Re: my doc's concern with Nutriveda

[Guest guest]

I understand what your doc is saying in that the nutriiveda is a " one size fits

all and ayurveda isn't " and that's one of the first basics I read about ayurveda

....but perhaps what your doc doesn't know (Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon educate

traditional and alternative medical doctors on ayurveda

http://www.chopra.com/ayurveda ) is that the nutriiveda's primary purpose is to

get rid of ama (toxins) and nourish the body as according to the doctors from

the Chopra Center most of us in the West, even if overweight, are undernourished

and full of ama. Here's info on ama for people that don't know what ama is.

http://www.chopra.com/panchakarma

I mean think about it -all the processed and genetically altered and fast foods.

A world here where drive through taco bell diets are written up as a " for real "

diet in the New York Times where you have to stop and say " is this a joke " (no

for real) Where the soil is overused and full of " ama " itself.

What nutrients are we missing daily even when we try to eat healthy and organic?

Why do we feel the need to overload our body with this vitamin or that with

little of no change when perhaps what we need isn't more of one thing but a

particular " balance " of nutrients. To me that is what nutriiveda is. Simple

nutrition.

Poor nutriiveda -like the fish oils so over analyzed and healthy while we think

nothing of adding NesQuick to the nutriiveda (may want to read this funny

observation

http://thedelicioustruth.blogspot.com/2009/04/nesquik-chocolate-syrup-ingredient\

s.html ) I've shared nutriiveda with so many experts that I'm both friends with

and found online that I have no doubt about how incredible the product is (and

that's even the Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon formulation and endorsement aside)

But as far as the " concern "

We don't know what aspect of the product is working. In fact we don't for sure

know if it's the ayurvedic synergistic blend or the essential amino acids or

what compound or blend of compounds that are working. I suspect it does have to

do with a mixture. Me and many of my friends- anyone healthy for that matter

-have been on protein powders for breakfast for years -nutriiveda blows them all

away. I don't know what's different in it -but it's almost magical the impact

it's had on my family and so many others I know now.

Based on what I've seen the product itself is not contraindicated in ingredients

and if it is -then we all should have used contraindicated products long ago!!!

Drats those uncontraindicated products! Seriously I have suggested to parents

and professionals who are on a truckload of other supplements to perhaps take a

break for a week (outside of fish oils or say things that are medical necessary

for those diagnosed with carnitine deficiency for example) and just 'try' the

nutriiveda as many of us see results within the first few days.

My husband and I both just spoke to professionals at Tanner's school today who

are still amazed with the many positive differences in Tanner academically and

otherwise. The one professional pointed out " he just looks happier every time I

see him now too " And I pointed out " that's because he now has facial

expressions. " That's HUGE! And of course all of a sudden the constant reading-

he just arranged a homework get together with 2 other friend tomorrow (no not

kidding -he called everyone up)

Here's some info on just some of the more well known docs behind the product

(some of the others are also well known ayurvedic medical doctors)

DEEPAK CHOPRA, M.D.

Co-founder of the Chopra Center for Wellbeing

Deepak Chopra is a world-renowned authority in the field of mind-body healing, a

best-selling author, and the founder of the Chopra Center for Wellbeing.

Heralded by Time Magazine as the " poet-prophet of alternative medicine, " he is

also the host of the popular weekly Wellness Radio program on Sirius/XM Stars.

A global force in the field of human empowerment, Dr. Chopra is the prolific

author of more than fifty-five books, including fourteen bestsellers on

mind-body health, quantum mechanics, spirituality, and peace. Dr. Chopra's books

have been published in more than eighty-five languages. His New York Times

bestseller Peace Is the Way won a prestigious Quill Award, and The Book of

Secrets was awarded the grand prize at the 2005 Nautilus Book Awards; his

bestselling novel, Jesus: A Story of Enlightenment, was released in 2008. He is

a columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle and Washington Post On Faith and

contributes regularly to Intent.com and the Huffington Post.

Deepak Chopra's popularity as an international presenter and keynote speaker is

exemplified by an impressive list of honorariums. For more than a decade, he has

participated as a lecturer at the Update in Internal Medicine event sponsored by

Harvard Medical School's Department of Continuing Education and the Department

of Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. Dr. Chopra is a fellow of the

American College of Physicians, a member of the American Association of Clinical

Endocrinologists, an adjunct professor at Kellogg School of Management, and a

senior scientist with the Gallup Organization.

Before establishing the Chopra Center, he served as chief of staff at Boston

Regional Medical Center. He received his medical degree from the All India

Institute of Medical Sciences and did his internship at Muhlenberg Hospital in

Plainfield, New Jersey. He then completed various residencies and fellowships at

university-affiliated medical centers in Boston.

DAVID SIMON, M.D.

CEO, Medical Director, and Co-founder of the Chopra Center

Simon is a world-renowned authority in the field of mind-body medicine. As

a practicing physician, innovative researcher, and insightful teacher,

continues to expand his vision for an effective and compassionate healthcare

system. More than three decades ago as an anthropology student exploring

humanity's earliest communities and cultures, he was drawn to the understanding

that the role of the doctor was much more than a disease technician; a true

healer had to be a diagnostician, medicine man, psychotherapist, and priest

& #8213; an expert navigator of the mind and spirit as well as the physical body.

