Re: Update on Tanner on Nutriiveda/interestingnew study

[Guest guest]

Hi !

Not Barbara but I'm sure she'll get back to you when she has a chance. Just

wanted to say that through Pursuit of Research we currently are not offering one

canister (which would be 40 dollars) as we were having the products shipped out

through Zrii corporate. If you only wanted to order one canister you could

order through http://www.speech411.com and then you could order just one

chocolate or vanilla.

There are a few professionals that are either using the product for

themselves/clients or both. I don't believe any at this point would be an

expert as even the medical doctors Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon who helped formulate

this did not create this product knowing it would have affects on anything but

the metabolic system....then again perhaps we've all just unlocked another piece

of the puzzle to what's going on with our kids and it is all rooted in the

metabolic system?

I feel most comfortable having each of you check with your own child's doctors

and professionals even if there are professionals from this group now using and

supporting Cherab. I am that confident that the product will be approved -and

that if the professional is knowledgeable about nutrition will be impressed by

the product. I know Barbara had told me about one medical doctor in her area

(the DC area) and the dosages I put out here were the ones that he agreed with.

(but I did look up on the NIH website -so I cheated

Here's the ingredient list for the chocolate and vanilla to share with your

child's doctor:

chocolate

http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Choco_NutritionFacts.pdf

vanilla

http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Vanilla_NutritionFacts.pdf

If you order through the Pursuit of Research it does set everyone up on an

autoship...but that can be cancelled or paused at any time. Plus the product

has a 100 percent money back guarantee.

From what I read your daughter who is 2 years 9 months could get 1 scoop a day

(together or split in half which one of my MD friends thought would be better)

and your 8 year old daughter could have 2 scoops a day -again split up would

probably be best.

Again double check all I have written here with your children's pediatrician or

neuromedical doctor...and/or anyone who works with your child that is a

dietician etc. that you trust and respect. The more knowledgeable the better.

I'm finding that like the fish oils the better doctors are today aware of the

importance of nutrition and it's effect on our children...and all of us.

And don't forget -join us on BigTent!! Barbara who is an SLP that is very

knowledgeable about Big Tent as well due to other groups she belongs to

there...thus one of the people that convinced me it's a great place for our

group to grow will be starting an ask the expert section. At least get started

-it's free and easy. It's a great site to not only share -but start blogs and

personal pages if you want too! https://www.bigtent.com/groups/cherab

PS -if you are going to use the nutriiveda for 2 kids...the one canister will

last you around one week as there are only 30 scoops per canister

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Yes, just sent my message. , apparently, you type faster than I do!

J

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director/ Help Me Speak, LLC

<http://www.helpmespeak.com/> http://www.helpmespeak.com

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:13 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Update on Tanner on

Nutriiveda/interestingnew study

Hi !

Not Barbara but I'm sure she'll get back to you when she has a chance. Just

wanted to say that through Pursuit of Research we currently are not offering

one canister (which would be 40 dollars) as we were having the products

shipped out through Zrii corporate. If you only wanted to order one canister

you could order through http://www.speech411.com and then you could order

just one chocolate or vanilla.

There are a few professionals that are either using the product for

themselves/clients or both. I don't believe any at this point would be an

expert as even the medical doctors Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon who helped

formulate this did not create this product knowing it would have affects on

anything but the metabolic system....then again perhaps we've all just

unlocked another piece of the puzzle to what's going on with our kids and it

is all rooted in the metabolic system?

I feel most comfortable having each of you check with your own child's

doctors and professionals even if there are professionals from this group

now using and supporting Cherab. I am that confident that the product will

be approved -and that if the professional is knowledgeable about nutrition

will be impressed by the product. I know Barbara had told me about one

medical doctor in her area (the DC area) and the dosages I put out here were

the ones that he agreed with. (but I did look up on the NIH website -so I

cheated

Here's the ingredient list for the chocolate and vanilla to share with your

child's doctor:

chocolate

http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Choco_NutritionFacts.pdf

vanilla

http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Vanilla_NutritionFacts.pdf

If you order through the Pursuit of Research it does set everyone up on an

autoship...but that can be cancelled or paused at any time. Plus the product

has a 100 percent money back guarantee.

From what I read your daughter who is 2 years 9 months could get 1 scoop a

day (together or split in half which one of my MD friends thought would be

better) and your 8 year old daughter could have 2 scoops a day -again split

up would probably be best.

