Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS.

My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge

in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound

other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a

private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a

speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P "

consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not

mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound

approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6

month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his

expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a

week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip

and tongue.

After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our

24 and ½ month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and

we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word

approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some

two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant

sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist

when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was

mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole

sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I

- wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more

spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously

and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I

am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even

sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it

has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively

and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal

diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist,

an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the

room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a

21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in

less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was

the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's

information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much

dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever "

we were doing. I believe differently of course!

I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but

he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I

do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other

than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't

enough!)

So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope

that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in

the last few weeks!

Sincerely,

IL

[Guest guest]

Oh , I am so excited for you! I already ordered NV and can't wait to start

it. Hope the we see the same marked improvement!

MO

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS.

My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge

in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound

other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a

private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a

speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P "

consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not

mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound

approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6

month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his

expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a

week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip

and tongue.

After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our

24 and ½ month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and

we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word

approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some

two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant

sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist

when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was

mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole

sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I

- wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more

spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously

and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I

am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even

sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it

has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively

and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal

diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist,

an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the

room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a

21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in

less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was

the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's

information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much

dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever "

we were doing. I believe differently of course!

I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but

he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I

do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other

than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't

enough!)

So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope

that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in

the last few weeks!

Sincerely,

IL

[Guest guest]

thank you so much for sharing this update!!! I can totally understand why

the professionals wouldn't believe the nutriiveda would have that profound of an

impact -but that's why the world needs to hear Mel's story.

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about

You see your child is still so young -so even though for all of us it's amazing

-for the average person on the street a sudden dramatic surge in speech in a

child your child's age is par for the course. The fact that it happened within

days of nutriiveda -and it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would

appear as coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because it's what we

keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and all conditions- that makes

the chance of your child's surges a " coincidence " low. We went through the same

thing with the fish oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to changes

that are so great -add to the fact that we are using this as a fund raiser and

it appears even more biased. But we never meant this to be for the kids! I

mean how many parents and professionals are in this group that want or need to

lose a few pounds??? That's why we did the http://www.nutraeasy.com page That's

who we thought our fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids! This new

" therapy " was a surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year old apraxic son

Tanner who had the same remarkable surges in all the areas I documented- and

this needs to be studied as it's remarkable- it is THAT remarkable...and

Tanner's surges were first reported to us as parents by his school professionals

who even today continue to be amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic

changes. Tanner is NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like he's

the Tanner he would have been if he was never apraxic. He's not yet 100% and I

know this is going to sound bold for me to say -but I want to for the record say

that there will be something in the nutriiveda that is found to be healing the

brain of our children. I have talked to other parents of children surging on

the nutriiveda and they agree. I'm sure you know what I mean - right?

Please let me know because I don't believe you and I have spoken (but if we did

don't feel bad I've been speaking to so many people I am losing track!!)

So yes for little ones the world won't take that seriously as it's due to the

nutriiveda. But we know from even the kids 7, 13, and 25 years old, that they

regressed within days of being off the nutriiveda -and surged again back on-

that it is not coincidence.

Wait until you read Robin's newest update for Mel -she called me the other day

that had a conversation with her that she wants to have a life like her

sisters!!! Robin told me that Mel never before talked about her frustrations.

She's TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as

mine...Robin is she now 26????

Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge in a closer to 2 year old is priceless

to the parents of that child -but yes will not be taken seriously by the media-

or by close minded professionals...but nobody can ignore when it happens again,

and again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and with various diagnosis.

But...it won't be until it's validated with research that the skeptics both in

the professionals and public will still remain. That's OK...as long as it's

approved as " benign " and parents are given the go ahead to try it- more and more

will know what some of us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle.

(and how many don't believe in them either???)

CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

=====

[Guest guest]

Thanks ! I hope you do too! Did you try my email again? If it still

doesn't work, try my work email: katie.m.stahl@...

Best Regards,

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

elizabeth7899@...

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:51 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Oh , I am so excited for you! I already ordered NV and can't wait to start

it. Hope the we see the same marked improvement!

MO

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS.

My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge

in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound

other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a

private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a

speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P "

consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not

mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound

approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6

month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his

expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a

week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip

and tongue.

After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our

24 and ½ month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and

we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word

approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some

two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant

sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist

when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was

mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole

sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I

- wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more

spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously

and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I

am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even

sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it

has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively

and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal

diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist,

an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the

room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a

21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in

less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was

the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's

information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much

dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever "

we were doing. I believe differently of course!

I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but

he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I

do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other

than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't

enough!)

So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope

that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in

the last few weeks!

Sincerely,

IL

[Guest guest]

Thanks ! No, we have not talked before. I have only been a member of the

group for a few months and this is the biggest surge we have seen. If there is

anything that I (we) can do to help get the word out or to help with the

research, let me know. Isn't it funny how people don't believe this as if we

would make something like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from once

to twice a week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two weeks) can not

account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating to me is when the people

(besides me) that are with him everyday (my husband and my mom)...still do not

believe it is the NutriiVeda. My mom who watches my boys while we work thinks

the improvements are remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the

NutriiVeda. My husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is because they

have not read the growing number of amazing testimonials (like yours and Mel's)

that I have from this group. At this point, it doesn't matter what they

think...it is working!

As a side note...my poor little guy was hit in the mouth yesterday at tumbling

and almost got his front tooth knocked out. It didn't fall out, but it is now

pushed back and he has the most swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if he

didn't have enough going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough trouble

figuring out where to put his tongue and lips to make certain sounds, but now he

has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids just can't catch a break!

Well, I hope it doesn't impede his progress.

I will keep you posted on any other improvements!

Thanks again,

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

thank you so much for sharing this update!!! I can totally understand why

the professionals wouldn't believe the nutriiveda would have that profound of an

impact -but that's why the world needs to hear Mel's story.

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about

You see your child is still so young -so even though for all of us it's amazing

-for the average person on the street a sudden dramatic surge in speech in a

child your child's age is par for the course. The fact that it happened within

days of nutriiveda -and it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would

appear as coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because it's what we keep

hearing from parents of children of all ages and all conditions- that makes the

chance of your child's surges a " coincidence " low. We went through the same

thing with the fish oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to changes

that are so great -add to the fact that we are using this as a fund raiser and

it appears even more biased. But we never meant this to be for the kids! I mean

how many parents and professionals are in this group that want or need to lose a

few pounds??? That's why we did the http://www.nutraeasy.com page That's who we

thought our fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids! This new " therapy " was a

surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year old apraxic son Tanner who had

the same remarkable surges in all the areas I documented- and this needs to be

studied as it's remarkable- it is THAT remarkable...and Tanner's surges were

first reported to us as parents by his school professionals who even today

continue to be amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic changes. Tanner is

NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like he's the Tanner he would

have been if he was never apraxic. He's not yet 100% and I know this is going to

sound bold for me to say -but I want to for the record say that there will be

something in the nutriiveda that is found to be healing the brain of our

children. I have talked to other parents of children surging on the nutriiveda

and they agree. I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please let me know

because I don't believe you and I have spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've

been speaking to so many people I am losing track!!)

So yes for little ones the world won't take that seriously as it's due to the

nutriiveda. But we know from even the kids 7, 13, and 25 years old, that they

regressed within days of being off the nutriiveda -and surged again back on-

that it is not coincidence.

Wait until you read Robin's newest update for Mel -she called me the other day

that had a conversation with her that she wants to have a life like her

sisters!!! Robin told me that Mel never before talked about her frustrations.

She's TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as

mine...Robin is she now 26????

Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge in a closer to 2 year old is priceless

to the parents of that child -but yes will not be taken seriously by the media-

or by close minded professionals...but nobody can ignore when it happens again,

and again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and with various diagnosis.

But...it won't be until it's validated with research that the skeptics both in

the professionals and public will still remain. That's OK...as long as it's

approved as " benign " and parents are given the go ahead to try it- more and more

will know what some of us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle.

(and how many don't believe in them either???)

CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

=====

[Guest guest]

,

Those improvements are wonderful!

