Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow! That is amazing that your son went from moderate/severe to mild apraxia in just three weeks!!! I don't think anyone else has posted that it happened that quickly! Thank you so much for sharing your good news and your boy's progress. We are all eager to hear more so please, keep posting! Congratulations!!! Romesa The NV Sheriff 334-220-8140 romesa1@... From: marymejia@... Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:42:28 +0000 Subject: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... I am a mother of 39mth old triplets. It's been about 3 weeks that my boys have been on NV. It was amazing in the beginning, they had no problem taking it, and then they refused it. I found that taking them off for a day or two gave them a break...I snuck it in their vanilla pudding, and I think once they got used to the taste, they expect it in the morning before breakfast. A few months ago, one of the 3 was diagnosed with moderate to severe Apraxia. With combination speech therapy, and fish oils, there was a surge....then I tried NV....I did all the research, read all the posts, spoke to a Natural path doctors and had my boys pediatrician review it....they were all impressed. Now 3 weeks into NV (we're almost at a heaping scoop) My son has gone from moderate/severe apraxia, to mild apraxia. He is much more coherent, and is making 4-5 word sentences....all three of my boys are. They too are humming and singning, the tantrums are rarely happening, and they play so much better together. There coordiantion in tracing, and there new found love in the alphabet and numbers (both in english and in Spanish) has blown everyone away. I wanted to let the parents who are still on the fence read this. I was skeptical, very skeptical, bombarded with so many questions. Once the doctors gave me the go ahead, I had no reason not to try it. Also, my boys are heavy boys, they weighed over 40lbs, and although they didn't look it, felt very heavy. Since NV, they feel lighter, and have more energy ( in a positive way. I am very thankful for this product, and for this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hi and all! Just like the message I sent out 2 weeks ago -I honestly believe we have a paradigm shift going on due to NV where we have individuals surging so quickly and dramatically at all ages that the average professional out there that doesn't know the research http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15272 & uid=115029735601 that food can repair neuro damage (at least proven in mice studies so far) I would like to put together some case studies on this just as I did for the seizures http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15306 & post=93938 & uid=115029735601#post93\ 938 These posts are just rough- I'm going to clean them up and am working on a new site. if I can share your story as well that will be great -and I don't have to put names. Also if anyone else wants to be included please email me at lisa@... We need to document this so that there is more awareness. too -her child went from a 10 month old level to a 21 month old level at 26 months...in 2 weeks. More on this below. I now have the entire evaluation from from Kent University how her child went from severe to mild apraxia in 3 months- will be including that and taking out names -but all here know who it is. From what I have seen all parents are willing to speak with doctors -and most are willing to speak with other parents as well. This is just incredible news!! Here's the last message I sent out on this and nobody responded...come on -this is Exciting with a capital E!! [ ] Has NV created a paradigm shift? I got the following email from who's son surged from 10 to 21 month old level in speech on NV -and below is that is the message I sent out yesterday from about her 5 and a half year old not being qualified for services any longer either because he's doing so well. We need help from the SLPs and MDs in this group who have patients, clients, or children on NV to be able to write something up that explains the brain responds to multiple stimuli and just because these children have surges on NV doesn't mean they do not require services to further help them. The goal is to get these children up to speed and whether a random professional doesn't believe NV (or fish oils -same issues but never this extreme) created the surge. We know it's from the NV. If you are able to help by writing up case studies of your clients on NV who STILL need therapy - and why it's so important ..that parents can share to help maintain services please share. Hi , So, the news is good, but not as good as you might expect. Jack is doing great! He is talking in 3-6 word sentences now (He is 32 months old now.) He is able to say almost any word spontaneously now. I feel as though he is catching up but is not there yet because he will say three fluid words then pause where a pause is not needed and then a 4 word related phrase. " Horsee eat hay...in big red barn.) He is using adjectives and verbs. We worked hard on " ing " verb endings. He can say " man riding big red bike. " or other phrases like that. He has made tremendous progress considering he could only say maybe 5 words total in January of this year! I do attribute a lot of that to the Nutriiveda. (I believe he started Nutriiveda in late January or earl y February.) EI has reduced his speech from twice to once weekly since his last evaluation in August. I was not real happy with that but not much I could do. Our private speech therapist as well as the EI therapist put him at around the 24 month mark for his speech (although I think it is a little better now.) Unfortunately our private speech therapist had to take a full time school job so he hasn't been able to see her anymore and we can't find another private therapist around here with good credentials and references. He is having his speech therapy at a local hospital once a week now. I am not pleased with the speech therapist there either. Jack has not taken to her very well and they make us sit in a pretty confined room (which is hard to ask of ANY two year old boy. SHe has also not done anything except play with him. I have been there for all but one session and I don't see her using any technique at all much less any specifically designed for Apraxia. She even told my husband that she thought Jack's speech was that of a typical 3 year old and that if she had evaluated him, then he would not be receiving services at all! NICE...probably why she is just playing with him and not working/drilling him to advance speech. So, I am in the midst of working with his Service Coordinator to get us either back on the waiting list or working with a different speech therapist. It is frustrating. Jack