel any better. At> this point I will try anything to overcome my daily troubles with> fatigue, foggy head, dizziness, headaches, etc.If you are practising CRON, you should be cutting sugar out of your dietanyway. Sugar increases appetite, is loaded with calories, has no nutritivevalue, and in some people is thought to cause adult onset diabetes. Manynutritionists and doctors feel that sugar is the most disease promoting foodin humans (others think fat is), not to mention the cause of obesity . Soif you're on this list and interested in a CR diet, you should have cutsugar first thing. Read the CR support files.Amy PurdumCommunications SpecialistBill CenterPh: (408) 850-6156email: ap4bwc@...http://www.billwilsoncenter.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Hi-- This reminds me of an instance which may or may not be relevant. If you take niacin on an empty stomach, you begin to get itchy and red, starting at the top of the head. This gradually moves down the face, neck, chest, and to the waist. It seems to stop there. Why the redness should be localized is a mystery to me, but begins in one place, not affecting the others, and then progresses in an orderly way, as if controlled by an outside mechanism. Niacin also promotes calm and sleep, so it has at least some effect on the brain. Thanks, Gene Resolving trauma & Blood Flow > Dear Hershel > (...) > As you know in Old times , the European Women (Frech Times , last centuries > " Courts Isues " ) , use to wear the dress with a " High Expossure " of 3/4 of > the breasts......or more.. :-) ..... > > So when this ladies get " ashamed " or....something else...(I dont know , what > might somebody wispered there ????...) I was not there) , they used to > become " red " in all the area of the breast also!!! , not only the face > like in our times. > > So....! ¿ what do you think that happened with this very specific > Topographic distribution of blood flow in relation to a specifc emotion, > that was " Overriding " every logical artery or venous circuitry? > > Also, > ¿ why do you think might be the means to make a guy that " Visualizes " one > hand in Very Cold Water , and that hand becomes pale with > vasoconstriction and reduces blood flow. And in the other hand " Visualizes " > the hand in Very Hot Water ...... and and the hand becomes red with > vasodilatation effect and increases in great measure the blood flow? > > Warm regards > > > www.qeeg.com.ar > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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