Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Ian, There is a 'big' difference between being bulky (Arnold) and being ripped (Brad Pitt). You can maintain most of your present muscle mass while exercising and restricting calories. As the fat cells shrink and your muscles become more toned (not bigger), you will look more muscular (ripped). And since some recent research showed that exercising CR animals had the same life expectancy as sedentary CR animals, I wouldn't worry too much about exercise induced increased burn-rate. Another thing: It is VERY difficult to increase muscle mass beyond what a sedentary person can experience after 6 months to a year (maybe 2 years) of dedicated weight training. At some point the gains taper off despite what muscle magazines and supplements ads tell you. Instead of trying to increase muscle mass, just let your present muscles become toned (through exercise) and come to the surface (through fat loss). You'll probably find that you don't need to eat a lot to maintain an athletic appearance. -Matt > > > >> I'm now determined that for my next CR-progress report I'm > >> going to be totally ripped with increased musculature!! > > > >You may want to do that for other reasons, but I don't see that it has any > >relationship to the excellent health and increased longevity inducible by CR. > > > IAN: Yeah, unfortunately I can't disagree. Every ounce > of gained muscle means greater daily caloric intake to > feed that extra muscle mass. Muscle gain and achieving > maximum benefits from CR seem to be irrevocably at odds. > > But, perhaps it's a matter of the ratio between caloric > intake a lean-body mass. If it's the burning of calories > that reduces lifespan, then if more burning occurs over > a larger area of lean-body mass might there be a similar > " caloric load " as with less burning over less lean mass? > For example, we might expect that a 7-foot person could > get the same benefits from CR as a 5-foot person, even > though the shorter guy is eating less. In speculation > mode: perhaps greater lean-body mass is the same as > greater height, ie, it might make no difference.??? > > Is anyone aware of research pertaining to body mass and > longevity with a distinction between lean vs fat mass? > Ever notice how well age seems to have treated Arnold > Schwarzenegger? I've seen photos from what appear to > be the early 60s of him, and compared to x dozens of > famous people I'm aware of having survived over that > time, he seems to be the most unchanged of them all. > > http://IanGoddard.net > > " To lengthen thy life, lessen thy meals. " Ben lin > > http://www.ultrahiq.net/Ubiquity/Winter02/CR.html > > Fat to Thin: http://IanGoddard.net/me-cr.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2002 Report Share Posted May 29, 2002 --- " mattcomard " <matthew.comard@l...> wrote: > Ian, > > There is a 'big' difference between being bulky (Arnold) and being > ripped (Brad Pitt). You can maintain most of your present muscle mass > while exercising and restricting calories. As the fat cells shrink > and your muscles become more toned (not bigger), you will look more > muscular (ripped). IAN: That's the truth. Some have said it looked like I gained muscle in after CR photo. But after 6 months of almost no exercise, I know I lost some muscle. But to your point, cutting body fat makes muscle look bigger. > And since some recent research showed that exercising CR animals had > the same life expectancy as sedentary CR animals, I wouldn't worry > too much about exercise induced increased burn-rate. IAN: I would love to see that research. > Another thing: It is VERY difficult to increase muscle mass beyond > what a sedentary person can experience after 6 months to a year > (maybe 2 years) of dedicated weight training. At some point the gains > taper off despite what muscle magazines and supplements ads tell you. IAN: When I lifted weights in my early 20s, I put on 30+ lbs of pure muscle over 6 months, then it was like I hit a wall and no matter how hard I tried, no more gains. But then I figured out the secret: fewer sets, thus less catabolism, and fewer reps of very heavy weights, which seemed to force gains. I saw fast gains, and then my back " went out " and I stopped. I got back on board a few more times since then, but each time some new physical problem stopped me. My intensity always exceeded my real physical limits. I always lifted with " massive gains " in mind, not a sensible and practical " just maintain muscle tone. " > Instead of trying to increase muscle mass, just let your present > muscles become toned (through exercise) and come to the surface > (through fat loss). You'll probably find that you don't need to eat a > lot to maintain an athletic appearance. IAN: Right. That's sensible, practical, easier, and safer! http://IanGoddard.net " To lengthen thy life, lessen thy meals. " Ben lin http://www.ultrahiq.net/Ubiquity/Winter02/CR.html Fat to Thin: http://IanGoddard.net/me-cr.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2002 Report Share Posted May 29, 2002 Matt: And since some recent research showed that exercising CR animals had the same life expectancy as sedentary CR animals, I wouldn't worry too much about exercise induced increased burn-rate. IAN: I would love to see that research. Matt: I mentioned it a week or so ago after reading a summary of the AGE 2001 Conference in Madison, Wi. You can find the article in the latest issue of Life Extension Magazine, and a copy of the article entitled " Caloric Restriction, Exercise, Hormone Replacements, and Phytonutrients Fight Aging " may be online (http://www.lef.org). Regards, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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