NutriiVEda Progress - or lack there of

February 1, 2010

,

Its strange that you mention about the tongue. I was continuously asking my son

to stick out his tongue in order to check it throughout the weekend because he

was holding it with all four fingers. But I never realised that he would be

" curious about the wet thing " !!! You might have hit the nail about this.

Just like you mentioned I think the biggest problem for many of us is unless we

hear our " kids " talk we fail to notice these small small changes!!

My son's therapist , who saw him after 2 weeks - came out after the session and

said his tracing was the BEST in the last 21/2 years she has worked with him!!!

He was more focussed and he had requested few things which he has never done

with her in all these 21/2 years!!! All this might seem very little to some

whose kids already have language but not to me....

For us it has always been a roller-coaster whenever we had introduced any new

supplements. But it has been a little different with nutriiveda so far.As you

said I am going to stick with it for a longtime ..there is something in it that

wants me to see all those small-small changes to give us a huge break!!! I just

want to be awed more....

Good luck,

sowmya

>

> Alyssa -

>

> My daughter has been on it since january 8th, and I also have not seem much of

a change in her. When we first started her I ended up having ot put her on

Antibiotics so I'm not sure if that messed things up - as I saw an earlier post

from that that could have some kind of impact (decrease any good changes).

I will say that 2 weeks ago my daughter started having HORRIBLE behavior issues

in school and private therapy, and last week - she was 100% better... Very few

incidents at school, and her private therapists said things were much better.

But again, I don't know if it's b/c the ear infection we were treating was gone

and she was no long uncomfortable or if b/c the NutriiVeda was running it's

course and has finally settled her back down? I have no clue. I have changed

how I give it to her and she now gets a scoop in the morning and one at night -

so not sure if that made a difference. Needless to say I'm not seeing HUGE

changes

> like Mel and Tanner are having - but I'm not giving up. Over the weekend I

thought she may have finally found her tongue and was curious as to what this

wet thing inside her mouth was! She was playing with her tongue all weekend

(hands in her mouth, sticking it out, etc.) which she had never done. Granted

it created a huge amount more of drool, but it's ok... Our nanny also said she

was starting to make new sounds (She is still non verbal as in - she wants to

talk but most of the things that come out are mama, dada, baba)... She also

attempts Big Bird with a " Bi Ba " , and is A LITTLE more effectionate with

my husband (of which she usually pushes away when he wants a hug). But no HUGE

surges.. I guess part of my problem is I am looking for her to talk - and until

she does, i won't really notice a lot of het smaller things... But again, i'm

not giving up on this product.... It's good for her even if it doesn't work -

it's giving her nutrients

> taht she most liekly was not receiving prior to taking it!

>

> I am also using it to try and lose weight, and I also have not seen much

progress, but same for me - NOT GIVING UP... I was hoping to see a quick 5 pound

loss - but NOPE... I dropped a pound from Mon - Sat. Shake for bkfst, lunch

with 2 snacks during hte day and then dinner... By the time I eat dinner I'm

STARVING (we dont' eat until 8pm after kids go down)... I am driking lots of

water (try and do 3 bottles at work, plus 0 calorie tea) limiting myself to 1

Diet Coke a day... Again - not giving up, cuz it can't hurt me and can only be

good for me!

>

> Anyone else also seeing hte same lack of changes in their child?

>

> J

> Cristal

> gtzellner@...

>

February 1, 2010

,

I agree w/Sowmya; Your dtr has made several small positive changes. The

oral/tongue exploration is wonderful! The new sounds are great too. Since

she is functionally non-verbal now, I would expect small changes at first.

Since we don't know exactly why the NV is making changes in kids w/apraxia,

autism, etc., it is hard to know how much change any one child will have.

The improvements in her behavior are also huge!

As for the antibiotics, YES, YES, YES, they can make the NV ineffective or

at least cancel each other out. I was dx with Lyme in my right knee last

June, was on antibiotics until early Dec and started NV in Oct. I did not

start losing weight until after the holidays when I increased my water

intake, was off antibiotics, returned to a healthy diet, and started

exercising again. When I researched antibiotics online, it said that they

can increase your cravings for sweets and carbs and cause weight gain. Fun,

fun.

