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Educate B 4 U Vaccinate. The flu shot contains high levels of mercury. I

would take a more holistic approach, if it was me. Many wonderful web sites

to get more info.

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Is your son at high risk for Pneumonia or is he vaccinated against it? That's

the biggest concern with flu is that it kills people with weak immune systems by

settling in the lungs and turning into pneumonia.

I would not give my kids a flu shot, for the record. We do Vitamin D3 in the

winter months and practice diligent handwashing. We stayed well last winter and

without incident.

There are a lot of foods that strengthen the immune system, I love the book

Disease Proof Your Child, for example. Another thing I'd look into is a really

quality Probiotic!

Best,

Hillary

>

> Hi There,

>

> I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

>

> My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

>

> I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

>

> I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> #2 after his birth...

>

> I'd love any feedback from others.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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Josh and I both just got our flu shots today.  It really does depend on your

individual circumstances and beliefs.  I deal with prison inmates and am

exposed to all sorts of illnesses so I get the flu shot to protect myself and

what I may pass along to Josh (12 yo, apraxia, etc.).  Josh has asthma on top

of other things, has had pneumonia in the past, and was diagnosed with epilepsy

last October - if he were to get a fever or be sick with the flu, it would

likely increase epileptic seizures and, with the asthma, he doesn't need flu

with potential respiratory problems.  Last winter I did not get him the shot

(he had broken his leg at school and, with dealing with recovery from that, I

just forgot) and, in December, we wound up in the hospital ER with flu and

bronchitis.

 

So, while the decision is a tough one, do the research and go at it with that

knowledge.  Good luck!

 

Sherry and Josh

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Subject: [ ] Your position on the flu shot or vaccines in

general?

Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 10:02 PM

 

Hi There,

I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

#2 after his birth...

I'd love any feedback from others.

Thanks,

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Hello ,

I had my son vaccinated up till he was 1 year old. I did my own research and

didn't " go with the flow " and stopped having him vaccinated. My second son

hasn't been vaccinated at all. You may be in a dilema though if you stop having

your child vaccinated with the daycare. I think daycare and the public school

system will require that you jump through their hoops for your child to

participate in their programs. I plan to homeschool, so, it isn't an issue for

our family. But, the website I am going to give you pretty much explains every

reason why I have chosen NOT to have my kids vaccinated. Others here on the

forum feel free to pay it a visit! Let's think for ourselves!

www.vaccinationdebate.net

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,

Romesa

The NV Sheriff

334-220-8140

> >

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> > kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

> >

> > My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> > flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> > to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> > issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> > more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> > immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> > naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> > boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> > fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> > week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> > can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

> >

> > I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> > I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> > about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> > don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> > the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> > don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

> >

> > I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> > parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> > general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> > all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> > I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> > #2 after his birth...

> >

> > I'd love any feedback from others.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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As much as I hate to put chemicals into my four year old son, I am getting him a

flu shot. I have asthma and 10 years ago I got the flu & ended up in the

hospital for more than a week. I was active and healthy and I took my asthma

med's but that year I forgot to get a flu shot. Evan has global apraxia, he is

in a public PreK & aftercare three days a week. He has had RSV & has severe

allergies & asthma like symtoms. He has been rushed to the ER three times for

breathing problems. As many bad things that I hear about the shot... I will be

getting it for my son.

>

> Hi There,

>

> I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

>

> My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

>

> I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

>

> I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> #2 after his birth...

>

> I'd love any feedback from others.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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We all have our own beliefs. Nobody in my family EVER gets the flu shots, nor

any shots. We are quite healthy, my kids get ill MUCH less than their peers. I

am in no way saying our decision is better than anyone's (that may differ), we

all have our " religions " and not vaccinating is ours.

Ivy

> >

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> > kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

> >

> > My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> > flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> > to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> > issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> > more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> > immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> > naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> > boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> > fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> > week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> > can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

> >

> > I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> > I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> > about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> > don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> > the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> > don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

> >

> > I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> > parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> > general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> > all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> > I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> > #2 after his birth...

> >

> > I'd love any feedback from others.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'm not getting the flu shot for my son. He has a very healthy immune system

with no complicators like asthma. My whole family has never gotten flu shots

and neither has my husband's family.

As for vaccines, I look at each one and balance the risks vrs the benefits. For

example, my son is not in day care or preschool and he never had problems with

ear infections, so we did not do the one that prevents ear infections (I think

it is hib?) He got d-tap cause we live in an area with pertussis and tetanus. I

also go with the low and slow method, meaning less vaccines when he gets then

and later than the CDC calls for.

