Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Anyone know what is up with these weird symbols that get inserted in some of the e-mail messages on this list? --seems to happen to some, not all --is it a code of some sort? ..� --this is what it looks like this time and it is very frustrating to see it----almost looks like a code that has been inserted somehow--any guesses? We should know--nothing should just happen like this and be left unanswered because it could end up being a code that can harm the archives , our computers etc. Elena From: Elena Danaila <edanaila@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: food sensitivities and apraxia -- question about fish oil Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 11:53 PM Fish Oil should NOT cause loose stool in normal children, certainly not on an ongoing basis.� Nothing really should unless something is not tolerated by the body, but it is rarely fish oil--almost unheard of. All those with ongoing loose stools develop--- leaky gut--not typically acknowledged by mainstream doctors, not even gastroenterologists who do not look at the effects of a leaky gut on the immune system, the neurological and endocrine systems, they typically just focus on the digestive system alone as if these organs existed in a vacuum.� So the leaky gut does not always have obvious digestive symptoms--we just had gas and very mild cramping, but those with persistent loose stools and cramping by definition will develop dysbiosis--a leakyuy gut. The lining needs a long time to heal and in the meantime each offending substance can make it worse--it becomes a vicious cycle of irritation and intestinal inflammation as more and more things begin to burden that digestive system when it is chronically irritated to begin with and the offending substances are continuing to be ingested. Doctors who ignore this or try to say it is normal for some to be this way, are doing their patients a great disservice and are poor doctors to begin with. So for a child who has always had loose stools-- certain foods� and /or other offending substances ingested --chemicals preservatives, pesticides etc are always implicated, and malabsorptions are a given, and it is NOT a normal way of being because he seems to e of normal weight etc.� Read the Gluten Effect by Drs. Rick and Vicky and it will explain� a lot of the myths about food intolerances and why they are so pervasive yet remain undiagnosed with severe consequences for years on end.� Look at your families--any autoimmune issues?--skin eczemas, asthma, early onset diabetes, arthritis, Lupus, neurological disorders of unknown etiology?--menaing not hit in the head --no external trauma--but chemical traumas can be just as severe and remain undiagnosed, Foods to which the body is intolerant --particularly gluten� and casein peptides can have a profound effect on the brain, on all organs but these peptides have a particular affinity for brain tissue.� it is hard to do it yourself as there can be other intolernaces--most often secondary, but they affect the body nevertheless when triggered--when the leaky gut is present and so just by eliminating suspected foods, particularly if hidden sources are present will not result in any symptoms improving.� Furthermore, it can take up to a year for gluten peptides to leave the body and for the cells to begin to heal, so just a month or two of most often improper gluten free diet may not show any results.� This doesn't mean everyone is intolerant to gluten or other foods, but many of those with neurological disorders--if not all--are intolerant to some fods and the most common are gluten/casein, corn, soy and a few others.� My daughter had become intolerant to just about everything she was eating during that period as the leaky gut enabled larger particles of food to enter the blood stream and her immune system was reacting to them all by now.� So you need to avoid the main culprits and heal the gut--probiotics, test for parasites--also very often present in those with food intolerances as is candida and other opportunistic bacteria infections, viruses.� They all favor a weak immune system and a leaky gut. We had all of these, and never even had loose stools. �Loose stools that do not go aeway are indicative of chronic degenerative digestive problems. the average gluten intolernat person is diagnosed after 10-13 years of sufering and they do not all develop symptoms early on, nor are they all Celiacs.� Gluten intolerance is so hard to diagnose becuase many suferers do NOT have digestive symptoms per se, or not continuously. My husband is like that and has been since childhood. he's not a Celiac, but he has the same skin problems as my daughter, gets irritable, had ADD as a child, albeit not diagnosed as at the time the kids just got kicked out of the classroom a lot and sent to the principal's office.� Even now as a successful researcher he still has to self regulate to better pay attention sometimes--he'll shake his foot, or he has always claimed he thinks better if he has a beer--which of course he can't have any more now except Red Ridge gluten free, but the point is he still has some ADD problems and the alcohol depresses certain parts of his brain so he really can pay attention better. Anyway, read, I nform yourselves. if your child improves on fish oil, or even if he doesn't� but if there is neurological problems and hints of autoimmune problems in the family chances are some dietary changes are in order and the main culprits are gluten, casein, corn, soy, eggs, nuts of various kinds etc etc� You need to do a well planned out elimination diet. Tests are a clue but not conclusive. They weren't in our case, the elimination diet and reintroduction of offending foods was and then we realized that given her nutrient deficiency profile --fatty acid malabsorptions, B12 deficiencies, CoQ10, foalte, D, E iron deficiencies etc etc... There's a lot to talk about on this topic and there are apraxia lists that address biomedical interventions for those who want to learn more.� It's not a quick fix, but then our bodies and brain function are very complex, we're all different and it is always an interaction between genetic make-up and environmental triggers--toxins, viruses, bacteria, parasites (I'm talking microscopic ones and between the 3 of us in 3 years we've had 5 of them--still battling the last one as they are hard to identify and to treat, but well worth the trouble--Biohealth Diagnostics has the best test and always do a comprehensive or you can miss any new ones--again our case when we tested to see if we got read of the last one.� We learned we did, fortunately, but unfortunately my daughter and I had picked up yet a new one so always test with full 4 day test and around the full moon when most have their reproductive cycle regardless of length.) . So all of these are pretty much always present in us, the immune system keeps them at bay, and when the immune system is battling toxins and or other major infections in our bodies that produce oxidative stress and weaken our various functions and systems.�� The microbiology research is all there, same with the neuroscience. Clinical practice unfortunately is decades behind and don't expect that to change given the way the healthcare system is run and the influence the pharamceutical industry has on medical curricula--even the Harvard Students and some of their professors were protesting against this.� Doctors are nowadays little more than medicine dispensers, and they can't really change that, not without additional training and ability to spend more than the 10 minutes to examine their patients.� Individual protocols designed for patient's specific needs as well as biomedical interventions in general take different training (which mainstream doctors do not want to get after all the years they've already spent training for their profession, more time, more money and no one really wants to change things but biomedicine is the key to better health for everyone and the future of medicine--it will just take a very long time for all involved to clean up their act and figure out how to capitalize on a new treatment method where it is not a one size fits all and billions of dollars in profit from one " miracle drug'� �Best of health to everyone! 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