NutriiVEda Progress - or lack there of

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Alyssa -

My daughter has been on it since january 8th, and I also have not seem much of a

change in her.  When we first started her I ended up having ot put her on

Antibiotics so I'm not sure if that messed things up - as I saw an earlier post

from  that that could have some kind of impact (decrease any good changes). 

I will say that 2 weeks ago my daughter started having HORRIBLE behavior issues

in school and private therapy, and last week - she was 100% better... Very few

incidents at school, and her private therapists said things were much better.

But again, I don't know if it's b/c the ear infection we were treating was gone

and she was no long uncomfortable or if b/c the NutriiVeda was running it's

course and has finally settled her back down?  I have no clue.  I have changed

how I give it to her and she now gets a scoop in the morning and one at night -

so not sure if that made a difference.  Needless to say I'm not seeing HUGE

changes

like Mel and Tanner are having - but I'm not giving up.  Over the weekend I

thought she may have finally found her tongue and was curious as to what this

wet thing inside her mouth was!  She was playing with her tongue all weekend

(hands in her mouth, sticking it out, etc.) which she had never done.  Granted

it created a huge amount more of drool, but it's ok... Our nanny also said she

was starting to make new sounds (She is still non verbal as in - she wants to

talk but most of the things that come out are mama, dada, baba)... She also

attempts Big Bird with a " Bi Ba " , and is A LITTLE more effectionate with

my husband (of which she usually pushes away when he wants a hug).  But no HUGE

surges.. I guess part of my problem is I am looking for her to talk - and until

she does, i won't really notice a lot of het smaller things... But again, i'm

not giving up on this product.... It's good for her even if it doesn't work -

it's giving her nutrients

taht she most liekly was not receiving prior to taking it!

I am also using it to try and lose weight, and I also have not seen much

progress, but same for me - NOT GIVING UP... I was hoping to see a quick 5 pound

loss - but NOPE... I dropped a pound from Mon - Sat.  Shake for bkfst, lunch

with 2 snacks during hte day and then dinner... By the time I eat dinner I'm

STARVING (we dont' eat until 8pm after kids go down)... I am driking lots of

water (try and do 3 bottles at work, plus 0 calorie tea) limiting myself to 1

Diet Coke a day... Again - not giving up, cuz it can't hurt me and can only be

good for me!

Anyone else also seeing hte same lack of changes in their child?

J

  Cristal

gtzellner@...

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Hi ladies,

 

I just started this previous Friday, today is day 4 for me and I'M STARVING! 

Someone did post that they were initally  hungry and then that went away.  My

son started yesterday, today is day 2 for him. I have not noticed anything, BUT

I think it's suppose to take about a week or so.

 

I'll keep you posted.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

 

Hildy

From: Cristal <gtzellner@...>

Subject: [ ] NutriiVEda Progress - or lack there of

Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 9:40 AM

 

Alyssa -

My daughter has been on it since january 8th, and I also have not seem much of a

change in her.  When we first started her I ended up having ot put her on

Antibiotics so I'm not sure if that messed things up - as I saw an earlier post

from  that that could have some kind of impact (decrease any good

changes).  I will say that 2 weeks ago my daughter started having HORRIBLE

behavior issues in school and private therapy, and last week - she was 100%

better... Very few incidents at school, and her private therapists said

things were much better. But again, I don't know if it's b/c the ear infection

we were treating was gone and she was no long uncomfortable or if b/c the

NutriiVeda was running it's course and has finally settled her back down?  I

have no clue.  I have changed how I give it to her and she now gets a scoop in

the morning and one at night - so not sure if that made a difference.  Needless

to say I'm not seeing HUGE changes

like Mel and Tanner are having - but I'm not giving up.  Over the weekend I

thought she may have finally found her tongue and was curious as to what this

wet thing inside her mouth was!  She was playing with her tongue all weekend

(hands in her mouth, sticking it out, etc.) which she had never done.  Granted

it created a huge amount more of drool, but it's ok... Our nanny also said she

was starting to make new sounds (She is still non verbal as in - she wants to

talk but most of the things that come out are mama, dada, baba)... She also

attempts Big Bird with a " Bi Ba " , and is A LITTLE more effectionate with

my husband (of which she usually pushes away when he wants a hug).  But no

HUGE surges.. I guess part of my problem is I am looking for her to talk - and

until she does, i won't really notice a lot of het smaller things... But again,

i'm not giving up on this product.... It's good for her even if it doesn't work

- it's giving her nutrients

taht she most liekly was not receiving prior to taking it!