I have a few clients on the NV & am seeing great changes as well! Yes, more

imitation of new wds, & greater length of utterance too.

The one client I am thinking of is a 3yo.

I am excited to hear about their changes too.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara A , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director, Help Me Speak, LLC

410-442-9791

RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS.

My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge

in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound

other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a

private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a

speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P "

consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not

mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound

approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6

month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his

expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a

week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip

and tongue.

After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our

24 and ½ month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and

we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word

approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some

two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant

sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist

when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was

mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole

sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I

- wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more

spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously

and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I

am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even

sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it

has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively

and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal

diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist,

an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the

room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a

21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in

less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was

the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's

information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much

dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever "

we were doing. I believe differently of course!

I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but

he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I

do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other

than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't

enough!)

So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope

that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in

the last few weeks!

Sincerely,

IL

[Guest guest]

I understand that too. It's funny with this one the Dads do appear to be

more skeptical than the Moms -at least to start. Most are believers once they

see all your husband has -but your child again is so young. Your husband

probably never quite accepted that there is anything but a speech delay going on

anyway at 25 months old -and just thinks this is good the craziness is all over

and others are seeing what he's suspected all along -that his son was just a

late talker. Am I right? And come to think of it -your mom probably falls into

that same " he is just a late talker " boat- right?

There is only one way to prove it's from the nutriiveda. Stop it. At least for

a few days. No harm in stopping it and it will be the only way to prove that

it's what made the difference. I do know with fish oils the younger the better

in helping to get the brain to rewire and it could be the same with the

nutriiveda -but still it's only been 2 weeks. If the surges you are seeing

which are so dramatic were just coincidental than certainly stopping the

nutriiveda won't make any difference.

Let us know! (and like the fish oils once you start again the surges come back

-so don't worry about that)

=====

[Guest guest]

Can anyone please check that this product does not cause yeasts flare

ups---would like to try but when you read the ingredients like selenuim yeast

and iodine yeasts  does anyone know

 

tthank you

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 2:34 PM

 

I understand that too. It's funny with this one the Dads do appear to be

more skeptical than the Moms -at least to start. Most are believers once they

see all your husband has -but your child again is so young. Your husband

probably never quite accepted that there is anything but a speech delay going on

anyway at 25 months old -and just thinks this is good the craziness is all over

and others are seeing what he's suspected all along -that his son was just a

late talker. Am I right? And come to think of it -your mom probably falls into

that same " he is just a late talker " boat- right?

There is only one way to prove it's from the nutriiveda. Stop it. At least for a

few days. No harm in stopping it and it will be the only way to prove that it's

what made the difference. I do know with fish oils the younger the better in

helping to get the brain to rewire and it could be the same with the nutriiveda

-but still it's only been 2 weeks. If the surges you are seeing which are so

dramatic were just coincidental than certainly stopping the nutriiveda won't

make any difference.

Let us know! (and like the fish oils once you start again the surges come back

-so don't worry about that)

=====

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn -we answered this before here. The yeast in the nutriiveda is

inactive/dead -only added for the nutrients.

" Checked with the manufacturer and the chromium, molybdenum, iodine, selenium,

and manganese yeast are all inactive and as I was told could be taken even by

someone who has a candida problem. They are there as a natural way to get the

nutrients chromium, molybdenum, iodine, selenium, and manganese. Hope that

helps! "

More on this here

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13047

But be open -there was a time that people thought the world was flat. It is

possible that whatever is in this product is needed by the body. Just like good

and bad fats this may be an example of good and bad yeasts. As always the proof

is in the pudding. If it's working and you are seeing all positive on it with a

" yeast flare up " but without the yeast flare up with whatever you are doing your

child is still impaired and not surging -which road do you choose?

As I joked on fb -if there 'were' active yeast in nutriiveda -it must be a

really good one!

=====

[Guest guest]

,

I am interested in trying Nutriiveda.  But unlike fishoil, this is really

something that has not been confirmed by scientific studies.

Personally, I would feel more comfortable trying this if you as the leader in

pushing for parents to try it make an official disclaimer that you have no

personal commercial interest in asking any parents to try this.

I apologize if I am not sounding diplomatic enough here. just like folks on CNBC

recommending stocks have to disclose any personal positions or interest in the

stocks.  When the investment pros make recommendations without hiding any

conflict of interest, it makes folks more willing to accept the recommendations.

Thanks,

Xun

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 6:25 PM

 

Hi Carolyn -we answered this before here. The yeast in the nutriiveda is

inactive/dead -only added for the nutrients.

" Checked with the manufacturer and the chromium, molybdenum, iodine, selenium,

and manganese yeast are all inactive and as I was told could be taken even by

someone who has a candida problem. They are there as a natural way to get the

nutrients chromium, molybdenum, iodine, selenium, and manganese. Hope that

helps! "

More on this here

http://www.facebook .com/topic. php?uid=11502973 5601 & topic= 13047

But be open -there was a time that people thought the world was flat. It is

possible that whatever is in this product is needed by the body. Just like good

and bad fats this may be an example of good and bad yeasts. As always the proof

is in the pudding. If it's working and you are seeing all positive on it with a

" yeast flare up " but without the yeast flare up with whatever you are doing your

child is still impaired and not surging -which road do you choose?

As I joked on fb -if there 'were' active yeast in nutriiveda -it must be a

really good one!

=====

[Guest guest]

Also, .

My wife just took my son to CHOP autism center this a.m. and we asked about

Nutrriveda and the Dr's response is that she has never heard about it.  I know

that you quoted a CHOP study below that supports the use of Nutrriveda below. 

My daughter has an appointment with CHOP autism center later on.  How shall we

ask the right question about Nutriiveda to get them on board for this?

http://www.sflorg.com/comm_center/medical/p974_99.html

Thx,

Xun

[Guest guest]

Hi Xun!

Actually that's a theory of mine amongst others that the essential amino acids

could be the reason that the nutriiveda is working -and this study

http://www.sflorg.com/comm_center/medical/p974_99.html supports that. But I

never said that they used or supported nutriiveda in the study!!! -is that what

you thought? This is so new I'd be shocked if they did hear about it, and if

they did it would be through someone in this group as I am the one that

discovered it!!! -and while I have thought of contacting various doctors who may

want to research this -I've already spoken to the company and know that research

would be done by the doctors that formulated it including of course Dr. Chopra

and Dr. Simon. And who better than them? But it's all so new -but benign.

There is nothing in the nutriiveda that is not classified as a food -so as far

as you saying you wouldn't use it without clinical science to back it up -it

would similar to saying you didn't want to give your child a cheeseburger

without scientific research to support it (that there may be however -and there

will be research for nutriiveda and our children I'm sure about it -but may take

a few years) There are in fact 300 studies behind the importance of the

ingredients in the nutriiveda and they are in the process of human clinical

studies now on the actual product -but again it's benign from all I have read

anyway. This is so like the original messages I got about fish oil...and don't

you use fish oils now???

If your doctors from CHOP DON'T approve nutriiveda than I want to speak with

them. That's just crazy based on their research -it wouldn't make sense. To me

from your first message especially I didn't even think you were looking to try

it -perhaps they didn't either. Again it's all food classified and it's

providing a diet rich in essential amino acids amongst everything else. You may

have put them off if you stated that I said they recommended nutriiveda which is

putting words in my mouth Xun. If you go back and read what I wrote here

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13047 you'll see that

I'm thinking outloud of why this may be working so quickly and finding their

study supports one theory.

As far as what to say to get your doctors on board -I don't believe any of us

have found that to be hard if you ask and share the info. I'd share the

information from the links I've posted on fb here (which includes their study

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13047

You can share this as well:

Anecdotal reports of the Cherab Foundation are coming in from the United States

as well as other countries that children with autism, apraxia and other speech

impairments, ADHD, TBI, seizure disorders, and global delays are seeing surges

in the following areas in most cases within just a few days:

SPEECH articulation, complexity and sophistication of sentence structure

LANGUAGE better understanding of written and spoken word, development of better

reading and writing skills

ACADEMICS/LEARNING reported surges in all areas of school

FINE AND GROSS MOTOR SKILLS also multi tasking

SENSE OF HUMOR both catching subtle humor and wanting to make others

laugh-joking around

AWARENESS OF SURROUNDINGS (for autism) reported following gaze and

moreinteractions

FACIAL EXPRESSIONS (for those with oral apraxia) instead of blank stares when

not engaged in conversation (non verbal expressions)

FOCUS on task, more willing to listen and try

MULTI TASKING (for apraxia as this is something typically not done or done well)

SOCIAL wanting to participate with others via play and communication

MOOD reported seems " happier " for a number

DEVELOPMENTAL CATCHING UP for those that never went through stages -reportedly

going through them for the first time.

