Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Where are you in Michigan? From: jtag57 <jmj4life83@...> Subject: [ ] Prompt or Kaufmann Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 11:15 PM  + Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. Thank you kindly. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 + I am in Armada, MI. Thank you, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 PROMPT is a hands on moto-kinesthetic, meaning the SLP touches the child's face in specific ways to cue sounds, words, & phrases. It is very effective. You need a level 2 SLP. Kaufman is an approximation method where the SLP accepts attempts or approximations for sounds. Approximations start with a vowel, then consonant vowel, etc. This is a basic, shortened explanation of each. In my practice, I use them together. Usually the combo works the best. Warmest wishes, Barbara A , M.S.,CCC-SLP President, Help Me Speak, LLC www.helpmespeak.com 2500 Wallington Way Suite 103 Marriottsville, MD 21104 410-442-9791 Ask me about NutriiVeda! On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:15 PM, " jtag57 " <jmj4life83@...> wrote: > + > > Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. > Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? > Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. > Thank you kindly. Jane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Also, you can go to www.AAPPSPA.org To find a private practice SLP. Warmest wishes, Barbara A , M.S.,CCC-SLP President, Help Me Speak, LLC www.helpmespeak.com 2500 Wallington Way Suite 103 Marriottsville, MD 21104 410-442-9791 Ask me about NutriiVeda! On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Barbara <helpmespeak@...> wrote: > PROMPT is a hands on moto-kinesthetic, meaning the SLP touches the child's face in specific ways to cue sounds, words, & phrases. It is very effective. You need a level 2 SLP. > > Kaufman is an approximation method where the SLP accepts attempts or approximations for sounds. Approximations start with a vowel, then consonant vowel, etc. > > This is a basic, shortened explanation of each. In my practice, I use them together. Usually the combo works the best. > > Warmest wishes, > Barbara A , M.S.,CCC-SLP > President, > Help Me Speak, LLC > www.helpmespeak.com > 2500 Wallington Way > Suite 103 > Marriottsville, MD 21104 > 410-442-9791 > > Ask me about NutriiVeda! > > On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:15 PM, " jtag57 " <jmj4life83@...> wrote: > > > + > > > > Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. > > Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? > > Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. > > Thank you kindly. Jane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Kaufman and Prompt are methods used by SLP's. It isnt necessary to go see Kaufman to get therapy! She does workshops, I doubt she does individual therapy anymore? I live in NY and would not travel to see her. My 9yo was barely saying 10 words out loud when she started K, where her school SLP uses Kaufman and Prompt, she is the reason my daughter is speaking, because she is trained in Kaufman. i've never felt the need to see her in person. Kaufman is doing a workshop 30 minutes from me on Nov 14, but for $130 I doubt I'm going to that either. How old is your child? According to Kaufman website, an Eval by her is $800? Never going to happen in my lifetime, even if I lived 20 minutes from whereever she is. Maureen > > > + > > > > Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. > > Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? > > Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. > > Thank you kindly. Jane > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 +My son is 5 1/2. How long did your 9 yr. old take to start speaking? $800...that won't happen. I have a email into PROMPT for a referral. Thanks for you help. Jane > > > > > + > > > > > > Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. > > > Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? > > > Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. > > > Thank you kindly. Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 She was mostly signing after the age of 1yo. Something happened after she turned 5yo. I dont know if it was her level of maturity, combined with the SLP at school who used Kaufman, Prompt, Oral motor...anything she needed to..but it came pretty quick that school year, but in slow waves. She started with a couple two-word combinations and I guess it just kept coming from there. She continued to use her sign until she had the words and dropped all signing when the words came. She will revert to it now, only if she sees I still dont understand her, she's a very smart cookie! Dont get me wrong, I'd love to see Kaufmans workshop in November. The $130 price is the Parent price. Its higher for SLP's and teachers who are earning credit. The $800 she charges