I am also using it to try and lose weight, and I also have not seen much

progress, but same for me - NOT GIVING UP... I was hoping to see a quick 5 pound

loss - but NOPE... I dropped a pound from Mon - Sat.  Shake for bkfst, lunch

with 2 snacks during hte day and then dinner... By the time I eat dinner I'm

STARVING (we dont' eat until 8pm after kids go down)... I am driking lots of

water (try and do 3 bottles at work, plus 0 calorie tea) limiting myself to 1

Diet Coke a day... Again - not giving up, cuz it can't hurt me and can only be

good for me!

Anyone else also seeing hte same lack of changes in their child?

J

  Cristal

gtzellner (DOT) com

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Hey -the good news is that at least you are seeing something -increase in

babble, affection, mouth exploration -not bad.

What is the age of your child, how long have you been using it and what dosage

do you have your child on? I know Gretchen's ped said only one scoop for a 4

year old but I do hope that he is aware that the dosages on the label are per 2

scoops and that most would find it fine to have a 4 year old on 2 scoops a day.

Here are the dosages

Birth to three - one scoop a day (can be split into half scoop twice a day)

Four to Eight -two scoops a day (can be split into 1 scoop twice a day)

Nine and up to adult -can take up to four scoops a day -recommended to split 2

scoops 2x a day.

The reason I share this is because and Tanner are both on 4 scoops a day

and BOTH of them regress if we lower the dosage to 2 scoops a day. Why? We

don't know -but clearly whatever effect appears to be dosage dependent. Sowmya

for example noticed little in her son on a scoop (which he's able to take 2) but

when she raised him to 2 scoops this is when she first thought he got hyper but

at the same time started making all the noises and babble...but it drove her

crazy so she took him off. And he regressed. She put him back on a scoop and a

half and of course as you've read she now views the " hyper " as her son who is

also autistic is suddenly more aware of his surroundings and the babble came

back. The teacher reported he is more " focused " That's HUGE!

And what you are reporting is very typical of what we hear in the first few days

of fish oils. Mouth exploration -increase in babble...and then soon after we

hear about the surge. Again it's strange how the two seem to be so similar.

Yes I do understand how it would be frustrating to read amazing reports about

instant surges in some of the children -but as I always said with the fish oil

the worst side effect would be no side effect at all. To me the fact that you

are noticing the changes you are means something is happening in a good way. An

increase in mouth exploration is a great thing as it's an important stage she

probably never went through fully. I can post an archive on this if you want.

As far as for you -I'd read the program

https://zriibucket.s3.amazonaws.com/v1/flash/2/docs/NutriiVeda.pdf and make sure

if you want to lose weight that 'you' are using it twice a day which means 4

scoops a day. Again I never read it when I started neither did my friends and

neighbors =nor followed it for Tanner -and all of us lost the weight we wanted

in about a month or two. Yes you may lose weight using it once a day but that's

for maintenance and health. You need to make sure you drink enough water

especially the first week, eat 3 meals a day and 2 healthy snacks a day (if you

are not eating for hours your body thinks it's starving and metabolism slows

down) -so you are pretty much wanting to eat a bit all day -grazing I call it -2

snacks PLUS 3 meals - either replacing one or two meals with the nutriiveda (and

again you don't have to replace meals you can eat food with it -this morning

Dakota had 2 slices of french toast and his vanilla shake...but you won't eat as

much food even if you eat it with food) At http://www.nutraeasy.com you can see

a few 15 second commercials with some of my friends and me. Tanner has gone

from 5 foot 7 162 to 5 foot 9 3/4 and 148 in 3 months -for weight he's goal now

-looks like a different person. But most of the weight he lost in the first

week (he lost 8 pounds his first week and then as the weeks went on kept losing

a pound or so while he grew) Now my other son Dakota needs to gain weight and

eat more -so we are using it for him to build him up! It's NOT a weight loss

product -it's a metabolic ayurvedic weight management product that will get rid

of excess toxins and fat...if you have excess of either. Either way it also

nourishes the body as it's nutrient dense.

