Canker Sores

[Guest guest]

I suffered with horrible canker sores and thrush in my mouth for about 2

years...Once I was able to come off of Steroids, the canker sores and thrush

went away...are you taking steroids????

[Guest guest]

Hi Kyla - a folic acid supplement might help.

Barbara

At 13:46 12-05-1999 -0400, you wrote:

>From: " M. Kyla MacKenzie " <celticfox@...>

> My tongue always has a whitish look to it

>and at times it feels like my tongue is sore and swollen. Isn't

>that odd?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kyla,

I also have been prone to canker sores. When I start to get them, they seem

like they spread, one starts to go away and another one starts. This is what

helps me:

This clears them up completely and quickly like a day or two unbelievable:

1. Ask either your Dentist or Doctor for a prescription for " Ann Arbor

Mouthwash " they have to make this up. It is a antiobiotic with some

benadyrl and I'm not sure what else. I have a prescription for it for the

whole year. This stuff is a god sent.

2. As a precautionary or if you fill one coming on: I take folic acid

(actually prescription 1gram a day. If you check into this (my doctor told

me this and gave me a prescription for it) you will find it is recommended in

vitamin books for canker sores.

3. If you like yogurt, and this sounds gross, but swish it or kinda just let

it lay on the canker sore a bit while your eating it.

4. If for some reason you can't get the prescription which I hope you can:

try swishing Benadrl liquid in your mouth and spitting out. This drys them up

This information is from a pharmacist that I know. But the best is the

mouthwash,

Also try to keep the bacteria down by using a Peroxcel mouthwash I think

colgate makes one. It is peroxide and a minty mouthwash together or make

your own.

Try to keep up the good bacteria so that you can maintain a good normal flora

in your mouth. Some medications can cause them like the antibiotics or

methotrexate. Good Luck and let me know if it works for you Im sure it

will. Diane

[Guest guest]

Just an FYI and probably those concerned know this,

but... repeated canker sores are indicative of herpes.

I'm not diagnosing anything here, just to say that I

have the same experience as others wrote. I was very

sick with high fever and _many_ sores, even inside my

mouth and on my tongue, when I was about 11 years old.

It was _awful._ I was diagnosed with herpes simplex II

(above the waist). This is not a moral issue (what

could I have possibly done at 11 to catch it?). It is

related to genital herpes and can be passed onto that

area of the body without careful attention to self

hygiene. When active, it is HIGHLY infectious &

contagious. I separate eating utensils, etc. and don't

kiss _anyone_ until the sores are completely healed.

It's a nasty thing and I wouldn't want to give it to

anyone. And yes, Lycine helps tremendously but the

early timing (at first tingle) is key.

peace,

trustinit

Message: 2

Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:14:24 -0000

From: " joesmad2001 " <fernaj@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Lysine, Arginine & bone growth

I too have had many outbreaks of oral canker

sores since my

childhood (currently 39 yo), usually one after another

for several

weeks. A real drag. . About 10 years ago I found

taking lysine just

as they emerged reduced the severity and limited the

number of

additional sores forming while the current ones heal.

Since being on the CRON diet I have had maybe

2 mild cases in

the past year, ALOT less than I usually get. Not sure

if it is CRON

related, but if it is it's another BIG advantage.

Joe

At 02:33 AM 6/12/02 +0000, you wrote:

--- In @y..., " Greg "

<gowatson@a...>

wrote:

> Studies in animals have shown that dietary

supplements with certain

amino acids, particularly L-lysine, can increase Ca

> absorption.

>

Interesting. My teenage son must take 1 gram or more

of extra lysine

a day, even though his diet is relatively rich in it -

or he gets

canker sores in his mouth. I used to get them as a

child and teenager

as well. I understand that lysine and arginine must

be balanced. So

many complexities to really getting ON!

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/13/2002 12:23:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, trustinit@... writes:

Just an FYI and probably those concerned know this,

but... repeated canker sores are indicative of herpes.

I'm not diagnosing anything here, just to say that I

have the same experience as others wrote. I was very

sick with high fever and _many_ sores, even inside my

mouth and on my tongue, when I was about 11 years old.

