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This is no doubt true--since I lived with OCD for 36 years and was too

embarassed to even admit some things to myself.

If someone has been in therapy for 25 years and still not told their

psychiatrists about their OCD symptoms, what are the chances for better

management? In fact, I would suggest that they are continuing with this

therapy as a form of " reassurance seeking " which is just another " mental

checking " kind of compulsion.

This is so tragic!

Take good care,

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In s. ontario, Cda.

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kathyh@... writes:

<< I understand some OCDers have been in therapy for 25

years and still not told their psychiatrists about their OCD symptoms! >>

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Dear Jory,

In a message dated 05/30/2001 10:25:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mindgamzs@... writes:

> Has anyone used the therapy with good results?

I know 1 person who used it successfully w/their leukemic child in the 70s

and have heard about a couple others 2nd hand. Let me know if you'd like any

specific info re: - therapy or practitioners.

Leonard

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in MN,

So glad to hear you have such support in your own home. From your childhood you

should be VERY PROUD of what a wonderful person you've turned out to be in spite

of all your stuggles. I'm proud of you!

Love,

in OK

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In a message dated 5/31/2001 1:20:29 PM Central Daylight Time,

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<< Subj: Re: Therapy

Date: 5/31/2001 1:20:29 PM Central Daylight Time

From: leonardleonard1@...

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Dear Jory,

In a message dated 05/30/2001 10:25:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mindgamzs@... writes:

> Has anyone used the therapy with good results?

I know 1 person who used it successfully w/their leukemic child in the 70s

and have heard about a couple others 2nd hand. Let me know if you'd like any

specific info re: - therapy or practitioners.

Leonard

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LENOARD DO YOU HAVE A WEBSITE? WHAT IS IT?

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My son had OT in elementary school also and the kids got turns going with him

They tried to pick a child that was his friend or one that would benefit from

the therapy too. They played games(therapy). You can pick up small objects in

a game situation. Especially if the SPED teacher creates the game or modifies

it.

Jeannette

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Well said!

I attended Psychiatrists and Psychologists from the age of 12. They couldn't

understand why I was so stressed. They couldn't understand why I was so

lethargic. They couldn't understand why I was so introverted. They never did

understand why I ignored them or any of the other stuff that was going on in

my life. It took 15 years for all of them to find out I had Klinefelters

(the shrinks never gave it any thought). Even though that was up to 30 years

ago, they still have not grasped that many of my problems were Klinefelter

associated.When I sought therapy I knew nothing about Klinefelters. I was at

a stage in my life where I didn't care about anything or anyone. My one and

only focus was how to bring about my death, to escape the pain and the

loneliness that had been my world since around the age of 9 or 10. All those

problems buried deep in my subconscious mind and of course low T!

My therapist helped me to face my demons without the need for pills. Pills

only treat the problem and dull the pain, facing the cause allows you to

move on and not need the pills as your crutch to lean on. And as I've said

in previous posts the pills prescribed by shrinks did nothing for me.

I am a better person today and though I have problems, therapy taught me

that many of my problems are my own creation. Therapy also taught me not to

worry about problems, but to tackle them head-on and resolve them.

What do pills teach you?

Learn to change the things you can, live with the things you can't and have

the wisdom to know the difference.

Steph

----- Original Message -----

From: " Merati "

Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:15 AM

> This whole psych realm is simply a matter of what

> works for you. None of these things are defined to the

> t like a tool-and-die specification. Good

> psychotherapy is forward thinking and results

> oriented. Psychodynamic therapy is not.

> Cognitive-behavioral therapy is.

> Check out " What you can change...and what you can't "

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Lambert wrote:

I finally started therapy yesterday for the first time since 02. It was

an excruciating painful experience to say the least.

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Good Lord, - I cringed after reading your email.

You poor thing.

I pray you feel better soon! :o

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Thanks, for the prayers. I am still not over the pain he caused yesterday, and

have to go back tomorrow. I am really hoping it works, but am not getting my

hopes up too much. This PM has all his patients do an evaluation with therapy

once a year rather it works or not, I am going to be pushing  for more though,

because I know if I can regain some strength I could possibly start feeling

better, as painful as it is.

Re: Therapy

Lambert wrote:

I finally started therapy yesterday for the first time since 02. It was

an excruciating painful experience to say the least.

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Good Lord, - I cringed after reading your email.

You poor thing.

I pray you feel better soon! :o

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Hi All,

I have been a member for a little while now but rarely ever post. I have a

question regarding therapy for my 3 year old diagnosed w/ mild/moderate apraxia

(oral and verbal?), and hypotonia. We started therapy through the state at 18

months 1x a week, this lasted for 1 year. He made some progress, but it wasn't

normal.. he made what they called atypical progress. I started looking on the

internet and came across descriptions of children w/ apraxia and felt that those

descriptions fit my child..he had feeding issues (would only eat oatmeal until

this april!), he was clumsy, couldn't use his tongue, left off begining and

ending consonants of words, we could hear a word once and never again. I read

the Late Talker book and it described my child. Anyway, I had him evaluated by

2 private speech therapists. One from HASA-the Hearing and Speech Association

located in Baltimore, MD and the other a private therepist in Bel Air, MD. Both

came up w/ the diagnosis of apraxia. We have chosen to work w/ the therapist in

Bel Air because of both location and my son seemed to connect w/ her. So,

here's my problem. She does alot of what I call " food therapy " She works w/

gum and chewy foods trying to teach him how to use/move his tongue and purse his

lips. We started working w/ her in April. He has gone from as I said only

eating oatmeal to eating carrot sticks and anything the famlily eats for dinner.