I don't know about in kids -but in two adults I know who started the nutriiveda

while on antibiotics it worked -but not as quickly like it did for the rest of

us. (in those two cases in weight loss) One of the people is Barbara

CCC SLP who was on antibiotics for months for Lyme Disease when she first

started the nutriiveda. I'm sure she'll share more here. I would say that

antibiotics may contradict the effectiveness.

We are all different and it depends on variables just like anything. My friends

with a thyroid problem who are on medication didn't lose as fast as those who

didn't have a thyroid problem -but as they pointed out to me the fact they were

losing anything at all is amazing. I never dreamed that at my age with little

effort I'd go from a size 4 to a size 2!! But it was over 2 months -not a

week. So you need to know what you are dealing with and give it maybe a bit

more time than a week or so.

It's probably bad on my part but I never read through the entire program that is

formulated and endorsed by the Chopra Center - but I should have because it

addresses the doshas and it also addresses the rates that people will have in

progress You can (again) find it here

https://zriibucket.s3.amazonaws.com/v1/flash/2/docs/NutriiVeda.pdf

And on a funny update side note:

You know how when our kids are little and apraxic we think there will never be

that day we will say " OK stop talking already and get ready! " And sure enough

it comes with the help of therapy and other strategies...well last night

shockingly I had to tell Tanner to " turn out the light already and stop reading "

I still feel weird that I had to say that and how much stranger that Tanner said

" I just want to read a few pages more " (what it was is that he read the book

Sea of Monsters all day and he had only about 30 pages left and wanted to finish

-and I just said he could read it today) (sigh)

I again don't know what is creating the surges- but suspect (again) it's a blend

of the compounds vs just one...and I DO believe based on what I've seen that

nutriiveda is dose dependent. So keeping that in mind -check with your child's

doctor and make sure you are using the dosage you are able to. Even though I

don't have a blog for Tanner about this to track his surges and both regressions

when either taken off (when it went on back order -the horror and when he went

on it once a day during a weekend sleepover) -you can read about Mel's surges

and regression off at her blog (and Robin would be happy to share)

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about (click on the side for all the

different weeks)

So again let me know age, dosage and how many days it's been for your child -and

let me know for you if you were using it once or twice a day. (you don't have to

give me your age

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Have you kept your kids on their regular multi-vitamins?

From: kiddietalk@...

Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:35:50 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: NutriiVEda Progress - or lack there of

Hey -the good news is that at least you are seeing something -increase in

babble, affection, mouth exploration -not bad.

What is the age of your child, how long have you been using it and what dosage

do you have your child on? I know Gretchen's ped said only one scoop for a 4

year old but I do hope that he is aware that the dosages on the label are per 2

scoops and that most would find it fine to have a 4 year old on 2 scoops a day.

Here are the dosages

Birth to three - one scoop a day (can be split into half scoop twice a day)

Four to Eight -two scoops a day (can be split into 1 scoop twice a day)

Nine and up to adult -can take up to four scoops a day -recommended to split 2

scoops 2x a day.

The reason I share this is because and Tanner are both on 4 scoops a day

and BOTH of them regress if we lower the dosage to 2 scoops a day. Why? We don't

know -but clearly whatever effect appears to be dosage dependent. Sowmya for

example noticed little in her son on a scoop (which he's able to take 2) but

when she raised him to 2 scoops this is when she first thought he got hyper but

at the same time started making all the noises and babble...but it drove her

crazy so she took him off. And he regressed. She put him back on a scoop and a

half and of course as you've read she now views the " hyper " as her son who is

also autistic is suddenly more aware of his surroundings and the babble came

back. The teacher reported he is more " focused " That's HUGE!