DECREASE IN SEIZURES so far in one case elimination of any seizures and

headaches and decrease in seizure meds as well

As far as full disclosure -as we have up on the website Zrii is a direct sales

company and one of our grandparents who has made millions in the past few years

got Cherab involved to help us raise monies for PUFA research (which I would be

happy to in private share the details with anyone willing to help fund it but we

need to keep the " parents from blogging about it " for credibility reasons) You

can read about that at http://www.pursuitofresearch.org under apraxia research.

Or even more commercial I've posted http://www.nutraeasy.com I don't know how

much more full disclosure you need? I mean I do understand the skepticism =my

son is one of the ones that has had a dramatic surge in multiple areas and it is

hard to believe this all happened this quick for even me. And how do you think

Robin and her family feels about Mel's continued surges across the board as

well?? http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about

Point is you can try it -you'll know within days- and if you don't see anything

which most clearly do -then get your money back. If it's approved by your

doctors than that's all that matters. But if you check this group so far I

believe it's only one doctor's group that didn't approve it -but that was a

group that diagnosed a child that was diagnosed apraxic by an SLP as " PDD NOS "

-so clearly gave the child a diagnosis name that won't help secure any specific

appropriate therapy -useless.

One thing that does shock me is that we are reading testimony after testimony

and instead of you writing " the testimonies are incredible but.... " to at least

acknowledge them -you don't mention any of them. I mean I've run this group for

over ten years and have never seen a product have this positive a reaction from

this many people. The only negative is from people that have not used it. You

posted this on top of 's amazing update no matter what the reason for her

son's amazing surges in ....TWO WEEKS!!!!!!!! Sounds like a reason to say

CONGRATULATIONS to me Hope this cleared it all up for you! (I'll include

's update below again in case you missed it)

=====

[Guest guest]

Xun,

I am sure will not mind if I answer your concern.

I agree and do respect your concerns about Nutriiveda and the lack of research

for kids like ours. But I am from India and each ingredient is something we use

in food daily.

It's a very new product which was basically introduced for natural weight

management and has been endorsed by the Chopra Center. It so happens that

somehow the ingredients in it has been helping lots of our kids [the number of

inputs coming from parents proves it]. Just like fish oil we as parents are

finding that nurtiiveda is bringing surges in language, fine motor ability,

focus and in many other areas.

has been very open about the fact that she tried it for her son Tanner to

reduce his weight….

But on her journey in helping out her son she discovered that this was making

Tanner' speech clearer and noticed his improving focus. She was contacted by

the professionals at her son's school who noticed the improvements. She

couldn't hide her excitement about all the good reports she was getting from her

son's school above all from the school Principal itself. Robin has been

graciously shelling out time to tell about how her 26 year old daughter

's life has drastically changed for the better since adding nutriiveda in

the last 2 months!!! Seeing so much positive improvements decided to

share the news with the rest of us…..

I am glad SHE DID!!!!

has also been open about the fact that she is trying to raise money for the

PUFA research to help kids with apraxia. She has openly said that her venture

into nutriiveda started of as a fundraiser…but the more she found great reports

on Tanner she as a parent was eager to tell that to all of us, keeping in mind

that it will help other kids.

has already mentioned numerous number of times that ordering through

http://www.pursuitofresearch.org will help with the research. If you are not

comfortable, you can always pay more and order from chopra.com.

To try or not to try is an individual decision.

sowmya

>

> > >

>

> > > Thanks ! No, we have not talked before. I have only been a member of

the group for a few months and this is the biggest surge we have seen. If there

is anything that I (we) can do to help get the word out or to help with the

research, let me know. Isn't it funny how people don't believe this as if we

would make something like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from once

to twice a week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two weeks) can not

account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating to me is when the people

(besides me) that are with him everyday (my husband and my mom)...still do not

believe it is the NutriiVeda. My mom who watches my boys while we work thinks

the improvements are remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the

NutriiVeda. My husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is because they

have not read the growing number of amazing testimonials (like yours and Mel's)

that I have from this group. At

> this

>

> > point, it doesn't matter what they think...it is working!

>

> > >

>

> > > As a side note...my poor little guy was hit in the mouth yesterday at

tumbling and almost got his front tooth knocked out. It didn't fall out, but it

is now pushed back and he has the most swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if

he didn't have enough going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough trouble

figuring out where to put his tongue and lips to make certain sounds, but now he

has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids just can't catch a break!

Well, I hope it doesn't impede his progress.

>

> > >

>

> > > I will keep you posted on any other improvements!

>

> > >

>

> > > Thanks again,

>

> > >

>

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > From: @groups. com [mailto:childrensap raxianet

@groups. com] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

>

> > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13 PM

>

> > > @groups. com

>

> > > Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > thank you so much for sharing this update!!! I can totally

understand why the professionals wouldn't believe the nutriiveda would have that

profound of an impact -but that's why the world needs to hear Mel's story.

http://littlemermai dmelanie. wordpress. com/about

>

> > >

>

> > > You see your child is still so young -so even though for all of us it's

amazing -for the average person on the street a sudden dramatic surge in speech

in a child your child's age is par for the course. The fact that it happened

within days of nutriiveda -and it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge

would appear as coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because it's what

we keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and all conditions- that

makes the chance of your child's surges a " coincidence " low. We went through the

same thing with the fish oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to

changes that are so great -add to the fact that we are using this as a fund

raiser and it appears even more biased. But we never meant this to be for the

kids! I mean how many parents and professionals are in this group that want or

need to lose a few pounds??? That's why we did the http://www.nutraeas y.com

page That's who we thought our

>

> > fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids! This new " therapy " was a

surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year old apraxic son Tanner who had

the same remarkable surges in all the areas I documented- and this needs to be

studied as it's remarkable- it is THAT remarkable.. .and Tanner's surges were

first reported to us as parents by his school professionals who even today

continue to be amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic changes. Tanner is

NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like he's the Tanner he would

have been if he was never apraxic. He's not yet 100% and I know this is going to

sound bold for me to say -but I want to for the record say that there will be

something in the nutriiveda that is found to be healing the brain of our

children. I have talked to other parents of children surging on the nutriiveda

and they agree. I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please let me know

because I don't believe you and I

> have

>

> > spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've been speaking to so many people I

am losing track!!)

>

> > >

>

> > > So yes for little ones the world won't take that seriously as it's due to

the nutriiveda. But we know from even the kids 7, 13, and 25 years old, that

they regressed within days of being off the nutriiveda -and surged again back

on- that it is not coincidence.

>

> > >

>

> > > Wait until you read Robin's newest update for Mel -she called me the other

day that had a conversation with her that she wants to have a life like

her sisters!!! Robin told me that Mel never before talked about her

frustrations. She's TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same

day as mine...Robin is she now 26????

>

> > >

>

> > > Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge in a closer to 2 year old is

priceless to the parents of that child -but yes will not be taken seriously by

the media- or by close minded professionals. ..but nobody can ignore when it

happens again, and again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and with

various diagnosis. But...it won't be until it's validated with research that the

skeptics both in the professionals and public will still remain. That's OK...as

long as it's approved as " benign " and parents are given the go ahead to try it-

more and more will know what some of us are living....for lack of better words

-a miracle. (and how many don't believe in them either???)

>

> > >

>

> > > CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

>

> > >

>

> > > =====

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

You must be a very proud MOM!!!

To see the jump from 12 month to 21 month level in less than a month....really

amazing!!!

My therapists are blown away by my son' requests, great focus and good

eye-contact!!!