> >

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> > kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

> >

> > My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> > flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> > to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> > issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> > more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> > immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> > naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> > boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> > fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> > week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> > can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

> >

> > I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> > I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> > about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> > don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> > the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> > don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

> >

> > I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> > parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> > general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> > all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> > I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> > #2 after his birth...

> >

> > I'd love any feedback from others.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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We do the flu shot here plus the other immunizations as well. I am a peds nurse

who deals with kids with all kinds of illnesses and those who have been

transplanted and kids with cancer. Our daughter attends public school and my

husband is diabetic, and the last thing any of us needs is the flu, so we do

everything we can to prevent it and other illnesses as well. I immunize and will

continue to do so , so everyone stays healthy and alive. I have seen too many

wind up in ICU from pneumonia, pertussis and other preventable illnesses. Please

consider all the facts pro and con before you decide, this is what I am doing

and what I feel is best for my family. Thank you

Deb

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[ ] Re: Your position on the flu shot or vaccines in

general?

As much as I hate to put chemicals into my four year old son, I am getting him a

flu shot. I have asthma and 10 years ago I got the flu & ended up in the

hospital for more than a week. I was active and healthy and I took my asthma

med's but that year I forgot to get a flu shot. Evan has global apraxia, he is

in a public PreK & aftercare three days a week. He has had RSV & has severe

allergies & asthma like symtoms. He has been rushed to the ER three times for

breathing problems. As many bad things that I hear about the shot... I will be

getting it for my son.

>

> Hi There,

>

> I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

>

> My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

>

> I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

>

> I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> #2 after his birth...

>

> I'd love any feedback from others.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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Thank you for this.

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On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:37 AM, dzem@... wrote:

> We do the flu shot here plus the other immunizations as well. I am a peds

nurse who deals with kids with all kinds of illnesses and those who have been

transplanted and kids with cancer. Our daughter attends public school and my

husband is diabetic, and the last thing any of us needs is the flu, so we do

everything we can to prevent it and other illnesses as well. I immunize and will

continue to do so , so everyone stays healthy and alive. I have seen too many

wind up in ICU from pneumonia, pertussis and other preventable illnesses. Please

consider all the facts pro and con before you decide, this is what I am doing

and what I feel is best for my family. Thank you

> Deb

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> [ ] Re: Your position on the flu shot or vaccines

in general?

>

> As much as I hate to put chemicals into my four year old son, I am getting him

a flu shot. I have asthma and 10 years ago I got the flu & ended up in the

hospital for more than a week. I was active and healthy and I took my asthma

med's but that year I forgot to get a flu shot. Evan has global apraxia, he is

in a public PreK & aftercare three days a week. He has had RSV & has severe

allergies & asthma like symtoms. He has been rushed to the ER three times for

breathing problems. As many bad things that I hear about the shot... I will be

getting it for my son.

>

>

> >

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> > kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

> >

> > My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> > flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> > to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> > issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> > more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> > immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> > naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> > boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> > fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> > week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> > can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

> >

> > I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> > I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> > about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> > don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> > the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> > don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

> >

> > I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> > parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> > general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> > all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> > I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> > #2 after his birth...

> >

> > I'd love any feedback from others.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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My 9yo daughter gets her flu shot every winter! Winters here in NY can get very

rough! She had brain surgery less than a month ago, I think that alone is enough

to give her extra protection from the flu. The FLu shot is recommended for all

PEOPLE, including babies 6mos and Senior citizen and all those with underlying

conditions. She has a few of those---including CP, APraxia and Hydrocephalus.

What convinced me for good was what happened in our town a few winters ago. We

took my oldest son, who was prob 9 at the time, to a cub scout function. It was

a Friday night and it was great to get out with some new friends and meet some

new kids. there was one little boy who stood out in the crowd immediately! He

had the most infectious laugh and was,within a few minutes, the life of the room

and of the night! We all had fun and went home. I heard a week later that that

little 7yo had been admitted to the hospital the Tuesday after we saw him. He

had a severe asthma attack. Long story short, he passed away that Sunday! One

week and two days after I got to meet this sweet little boy. I heard in the news

reports that he did not have a flu shot, so his little body could not fight what

was invading him anymore. It was the middle of February here. And the worst part

was another week later when I happen to be at the ES where he went with my son

and watching his 1st grade teacher and all the teachers in that school with

tears in their eyes, going off to his funeral.