for Eval' " at home " are for a 4 day Evaluation. I might still try to go, I'm in touch with my daughters EI SLP and hoping she might be interested in going. Maureen > > +My son is 5 1/2. How long did your 9 yr. old take to start speaking? $800...that won't happen. I have a email into PROMPT for a referral. Thanks for you help. Jane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 The 2 methods are very different. PROMPT is a therapist using their hands to manipulate a child's mouth in order to make sounds. For example, say oo or boo. Your lips are rounded. The therapist would put the child's lips into that position to make that sound. I think of Kaufman as a 'learning ladder', teaching word approximations to get a little harder (and more accurate) as time goes on, to teach a child the words. For example, use " bottle " . A child will start with " ba " and then " ba-ba " . After that, you might teach them " ba-doh " , then " bottle " . (If you google " Kaufman cards " you'll see a few examples of the words). I think they are both extremely effective, but it depends on your child's needs. At age 2, my son could only make a few sounds (da and ma). Every sound had to be made with the therapist manipulating his mouth. If he couldn't say " ba " or " doh " , it would be useless to try Kaufman. After teaching him how to say basic sounds, they were able to use both PROMPT and Kaufman together and he was much more intelligible. Now, he knows how to make most sounds. It's rare that he needs PROMPT (usually only when learning new sounds), but Kaufman is very effective. A combination works best, and obviously a child's needs change over time. But keep in mind that many therapists out there can use one or both methods. I was fortunate enough to work with people that knew both. You don't necessarily need to go to the Kaufman center to find someone who uses the method. Good luck!! > > > > > + > > > > > > Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. > > > Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? > > > Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. > > > Thank you kindly. Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I am an SLP who is well trained in both methods-Kaufman & PROMPT- & many more. I have 20yrs of clinical experience. As I mentioned in my earlier post (see below), any SLP who is trained in both techniques should be able to use them as needed. The technique needs to fit the child, not the other way. Also, it's important to combine with structured oral placement/Talk Tools ex. So find an SLP who is trained in all 3. (at least) Kaufman's technique is really just taking what SLPs do anyway (accept developmental easier approximations or parts of words) & pairing with cards & specific cards. However, the cards aren't needed to use the same technique. Given ANY word, an approximation or part of the word can be taught. Usually, the main vowel is the easiest. Ex, " Halloween " , 1st, 'a-o', then 'a-o-ee', 'ha-o-ee', etc. Or " bubble " , 'uh', then 'buh' or 'uhb', then 'bubbuh', etc. I don't use cards as often anymore b/c I find that many kids can't say /n/, which is in many of her words, so I don't use them. I use my own. PROMPT is very helpful b/c I am showing a child, on his/her mouth/face exactly how to move their muscles for sounds & words. Warmest wishes, Barbara A , M.S.,CCC-SLP President, Help Me Speak, LLC www.helpmespeak.com 2500 Wallington Way Suite 103 Marriottsville, MD 21104 410-442-9791 Ask me about NutriiVeda! On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Barbara <helpmespeak@...> wrote: > PROMPT is a hands on moto-kinesthetic, meaning the SLP touches the child's face in specific ways to cue sounds, words, & phrases. It is very effective. You need a level 2 SLP. > > Kaufman is an approximation method where the SLP accepts attempts or approximations for sounds. Approximations start with a vowel, then consonant vowel, etc. > > This is a basic, shortened explanation of each. In my practice, I use them together. Usually the combo works the best. > > Warmest wishes, > Barbara A , M.S.,CCC-SLP > President, > Help Me Speak, LLC > www.helpmespeak.com > 2500 Wallington Way > Suite 103 > Marriottsville, MD 21104 > 410-442-9791 > > Ask me about NutriiVeda! > > On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:15 PM, " jtag57 " <jmj4life83@...> wrote: > > > + > > > > Can anyone please tell me if there is a big difference between these 2 methods? The Kaufmann Center is an hour away, which I am grateful to not have to travel as some of you perhaps had to when you went to see Kaufmann. But I was sure hoping not to have to travel an hour to get my son to therapy. > > Also, anyone know of a SLP that is certified in Prompt that practices in Michigan? > > Please share your opinions between these 2 methods. > > Thank you kindly. Jane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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