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Hi, I've been lurking (I hate that word!) but am trying to get on the Monday night chat room. Now that school is out and I don't have to focus as much on getting my daughter through homework and to bed, I hope to join in the chat room and "come out" as someone committed to working on doing CR . Just for now, I wanted to say thank you for the information on heavy walking. I just started walking every morning and have noticed accumulating pain in my knees--heavy walking makes a lot of sense. I am going to work on it. Any more thoughts on heavy walking would be welcome. Pat

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Visit your local bookstore and look for booksin the sports section related

to running injuries. While walking is less impact, one can have many of

the same problems that runners have. For instance pronation (how the foot

rolls during your stride) can cause delayed (later in the day or next day)

knee pain. This can be mitigated through the use of orthodics. If you

have immediate pain, there may be something wrong with that joint and you

should consult your physician.

One also has to consider the relationship of exercise to CR. The benifits

of CR come (at least from everthing I've seen) from a reduction in

calories, not a reduction in weight. Exercising for cardiovascular benifit

is appropriate, for weight contol (in a CR lifestyle) not so appropriate.

My goal is about 1800 Kcal/day with about 20 miles of running. I'm letting

my weight gradually fall and when I get down to about 165 (I'm 6'1 " ,

currently 203 pounds, down from 220, and age 56) then I'll add some

calories at that time to maintain 165 as a floor.

All things in moderation :-))>

regards,

pkolmer265@... on 06/13/2002 06:18:59 PM

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Subject: [ ] Re: Heavy walking

Hi, I've been lurking (I hate that word!) but am trying to get on the

Monday night chat room. Now that school is out and I don't have to focus as

much on getting my daughter through homework and to bed, I hope to join in

the chat room and " come out " as someone committed to working on doing CR .

Just for now, I wanted to say thank you for the information on heavy

walking. I just started walking every morning and have noticed accumulating

pain in my knees--heavy walking makes a lot of sense. I am going to work on

it. Any more thoughts on heavy walking would be welcome.

Pat

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on 6/14/2002 9:52 AM, bareynol@... at

bareynol@... wrote:

> The benifits

> of CR come (at least from everthing I've seen) from a reduction in

> calories, not a reduction in weight.

Yes!! calories is the magic word!

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Good advice, the Jeff Galloway book on running is a classic...

JR

-----Original Message-----From: bareynol@... [mailto:bareynol@...]Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Heavy walkingVisit your local bookstore and look for booksin the sports section relatedto running injuries. While walking is less impact, one can have many ofthe same problems that runners have. For instance pronation (how the footrolls during your stride) can cause delayed (later in the day or next day)knee pain. This can be mitigated through the use of orthodics. If youhave immediate pain, there may be something wrong with that joint and youshould consult your physician.One also has to consider the relationship of exercise to CR. The benifitsof CR come (at least from everthing I've seen) from a reduction incalories, not a reduction in weight. Exercising for cardiovascular benifitis appropriate, for weight contol (in a CR lifestyle) not so appropriate.My goal is about 1800 Kcal/day with about 20 miles of running. I'm lettingmy weight gradually fall and when I get down to about 165 (I'm 6'1",currently 203 pounds, down from 220, and age 56) then I'll add somecalories at that time to maintain 165 as a floor.All things in moderation :-))>regards, pkolmer265@... on 06/13/2002 06:18:59 PMPlease respond to To: cc:Subject: [ ] Re: Heavy walkingHi, I've been lurking (I hate that word!) but am trying to get on theMonday night chat room. Now that school is out and I don't have to focus asmuch on getting my daughter through homework and to bed, I hope to join inthe chat room and "come out" as someone committed to working on doing CR .Just for now, I wanted to say thank you for the information on heavywalking. I just started walking every morning and have noticed accumulatingpain in my knees--heavy walking makes a lot of sense. I am going to work onit. Any more thoughts on heavy walking would be welcome.Pat

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A few more thoughts regarding " Heavy Walking " . There was another

post that said the Jeff Galloway book is a classic. That is

certainly so. However...

I recently was exposed to a book entitled " Programmed to Run " by Tom

. Dr. , having done thorough analysis of elite runners,

while noting how much he respects Galloway's accomplishments and

contributions, specifically takes exception with some of the

biomechanical recomendations Galloway makes. I have begun to

incorporate Dr. 's suggestions and so far find them to be

powerful in terms of enhancing performance and minimizing,(if not, to

some degree treating, through allowing neuro-musculo-skelatal

conditioning under proper allignment,) injuries. An important point

of his is " light steps " . His web site, ( which is spartan,) is

www.scooterbikerun.com. If you are interested in what he has to say

about scooters, see www.kickbikeusa.com

You might also want to check out www.exerstrider.com. I posted on

the other list about this wonderful, simple yet powerful tool, and

was chastised for being " off topic " ( I probably was, I guess,) and

then told that I presented like an infomercial. ( Alas, the price of

wishing to share with others an idea that one is enthusiastic about. )

In a nutshell, I think Exerstriders are great for CRONIES because

speed is limited when one uses them (unlike jogging/running). This

is beneficial because exercise that is too intense brings along with

it the negative aspects of exercise ( stresses the immune system,

free radical damage etc.,) The beauty of walking is that you get the

benefits of exercise without those negatives. With exerstriders, you

also get impact reduction ( a concern for

injury/osteoporosis/sufferers, physically challenged, etc...) while

at the same time getting gentle resistance training, which is also

beneficial (for everone generally and for CRONIES in particular.)

Although " Programmed to Run " and " Galloway on Running " obviously talk

about running, there are numerous good books on walking. Also

obviously, one could check Amazon or the other booksellers. You may

wish to check out " Walk yourself well " , by Sherry Brourman. Ms.

Brourman, a physical therapist explains how to use walking ( not

running technique which you'll have to adopt to walking,) to heal

aches and pains.

On the sister list a while back I remember reading a post by (if my

memory is correct,) an ex-marine who advised building endurance in

boucing up and down on your toes in place so that the heals do not

touch the ground, and working up to 10 and then 30 minutes.

According to this gentleman, this exercise helped develop the light

footedness that is the key to injury free running/walking.

Best,

Eddie

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