Integrating ancient wisdom healing traditions with modern scientific principles,

has forged a model of health that integrates the multiple dimensions of a

human being & #8213; environmental, physical, emotional, psychological, and

spiritual. As a board-certified neurologist and expert in ayurvedic medicine and

other traditional healing arts, he brings a unique perspective to the

relationship between mind, emotions, and health.

Development of the Chopra Center In 1996 co-founded and assumed the role

of medical director of the Chopra Center for Wellbeing, where he continues to

serve as the driving force in developing and leading the Center's flagship

programs and seminars in mind-body medicine, emotional healing, and

spirituality.

http://www.chopra.com/aboutdavid

I have more of the doctors up at http://www.pursuitofresearch.org under Zrii

product/nutriiveda

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[Guest guest]

You doctor is right about Ayurveda medicine that it would depend on the

" dosha type " to address a specific disease. He may not

understand what the nutriiveda is as an ayurvedic product however. If

one's body is undernourished or full of " ama " [toxins] it would

not be ready to accept the healing stage which could be from the body

alone, or combined as a second step with ayurvedic medicine and/or

Western medicine. The nutriiveda is a most important base coat that

combines ayurveda and modern clinical science to address the prevalence

in our world of malnourishment and toxins. To nourish and detox the

body is an important first step for any of the doshas for most effective

healing and health as those knowledgeable in medicine would be aware.

The nutriiveda supports and strengthens the metabolic functioning and

the fact, I and others are seeing positive changes in our children after

providing them with nutriiveda strongly points to the metabolic aspect

being the most probable root of the problem. As many of us in this

group are already aware this is not a new concept and has been either

confirmed or a suspicion for already. Nutriiveda has a unique and

specific combination of ayurvedic botanicals which has been blended in a

combination with all the essential amino acids, isolate protein, all the

important vitamins and minerals to make it the most effective by the

metabolic system. The synergistic blend of the ayurvedic botanicals are

much more powerful than taking any one of the ingredients alone, however

the ayurvedic botanicals can be delicate. There are special ways of

combining the ayurvedic botanicals to make sure the botanical's

healthful properties and effectiveness are not lost and are accentuated.

Expert combinations like the nutriiveda include botanicals that increase

assimilation and effective potency of the other ingredients. Good

formulas address all co-factors to a health goal for much greater

effectiveness. So my feeling again is since this was being formed for

weight management, to support the metabolic functioning " for

anyone " and all factors were considered, so a safe and nutrient

dense formulation was formed in a manner that it would help all the

doshas.

I do not believe the nutriiveda was meant to address autism, ADHD,

apraxia, TBI, global delays and everything else it's reported to be

helping. Again it must be if it's helping then the basis of the problem

lie in the metabolic system. I am sure that the doctors behind the

formulation are surprised themselves from the anecdotal feedback from

this group about nutriiveda helping so many of the children of all ages

including taking it!!!

For those that want to explore more into ayurvedic medicine to help

address say heart or liver disease as a next step which is what your

doctor is speaking of, here is more information:

A person's chances of developing certain types of diseases are thought

to be related to the way doshas are balanced, the state of the physical

body, and mental or lifestyle factors.

Ayurvedic medicine holds the following beliefs about the three doshas:

· Each dosha is made up of two of five basic elements: ether (the

upper regions of space), air, fire, water, and earth.

· Each dosha has a particular relationship to bodily functions and

can be upset for different reasons.

· Each person has a unique combination of the three doshas, although

one dosha is usually prominent. Doshas are constantly being formed and

reformed by food, activity, and bodily processes.

· Each dosha has its own physical and psychological characteristics.

· An imbalance of a dosha will produce symptoms that are unique to

that dosha. Imbalances may be caused by a person's age, unhealthy

lifestyle, or diet; too much or too little mental and physical exertion;

the seasons; or inadequate protection from the weather, chemicals, or

germs.

sowmya

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> My family doc is a doc who practices both traditional western medicine

and complementary medicine, specifically the teachings and methodologies

of Dr. Weil. I brought him the info on Nutriveda yesterday and

asked his opinion. His concern is that he feels

> Ayurvedic medicine is not a " one size fits all " kind of thing and it

really depends on your dosha-type... meaning that some of the

ingredients could be contraindicated. I have sent the info to my kids'

pediatrician (who works with our family doc) and to their neurologist.

In addition, I have just put several books on Ayurvedic medicine on hold

at our library. I want to know more before trying the product. I am

really interested in the positive things going on with some of our

kids... but what works for one, doesn't always work for another. Fish

oil (Pro-EFA) has done nothing for my kiddos, but we still take it

because it is a good thing! Just didn't provide the speaking results we

were hoping for! We have a bunch of diagnostics scheduled this coming

week... looking into absorbption issues as a root cause (fecal matter

has never formed on either kiddo)

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