It was _awful._ I was diagnosed with herpes simplex II

(above the waist). This is not a moral issue (what

could I have possibly done at 11 to catch it?). It is

related to genital herpes and can be passed onto that

area of the body without careful attention to self

hygiene. When active, it is HIGHLY infectious

Canker sores are often confused with cold sores by lay people and the popular health publications but they are totally different.

Canker sores are a type of mouth ulcer. The cause is not known although it is believed by many that canker sores are an auto-immune condition. Most people who suffer from them develop some knowledge about different foods that increase the number of canker sores for them. Canker sores are not contagious and there is no evidence that they are. There is no effective treatment for canker sores beyond trying different oral steroids and a new drug called apthasol. Most of the over the counter medications are worthless but might offer some temporary anesthetic value to get you through a meal or something.

Cold sores are caused by the herpes simplex virus and can be contagious. There are various topical medications, and lysine etc that may offer some limited relief with experimentation. The virus however remains within you looking for another opportunity.

Winter

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I don't have them very often, so I don't know the cause of chronic ones. I

tend to get them if I bite the inside of my mouth sometimes. Lysine does

really make a soothing difference though.

Martha

[Guest guest]

Hi. I get canker sores right before I start my period. Years ago, I discovered a

way to control them. As soon as I " feel " one coming, I eat about 5 tums w/

calcium, and the next day, they are all gone. Plus, I get the extra dose of

calcium. It has really worked great for me. I haven't had any major volcanoes in

my mouth for years.

~Rainy

jjuddyy <jjuddyy@...> wrote:

Hi All

I have recently gone back on Methrotrexate after an 8 year break. As a

result I am currently plagued with canker sores on the walls of my

mouth and on my tongue. I am taking folic acid and llyscine for them,

but they really never go away. I have stopped taking Methro to give

mouth a brake. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I don't take the medications you do, but I get canker sores alot for some

reason. I use something my Grandma used to use. Its called " Alum " you can

find it in the spice isle at the grocery store. I have no idea what you

could possibly use this gross tasting stuff for to cook, its very bitter!

You just put a little on the sores and you'll be spitting it out alot, but

reapply a few times. Mine are usually cleared up in a couple days.

-- Re: [ ] canker sores

Hi. I get canker sores right before I start my period. Years ago, I

discovered a way to control them. As soon as I " feel " one coming, I eat

about 5 tums w/ calcium, and the next day, they are all gone. Plus, I get

the extra dose of calcium. It has really worked great for me. I haven't had

any major volcanoes in my mouth for years.

~Rainy

jjuddyy <jjuddyy@...> wrote:

Hi All

I have recently gone back on Methrotrexate after an 8 year break. As a

result I am currently plagued with canker sores on the walls of my

mouth and on my tongue. I am taking folic acid and llyscine for them,

but they really never go away. I have stopped taking Methro to give

mouth a brake. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Has anyone noticed an increase of canker sores (in their mouth) after starting LDN? My son, who is autistic, has been on LDN for two months. The canker sores started one month ago, he has had up to ten of them at one time- now down up to three, which are still very painful. He started at 3mg (he's 12 yrs old), I've taken him down to 1.5. Should I work his dose back up? I've also tried Lysine and olive leaf for the cankers, they haven't worked at all.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:51:24 AM Central Standard Time, rmcv123@... writes:

Has anyone noticed an increase of canker sores (in their mouth) after starting LDN? My son, who is autistic, has been on LDN for two months. The canker sores started one month ago, he has had up to ten of them at one time- now down up to three, which are still very painful. He started at 3mg (he's 12 yrs old), I've taken him down to 1.5. Should I work his dose back up? I've also tried Lysine and olive leaf for the cankers, they haven't worked at all.

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Wonder if it's some type of viral infection?

Marcie

[Guest guest]

Hi

Canker sores can be a symptom of salicylate or other food intolerance. Does your son eat lots of fruit and vegetables? Does he react badly to aspirin? Might have nothing to do with LDN.

This might help http://www.cs.nsw.gov.au/rpa/allergy/resources/foodintol/ffintro.cfm

Hope you find out what is happening soon.

in Oz