Hope your little guy gets better...and we hear more great news.

sowmya

>

> Thanks ! No, we have not talked before. I have only been a member of the

group for a few months and this is the biggest surge we have seen. If there is

anything that I (we) can do to help get the word out or to help with the

research, let me know. Isn't it funny how people don't believe this as if we

would make something like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from once

to twice a week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two weeks) can not

account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating to me is when the people

(besides me) that are with him everyday (my husband and my mom)...still do not

believe it is the NutriiVeda. My mom who watches my boys while we work thinks

the improvements are remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the

NutriiVeda. My husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is because they

have not read the growing number of amazing testimonials (like yours and Mel's)

that I have from this group. At this point, it doesn't matter what they

think...it is working!

>

> As a side note...my poor little guy was hit in the mouth yesterday at tumbling

and almost got his front tooth knocked out. It didn't fall out, but it is now

pushed back and he has the most swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if he

didn't have enough going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough trouble

figuring out where to put his tongue and lips to make certain sounds, but now he

has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids just can't catch a break!

Well, I hope it doesn't impede his progress.

>

> I will keep you posted on any other improvements!

>

> Thanks again,

>

> ________________________________

> From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

>

>

>

> thank you so much for sharing this update!!! I can totally understand

why the professionals wouldn't believe the nutriiveda would have that profound

of an impact -but that's why the world needs to hear Mel's story.

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about

>

> You see your child is still so young -so even though for all of us it's

amazing -for the average person on the street a sudden dramatic surge in speech

in a child your child's age is par for the course. The fact that it happened

within days of nutriiveda -and it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge

would appear as coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because it's what

we keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and all conditions- that

makes the chance of your child's surges a " coincidence " low. We went through the

same thing with the fish oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to

changes that are so great -add to the fact that we are using this as a fund

raiser and it appears even more biased. But we never meant this to be for the

kids! I mean how many parents and professionals are in this group that want or

need to lose a few pounds??? That's why we did the http://www.nutraeasy.com page

That's who we thought our fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids! This new

" therapy " was a surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year old apraxic son

Tanner who had the same remarkable surges in all the areas I documented- and

this needs to be studied as it's remarkable- it is THAT remarkable...and

Tanner's surges were first reported to us as parents by his school professionals

who even today continue to be amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic

changes. Tanner is NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like he's the

Tanner he would have been if he was never apraxic. He's not yet 100% and I know

this is going to sound bold for me to say -but I want to for the record say that

there will be something in the nutriiveda that is found to be healing the brain

of our children. I have talked to other parents of children surging on the

nutriiveda and they agree. I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please

let me know because I don't believe you and I have spoken (but if we did don't

feel bad I've been speaking to so many people I am losing track!!)

>

> So yes for little ones the world won't take that seriously as it's due to the

nutriiveda. But we know from even the kids 7, 13, and 25 years old, that they

regressed within days of being off the nutriiveda -and surged again back on-

that it is not coincidence.

>

> Wait until you read Robin's newest update for Mel -she called me the other day

that had a conversation with her that she wants to have a life like her

sisters!!! Robin told me that Mel never before talked about her frustrations.

She's TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as

mine...Robin is she now 26????

>

> Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge in a closer to 2 year old is priceless

to the parents of that child -but yes will not be taken seriously by the media-

or by close minded professionals...but nobody can ignore when it happens again,

and again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and with various diagnosis.

But...it won't be until it's validated with research that the skeptics both in

the professionals and public will still remain. That's OK...as long as it's

approved as " benign " and parents are given the go ahead to try it- more and more

will know what some of us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle.

(and how many don't believe in them either???)

>

> CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

,

Wow what an amazing update! I remember those test when was

young and how heartbreaking they were for us to hear. I can only

imagine how you felt after receiving the news he went from 12 months

to 21 months level in less than a month!

Please keep us posted.

Thanks,

Robin

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:03 PM, sow wrote:

> ,

> You must be a very proud MOM!!!

> To see the jump from 12 month to 21 month level in less than a

> month....really amazing!!!

> My therapists are blown away by my son' requests, great focus and

> good eye-contact!!!

> Hope your little guy gets better...and we hear more great news.

> sowmya

>

>

> >

> > Thanks ! No, we have not talked before. I have only been a

> member of the group for a few months and this is the biggest surge

> we have seen. If there is anything that I (we) can do to help get

> the word out or to help with the research, let me know. Isn't it

> funny how people don't believe this as if we would make something

> like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from once to twice a

> week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two weeks) can not

> account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating to me is when

> the people (besides me) that are with him everyday (my husband and

> my mom)...still do not believe it is the NutriiVeda. My mom who

> watches my boys while we work thinks the improvements are

> remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the NutriiVeda. My

> husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is because they have

> not read the growing number of amazing testimonials (like yours and

> Mel's) that I have from this group. At this point, it doesn't matter

> what they think...it is working!

> >

> > As a side note...my poor little guy was hit in the mouth yesterday

> at tumbling and almost got his front tooth knocked out. It didn't

> fall out, but it is now pushed back and he has the most swollen

> upper lip I have ever seen. As if he didn't have enough going on in

> his mouth and he didn't have enough trouble figuring out where to

> put his tongue and lips to make certain sounds, but now he has this

> too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids just can't catch a

> break! Well, I hope it doesn't impede his progress.

> >

> > I will keep you posted on any other improvements!

> >

> > Thanks again,

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From:

[mailto:

> ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

> > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13 PM

> >

> > Subject: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda

> update

> >

> >

> >

> > thank you so much for sharing this update!!! I can totally

> understand why the professionals wouldn't believe the nutriiveda

> would have that profound of an impact -but that's why the world

> needs to hear Mel's story. http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about

> >

> > You see your child is still so young -so even though for all of us

> it's amazing -for the average person on the street a sudden dramatic

> surge in speech in a child your child's age is par for the course.

> The fact that it happened within days of nutriiveda -and it's only

> been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would appear as coincidental.

> The reason it is remarkable is because it's what we keep hearing

> from parents of children of all ages and all conditions- that makes

> the chance of your child's surges a " coincidence " low. We went

> through the same thing with the fish oils. It's hard to credit

> something so simple to changes that are so great -add to the fact

> that we are using this as a fund raiser and it appears even more

> biased. But we never meant this to be for the kids! I mean how many

> parents and professionals are in this group that want or need to

> lose a few pounds??? That's why we did the http://www.nutraeasy.com

> page That's who we thought our fundraiser could be for -us -not our

> kids! This new " therapy " was a surprise side benefit I discovered in

> my 13 year old apraxic son Tanner who had the same remarkable surges

> in all the areas I documented- and this needs to be studied as it's

> remarkable- it is THAT remarkable...and Tanner's surges were first

> reported to us as parents by his school professionals who even today

> continue to be amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic

> changes. Tanner is NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's

> like he's the Tanner he would have been if he was never apraxic.

> He's not yet 100% and I know this is going to sound bold for me to

> say -but I want to for the record say that there will be something

> in the nutriiveda that is found to be healing the brain of our

> children. I have talked to other parents of children surging on the

> nutriiveda and they agree. I'm sure you know what I mean -

> right? Please let me know because I don't believe you and I have

> spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've been speaking to so many

> people I am losing track!!)

> >

> > So yes for little ones the world won't take that seriously as it's

> due to the nutriiveda. But we know from even the kids 7, 13, and 25

> years old, that they regressed within days of being off the

> nutriiveda -and surged again back on- that it is not coincidence.

> >

> > Wait until you read Robin's newest update for Mel -she called me

> the other day that had a conversation with her that she

> wants to have a life like her sisters!!! Robin told me that Mel

> never before talked about her frustrations. She's TWENTY FIVE YEARS

> OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as mine...Robin is she

> now 26????

> >

> > Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge in a closer to 2 year old

> is priceless to the parents of that child -but yes will not be taken

> seriously by the media- or by close minded professionals...but

> nobody can ignore when it happens again, and again, and again...and

> in " children " of all ages and with various diagnosis. But...it won't

> be until it's validated with research that the skeptics both in the

> professionals and public will still remain. That's OK...as long as

> it's approved as " benign " and parents are given the go ahead to try

> it- more and more will know what some of us are living....for lack

> of better words -a miracle. (and how many don't believe in them

> either???)

