Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 > Is anyone using a good folic acid that they could > recommend? And do you know > what the ratio should be for B12 to Folic Acid? I > am taking B12 injections > twice a week but I am not taking Folic Acid, I just > found out that I most > likely should be taking Folic Acid to balance out > the B12. Thanks, On a related topic, I have heard that folic acid can encourage bacterial infections, particularly staph. I did a cursory look through Medline and found some drugs that tried to kill bacteria through blocking the folic acid pathyway, but nothing more definitive than that. Has anyone heard this before? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Hi, I must admit I just flick very quickly through the postings so I'm not sure if the following has been mentioned or not. One should take everything with due caution and the thing to consider with folic acid is this...........taken from Dr Mercola a functional medicine doctor......... " If one is taking folic acid, it is possible to mask the changes that occur in the red blood cells that would warn a physician that the person was having a severe vitamin B12 deficiency. " I personally never take folic acid without also taking B12, a lack of B12 can make you very tired! I don't know how folic acid works in conjunction with Metx. but one can be tested for both folic acid and B12 to see if one is deficient. Huggles Lisbeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 Patti Yes!!!! In my opinion it would be! Are you sure you're not taliking about micrograms (mcgs)? Gerald --- * * <gemini_0306@...> wrote: > can anybody out there tell me what is the highest > dose folic acid that can > be taken for somebody with absorption problems > (liver problems)... > also is 5,000 mgs. a day too much???? > thanks, > Patti > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 can you translate that to me...mgs. and mcg's thanks Patti >From: Gerald Oros <postman23_2000@...> >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: Re: folic acid >Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:17:51 -0800 (PST) > >Patti > >Yes!!!! In my opinion it would be! Are you sure >you're not taliking about micrograms (mcgs)? > >Gerald > > > >--- * * <gemini_0306@...> wrote: > > can anybody out there tell me what is the highest > > dose folic acid that can > > be taken for somebody with absorption problems > > (liver problems)... > > also is 5,000 mgs. a day too much???? > > thanks, > > Patti > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 When the cells in your body divide they need Folic acid to make DNA for the new cells. Ordinary cells divide very infrequently - usually to replace dead cells. Cancer cells are dividing and multiplying much more rapidly than ordinary cells so they need a lot of DNA and hence Folic acid. MTX is a modified form of Folic acid that actually stops DNA production. In its original use in chemotherapy, MTX blocks DNA formation in cancer cells so they cannot divide and multiply. In arthritis MTX is used at much, much smaller doses. It is thought that the DNA effect is not what helps control PsA, RA etc.. Nobody knows exactly how MTX helps, but it usually does. Most Rheumies, however, like to give the MTX 8, 12 or 24 hours to act before they apply a " rescue " drug to negate the DNA effect. The rescue drug is either folic acid (at 1mg/day for the other 6 days of the week) or a supercharged form called folinic acid or leucovorin (at 2.5, 5 or 10 mg once/week at the desired interval after the MTX). Your Rheumy may have variations on this theme - MTX is a dangerous drug. Use it as instructed. Enbrel or Remicade act in a totally different way from MTX and should not be affected by folic acid. It is a good idea to get at least 400 mcg (0.4mg) of folic acid since it is essential to keep your arteries open. Some Rheumies like to use MTX with Enbrel or Remicade so then you would have to take folic acid as they direct. On Friday, August 16, 2002, at 06:28 PM, Schroeder wrote: > Meghan wrote: In > addition, too much folic acid (over 1 mg/day) can negate the effects > of methotrexate. While it is essential to take the folic acid with > MTX, you have to use balance. > > I take three 1mg tablets everyday of folic acid to help fight off mouth > sores. Although I am not on methotrexate...I am on Enbrel and wondering > if that higher dose of folic acid would interfere with the Enbrel? > Thanks for any further information on this. > > in Poulsbo, WA. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Hi e, Holly takes her folic acid in her multi-vitamin, she takes flintstones complete, um, when she was on it before, the insurance paid for it. They do not pay for the multi-vitamins. As for the other, if your doctor sends the insurance company documents stating the need for the other drug, they should cover it. I hate how they make you jump thru hoops, don't they realize that just being parents of children with this wonderful disease is a big enough hoop to jump thru, without them throwing other hoops at us on a whim. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Is it possible that your sore throat is due to the stills? -- Folic Acid Hi guys, Does anyone know how long Folic Acid supplements take before they take effect on the 'sore throat' side effect of the MTX? Also - what dose is recommended. The one I have started today is 400% RDA. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 My sore throat hurts about an inch above my Adam's Apple - mainly when I swallow. Perhaps someone will have an idea as to whether this can be MTX or Still's with it's inflammation on it's 'travels'. Steve Folic Acid Hi guys, Does anyone know how long Folic Acid supplements take before they take effect on the 'sore throat' side effect of the MTX? Also - what dose is recommended. The one I have started today is 400% RDA. