RE: NV question

[Guest guest]

Maybe mix it in apple sauce. It makes it like a chocolate pudding

 

Demi

From: modelmomnyc <elee1222@...>

Subject: [ ] NV question

Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 9:31 AM

 

I'm still trying to figure out dairy free ways to get NV into Madelyn. Does it

need to be used right away after it is mixed? Or can I blend it into rice milk

and leave it in the fridge all day, giving out a cup at a time?

Also, do the serving suggestions primarily go by age or size? She is 27 months,

but a petite 22 lbs. I am shooting for 1/2 scoop, but wondering if I should go

with 1 scoop.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Have you tried almond milk? My boys especially love it in vanilla almond

milk. If it’s all blended up with a hand mixer or smoothie mixer etc., it’s

creamy and, to me, tastes like chocolate ice cream (we use chocolate). It

doesn’t have to be served right away. Sometimes I mix it and my boys will

drink half and then finish the rest later in the day. My boys are 2 ½ and 3

½ and they weigh about 35 lbs. each and we give them a heaping scoop each.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of modelmomnyc

Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:32 AM

Subject: [ ] NV question

I'm still trying to figure out dairy free ways to get NV into Madelyn. Does

it need to be used right away after it is mixed? Or can I blend it into rice

milk and leave it in the fridge all day, giving out a cup at a time?

Also, do the serving suggestions primarily go by age or size? She is 27

months, but a petite 22 lbs. I am shooting for 1/2 scoop, but wondering if I

should go with 1 scoop.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thanks,

I was going to try the almond milk for my older kids, but maybe she'll like it

too.

From: Stilwell

Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:10 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] NV question

Have you tried almond milk? My boys especially love it in vanilla almond

milk. If it's all blended up with a hand mixer or smoothie mixer etc., it's

creamy and, to me, tastes like chocolate ice cream (we use chocolate). It

doesn't have to be served right away. Sometimes I mix it and my boys will

drink half and then finish the rest later in the day. My boys are 2 ½ and 3

½ and they weigh about 35 lbs. each and we give them a heaping scoop each.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of modelmomnyc

Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:32 AM

Subject: [ ] NV question

I'm still trying to figure out dairy free ways to get NV into Madelyn. Does

it need to be used right away after it is mixed? Or can I blend it into rice

milk and leave it in the fridge all day, giving out a cup at a time?

Also, do the serving suggestions primarily go by age or size? She is 27

months, but a petite 22 lbs. I am shooting for 1/2 scoop, but wondering if I

should go with 1 scoop.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hey !

It doesn't have to be used right away, if you use it the same day it's blended

together, it should be just fine. I wouldn't let it get too old though... the

older it gets may be a turn off to her. Fresh is best, but leaving it in the

fridge all day and giving it to her later on is fine. Just shake it up a little

bit before you give it to her, just to break up anything that might have settled

to the bottom. I would go for a full scoop per day (but that's just me!), but

you can break it up throughout the day if you want.

Sincerely,

Romesa

The NV Sheriff

334-220-8140

From: elee1222@...

Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 13:31:37 +0000

Subject: [ ] NV question

I'm still trying to figure out dairy free ways to get NV into Madelyn. Does it

need to be used right away after it is mixed? Or can I blend it into rice milk

and leave it in the fridge all day, giving out a cup at a time?

Also, do the serving suggestions primarily go by age or size? She is 27 months,

but a petite 22 lbs. I am shooting for 1/2 scoop, but wondering if I should go

with 1 scoop.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

My grandson did not really like NV so it was difficult to get him to take it.

His mother just found that by putting the vanilla NV into rice milk and then

adding Oregon Chai Tea he now loves his NV drink. He comes back for more.

I thought this might work after watching my daughter add the Oregon Chai Tea to

my NT grandson's cow milk. He would not drink milk until she started doing this.

Chocolate did not even work. Try it. It really taste good. You can buy it at

Costco.

Nora

>

> I'm still trying to figure out dairy free ways to get NV into Madelyn. Does it

need to be used right away after it is mixed? Or can I blend it into rice milk

and leave it in the fridge all day, giving out a cup at a time?

>

> Also, do the serving suggestions primarily go by age or size? She is 27

months, but a petite 22 lbs. I am shooting for 1/2 scoop, but wondering if I

should go with 1 scoop.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to & Demi for your replies, I knew I would get help from this group.

I tend to agree with you both that since there is some reaction, NV is doing

something in his body. bit me, but more my husband when he was on NV. But

now I think it may be his frustration at not being able to speak because on the

second night, he got up at midnight and started screaming and shouting, it was

an absolute nightmare. But come morning, he started saying so many words he had

heard before, it was like a speech explosion. But after some time, his

shouting-screaming behaviour returned. It lasted for 2-3 days on-off. It was

luckily a weekend. As said, used to be very hyper-active when he

started fish oil many years back and I had to start and stop it so many times.