> >

> > CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

> >

> > =====

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Xun,

When shared the Nutriiveda with me, I never felt like she was

pushing Nutriiveda for her own personal gain. Never once did I have

that thought. My first impression is that she was only trying to help

when everyone else had given up. did explain to me

about her research project with regards to fish oil but that

conversation was brief as she was more interested in the possible

benefits the Nutriiveda would have for . and I have been

friends for over 10 years and has always tried to help me with

. I tried Nutriiveda for for the weight loss as

needed to loose her extra weight from her seizure medication.

We did not expect to see anything else from Nutriiveda as everything

else we tried never worked for . Because of Nutriiveda

is now PTSD and Seizure free, better speech and motor planning, lost 15 pounds,

and for the first time in many years finally enjoying life!! You can read Mel's

blog for all the changes and I'll be updating it later

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about If you

would speak with personally you will discover that her heart is

in the right place. is trying to help all of us help our children.

Robin

> Xun,

> I am sure will not mind if I answer your concern.

> I agree and do respect your concerns about Nutriiveda and the lack

> of research for kids like ours. But I am from India and each

> ingredient is something we use in food daily.

>

> It's a very new product which was basically introduced for natural

> weight management and has been endorsed by the Chopra Center. It so

> happens that somehow the ingredients in it has been helping lots of

> our kids [the number of inputs coming from parents proves it]. Just

> like fish oil we as parents are finding that nurtiiveda is bringing

> surges in language, fine motor ability, focus and in many other areas.

>

> has been very open about the fact that she tried it for her son

> Tanner to reduce his weight….

> But on her journey in helping out her son she discovered that this

> was making Tanner' speech clearer and noticed his improving focus.

> She was contacted by the professionals at her son's school who

> noticed the improvements. She couldn't hide her excitement about all

> the good reports she was getting from her son's school above all

> from the school Principal itself. Robin has been graciously shelling

> out time to tell about how her 26 year old daughter 's life

> has drastically changed for the better since adding nutriiveda in

> the last 2 months!!! Seeing so much positive improvements

> decided to share the news with the rest of us…..

>

> I am glad SHE DID!!!!

>

> has also been open about the fact that she is trying to raise

> money for the PUFA research to help kids with apraxia. She has

> openly said that her venture into nutriiveda started of as a

> fundraiser…but the more she found great reports on Tanner she as a

> parent was eager to tell that to all of us, keeping in mind that it

> will help other kids.

>

> has already mentioned numerous number of times that ordering

> through http://www.pursuitofresearch.org will help with the

> research. If you are not comfortable, you can always pay more and

> order from chopra.com.

>

> To try or not to try is an individual decision.

>

> sowmya

>

>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Thanks ! No, we have not talked before. I have only been a

> member of the group for a few months and this is the biggest surge

> we have seen. If there is anything that I (we) can do to help get

> the word out or to help with the research, let me know. Isn't it

> funny how people don't believe this as if we would make something

> like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from once to twice a

> week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two weeks) can not

> account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating to me is when

> the people (besides me) that are with him everyday (my husband and

> my mom)...still do not believe it is the NutriiVeda. My mom who

> watches my boys while we work thinks the improvements are

> remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the NutriiVeda. My

> husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is because they have

> not read the growing number of amazing testimonials (like yours and

> Mel's) that I have from this group. At

> > this

> >

> > > point, it doesn't matter what they think...it is working!

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > As a side note...my poor little guy was hit in the mouth

> yesterday at tumbling and almost got his front tooth knocked out. It

> didn't fall out, but it is now pushed back and he has the most

> swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if he didn't have enough

> going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough trouble figuring out

> where to put his tongue and lips to make certain sounds, but now he

> has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids just can't

> catch a break! Well, I hope it doesn't impede his progress.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > I will keep you posted on any other improvements!

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Thanks again,

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >

> > > > From: @groups. com

> [mailto:childrensap raxianet @groups. com] On Behalf Of

> kiddietalk

> >

> > > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13 PM

> >

> > > > @groups. com

> >

> > > > Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: 25month old son on

> NutriiVeda update

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > thank you so much for sharing this update!!! I can

> totally understand why the professionals wouldn't believe the

> nutriiveda would have that profound of an impact -but that's why the

> world needs to hear Mel's story. http://littlemermai dmelanie.

> wordpress. com/about

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > You see your child is still so young -so even though for all

> of us it's amazing -for the average person on the street a sudden

> dramatic surge in speech in a child your child's age is par for the

> course. The fact that it happened within days of nutriiveda -and

> it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would appear as

> coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because it's what we

> keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and all

> conditions- that makes the chance of your child's surges a

> " coincidence " low. We went through the same thing with the fish

> oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to changes that are so

> great -add to the fact that we are using this as a fund raiser and

> it appears even more biased. But we never meant this to be for the

> kids! I mean how many parents and professionals are in this group

> that want or need to lose a few pounds??? That's why we did the

http://www.nutraeas

> y.com page That's who we thought our

> >

> > > fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids! This new " therapy "

> was a surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year old apraxic

> son Tanner who had the same remarkable surges in all the areas I

> documented- and this needs to be studied as it's remarkable- it is

> THAT remarkable.. .and Tanner's surges were first reported to us as

> parents by his school professionals who even today continue to be

> amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic changes. Tanner is

> NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like he's the Tanner

> he would have been if he was never apraxic. He's not yet 100% and I

> know this is going to sound bold for me to say -but I want to for

> the record say that there will be something in the nutriiveda that

> is found to be healing the brain of our children. I have talked to

> other parents of children surging on the nutriiveda and they agree.

> I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please let me know

> because I don't believe you and I

> > have

> >

> > > spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've been speaking to so

> many people I am losing track!!)

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > So yes for little ones the world won't take that seriously as

> it's due to the nutriiveda. But we know from even the kids 7, 13,

> and 25 years old, that they regressed within days of being off the

> nutriiveda -and surged again back on- that it is not coincidence.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Wait until you read Robin's newest update for Mel -she called

> me the other day that had a conversation with her that she

> wants to have a life like her sisters!!! Robin told me that Mel

> never before talked about her frustrations. She's TWENTY FIVE YEARS

> OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as mine...Robin is she

> now 26????

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge in a closer to 2 year

> old is priceless to the parents of that child -but yes will not be

> taken seriously by the media- or by close minded

> professionals. ..but nobody can ignore when it happens again, and

> again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and with various

> diagnosis. But...it won't be until it's validated with research that

> the skeptics both in the professionals and public will still remain.

> That's OK...as long as it's approved as " benign " and parents are

> given the go ahead to try it- more and more will know what some of

> us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle. (and how many

> don't believe in them either???)

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > =====

> >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Robin,

I have been on the board for a while. Even if I do not know on a personal

basis as you do, I have read her book, bought fish oil from her and took her

advice for taking my kids to see Dr. Jonas.

I just thought that it would be easier for all the parents who do not know her

as well as you do to have a higher comfort level to trust the good news on

Nutriiveda that we have heard on this board for speech. I am ethnic Chinese and

unlike my wife, am familiar and have faith in alternative treatment including

fish oils and DAN doctors supplements and protocols. The CHOP autism Dr. that

my wife and son saw yesterday was Dr Mariko Nakashimi. She is ethnic Japanese.

If any mainstream Dr. would give some thought to alternative treatment, you

would expect those with Asian background, in addition to DAN doctors. But all

she is willing to endorse and support is fish oil and nothing else. She has

never heard about Nutrriveda. I am also curious why no DAN doctors have jumped

on the Nutriiveda wagon.

That is why I asked to make clear disclosure about any personal interest

and assure parents that indeed our children's need is the primary objective for

the enthusiasm not any commercial interest.

Xun

> From: Robin Ketchem <rcketchem@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 7:00 AM

> Hi Xun,

>

> When shared the Nutriiveda with me, I never felt like

> she was 

> pushing Nutriiveda for her own personal gain.  Never

> once did I have 

> that thought.  My first impression is that she was

> only trying to help 

> when everyone else had given

> up.    did explain to me 

> about her research project with regards to fish oil but

> that 

> conversation was brief as she was more interested in the

> possible   

> benefits the Nutriiveda would  have for . 