So, based on my experience, I would not expect changes until the meds are

finished. As I said, this is only my experience but seems to agree with

what I found online.

Since the NV is healthy, it would make sense to continue and see what

happens.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

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Subject: [ ] Re: NutriiVEda Progress - or lack there of

,

Its strange that you mention about the tongue. I was continuously asking my

son to stick out his tongue in order to check it throughout the weekend

because he was holding it with all four fingers. But I never realised that

he would be " curious about the wet thing " !!! You might have hit the nail

about this.

Just like you mentioned I think the biggest problem for many of us is unless

we hear our " kids " talk we fail to notice these small small changes!!

My son's therapist , who saw him after 2 weeks - came out after the session

and said his tracing was the BEST in the last 21/2 years she has worked with

him!!! He was more focussed and he had requested few things which he has

never done with her in all these 21/2 years!!! All this might seem very

little to some whose kids already have language but not to me....

For us it has always been a roller-coaster whenever we had introduced any

new supplements. But it has been a little different with nutriiveda so

far.As you said I am going to stick with it for a longtime ..there is

something in it that wants me to see all those small-small changes to give

us a huge break!!! I just want to be awed more....

Good luck,

sowmya

>

> Alyssa -

>

> My daughter has been on it since january 8th, and I also have not seem

much of a change in her. When we first started her I ended up having ot put

her on Antibiotics so I'm not sure if that messed things up - as I saw an

earlier post from that that could have some kind of impact (decrease

any good changes). I will say that 2 weeks ago my daughter started having

HORRIBLE behavior issues in school and private therapy, and last week - she

was 100% better... Very few incidents at school, and her private therapists

said things were much better. But again, I don't know if it's b/c the ear

infection we were treating was gone and she was no long uncomfortable or if

b/c the NutriiVeda was running it's course and has finally settled her back

down? I have no clue. I have changed how I give it to her and she now gets

a scoop in the morning and one at night - so not sure if that made a

difference. Needless to say I'm not seeing HUGE changes

> like Mel and Tanner are having - but I'm not giving up. Over the weekend

I thought she may have finally found her tongue and was curious as to what

this wet thing inside her mouth was! She was playing with her tongue all

weekend (hands in her mouth, sticking it out, etc.) which she had never

done. Granted it created a huge amount more of drool, but it's ok... Our

nanny also said she was starting to make new sounds (She is still non verbal

as in - she wants to talk but most of the things that come out are mama,

dada, baba)... She also attempts Big Bird with a " Bi Ba " , and is A LITTLE

more effectionate with my husband (of which she usually pushes away when he

wants a hug). But no HUGE surges.. I guess part of my problem is I am

looking for her to talk - and until she does, i won't really notice a lot of

het smaller things... But again, i'm not giving up on this product.... It's

good for her even if it doesn't work - it's giving her nutrients

> taht she most liekly was not receiving prior to taking it!

>

> I am also using it to try and lose weight, and I also have not seen much

progress, but same for me - NOT GIVING UP... I was hoping to see a quick 5

pound loss - but NOPE... I dropped a pound from Mon - Sat. Shake for bkfst,

lunch with 2 snacks during hte day and then dinner... By the time I eat

dinner I'm STARVING (we dont' eat until 8pm after kids go down)... I am

driking lots of water (try and do 3 bottles at work, plus 0 calorie tea)

limiting myself to 1 Diet Coke a day... Again - not giving up, cuz it can't

hurt me and can only be good for me!

>

> Anyone else also seeing hte same lack of changes in their child?

>

> J

> Cristal

> gtzellner@...

>

February 1, 2010

now I recall who you are and OMG that's fantastic the progress you are

seeing!!! Your daughter is very similar to when she was younger right

with global delays/global apraxia? (for those that are new and don't know Mel's

story http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about )

What's going on with the brand new frustration I was so excited to hear about?

I know some days Mel now is frustrated but most days happy -how's ? Now

I understand your frustration in wanting more because Mel responded so much

quicker and in the same one week had come so far...but keep in mind that Mel is

25 and is able to be on 4 scoops a day- we don't know why that appears to make

a difference but Mel regressed on the 2 scoops a day and so did my son. So what

if it takes a few months vs a few weeks -progress is progress - even what you

are seeing so far...that's awesome -HUGE !!! Congratulations!!!