But now does not have any hyper-activity with fish oil. I think he got used

to the product.

has had some biting in the past without these supplements but that was a

rare time when he went downhill in so many areas for no apparent reason for many

weeks, but after that he was back to how he was before.

I think I'll wait for Christmas and then start with the pinch of NV, and try to

bear all his " bites " and " scratches " on me. May be like the fish oil, he'll

eventually get over the hyperactivity and start showing some real progress.

, thanks for the Autism helpline advice too, I'll need them

Regards,

bibi

> >

> > Hi everybody,

> > I have written to this group before about giving NV to my 10 year old

autistic son, .

> >

> > The first time around, I gave him NV with equal amount of Horlicks and he

had very bad hyperactivity with biting and hitting others. When I reported it to

this group, everyone suggested giving NV without Horlicks. So, I started again

without Horlicks and also with just 1/2 scoop a day. He was biting others again

after few days. With 's advice, after few days I again started NV, this time

at 1/8 of a scoop, but unfortunately, he bit a school staff and another kid

right on the second day and was grabbing and pulling at others clothes.

> >

> > Because he goes to school, I cant continue giving him NV if he bites other

children and staff. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should give NV

to him now? He drinks a lot of water when he takes NV so thats not a problem. I

really feel bad that I am not able to give him atleast half the dosage to see if

he has any improvements. This group has parents with a lot of experience esp.

with NV and are very helpful, so I'm hoping some one will have some answer for

me.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > bibi

> >

>

[Guest guest]

BiBi, I had problems in the spring when I introduced NV into my then 6 year old

daughter. She has moderate to severe apraxia but is able to speak with language

being her difficulty.So when she wants to express complex thoughts she becomes

more frustrated or acts out.

She became extremely aggitated,and was verbally and phsically abusive. We too

backed off on the amount of NV, we probaly went down to about 1/2 teaspoon. But

our daughter has a history of getting extraordinarily aggitated with different

supplements and vitamins we tried in the past, so I made the decision to stop

the nutriiveda for a while until I could be sure there were no other vitamins or

supplements that could be contributing to the horrendous behavior.

We had a very rough summer even though she was taking nothing more than a

probiotic and her fish oils(by the way she had no problems when I introduced

them when she was 2), AND L-theanine which is a supplement extracted from green

tea leaves that creates a calming state(and I believe is in nutiiveda). I was

giving our daughter 100mg of L theanine at bed for about three weeks before

school started in sept and then on weekends. She really was more centered and

calm-also we started therapeutic listening program in july. Since she was more

" centered " and her behavior was more stable I decided to start NV again about 3

weeks ago and we have not had any aggitation from it.

(she still gets ornery on the weekends but she did that any way).We actually

started way too fast and within a week and a half worked her up to 4 scoops a

day. We weren't seeing surges so with advice here I backed down to 2 scoops,

ironically some some oustanding reading skills, but thenat 2 scoops, it

subsided. I need to work on the dosage and hopefully see surges like we did with

fish oils.

Some parents from what I have read in the past just hung in there backing down

on the dosage and gradually incresing it. I didn't take it down to that point,

in my case I feel like getting her system calmed is what made her be able to

tolerate the NV this time. Good LUCK, I know the feeling of just wanting to be

able to try something that may make a difference. Cheryl

> > >

> > > Hi everybody,

> > > I have written to this group before about giving NV to my 10 year old

autistic son, .

> > >

> > > The first time around, I gave him NV with equal amount of Horlicks and he

had very bad hyperactivity with biting and hitting others. When I reported it to

this group, everyone suggested giving NV without Horlicks. So, I started again

without Horlicks and also with just 1/2 scoop a day. He was biting others again

after few days. With 's advice, after few days I again started NV, this time

at 1/8 of a scoop, but unfortunately, he bit a school staff and another kid

right on the second day and was grabbing and pulling at others clothes.

> > >

> > > Because he goes to school, I cant continue giving him NV if he bites other

children and staff. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should give NV

to him now? He drinks a lot of water when he takes NV so thats not a problem. I

really feel bad that I am not able to give him atleast half the dosage to see if

he has any improvements. This group has parents with a lot of experience esp.

with NV and are very helpful, so I'm hoping some one will have some answer for

me.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > bibi

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks all for sharing your NV before/after experience.  I agree with that

may be changes are comign so faster than expected, parents might get overwhelmed

and dont record those changes.  Another question i have about NV.