He has increased his vocabulary incredibly and is now using up to 5 word

sentences. There is no doubt that she has helped him. I was informed

yesterday, by a parent w/ a child of 13 who has apraxia that oral motor therapy

does not help a child w/ apraxia. So, now my question...could I have the wrong

diagnosis if this oral motor therapy is helping him? Thanks for any input as I

was feeling good about the path we were on but now I'm not so sure!

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PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING... it is helping your son, and I think that is

great! Others will tell you what kind of therapy worked for them for

speech, but this obviously has helped him with feeding as well as

speech. Does she plan on transitioning to another therapy nowthat this

has been accomplished?

Congrats!

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Hi All,

I have been a member for a little while now but rarely ever

post. I have a question regarding therapy for my 3 year old diagnosed w/

mild/moderate apraxia (oral and verbal?), and hypotonia. We started

therapy through the state at 18 months 1x a week, this lasted for 1

year. He made some progress, but it wasn't normal.. he made what they

called atypical progress. I started looking on the internet and came

across descriptions of children w/ apraxia and felt that those

descriptions fit my child..he had feeding issues (would only eat oatmeal

until this april!), he was clumsy, couldn't use his tongue, left off

begining and ending consonants of words, we could hear a word once and

never again. I read the Late Talker book and it described my child.

Anyway, I had him evaluated by 2 private speech therapists. One from

HASA-the Hearing and Speech Association located in Baltimore, MD and the

other a private therepist in Bel Air, MD. Both came up w/ the diagnosis

of apraxia. We have chosen to work w/ the therapist in Bel Air because

of both location and my son seemed to connect w/ her. So, here's my

problem. She does alot of what I call " food therapy " She works w/ gum

and chewy foods trying to teach him how to use/move his tongue and purse

his lips. We started working w/ her in April. He has gone from as I said

only eating oatmeal to eating carrot sticks and anything the famlily

eats for dinner. He has increased his vocabulary incredibly and is now

using up to 5 word sentences. There is no doubt that she has helped him.

I was informed yesterday, by a parent w/ a child of 13 who has apraxia

that oral motor therapy does not help a child w/ apraxia. So, now my

question...could I have the wrong diagnosis if this oral motor therapy

is helping him? Thanks for any input as I was feeling good about the

path we were on but now I'm not so sure!

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Rosemary wrote:

<< My Dr has me trying therapy for 1 month anyone here had success with PT for

Spinal stenosis.>>

I did PT for for a month and found it exceedingly helpful. But you gotta work

hard to develop the muscles which help straighten your spine. When I am walking

or standing, if I can tilt my pelvis subtly to align my vertebrae, I can relieve

some of my lumbar pain. I'm 63 yrs old. If I'd started crunching and building

up my abs sooner, I'd be in less pain now. Do your PT, work at it hard. It's

subtle, it's nuanced, it requires diligent effort, but it can pay off with good

results.

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no,also epidurals[3]didnt help, the only thing that has kept me from the knife is low level laser and swimming long distances with a snorkel and mask therapy

MY Dr has me trying therapy for 1 month anyone here had success with PT for Spinal stenosis.

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well we had 1 epiduaral so far and next one is Nov 14th so far no luck

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Do you know if both a steroid and lidocaine where used in the injection or just the steroid?If lidocaine was used only to numb the area to give the injection and not in the actual steroid injection, then I would not expect you to have any relief right away.It can take up to weeks for the steroid to have full affect and provide any pain relief.Usually lidocaine is used to numb the area to give the injection and is also mixed with the steroid to provide immediate pain relief, but that immediate pain relief will only last about 6 hours or so and then it is a wait and see about the steroid working.It could be that the area that received the epidural is not where your pain is coming from and a slight adjustment in the location with the next one will be

needed.That does happen many times.Did your doctor use floroscopy while giving you the epidural? That is important to use to be sure that the injection is being placed properly.FranFrom: rosied <rosemary512002@...>Subject: Re: therapySpinal Stenosis Treatment Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 9:10 PM

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I was given somehting in my IV to make me loopy as she said so I never felt

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The lidocaine is part of the injection itself, not in the IV.The IV meds you where given where have a sedation affect on you and are not part of the injection itself.FranFrom: rosied <rosemary512002@...>Subject: Re: therapySpinal Stenosis Treatment Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 2:55 PM

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Rosemary wrote:<< I was given somehting in my IV to make me loopy as she said so

I never felt anyhting but the Dr marking the spot and putting the cold idoine on

my back.>>

My epidural was scheduled for first thing in the morning. The Doc wanted $250

for sedation; I took a couple Xanax and didn't feel either the Doc marking the

spot or putting cold iodine or anything else. All I remember was a voice saying

to roll over -- that and when I came around, spilling the tea they gave me all

over myself and the bed.

The neurologist told me he didn't think too much of the epidural therapy. It

wasn't so much the steriod or the numbing agent they inject next to the spinal

cord, but the media, the stuff that carries it, " the cornstarch " as the

neurologist called it, that remains there and doesn't dissolve away. That's the

problem with epidurals he says.

Meanwhile. the psysiatrist, the guy that does the injections, thinks its a good

therapy for the next five years until the surgery is perfected. " Buy yourself

some time, " he says.

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