Remind me again how you are getting the nutriiveda into her. I think it was in

food and you do want to make sure she is getting enough liquid for her to feel

full. If she doesn't like drinking water -perhaps more juice?? Or can you mix

something in the water so she likes the taste?

About oral exploration since that like frustration is a VERY cool thing that

most parents in our group don't understand the importance of a child going

through. I again am not quick to jump and assume that signs that others view as

" bad " are as they appear. There are important stages all children go through in

developing speech, like oral exploration and teething, terrible twos, and

babbling etc. Many of our children either skipped these vital stages or didn't

experience them fully. Going through them later is better than never.

Please let me know about amount of liquid, if went through the oral

exploration stage, and what's going on with frustration!

~~~~~~~~~~~start of archive

I would not view chewing on clothes and other things as a sign of

PDD (it " could " be oral exploration -teething) Now biting -that's

just wrong and all children need to learn that's just not

acceptable. But I know of many " normal " kids that bit. Kids can

bite others for many reasons -and for late talkers -one could be

frustration. Either way -rest assure -this is either normal or

almost the entire population have children that " overcame " PDD.

" Biting is quite common among toddlers and is a very normal reaction

for this age group...Most of the time, though, biting occurs because

a child is frustrated and does not know what else to do "

http://www.nncc.org/Guidance/dc16_children.bite.html (great

suggestions on how to stop the biting, but for the " no " one -teach

your child and all around him a sign that means " no " that has to be

accepted just like the word)

EFAs cause surges in many areas -receptive, expressive, focus,

attention etc. ...or in rare cases they don't work and 'just' keep

you healthy. And I guess because you are the second who brought up

the teething aspect -we can add that to the list of early signs EFAs

are working. Anyway -below is an archive which kind of sums up the

rest.

" Believe it or not -this one is in the archives. This was considered

> yet another 'bad sign' that is really a good sign. Some children

> never fully

> go through the teething stage which is a healthy part of oral

> exploration

> important for

> developing speech.

http://www.feeding.com/images/Oral%20Exploration.PDF

Also

> you say he's only been on the EFAs for 6

> days -it would take one day to three weeks for most to see the

first

> surges.

>

> What you can do is lower or stop the ProEFA if this really bothers

> you -and

> provide a more appropriate teething material for your child to chew

> on. Gum perhaps?

>

> If not -here are some others:

> http://www.new-vis.com/fym/papers/p-feed1.htm "

Article on thumb sucking:

Thumb Plays Crucial Role in Speech

By , MAT, SLP

It's not just for gratification or pacification. There is a greater

purpose for thumb-sucking that we now know begins in the womb for

most babies, " says speech pathologist P. Streicher. " That

purpose is to integrate the bodily systems for a growth and

development pattern that conforms to the design of the human body. "

Thanks to technological advances, many mothers who were once

ridiculed for claiming they could hear their unborn babies sucking

have been vindicated. Sonograms have provided evidence that most

babies begin thumb-sucking in the womb.

Now Streicher is providing the evidence that thumb-sucking

establishes neurological pathways crucial for life's first learning

experience & #65533;feeding at the breast & #65533;and for speech and language

development.

After graduating from the University of Southern California in 1959,

Streicher entered the field of speech and hearing to search for the

cause of speech disorders. He began his career in the Torrance, CA,

school district, where he conducted a three-year study on speech

disorders, working with dentists, psychologists and other speech

pathologists. He found that the common denominator to speech, dental

and mental factors was oral habits.

In 1968 Streicher established speech therapy programs for parochial

schools in Southern California. He continued to involve dentists in

his evaluations and assessments. He expanded his practice in 1976 to

include the dental offices of Arthur Berke, DDS, a specialist in

pediatric dentistry and orthodontics. Streicher and Berke documented

oral habits and their impact on speech.

From 1982 until his retirement in 1995, Streicher conducted seminars

and training programs for dental and speech professionals. During

this time, he also continued his practice with Berke and added

services for three more Southern California communities at the

dental offices of Loomis, Yoshikawa and Jay Vorah.

Streicher spent 40 years researching and building clinical proof for