 

As I did my research on NV, i find out that Deepak Chopra initially created and

marketed this product for weight management... Nowhere in the product they

talked about speech apraxia, autism or anything.  So what's the history of

linking NV with kids with speech disability?  Who on earth started giving NV to

kids with speech issues where the product is actually for wt management?  Anyone

knows where this idea came from?

 

Thanks.

>

> Here's our video trail....starting with before & #65533; was diagnosed,

all the way

> up to improvements from fish oil and Nutriiveda.

>

> The video that makes me teary every time I watch....as grunts for

cookies

> (he was barely 3 here). & #65533; This was before the apraxia diagnoses and I

hate myself

> for trying to get him to say cookies over and over. & #65533; Sigh.

>

>

>

> after starting fish oil and working with an awesome & #65533;SLP 4 days a

week (6

> months after diagnoses). & #65533; He was still 3 here.

>

>

>

> 6 months later and & #65533;after 1 month on 1 scoop

of & #65533;Nutriiveda...(age 4)

>

>

>

>

>

> Major improvements in eye contact, focus and conversation skills! & #65533;

>

> Even more improvements...scoop and a half of Nutriiveda 3 months

later & #65533;(age 4)

>

>

>

> This video showing an alarming visual stemming behavior started doing

> while he was 4 years old. & #65533; It has been eliminated since we upped his

Nutriiveda

> dosage to 2 scoops.

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ogvdO1rsuQ & feature=related

>

> This video was taken just over a month ago (Coop just turned 5). & #65533; Hold

on to

> your hats. & #65533; He's come a lllooonnnnnggg way :)

>

>

>

>

> Nutriiveda, fish oil and intensive speech therapy have all been the things

that

> have helped most. & #65533; & #65533;He was diagnosed as severely apraxic

at age 3. & #65533; He is

> now 5 and I just had his pre-K & #65533;parent-teacher conference today. & #65533;

His teacher

> told me that 's biggest problem & #65533;is that he is often & #65533;too

busy socializing

> to complete all his work. & #65533; She probably thought I was nuts when I

smiled at

> that. & #65533; I was just always worried that he would have a hard time making

friends

> because of speech issues...like the other kids might not be able to understand

> him? & #65533; & #65533; 's made so much progress, it looks like I'll be

battling to keep

> speech services through the district next year. & #65533; It's a battle I'm

happy to

> fight because I know he still has a ways to go, but the improvements are

> happening every day with the right tools

>

> Overall, the biggest improvements we saw from Nutriiveda are related to focus

> and conversation skills. & #65533; & #65533;Coop tested above average in

vocabulary at school and

> I swear we have NV to thank for that too!

>

> Gretchen Walsh

> (Columbus, OH)

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 2:16:26 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Youtube?

>

> Sharon has a video on Youtube

but

for

> some reason only the before. & #65533; She has the after videos here on her blog

> http://apraxiastory.wordpress.com/before-after-video/ & #65533; Other parents

have videos

> on their blog as well -Gretchen from this group for example for sure who is a

TV

> news producer (so super cute and well done before and after NV videos-

Gretchen

> the one about the " what is it? " raccoon video!!!) -but don't know if others

want

> to share with everyone on Youtube? & #65533; Since I don't know if she wants to

share

> here -you can read Gretchen's testimony here

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html and her son went on video from

> being unintelligible to an amazing communicator in very short time. & #65533;

Search the

> archives for gretchie9@... & #65533; And what is going on with this is typical

of

> what happened with fish oils. & #65533; Parents are more active when they are

worried

> about their kids -and then they fade off. & #65533; Again very few stick around

to help

> after they don't 'need' to be here. & #65533; Understandable and normal. & #65533;

And because

> things are going so quick with NV -even more understandable there are less

> videos. & #65533; So note to new people yet to try NV -do a before and after

video

>

> I know Sharon isn't faded off even though her son too is doing

amazing. & #65533; She is

> in the middle of a HUGE move from Ohio across country so her life is a bit

> hectic -but otherwise I'm sure she'd answer this herself -and I know this is

why

> she only has the one up at Youtube -just has not had a chance to catch up with

> life yet. & #65533; Give it a bit of time -there will be some willing to share

on Youtube

> -there always is. & #65533; Thing is that with NV you have to make sure you

videotape

> prior to starting because the surges in most cases are within one day to three

> and nobody expects it even though it's reported over and over. & #65533; Perhaps

on the

> new testimonial page for Pursuit of Research

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html we can have a section to upload

> videos?