Again double check all I have written here with your children's pediatrician

or neuromedical doctor...and/or anyone who works with your child that is a

dietician etc. that you trust and respect. The more knowledgeable the

better. I'm finding that like the fish oils the better doctors are today

aware of the importance of nutrition and it's effect on our children...and

all of us.

And don't forget -join us on BigTent!! Barbara who is an SLP that is very

knowledgeable about Big Tent as well due to other groups she belongs to

there...thus one of the people that convinced me it's a great place for our

group to grow will be starting an ask the expert section. At least get

started -it's free and easy. It's a great site to not only share -but start

blogs and personal pages if you want too!

https://www.bigtent.com/groups/cherab

PS -if you are going to use the nutriiveda for 2 kids...the one canister

will last you around one week as there are only 30 scoops per canister

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[Guest guest]

Thank you and yes Barbara also replied on my post!  Thank you for your

thoughtful concerns and support for ALL of us in this group!  It means a lot to

have someone like you and Barbara constantly answering questions repeatedly and

unconditionally for all of those " worried " , " crazy " and " scared " mommies . 

Thank you again and YES I will try to order 2 canisters to start with, since I

also wanted my older daughter to try as well.

 

Take care,

 

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Update on Tanner on Nutriiveda/interestingnew

study

Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 2:12 PM

 

Hi !

Not Barbara but I'm sure she'll get back to you when she has a chance. Just

wanted to say that through Pursuit of Research we currently are not offering one

canister (which would be 40 dollars) as we were having the products shipped out

through Zrii corporate. If you only wanted to order one canister you could order

through http://www.speech411.com and then you could order just one chocolate or

vanilla.

There are a few professionals that are either using the product for

themselves/clients or both. I don't believe any at this point would be an expert

as even the medical doctors Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon who helped formulate this

did not create this product knowing it would have affects on anything but the

metabolic system....then again perhaps we've all just unlocked another piece of

the puzzle to what's going on with our kids and it is all rooted in the

metabolic system?

I feel most comfortable having each of you check with your own child's doctors

and professionals even if there are professionals from this group now using and

supporting Cherab. I am that confident that the product will be approved -and

that if the professional is knowledgeable about nutrition will be impressed by

the product. I know Barbara had told me about one medical doctor in her area

(the DC area) and the dosages I put out here were the ones that he agreed with.

(but I did look up on the NIH website -so I cheated

Here's the ingredient list for the chocolate and vanilla to share with your

child's doctor:

chocolate

http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Choco_NutritionFacts.pdf

vanilla

http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Vanilla_NutritionFacts.pdf

If you order through the Pursuit of Research it does set everyone up on an

autoship...but that can be cancelled or paused at any time. Plus the product has

a 100 percent money back guarantee.

From what I read your daughter who is 2 years 9 months could get 1 scoop a day

(together or split in half which one of my MD friends thought would be better)

and your 8 year old daughter could have 2 scoops a day -again split up would

probably be best.

Again double check all I have written here with your children's pediatrician or

neuromedical doctor...and/ or anyone who works with your child that is a

dietician etc. that you trust and respect. The more knowledgeable the better.

I'm finding that like the fish oils the better doctors are today aware of the

importance of nutrition and it's effect on our children...and all of us.

And don't forget -join us on BigTent!! Barbara who is an SLP that is very

knowledgeable about Big Tent as well due to other groups she belongs to

there...thus one of the people that convinced me it's a great place for our

group to grow will be starting an ask the expert section. At least get started

-it's free and easy. It's a great site to not only share -but start blogs and

personal pages if you want too! https://www.bigtent.com/groups/cherab

PS -if you are going to use the nutriiveda for 2 kids...the one canister will

last you around one week as there are only 30 scoops per canister

=====

[Guest guest]

How long does the $87.50 container last? Is it a couple of months?

>

> It's $87.50 (incl tax & sh) You can find it at

http://www.pursuitofresearch.org Contact me if you have any questions

>

> Warmest wishes,

>

> Barbara A , M.S., CCC-SLP

> Executive Director, Help Me Speak, LLC

> 410-442-9791

>

> [ ] Update on Tanner on Nutriiveda/interesting new

> study

>

> Â

> Hi all!

>

> Well I have been posting to our new BigTent group and am loving it there -but

> wanted to share here as well for those of you who have not moved over yet.