his theory that things done to the mouth habitually require the body

to adapt. He found that the body adapts by establishing reflex

patterns that redirect function and growth patterns for survival.

The body adapts to the way it is used.

Sonograms and suck marks on skin tissue show us that not all unborn

babies find the thumb. There are babies who begin sucking on other

parts, like their fingers, toes or kneecaps. Those who miss the

thumb and establish a suck pattern with another body part are not

prepared for successful feeding, according to Streicher. It takes

the correct thumb suck to establish the suck and swallow reflex

dictated by design.

Neurological patterns that do not conform to design can be

established in the womb or any time after birth. Therefore, correct

oral function can be thrown off course, causing a defective speech

pattern to develop at any age.

Most speech problems begin at a very young age for children who

acquire an oral habit. Streicher found that habits involving cloth

are the most common cause of delayed speech. Cloth literally wipes

out speech sounds. The further back in the mouth the cloth is

shoved, the more speech sounds are affected.

Examples of cloth habits include sucking on a favored baby blanket

or bedding, sucking water out of washcloths, and chewing or sucking

on clothing or a stuffed toy.

Streicher has defined oral habits as anything that goes into, up

against or around the oral structure persistently and consistently.

" We cause our bodies to alter the way they function to accommodate

our habits, " he said. " I'm talking about specific types of habits & #65533;

ones that involve incorrect use of a body part or foreign object. "

Body parts can be fingers, fingernails, toes, skin, cheeks, lips or

the tongue habitually sucked or bitten. Foreign objects often

misused in a similar fashion include cloth, jewelry, hair clips,

pens, carpenter nails and toys. The list of possibilities is

endless, and no two habits are identical. They vary as much as the

people who are born with or acquire them.

A number of cases have been documented that show how varying speech

and dental growth patterns conform to habit patterns.1 A pebble in

the shoe affects the way a person walks depending on where it is

positioned in the shoe, explained Streicher. Likewise, the position

of a body part or object in the mouth determines how we talk.

Although no two habits are the same, there are similarities.

Streicher once gathered together six children of different cultural

backgrounds for a school dentist to see. He asked the dentist if he

knew what the children's common habit was that had caused their

dental arches to widen. When the dentist was unable to identify the

habit, Streicher explained that each child sucked on four fingers.

How do four fingers holding the tongue down affect speech? Do a

little experiment. Put four fingers of one hand over your tongue and

talk. What does your speech sound like? Imagine doing this enough to

train your tongue to flatten whenever you speak. Think about nerve

integration and functions other than speech.

While engaged in habits, individuals continue to swallow, breathe

and think. Many walk, talk, play, work, and sleep while doing their

habit. Their bodies adapt, and an adjustment in coordination and

balance takes place. Bone grows in the direction muscles direct it.

Muscle function is trained by habits.

At least 85 percent of all orthodontic patients are nail-biters or

former nail-biters, Streicher found. Nail-biting trains the jaw to

function off-center and with tension and often leads to secondary

habits of gritting and grinding.

" It only takes one week of biting nails & #65533;perhaps just that first week

of kindergarten before a teacher or parents gets the child to stop & #65533;

to train a jaw shift, " stated Streicher. " The nails don't have to be

bitten to get a nail-biting pattern. It may be a habit of biting the

cuticles, cleaning the nails, or nibbling on skin tissue. "

Nail habits are performed in many ways. Some individuals bite every

nail in the same place, thereby shifting the jaw in the same

direction and bringing the same teeth edge to edge as they bite each

nail. Some bite the nails of one hand to one side and then shift to

the other side for the other hand, while others bite each nail in a

different place. The jaw shift seen in speech conforms to the habit

pattern. Streicher can visualize the pattern without seeing the

habit performed; the wear on the teeth and the jaw movement during

speech paints the picture.

The amount and direction of pressure against the teeth and dental

arches determines how they become misshapen and how teeth wear down

prematurely. For teeth to meet edge to edge in any biting habit, the

jaw is used off-center. Many individuals develop a secondary habit

of holding their jaw off-center with teeth edge to edge as they

perform various tasks or in response to mental stress.

The jaw grows in the direction it is used, Streicher discovered.