So yes, we were healthy last winter, and we all wash our hands and take vitamins

and use sanitizer--but that is not enough for our kids if they happen to touch

the doorhandle in the mall or store--or school where these germs are. So that is

the reason my daughter gets all her immunizations and her flu shot every

year--because every winter I think of that family who lost their little boy--he

was their only child.

We are all passionate about our beliefs, but the safety of my daughter is most

important. I spent many nights with her as a baby wiht nebulizers and bringing

her to the ER because she could not breath right--I never, ever want to go thru

that again!

Read the CDC website. Theres plenty of info there about the safety of the

contents in flu shots.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

> >

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I was wondering how folks on this list feel feel about flu shots for their

> > kiddos (and/or vaccines in general)?

> >

> > My 22 month old son has been vaccinated regularly to date, and has had the

> > flu shot in the past, but given his recent apraxia diagnosis, I'm hesitating

> > to do the flu shot this year. The problem is that he also has an immune

> > issue called selective IgA deficiency (which means he can pick illnesses up

> > more easily and his body can't fight them off so well). My son's

> > immunologist says to absolutely get the flu shot, whereas his pediatric

> > naturopath says to not get it (she has him on numerous supplements to help

> > boost his immune issue and perhaps help w/ the apraxia -- plus we're doing

> > fish oils and NV). I should note that my son is in daycare 2 full days a

> > week and definitely gets exposed to lots of germs. The Naturopath says we

> > can use homeopathic remedies to fight any flu symptoms off though.

> >

> > I'm also worried b/c I'm pregnant (due in Jan.) and wondering about whether

> > I should have the flu shot to protect me and the baby? Part of me worries

> > about getting sick and the other part is hesitant to get the shot since I

> > don't want to take any chances with baby #2 getting exposed to anything in

> > the shot itself even if we do the preservative free version (esp. since I

> > don't know what caused my son's apraxia/immune issues in the first place.)

> >

> > I'm guessing this might be a heated topic, but I'd love to hear what other

> > parents of kids with apraxia think about the flu shot and vaccines in

> > general. None of my local friends have kids with apraxia or IgA and they're

> > all either completely pro-vaccine and flu shots or completely opposed. Plus,

> > I'm just not clear on what my vaccine/flu shot position will be now for baby

> > #2 after his birth...

> >

> > I'd love any feedback from others.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I tend to cringe whenever this topic comes up as it does each flu season and

because of the passion on both sides and the hurt feelings that come from when

one side directly opposes another. Before I give my opinion I want to say while

my immediate family has never had a flu shot and as a family we are rarely sick

and not at risk, my elderly mom and previous to her recent death for last year

not this year my Aunt both went each year because they fell into the risk

category that Maureen speaks of. My Aunt had her PhD in nursing, taught nursing

at LIU, worked as an Army nurse and for the US government in some top secret

aspects to mass disaster we just learned of since her death, was a Hospice nurse

and a member of Mensa and was always learning more and more. She was not

blindly pro or con anything and that included medicine. My Aunt taught me to

analyze. And yes while I was taught from when young how vaccines can and do

save lives I also know that Tanner's apraxia most likely was from his third Hep

shot at 11 months which back in 1999 still contained mercury. But I almost died

in childbirth with my first son Dakota -and clearly that didn't stop me from

having Tanner. Each situation is unique.

Ironically my Aunt did not have her flu shot this year and in the end that is

what killed her as some of you know. She tried not to sleep because she knew

she could die from the fluid but it was her wish to have no medication in the

end, and an aid showed up to care for her with the flu and gave it to her, and

then the other aids caught it. Would she have caught the flu if she did have

the flu shot this year -possibly she would have anyway as there are so many

strains -but perhaps not.

There are risks including risk of death on both sides of this debate so of

course all are passionate. It is just my humble opinion that it's best to

gather all information and make an educated decision based on your family and

don't get hurt by those that are blindly choosing one decision or another. We

are all unique and we each have reasons and decisions that we make based on the

best of our knowledge at this time. If there are risks from the flu as in

Maureen's child's case who recently had brain surgery then she is making a

decision based on what she believes is best for her daughter. If a parent

chooses or chooses not to vaccinate their child it is my opinion that either way

that decision is based on love of that child. It is also in my opinion to call

out when there is a death on either side as a way to say " see I was right! "

because as I pointed out with my Aunt there are no clear right or wrong answers,

just decisions based on unique situations with the limited knowledge we have.

I want to encourage all of you that have a black and white strong belief on this

topic (or for goodness sake any topic) to try to be be understanding to the

opposing view. Share your opinion but keep in mind again that words can hurt

-and with this topic I don't love it because I know typically words do hurt on

both sides -all have their reasons for their beliefs.

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