First

> of all for those that don't know - our BigTent group which is free and private

> and has way more in the arena of options to make sharing with each other

better

> is at https://www.bigtent.com/groups/cherab

>

> Tanner has been on the nutriiveda since September but because it was on

> backorder until mid October he really has only been on it since mid October.

As

> I let everyone know it wasn't only us that noticed improvements in Tanner's

> speech as we got a call from his head of school who reported not only vast

> improvements in speech but in focus, academics -specifically reading as he all

> of a sudden was walking around reading books, alert, and not only talking

better

> -but much more alert and talkative throughout the day -specifically after

lunch

> when reportedly prior to nutriiveda after lunch he used to be " wiped out " . As

> far as weight I know many of the little ones do not need to lose weight, and

> this product is fine for them too, but as Tanner got older he appeared to be

> putting weight on in his stomach and neck- as Dr. Agin said it looked like

> something metabolic was going on (this was in spite of the fact Tanner was

> tested for everything under the sun and

> tested negative) Tanner has always eaten very healthy too. I just uploaded

> photos of Tanner to the photo section here and of course they are on our

BigTent

> group as well. Tanner is now at a perfect weight for his height -we are

thrilled

> with that but of course even more with how well he is doing on this product.

He

> lost 12 pounds and grew over an inch since starting. He is now 5 foot 8 1/2

> inches and 150 pounds (13 years old)

>

> Since Mel is not on any fish oils at all and doing so amazing I found that to

be

> most interesting. Tanner when I started the nutriiveda was still on his

regular

> 4 ProEFA and 2 ProEPA and in the past if I lowered that in any way he would

> regress. Sometime after Thanksgiving I lowered Tanner cold turkey to a 1/2

> dosage 2 ProEFA 1 ProEPA just to see if I noticed any regression -I didn't. I

> don't want to stop the fish oils as we have heart disease in our family and

know

> that will help my boys no matter what but do find it interesting that Tanner

did

> not regress from his dosage being cut in half. I strongly feel this product is

> supporting his metabolic system in some way.

>

> For those of you who are friends of mine on fb you will know that in general

> Tanner's facial expressions in photo for random photos (not the ones I hand

pick

> out) he doesn't always have much in the way of facial expressions. What you'll

> notice when you look at the photos of Tanner in the uploads is that in every

> photo he now has facial expressions. Some of you may not recall but a few

years

> ago Dr. Jonas and I even tried attaching electrodes to his face to try to

> stimulate the nerve endings in his face to try to get his to move his facial

> muscles more as his oral apraxia gave him such a blank look too much of the

> time. No longer -and how easy was it.

>

> I've been getting such great feedback from parents of children with ADHD too

> (mainly teens that are on meds) that we started my son Dakota on it too. If

> anyone has interest in this area let me know and I can get you the phone

number

> of some of the other parents. I currently have an early childhood professional

> that is interested in interviewing each of the families to see what she can

> learn as to why this appears to be working. She is interested in starting a

blog

> as well; so look for it at http://www.pursuito freserach. org under " blogs "

>

> So why? Is it the synergistic blend of ayurveda, protein, amino acids? I don't

> know if any of us will know for sure anytime soon but do know that I don't yet

> know of one doctor who has not approved this for the kids. Like the fish oils

> most say they don't know if it will help in any way -but " can't hurt " So why

> perhaps is it working? Well I posted the other day about the amino acid/neuro

> improvement link in mice. Today I want to leave everyone with this interesting

> study that to me perhaps explains possible links to metabolic/diet and neuro

> conditions:

>

> Loss of epigenetic regulators causes mental retardation

>

> Developing neurons don't just need the right genes to guide them as they grow,

> they need access to the right genes at the right times. The improper

functioning

> of one specific protein complex that normally suppresses gene activation is

> responsible for a mental retardation- like syndrome in mice, reports a team of

> scientists at The Rockefeller University. New findings, published in recent

> issues of Neuron and Science, indicate that malfunction of this protein

complex

> causes mental retardation in mice and humans and may even play a role in

> promoting susceptibility to drug addiction. The research also establishes the

> complex as a key regulator of neuronal transcriptional identity.