Habits that constantly position the jaw forward will grow the

individual into a dental Class III. A functional Class III describes

a jaw that moves forward frequently but is not held in the forward

position long enough to cause a structural change. Muscles holding a

jaw to one side cause the jaw and face to grow crooked.

For diagnostic purposes Streicher considers that normal growth and

balance attain symmetry. Correct facial muscle training begins in

the womb with the proper thumb suck.

" It is natural for the fetus to place a thumb in the mouth at a

particular time, " he said. " The growth and position of the fetus

allows this to happen. The design of the body allows a little elbow

to bend and a little thumb to reach the mouth. It is supposed to

happen. There is a purpose. "

Is all thumb-sucking done correctly? No. Streicher reported the case

of one child who wrapped an arm over his head and inserted his thumb

upside-down into the opposite side of his mouth.1

Some children suck their thumb to one side or turn the thumb over.

Some suck with enough force to leave thumb imprints in their palates

or to form a nail slit. Anything imaginable is possible.

The correctly positioned thumb reaches the palate without bending at

the knuckle. Fingers curl over the nose to maintain center position

for the thumb. The tongue shape and the jaw position conform to the

thumb. The front of the tongue rests against the inside lower front

arch. The remainder billows out, touching the palate without pulling

away from the floor of the mouth. When the thumb is removed, the

tongue fills in the oral cavity, resting with equal pressure against

the inner walls of the arches (and later teeth), palate and floor.

Thus, the tongue supports the dental arches and teeth from inside

the framework.

Facial muscles that are relaxed and function correctly provide equal

pressure and support from the outside. With equal pressure applied,

and no habits to create an imbalance, the result is nicely rounded

arches and aligned teeth.

" It's time to face the music, " observed Streicher. " The speech and

dental professions have been teaching the wrong tongue position. A

low success rate supports this claim as well as my claim that

current speech therapy and dental treatments address only symptoms.

Speech pathologists aim for controlling a dysfunctional pattern, and

dentists use man-made force to combat the forces of nature. "

An overview of speech and dental history explains how current

treatments have come about.1 While Streicher acknowledges that these

treatments came about because causes were unknown, he warns

professionals of the dangers of making assumptions. He credits

myofunctional therapists and orofacial myologists for the

connections they have made, but he points out what they have missed.

This month, Streicher is offering a full-day presentation at the

Annual Convention of the International Association of Orofacial

Myology (IAOM) in Detroit, MI. He will explain how causative habits

are identified and how the thumb can be used to retrain the body to

function according to design.

" I am not teaching thumb-sucking, " he said. " In fact, I use thumb

therapy to stop any suck pattern that has remained past weaning. "

At 73, Streicher is retired from clinical practice. He now writes

about his lifelong research and provides training with the help of

several therapists who have trained under him.

Reference

1. Streicher, J.P. & , K.B. (2001). The Pebble in the Shoe,

Enumclaw WA: WinePress Publishing.

, a speech-language pathologist for nearly 20 years,

was Streicher's first speech pathologist trainee in 1984. She co-

authored his book and is now preparing to publish a supplement about

the therapy and how it works for stuttering and a book on stress-

tension-pain disorders.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PS -yes gotcha on the getting rid of things

Cool!

=====

February 1, 2010

Ok, FINALLY after being on NV for 3 weeks and 3 days I have lost 3 whopping

pounds! But, believe it or not i'm not complaining. I have lost 2 or 3 inches in

my waist and some in my thighs. My size 6 jeans (very tight and

uncomfortable)are loose and i have to wear a belt. My husband actually about 10

minutes ago said " wow you look skinny? Where did it go? " Honestly I have no idea

as long a its gone.

Yes,I am eating disgustingly healthy ( about 1000 calories a day) but I still

have my glass of wine (or 2). I get my butt kicked in Pilate's 2x a week and do

30-40 minutes of cardio 2x a week.

Aside getting rid of the wine does anyone have any suggestions to get rid of the

lbs (maybe 15-20).

le

February 2, 2010

I am not sure if am replying correctly! But oh well!!

- So I give her the Nutriiveda via shake with water. I put it into the

blender, using 1/2 to 3/4 sippy cup of water and 1 scoop of NutriiVeda blend it

up to make sure it's all mixed up and give it to her. She sucks it clean, and