And what you are reporting is very typical of what we hear in the first few days

of fish oils. Mouth exploration -increase in babble...and then soon after we

hear about the surge. Again it's strange how the two seem to be so similar. Yes

I do understand how it would be frustrating to read amazing reports about

instant surges in some of the children -but as I always said with the fish oil

the worst side effect would be no side effect at all. To me the fact that you

are noticing the changes you are means something is happening in a good way. An

increase in mouth exploration is a great thing as it's an important stage she

probably never went through fully. I can post an archive on this if you want.

As far as for you -I'd read the program

https://zriibucket.s3.amazonaws.com/v1/flash/2/docs/NutriiVeda.pdf and make sure

if you want to lose weight that 'you' are using it twice a day which means 4

scoops a day. Again I never read it when I started neither did my friends and

neighbors =nor followed it for Tanner -and all of us lost the weight we wanted

in about a month or two. Yes you may lose weight using it once a day but that's

for maintenance and health. You need to make sure you drink enough water

especially the first week, eat 3 meals a day and 2 healthy snacks a day (if you

are not eating for hours your body thinks it's starving and metabolism slows

down) -so you are pretty much wanting to eat a bit all day -grazing I call it -2

snacks PLUS 3 meals - either replacing one or two meals with the nutriiveda (and

again you don't have to replace meals you can eat food with it -this morning

Dakota had 2 slices of french toast and his vanilla shake...but you won't eat as

much food even if you eat it with food) At http://www.nutraeasy.com you can see

a few 15 second commercials with some of my friends and me. Tanner has gone from

5 foot 7 162 to 5 foot 9 3/4 and 148 in 3 months -for weight he's goal now

-looks like a different person. But most of the weight he lost in the first week

(he lost 8 pounds his first week and then as the weeks went on kept losing a

pound or so while he grew) Now my other son Dakota needs to gain weight and eat

more -so we are using it for him to build him up! It's NOT a weight loss product

-it's a metabolic ayurvedic weight management product that will get rid of

excess toxins and fat...if you have excess of either. Either way it also

nourishes the body as it's nutrient dense.

I don't know about in kids -but in two adults I know who started the nutriiveda

while on antibiotics it worked -but not as quickly like it did for the rest of

us. (in those two cases in weight loss) One of the people is Barbara CCC

SLP who was on antibiotics for months for Lyme Disease when she first started

the nutriiveda. I'm sure she'll share more here. I would say that antibiotics

may contradict the effectiveness.

We are all different and it depends on variables just like anything. My friends

with a thyroid problem who are on medication didn't lose as fast as those who

didn't have a thyroid problem -but as they pointed out to me the fact they were

losing anything at all is amazing. I never dreamed that at my age with little

effort I'd go from a size 4 to a size 2!! But it was over 2 months -not a week.

So you need to know what you are dealing with and give it maybe a bit more time

than a week or so.

It's probably bad on my part but I never read through the entire program that is

formulated and endorsed by the Chopra Center - but I should have because it

addresses the doshas and it also addresses the rates that people will have in

progress You can (again) find it here

https://zriibucket.s3.amazonaws.com/v1/flash/2/docs/NutriiVeda.pdf

And on a funny update side note:

You know how when our kids are little and apraxic we think there will never be

that day we will say " OK stop talking already and get ready! " And sure enough it

comes with the help of therapy and other strategies...well last night shockingly

I had to tell Tanner to " turn out the light already and stop reading " I still

feel weird that I had to say that and how much stranger that Tanner said " I just

want to read a few pages more " (what it was is that he read the book Sea of

Monsters all day and he had only about 30 pages left and wanted to finish -and I

just said he could read it today) (sigh)

I again don't know what is creating the surges- but suspect (again) it's a blend

of the compounds vs just one...and I DO believe based on what I've seen that

nutriiveda is dose dependent. So keeping that in mind -check with your child's

doctor and make sure you are using the dosage you are able to. Even though I

don't have a blog for Tanner about this to track his surges and both regressions

when either taken off (when it went on back order -the horror and when he went

on it once a day during a weekend sleepover) -you can read about Mel's surges

and regression off at her blog (and Robin would be happy to share)

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about (click on the side for all the

different weeks)

So again let me know age, dosage and how many days it's been for your child -and

let me know for you if you were using it once or twice a day. (you don't have to

give me your age

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