> and I have been 

> friends for over 10 years and has always tried to help

> me with 

> .  I tried Nutriiveda for for the

> weight loss as 

> needed to loose her extra weight from her seizure

> medication.   

> We did not expect to see anything else from Nutriiveda as

> everything 

> else we tried never worked for .  Because of

> Nutriiveda  

> is now PTSD and Seizure free, better speech and motor

> planning, lost 15 pounds, 

> and for the first time in many years finally enjoying

> life!!  You can read Mel's blog for all the changes and

> I'll be updating it later http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about 

> If you 

> would speak with personally you will discover that her

> heart is 

> in the right place.  is trying to help all of us

> help our children.

>

> Robin

>

>

>

>

>

> > Xun,

> > I am sure will not mind if I answer your

> concern.

> > I agree and do respect your concerns about Nutriiveda

> and the lack 

> > of research for kids like ours. But I am from India

> and each 

> > ingredient is something we use in food daily.

> >

> > It's a very new product which was basically introduced

> for natural 

> > weight management and has been endorsed by the Chopra

> Center. It so 

> > happens that somehow the ingredients in it has been

> helping lots of 

> > our kids [the number of inputs coming from parents

> proves it]. Just 

> > like fish oil we as parents are finding that

> nurtiiveda is bringing 

> > surges in language, fine motor ability, focus and in

> many other areas.

> >

> > has been very open about the fact that she tried

> it for her son 

> > Tanner to reduce his weight….

> > But on her journey in helping out her son she

> discovered that this 

> > was making Tanner' speech clearer and noticed his

> improving focus. 

> > She was contacted by the professionals at her son's

> school who 

> > noticed the improvements. She couldn't hide her

> excitement about all 

> > the good reports she was getting from her son's school

> above all 

> > from the school Principal itself. Robin has been

> graciously shelling 

> > out time to tell about how her 26 year old daughter

> 's life 

> > has drastically changed for the better since adding

> nutriiveda in 

> > the last 2 months!!! Seeing so much positive

> improvements  

> > decided to share the news with the rest of us…..

> >

> > I am glad SHE DID!!!!

> >

> > has also been open about the fact that she is

> trying to raise 

> > money for the PUFA research to help kids with apraxia.

> She has 

> > openly said that her venture into nutriiveda started

> of as a 

> > fundraiser…but the more she found great reports on

> Tanner she as a 

> > parent was eager to tell that to all of us, keeping in

> mind that it 

> > will help other kids.

> >

> > has already mentioned numerous number of times

> that ordering 

> > through http://www.pursuitofresearch.org will

> help with the 

> > research. If you are not comfortable, you can always

> pay more and 

> > order from chopra.com.

> >

> > To try or not to try is an individual decision.

> >

> > sowmya

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Thanks ! No, we have not talked

> before. I have only been a 

> > member of the group for a few months and this is the

> biggest surge 

> > we have seen. If there is anything that I (we) can do

> to help get 

> > the word out or to help with the research, let me

> know. Isn't it 

> > funny how people don't believe this as if we would

> make something 

> > like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from

> once to twice a 

> > week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two

> weeks) can not 

> > account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating

> to me is when 

> > the people (besides me) that are with him everyday (my

> husband and 

> > my mom)...still do not believe it is the NutriiVeda.

> My mom who 

> > watches my boys while we work thinks the improvements

> are 

> > remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the

> NutriiVeda. My 

> > husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is

> because they have 

> > not read the growing number of amazing testimonials

> (like yours and 

> > Mel's) that I have from this group. At

> > > this

> > >

> > > > point, it doesn't matter what they

> think...it is working!

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > As a side note...my poor little guy was

> hit in the mouth 

> > yesterday at tumbling and almost got his front tooth

> knocked out. It 

> > didn't fall out, but it is now pushed back and he has

> the most 

> > swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if he didn't

> have enough 

> > going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough

> trouble figuring out 

> > where to put his tongue and lips to make certain

> sounds, but now he 

> > has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids

> just can't 

> > catch a break! Well, I hope it doesn't impede his

> progress.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > I will keep you posted on any other

> improvements!

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Thanks again,

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > >

> > > > > From: @groups.

> com 

> > [mailto:childrensap raxianet @groups. com] On

> Behalf Of 

> > kiddietalk

> > >

> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13

> PM

> > >

> > > > > @groups.

> com

> > >

> > > > > Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re:

> 25month old son on 

> > NutriiVeda update

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > thank you so much for sharing

> this update!!! I can 

> > totally understand why the professionals wouldn't

> believe the 

> > nutriiveda would have that profound of an impact -but

> that's why the 

> > world needs to hear Mel's story. http://littlemermai dmelanie. 

> > wordpress. com/about

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > You see your child is still so young

> -so even though for all 

> > of us it's amazing -for the average person on the

> street a sudden 

> > dramatic surge in speech in a child your child's age

> is par for the 

> > course. The fact that it happened within days of

> nutriiveda -and 

> > it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would

> appear as 

> > coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because

> it's what we 

> > keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and

> all 

> > conditions- that makes the chance of your child's

> surges a 

> > " coincidence " low. We went through the same thing with

> the fish 

> > oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to

> changes that are so 

> > great -add to the fact that we are using this as a

> fund raiser and 

> > it appears even more biased. But we never meant this

> to be for the 

> > kids! I mean how many parents and professionals are in

> this group 

> > that want or need to lose a few pounds??? That's why

> we did the http://www.nutraeas

> >  y.com page That's who we thought our

> > >

> > > > fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids!

> This new " therapy "  

> > was a surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year

> old apraxic 

> > son Tanner who had the same remarkable surges in all

> the areas I 

> > documented- and this needs to be studied as it's

> remarkable- it is 

> > THAT remarkable.. .and Tanner's surges were first

> reported to us as 

> > parents by his school professionals who even today

> continue to be 

> > amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic

> changes. Tanner is 

> > NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like

> he's the Tanner 

> > he would have been if he was never apraxic. He's not

> yet 100% and I 

> > know this is going to sound bold for me to say -but I

> want to for 

> > the record say that there will be something in the

> nutriiveda that 

> > is found to be healing the brain of our children. I

> have talked to 

> > other parents of children surging on the nutriiveda

> and they agree. 

> > I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please let

> me know 

> > because I don't believe you and I

> > > have

> > >

> > > > spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've

> been speaking to so 

> > many people I am losing track!!)

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > So yes for little ones the world won't

> take that seriously as 

> > it's due to the nutriiveda. But we know from even the

> kids 7, 13, 

> > and 25 years old, that they regressed within days of

> being off the 

> > nutriiveda -and surged again back on- that it is not

> coincidence.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Wait until you read Robin's newest

> update for Mel -she called 

> > me the other day that had a conversation with

> her that she 

> > wants to have a life like her sisters!!! Robin told me

> that Mel 

> > never before talked about her frustrations. She's

> TWENTY FIVE YEARS 

> > OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as

> mine...Robin is she 

> > now 26????

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge

> in a closer to 2 year 

> > old is priceless to the parents of that child -but yes

> will not be 

> > taken seriously by the media- or by close minded 

>

> > professionals. ..but nobody can ignore when it happens

> again, and 

> > again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and

> with various 

> > diagnosis. But...it won't be until it's validated with

> research that 

> > the skeptics both in the professionals and public will

> still remain. 

> > That's OK...as long as it's approved as " benign " and

> parents are 

> > given the go ahead to try it- more and more will know

> what some of 

> > us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle.

> (and how many 

> > don't believe in them either???)

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > =====

> > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Xun I'm thinking of trying the nutreveda and have been part of this group for

two years but I'm confused by your messages so please don't speak for me. Why

shouldn't a parent be excited about her son when he has surges and she shares it

here? I am not as quick as some here to do all the different therapies like

home shots and I don't even really know what a dan doctor is. My pediatrician

said it is OK for us to use nutreveda and if it wasn't for this group I wouldn't

have known about which fish oils either. I appreciate all I learn here from

those who share helpful information.