then I add more water to the cup. She drinks water all day when she is home,

she has lemonade at school for snack. It's mainly when I get home from work that

both my kids are crazy animals! I think it's mommy is home - COOKIE TIME!! I'm

a push over! But Adin (my little man) will stop after he gets his cookie -

REbecca is a freaking pigolla and I have to shove her out of hte kitchen! I try

and make her drink the water, but she would rather find something in the

fridge!

Behavior/frustration wise - she is doing much better in school. They are

stating no breakdowns - last week she had a few when attempting to take her to

the potty (they go at specific times to try and get the kids on a schedule).

She has ST/OT today so we will see how she does - last week she did a lot better

at private therapy as well. Again I am not sure what the cause was b/c she was

also diagnosed with an ear infection and I had her at the ENT last week and he

cleaned her ears out so she may just be feeling better overal - who knows

right...

NEVER went through her terrible 2's I remember thinking what an amazing

little girl she was b/c she never had her throw down tantrums like my other

friends kids would have.. I just figured she was just a good child! But - I

think we are making our way through the terrible 4's (2's developmentally!) and

she is doing now the things that your typical 2 year old would do. Granted out

little boy (he's 2 1/2) never really has had any oral type stuff like Becca

does. He never wanted a Paci or his thumb, he never put things in his mouth

(except now when he watches Becca do it) - not that I " m complaining, 1 child is

enough!

So I think you are right in that developmentally she is in her 2's so she is now

going through the stages that a typcial 2 year old might go through - I get

that! I just wish her therapist and others would get it too!

I do have to say that the last 2 nights i have seen more interaction with her

and Adin than I have before. In the bath the two of them are playing together

and imitating each other and just giggling and having a great time. And we were

playing hide and seek and becca totally understood what to do... She would go

with Adin while he counted (5-6, 5-6, 5-6, GOOOO) and I woudl hide and the two

of them would look for mommy... She was totally following Adin - she used to

want to be with me, or would be off banging on the wall in frustration b/c she

didn't get what she wanted... It's a lot more fun to see them playing together

- hopefully it will continue to build... Now granted she still gets to a point

where she gets pissy and starts kicking her brother and banging him over the

head (not acceptable) but that is a little of " Pay attention to me behavior, and

if you don't I'll hurt my brother " or just normal big sister beating up her baby

brother! She

feeds off of him when he yells at her and thinks it's hillarious (I don't) - so

behavior issues are still there, but not any different than a normal sibling

rivalry type situation would be...

Robin actually called me last night and made me feel a little better about what

I am seeing (or not).... Becca is more behind some of the other kids - so

obviously she is not going to just wake up one morning and say " mommy i want

pancakes! " - it will be a good 2-3 years minimum I'm sure before she has true

speach... I have to just learn to be patient and stop expecting that " Miracle " !

She wants to talk I can tell - and we will just continue to build on taht.

Cute yet sad story - my son (2 1/2) the other day in the car as becca was being

silly and making her usual goofy noises, Adin states " Becca can't talk " ... I was

trying to talk to him about it (while driving) and tell him that he needs to

help her learn how... That it's ok that she can't talk, and we will all help her

figure it out so that one day she will... Don't think he really understood it,

but i'll keep working on it! I just want to make sure that he understands it's

ok - and that if anyone is ever to make fun of his big sister that he needs to

stand up for her!

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****

now I recall who you are and OMG that's fantastic the progress you are

seeing!!! Your daughter is very similar to when she was younger right

with global delays/global apraxia? (for those that are new and don't know Mel's

story http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about )

What's going on with the brand new frustration I was so excited to hear about? I

know some days Mel now is frustrated but most days happy -how's ? Now I

understand your frustration in wanting more because Mel responded so much

quicker and in the same one week had come so far...but keep in mind that Mel is

25 and is able to be on 4 scoops a day- we don't know why that appears to make a

difference but Mel regressed on the 2 scoops a day and so did my son. So what if

it takes a few months vs a few weeks -progress is progress - even what you are

seeing so far...that's awesome -HUGE !!! Congratulations! !!