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Hi Steve, the sore throat is the stills, I used to say its not a regular sore throat but its way down my throat. I was told by my doc not to take ibprophen with prednisone, he did say I could take tylenol extra strength if I get the mtx h/a which I do. Im also on 20mg Im of mtx hope that helps love, Pat from MA My sore throat hurts about an inch above my Adam's Apple - mainly when I > swallow. > > > > > Folic Acid > > Hi guys, > > Does anyone know how long Folic Acid supplements take before they take > effect on the 'sore throat' side effect of the MTX? > Also - what dose is recommended. The one I have started today is 400% RDA. > > Steve > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Hi Pat, Did your doc tell you why not to take Ibuprofen with Pred? I'm v.interested as I always wonder if the Ibuprofen prevents the Pred from working as well as it should be doing. Steve Folic Acid > > Hi guys, > > Does anyone know how long Folic Acid supplements take before they take > effect on the 'sore throat' side effect of the MTX? > Also - what dose is recommended. The one I have started today is 400% RDA. > > Steve > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Hi Steve, Im trying to remember, Both my primary and my rhemi said it, I thought they said it has some adverse effect with the prednisone but I cant really remember. Sorry. Love Pat from MA > > Did your doc tell you why not to take Ibuprofen with Pred? , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Alia- Definitely ask. Ours forgot about the folic acid when started too. She had a couple of mouth sores. I asked the next appt, and he was kicking himself for forgetting to prescribe the folic acid. It helps alleviate side effects. Diane (, 4, pauci) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Alia: They seem to prescribe it for you after you identify that you are experiencing symptoms that will be addressed by the folic acid. You should ask about it right away and find what the doctors have to say. We began to recognize cold sores as a problem but we didn't know it was because of the MTX until almost a year after Carrick began to take the MTX. We didn't know to mention it until it was a continual problem and we happened to mention it to the doctor. You can get it over the counter as a supplement in any local drug store also. We take 400 mg/day. (Carrick, onset 9, now 11, poly, 8ml/wk MTX injection) M. J. O'ConnorPresidentRail Systems, Inc.22 North Greenwood Ave.Hopewell, NJ 08525609-466-4114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hi Alia, Everyone on MTX should take folic acid.The pills are realy small but if Caroline can't swallow pills most kiddie vitamins contain 400mcg of folic acid.Vanderbilt just had take a vitamin when he was 2 and when he learned to swallow pills they wrote him a script for the 1mg pills.You would be surpised what little ones can do. could swallow 5 pills at once at 3. Hugs Becki and 5 systemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 In a message dated 2/27/04 10:28:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, ajpranke@... writes: << Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis >> Hi Alia: When Caitlin started MTX her rheumy did not prescribe it for her either. When I asked him about Folic Acid he said she didn't need it if she wasn't having any problems with the MTX. So far so good, no problems with the MTX. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hi Alia, 1mg folic acid is better then 400 micrograms but Caroline is only 2 yrs old just like was.His rheumy was the one to put him on a multiviatamin with the 400mcg.Differant rheumies have differant opinions.If Caroline can't swallow the 1mg pill there is always the option of crushing it and sneaking it in some applesauce or ice cream.The multi vitamin is just an option until you can speak to the rheumy about it.It may come in some sort of liquid form also. Hugs Becki and 5 systemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Thanks Diane I will call her Rheumy and ask! Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Thanks Diane I will call her Rheumy and ask! Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 I definately would...........Terri Folic Acid Caroline is starting Metotrexate next week but we were NOT given a prescription for Folic Acid. Should I be calling her Rhuemy or doesn't everyone need to take it?Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Becki - Thanks I will check Caroline's Flintstone vitamin and see if it contains folic acid. Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 It probably does, but it may not be enough. At least that is what Chris' rheumy said when asked about changing to a multi vitamin instead just the dose of folic acid. Michele Re: Folic Acid Becki - Thanks I will check Caroline's Flintstone vitamin and see if it contains folic acid. Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 - Thanks. I will check it out. Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Patty...good to hear. I hope Caroline doesn't either! Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Becki! Thanks for all the tips. We will definitely play it by ear with the MTX and then see what the Rhuemy says if we have problems. Alia and Caroline, age 2, pauci and uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 In a message dated 3/25/2004 8:41:46 AM Central Standard Time, writes: > What do you think? Does this amount of Folic Acid seem > excessive......? > > I take 1 mg of folic acid every day per my rheumatologist. I suppose it could be possible to take too much. Ask your pharmacist and get their opinion. D in MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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