And just wanted to say thank you for sharing your son's update. I hope we

see the same surges and I am so happy for you! Kate

[Guest guest]

Xun,

told in her previous message addressed to you that she was the one who

shared it with Robin first. She's the first to mention it to anyone.

She has repeatedly mentioned that nurtiiveda had been launched just a few months

ago as a metabolic weight management product formulated and endorsed by the

Chopra Center.

She got highly enthusiastic when GREAT reports started coming out about her own

son especially the Principal calling her up to ask about what she was doing

differently with Tanner!

Her enthusiasm over the nutriiveda made her to call Robin in November to help

her out with her 25 year old daughter, at that point she didn't share it here.

Well also had incredible surges on the nutriiveda as you can read at her

blog here http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about…and the rest is

history. Why wouldn't she share it here at that point? I'm thankful she did as

my son responded to it. Just like fish oil she wanted to share her enthusiasm

to tell about nutriiveda so that it will help our kids.

I think you are missing the point that it's just been a month that many of us

have heard and started using nutriiveda and already there are lots of very

positive updates coming out!!!! I don't think outside this group and the

doctors involved with our kids from this group know much about nutriiveda

because it is brand new. Hence your doctor is not able to recognize it. Most of

the parents have taken the product, the information about the ayurvedic

ingredients [which plays a key role too] and asked their doctors if it is ok for

them to give their child. And the doctors did give all of them a green signal.

Perhaps you haven't read that some of the doctors have really embraced the

nutriiveda and feel it is a very good product.

There have been couple of moms who did say that their DAN doctors have approved

it for their child as well. has always asked everyone to consult their

doctors before starting as this is not a " supplement " but sure is as effective

as one. And again everything in it is all natural and certified as a food.

Yes, all our kids are precious and if it is not for their best interest in mind

she would not even have mentioned it. On Sunday my 7 year old son's therapist

came and she was amazed as my son went through everything very quickly. This is

not like him from before. His fine motor and speech have improved and it's only

been about a month on nutriiveda. My husband and I are very thankful.

sowmya

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Thanks ! No, we have not talked

> > before. I have only been a 

> > > member of the group for a few months and this is the

> > biggest surge 

> > > we have seen. If there is anything that I (we) can do

> > to help get 

> > > the word out or to help with the research, let me

> > know. Isn't it 

> > > funny how people don't believe this as if we would

> > make something 

> > > like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from

> > once to twice a 

> > > week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two

> > weeks) can not 

> > > account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating

> > to me is when 

> > > the people (besides me) that are with him everyday (my

> > husband and 

> > > my mom)...still do not believe it is the NutriiVeda.

> > My mom who 

> > > watches my boys while we work thinks the improvements

> > are 

> > > remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the

> > NutriiVeda. My 

> > > husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is

> > because they have 

> > > not read the growing number of amazing testimonials

> > (like yours and 

> > > Mel's) that I have from this group. At

> > > > this

> > > >

> > > > > point, it doesn't matter what they

> > think...it is working!

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > As a side note...my poor little guy was

> > hit in the mouth 

> > > yesterday at tumbling and almost got his front tooth

> > knocked out. It 

> > > didn't fall out, but it is now pushed back and he has

> > the most 

> > > swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if he didn't

> > have enough 

> > > going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough

> > trouble figuring out 

> > > where to put his tongue and lips to make certain

> > sounds, but now he 

> > > has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids

> > just can't 

> > > catch a break! Well, I hope it doesn't impede his

> > progress.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > I will keep you posted on any other

> > improvements!

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Thanks again,

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > >

> > > > > > From: @groups.

> > com 

> > > [mailto:childrensap raxianet @groups. com] On

> > Behalf Of 

> > > kiddietalk

> > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13

> > PM

> > > >

> > > > > > @groups.

> > com

> > > >

> > > > > > Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re:

> > 25month old son on 

> > > NutriiVeda update

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > thank you so much for sharing

> > this update!!! I can 

> > > totally understand why the professionals wouldn't

> > believe the 

> > > nutriiveda would have that profound of an impact -but

> > that's why the 

> > > world needs to hear Mel's story. http://littlemermai dmelanie. 

> > > wordpress. com/about

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > You see your child is still so young

> > -so even though for all 

> > > of us it's amazing -for the average person on the

> > street a sudden 

> > > dramatic surge in speech in a child your child's age

> > is par for the 

> > > course. The fact that it happened within days of

> > nutriiveda -and 

> > > it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would

> > appear as 

> > > coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because

> > it's what we 

> > > keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and

> > all 

> > > conditions- that makes the chance of your child's

> > surges a 

> > > " coincidence " low. We went through the same thing with

> > the fish 

> > > oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to

> > changes that are so 

> > > great -add to the fact that we are using this as a

> > fund raiser and 

> > > it appears even more biased. But we never meant this

> > to be for the 

> > > kids! I mean how many parents and professionals are in

> > this group 

> > > that want or need to lose a few pounds??? That's why

> > we did the http://www.nutraeas

> > >  y.com page That's who we thought our

> > > >

> > > > > fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids!

> > This new " therapy "  

> > > was a surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year

> > old apraxic 

> > > son Tanner who had the same remarkable surges in all

> > the areas I 

> > > documented- and this needs to be studied as it's

> > remarkable- it is 

> > > THAT remarkable.. .and Tanner's surges were first

> > reported to us as 

> > > parents by his school professionals who even today

> > continue to be 

> > > amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic

> > changes. Tanner is 

> > > NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like

> > he's the Tanner 

> > > he would have been if he was never apraxic. He's not

> > yet 100% and I 

> > > know this is going to sound bold for me to say -but I

> > want to for 

> > > the record say that there will be something in the

> > nutriiveda that 

> > > is found to be healing the brain of our children. I

> > have talked to 

> > > other parents of children surging on the nutriiveda

> > and they agree. 

> > > I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please let

> > me know 

> > > because I don't believe you and I

> > > > have

> > > >

> > > > > spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've

> > been speaking to so 

> > > many people I am losing track!!)

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > So yes for little ones the world won't

> > take that seriously as 

> > > it's due to the nutriiveda. But we know from even the

> > kids 7, 13, 

> > > and 25 years old, that they regressed within days of

> > being off the 

> > > nutriiveda -and surged again back on- that it is not

> > coincidence.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Wait until you read Robin's newest

> > update for Mel -she called 

> > > me the other day that had a conversation with

> > her that she 

> > > wants to have a life like her sisters!!! Robin told me

> > that Mel 

> > > never before talked about her frustrations. She's

> > TWENTY FIVE YEARS 

> > > OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as

> > mine...Robin is she 

> > > now 26????

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge

> > in a closer to 2 year 

> > > old is priceless to the parents of that child -but yes

> > will not be 

> > > taken seriously by the media- or by close minded 

> >

> > > professionals. ..but nobody can ignore when it happens

> > again, and 

> > > again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and

> > with various 

> > > diagnosis. But...it won't be until it's validated with

> > research that 

> > > the skeptics both in the professionals and public will

> > still remain. 

> > > That's OK...as long as it's approved as " benign " and

> > parents are 

> > > given the go ahead to try it- more and more will know

> > what some of 

> > > us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle.

> > (and how many 

> > > don't believe in them either???)

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Xun,

Do not be ashamed of being a skeptic. You are right to question associations

with a product. I too worry about such things in everything we do for my

grandson. It is best to check a product out. We did. We took it to our doctor

and had her look at it and she okayed the product. We did not rush in and start

this product, just as we did not rush in with the ProEFA and EPA. I observed

and then made a decision. ( actually have my grandson's doctor recommending

ProEFA and ProEPA now)

has already admitted to the money being made for apraxic research. This

was the original point of the product to make money for apraxic research. She

did not have original intentions of children using this, but now that they are

so be it. ly, I could give a Rats Arss about where the money goes as long

as my grandson shows improvement.

We tried the chocolate and we could not get him to eat or drink it. I just

received the vanilla and hopefully he will take it.

One parent has already posted that they are using just whey and showing results,

but I want some control over the product and quality, so we will continue with

this one.