>

> " This research is the result of a close collaboration between our group and

that

> of Tarakhovsky, which is focused on understanding the role of

> epigenetic mechanisms in brain function, such as learning and memory, " says

> senior coauthor Greengard, Astor Professor and head of the

> Laboratory of Molecular and Cellular Neuroscience. Greengard won the 2000

Nobel

> Prize in Physiology or Medicine for research into how neurons communicate.

>

> " Our findings may facilitate the identification of mechanisms responsible for

> long-term storage of environmental information in neurons as well as other

cell

> types, " says senior coauthor Tarakhovsky, professor and

> head of the Laboratory of Lymphocyte Signaling. " We now have an animal system

> that not only reproduces the human disease but may also enable us to

understand

> the underlying mechanisms. "

>

> Although genes provide the fixed template that instructs our cells how to

grow,

> increasing evidence suggests that gene activity is governed by a group of

> proteins known as histones. Histones are subjected to chemical modifications

> that can permit or prevent genes from becoming active. These modifications are

> established by specific enzymes that add well-defined chemical residues to the

> amino acids localized within the tails of the histone proteins. Histone

> modifications were first identified in the early 1960s by Rockefeller

scientist

> Allfrey and his colleagues. During the past two decades, research by

> Rockefeller University's C. Allis suggested that histone modification

> could generate a unique epigenetic " code " that regulates the specific

> recruitment of gene expression activators and repressors to individual genes.

>

> The research program of the Greengard and Tarakhovsky labs focuses on GLP/G9a,

> an enzyme pair responsible for inducing an epigenetic mark widely known to

> silence gene expression in mammals, including humans. By attaching two methyl

> chemical groups to a specific amino acid on a specific histone, GLP/G9a

> suppresses gene activity. Tarakhovsky and his colleagues, who study GLP/G9a

and

> its role in epigenetic regulation of inflammatory responses, created a strain

of

> mice that enables conditional removal of this complex in various cell types,

> including neurons in the adult brain.

>

> First author Anne Schaefer, a senior research associate in Greengard's lab,

> subjected these mice to a battery of behavioral tests and determined that they

> behave much like humans with a mental retardation syndrome called the 9q34

> deletion syndrome, in which the region of chromosome 9 that codes for the GLP

> genes is missing. The mice lacking GLP/G9a, unlike their normal counterparts,

> were not afraid of open space, were lethargic (and as a result, obese) and had

> problems learning to adapt to their environment.

>

> The researchers compared the brains of normal mice and the conditional

knockouts

> and found that there were no structural differences between them. In other

> words, the behavioral and learning problems associated with the conditional

> knockouts were not due to any kind of damage to the brain's structure or to

the

> individual neurons.

>

> " This suppressive epigenetic mark completely disappears in these mice, but the

> neurons themselves do not die and appear normal, " says Schaefer. " The mice

> maintain many of their basal behavioral functions, such as eating and

breeding,

> but they display abnormal behavior in response to various environmental

> signals. "

>

> Schaefer and her colleagues also found that loss of GLP/G9a resulted in

> increased expression of genes usually found in muscles and the heart. In

> addition to their analysis of genes that change in the different brain

regions,

> they used a cellular analysis technique developed in labs headed by

Rockefeller

> scientist iel Heintz and Greengard, called TRAP, which reveals

> transcriptional profiles by isolating the RNA messages from structurally and

> functionally defined individual cell populations.

>

> " We found that several nonneuronal genes, normally suppressed by the

epigenetic

> mark, became upregulated in the GLP/G9a conditional knockouts, " says Schaefer.

>

> According to Schaefer and her colleagues, it's also possible that genetically

> predetermined or environmentally induced changes of the epigenetic regulators

> controlling the methylation mark on histone H3 may be responsible for

individual

> differences in learning and social adaptation.

>

> The Greengard and Tarakhovsky labs have taken these findings a step further in

> collaboration with Nestler's lab at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine.

In

> research reported in the the January 8 issue of the journal Science, they

found

> that repeated cocaine administration promotes cocaine preference in mice,

> revealing a key role for G9a in drug addiction.

>

> Epigenetic regulators are considered the " last frontier " by pharmaceutical

> companies, Tarakhovsky says, because of their position in the chain of events

in

> cell signaling. " The major excitement of these findings is that there are very

> few proteins known to have such key regulatory functions and are structurally

> well defined. That means it should be possible to design drugs that

specifically

> interfere with their activity. "

> http://newswire. rockefeller. edu/?page= engine & id= 1021

>

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