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

(see me raising my hand

I believe I wrote this about a year ago- in the Fall of 2009, around when I

first put Tanner on NV and this explains why -and the start of when I shared it.

http://pursuitofresearch.org/letter_lisa.html

I used to be very ginger and say " I don't know if this will work for others but

share with your doctor " and today a year later after knowing what I do and

seeing how this works I am like " I'm almost sure this will work for you but

share with your doctor " (...and if it doesn't work it comes with a money back

guarantee!!!!) There must be a reason it's working from an essential nutrient

or nutrients sense as I say here http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheryl,

Yes both can if it's developmentally appropriate at that age probably due to the

increase in neurotransmitter production -but I'm just not sure why no surge

after 3 weeks on NV. Is she using level scoops? Can she ask her doc about

going to heaping scoops or just one 1/2 more a scoop a day? We know a few times

that a little bit more makes a difference as it's dosage dependent. There are

some 6 year olds that can respond to one scoop -but most need 2 and some may

need 3. Do you know if she's regular or constipated? For this type of food

" therapy " that's important to know as well.

I know of a handful of cases now with verbal autistic children this is working

for -one of them is friends with Romesa from this group and she lives near me.

Her son is a tween and had severe behavior and anger issues to the point the

parents were starting to think about his future as he would attack others. He

however had surges within 24 hours and was on it for a week with a complete

change in social and anger etc. The parents who live in Jupiter near me were so

shocked they thought it was coincidence so let it run out and he totally

regressed back. He's now on it daily and is getting gold stars in school- and

making friends and telling his mother that he no longer feels so angry all the

time. I have a few really cool stories about him. And I just got a message

from one of the grandparents in this group where the grandson has apraxia and

severe behavior issues to where he gave the mother a black eye and bloody nose

etc. Head butting etc. He didn't surge much in speech but in behavior- but

they took him off and he too like Logan regressed immediately in behavior.

We know for most NV works in a day to a few days -but until we know all it's

doing we don't know when it's working on other things in the body on a cellular

level perhaps that we can't see. Some there (like you from PA had

thought they weren't seeing much in the way of surges on NV -took the child off

and he stopped progressing so put him back on..and then instead of days and

weeks -a few months on it and he's doing amazing. Sometimes keeping a journal

is good because this is all new. As long as we are seeing progress in the long

run and in extremely shorter times, it's of course all good. Weigh positive and

negative- play with dosage, speak to a knowledgeable pediatrician or

neurologist. I'm sure in the next few years this all will be very clear as to

what's going on and why we see what we do as quick as we do- and thus why

sometimes it takes longer depending upon the child's condition/metabolic system?

Hope that helps!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, !  I will pass on all this info. I will also ask her some more

questions to find out exactly what's going on.  She lives kind of far away from

me so I don't see the child frequently.

Sheryl

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: NV question

Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:00 AM

 

Thanks Sheryl,

Yes both can if it's developmentally appropriate at that age probably due to the

increase in neurotransmitter production -but I'm just not sure why no surge

after 3 weeks on NV. Is she using level scoops? Can she ask her doc about going

to heaping scoops or just one 1/2 more a scoop a day? We know a few times that a

little bit more makes a difference as it's dosage dependent. There are some 6

year olds that can respond to one scoop -but most need 2 and some may need 3. Do

you know if she's regular or constipated? For this type of food " therapy " that's

important to know as well.

I know of a handful of cases now with verbal autistic children this is working

for -one of them is friends with Romesa from this group and she lives near me.

Her son is a tween and had severe behavior and anger issues to the point the

parents were starting to think about his future as he would attack others. He

however had surges within 24 hours and was on it for a week with a complete

change in social and anger etc. The parents who live in Jupiter near me were so

shocked they thought it was coincidence so let it run out and he totally

regressed back. He's now on it daily and is getting gold stars in school- and

making friends and telling his mother that he no longer feels so angry all the

time. I have a few really cool stories about him. And I just got a message from

one of the grandparents in this group where the grandson has apraxia and severe

behavior issues to where he gave the mother a black eye and bloody nose etc.

Head butting etc. He didn't

surge much in speech but in behavior- but they took him off and he too like

Logan regressed immediately in behavior.

We know for most NV works in a day to a few days -but until we know all it's

doing we don't know when it's working on other things in the body on a cellular

level perhaps that we can't see. Some there (like you from PA had

thought they weren't seeing much in the way of surges on NV -took the child off

and he stopped progressing so put him back on..and then instead of days and

weeks -a few months on it and he's doing amazing. Sometimes keeping a journal is

good because this is all new. As long as we are seeing progress in the long run

and in extremely shorter times, it's of course all good. Weigh positive and

negative- play with dosage, speak to a knowledgeable pediatrician or

neurologist. I'm sure in the next few years this all will be very clear as to

what's going on and why we see what we do as quick as we do- and thus why

sometimes it takes longer depending upon the child's condition/metabolic system?

Hope that helps!

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