In fact, my grandson's ND said that the whey is beneficial and a difficult

product to administer taste wise. She also mentioned the amino acids as being

key. Her thought was that if they have come up with a product that taste good

enough, that offered all of these healthy supplements, then she herself might

start suggesting it to her patients. Stay skeptical investigate and answer your

own questions. I hope this helps.

Nora

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Thanks ! No, we have not talked

> > before. I have only been a 

> > > member of the group for a few months and this is the

> > biggest surge 

> > > we have seen. If there is anything that I (we) can do

> > to help get 

> > > the word out or to help with the research, let me

> > know. Isn't it 

> > > funny how people don't believe this as if we would

> > make something 

> > > like this up! We did increase our son's therapy from

> > once to twice a 

> > > week, but two extra sessions of therapy (in the two

> > weeks) can not 

> > > account for this surge. The thing that is frustrating

> > to me is when 

> > > the people (besides me) that are with him everyday (my

> > husband and 

> > > my mom)...still do not believe it is the NutriiVeda.

> > My mom who 

> > > watches my boys while we work thinks the improvements

> > are 

> > > remarkable, but she rolls her eyes when I credit the

> > NutriiVeda. My 

> > > husband pretty much does the same. I guess it is

> > because they have 

> > > not read the growing number of amazing testimonials

> > (like yours and 

> > > Mel's) that I have from this group. At

> > > > this

> > > >

> > > > > point, it doesn't matter what they

> > think...it is working!

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > As a side note...my poor little guy was

> > hit in the mouth 

> > > yesterday at tumbling and almost got his front tooth

> > knocked out. It 

> > > didn't fall out, but it is now pushed back and he has

> > the most 

> > > swollen upper lip I have ever seen. As if he didn't

> > have enough 

> > > going on in his mouth and he didn't have enough

> > trouble figuring out 

> > > where to put his tongue and lips to make certain

> > sounds, but now he 

> > > has this too deal with. Sometimes I swear these kids

> > just can't 

> > > catch a break! Well, I hope it doesn't impede his

> > progress.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > I will keep you posted on any other

> > improvements!

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Thanks again,

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > >

> > > > > > From: @groups.

> > com 

> > > [mailto:childrensap raxianet @groups. com] On

> > Behalf Of 

> > > kiddietalk

> > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:13

> > PM

> > > >

> > > > > > @groups.

> > com

> > > >

> > > > > > Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re:

> > 25month old son on 

> > > NutriiVeda update

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > thank you so much for sharing

> > this update!!! I can 

> > > totally understand why the professionals wouldn't

> > believe the 

> > > nutriiveda would have that profound of an impact -but

> > that's why the 

> > > world needs to hear Mel's story. http://littlemermai dmelanie. 

> > > wordpress. com/about

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > You see your child is still so young

> > -so even though for all 

> > > of us it's amazing -for the average person on the

> > street a sudden 

> > > dramatic surge in speech in a child your child's age

> > is par for the 

> > > course. The fact that it happened within days of

> > nutriiveda -and 

> > > it's only been 2 weeks for such a dramatic surge would

> > appear as 

> > > coincidental. The reason it is remarkable is because

> > it's what we 

> > > keep hearing from parents of children of all ages and

> > all 

> > > conditions- that makes the chance of your child's

> > surges a 

> > > " coincidence " low. We went through the same thing with

> > the fish 

> > > oils. It's hard to credit something so simple to

> > changes that are so 

> > > great -add to the fact that we are using this as a

> > fund raiser and 

> > > it appears even more biased. But we never meant this

> > to be for the 

> > > kids! I mean how many parents and professionals are in

> > this group 

> > > that want or need to lose a few pounds??? That's why

> > we did the http://www.nutraeas

> > >  y.com page That's who we thought our

> > > >

> > > > > fundraiser could be for -us -not our kids!

> > This new " therapy "  

> > > was a surprise side benefit I discovered in my 13 year

> > old apraxic 

> > > son Tanner who had the same remarkable surges in all

> > the areas I 

> > > documented- and this needs to be studied as it's

> > remarkable- it is 

> > > THAT remarkable.. .and Tanner's surges were first

> > reported to us as 

> > > parents by his school professionals who even today

> > continue to be 

> > > amazed " blown away " by his sudden and dramatic

> > changes. Tanner is 

> > > NOT the same child. I can't explain it but it's like

> > he's the Tanner 

> > > he would have been if he was never apraxic. He's not

> > yet 100% and I 

> > > know this is going to sound bold for me to say -but I

> > want to for 

> > > the record say that there will be something in the

> > nutriiveda that 

> > > is found to be healing the brain of our children. I

> > have talked to 

> > > other parents of children surging on the nutriiveda

> > and they agree. 

> > > I'm sure you know what I mean - right? Please let

> > me know 

> > > because I don't believe you and I

> > > > have

> > > >

> > > > > spoken (but if we did don't feel bad I've

> > been speaking to so 

> > > many people I am losing track!!)

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > So yes for little ones the world won't

> > take that seriously as 

> > > it's due to the nutriiveda. But we know from even the

> > kids 7, 13, 

> > > and 25 years old, that they regressed within days of

> > being off the 

> > > nutriiveda -and surged again back on- that it is not

> > coincidence.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Wait until you read Robin's newest

> > update for Mel -she called 

> > > me the other day that had a conversation with

> > her that she 

> > > wants to have a life like her sisters!!! Robin told me

> > that Mel 

> > > never before talked about her frustrations. She's

> > TWENTY FIVE YEARS 

> > > OLD!! Or wait -her birthday is the same day as

> > mine...Robin is she 

> > > now 26????

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Either way -a sudden and dramatic surge

> > in a closer to 2 year 

> > > old is priceless to the parents of that child -but yes

> > will not be 

> > > taken seriously by the media- or by close minded 

> >

> > > professionals. ..but nobody can ignore when it happens

> > again, and 

> > > again, and again...and in " children " of all ages and

> > with various 

> > > diagnosis. But...it won't be until it's validated with

> > research that 

> > > the skeptics both in the professionals and public will

> > still remain. 

> > > That's OK...as long as it's approved as " benign " and

> > parents are 

> > > given the go ahead to try it- more and more will know

> > what some of 

> > > us are living....for lack of better words -a miracle.

> > (and how many 

> > > don't believe in them either???)

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > CONGRATULATIONS KATIE!!!!

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to thank you all for the support!  I am so greatful to have

people who understand what a big deal this is!  I will keep you updated on any

progress!

Please do the same!

IL

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: 25month old son on NutriiVeda update

Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:34 PM

 

I understand that too. It's funny with this one the Dads do appear to be

more skeptical than the Moms -at least to start. Most are believers once they

see all your husband has -but your child again is so young. Your husband

probably never quite accepted that there is anything but a speech delay going on

anyway at 25 months old -and just thinks this is good the craziness is all over

and others are seeing what he's suspected all along -that his son was just a

late talker. Am I right? And come to think of it -your mom probably falls into

that same " he is just a late talker " boat- right?

There is only one way to prove it's from the nutriiveda. Stop it. At least for a

few days. No harm in stopping it and it will be the only way to prove that it's

what made the difference. I do know with fish oils the younger the better in

helping to get the brain to rewire and it could be the same with the nutriiveda

-but still it's only been 2 weeks. If the surges you are seeing which are so

dramatic were just coincidental than certainly stopping the nutriiveda won't

make any difference.

Let us know! (and like the fish oils once you start again the surges come back

-so don't worry about that)

=====

[Guest guest]

That's a terrific story, . Thank you for sharing and congratulations.

>

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with

CAS. My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small

surge in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few

sound other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a

private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a

speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P "

consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not

mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound

approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6

month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his

expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a

week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip

and tongue.

> After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started

our 24 and ½ month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks

and we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word

approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some

two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant

sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist

when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was

mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole

sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I

- wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more

spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously

and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I

am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even

sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it

has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively

and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal

diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist,

an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the

room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a

21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in

less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was

the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's

information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much

dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever "

we were doing. I believe differently of course!

> I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son,

but he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social.

I do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but

other than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't

enough!)

>

> So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope

that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in

the last few weeks!

>

> Sincerely,

>

> IL

>

>

>