is still receiving 1 - 1 and 1/2 scoops a day. The good news is that when Jack has been off of the Nutriiveda for 2-3-4 days, I no longer see any regression! That is the great news! I am thinking about bumping him up to 2 scoops a day. I agree with you in your thinking that there is some sort of repair going on. Jack isn't totally there yet, but considering where he came from, and the fact that he won't be three until January, I am very happy with his progress! I think I will probably always keep him on at least one scoop for general health purposes. He is a very good eater and he LOVES fruits and vegetables so I know he is getting all of nutrients he needs, but it can't hurt I figure! Well, thanks again for all of the support and guidance! For monthers like me and most of the others in the group, we would be lost without the group and people like you! Thanks again for all of your help! Talk to you soon, and Of course you can share with the group. I am also worried because this new speech therapist says she is pretty sure he doesn't have Apraxia. It ticks me off because she said that after seeing him for less than an hour. I told her we have two other speech therapists and more importantly a doctor in Chicago that have diagnosed him with Apraxia. I guess she thinks she knows more than they do...which really worries me. It makes me wonder if she really even knows what it is much less how to provide therapy for it. I honestly feel like I give him more therapy than she does. I think you are right about the paradigm shift. I am glad Jack is doing so well, but I definitely think he still needs therapy. It is so frustrating. I wish the " people " who made these dicisions could walk a week in our shoes or better yet, a week in our children's shoes. It is sickening and disheartening. When they dropped Jack's services from 2 X per week to 1 ( " because he was improving, " ) I said, so rather than keeping him at twice a week and getting him completely caught up by Kindergarten, let's decrease his services just enough to keep him behind all the way through school. I was irrate to put it mildly. I know you know the frustration all too well. Past messages: Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Do any of you use Nutriiveda for your little ones (under 3)? Hello , Our 24 month old has been on NV for just over a week now. We have seen some tremendous increases in his speech. He is attempting many more words and is now " singing " along to some songs. I was very worried about trying this with my son at first as well. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician and plan to take it to his Pediatric Neurologist on March 1st. I do have my degree in science and have asked many other scientists where I work what their thoughts were about the product. No one thought there would be any problems. I also tried the product before I gave it to my son. I started him with 1/3 of a scoop twice a day for a few days and then increased to 1/2 a scoop twice a day. I am thinking about waiting another week and then stopping the NV to see if there is any regression. Again, our son's only additional supplements are the ProEPA and ProEFA. I will keep you posted on any additional improvements! Hello, Yes, we just started our 25month old son on NutriiVeda on February 1st. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician before I started him on it. He takes ½ of a scoop in the morning and ½ of a scoop with dinner. I have already seen some good results! He has just begun with two word sentences (approximations) which he had never done before. I was waiting to post until after he had been on it for a few weeks, but we are so excited about the progress he has made in just 4 and ½ days! (As a side note...Our son is also on the ProEFA and ProEPA but he has never been on any other supplements [other than a Flintstones vitamin]) I hope this helps. IL RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update Hello Everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS. My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P " consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6 month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip and tongue. After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our 24 and & #65533; month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I - wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist, an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a 21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever " we were doing. I believe differently of course! I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't enough!) So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in the last few weeks! Sincerely, IL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Romesa, It's been so crazy. None of my boys suffer from any other issues that can be related to Apraxia. Maybe that's another reason why it's only been 3 weeks, and we've seen all these improvements. My son's SLP showed me his vocabulary list from his initial assesment (when he was diagnosed back in July/August). Everything was basically (water= ada, home=oma, me = nee,) most other words just sounded the same (adad, dada, ada dada). People would just look at me, as if I knew what he was saying, just yesterday he said: " mommy, I want water for me, Gabe and " and counted his brothers and himself on his fingers. I was floored. His lip rounding, and beginning and ending sounds have come along. He started with this particular SLP back in July/August. She is floored too. Today, I had them all with another SLP (goverment funded) and their last assesment was 1.5mth ago. Today, she said she had to re-evaulate them, as there was such a change from when she last saw them. My mother, who was sketical, called me crazy for giving my boys " foreign substances " can't believe how much she can understand the boys now. I'm crossing my fingers that the next 3 weeks will put them over the top! ________________________________ From: Romesa <romesa1@...> Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 12:59:34 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... Wow! That is amazing that your son went from moderate/severe to mild apraxia in just three weeks!!! I don't think anyone else has posted that it happened that quickly! Thank you so much for sharing your good news and your boy's progress. We are all eager to hear more so please, keep posting! Congratulations!!! Romesa The NV Sheriff 334-220-8140 romesa1@... From: marymejia@... Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:42:28 +0000 Subject: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... I am a mother of 39mth old triplets. It's been about 3 weeks that my boys have been on NV. It was amazing in the beginning, they had no problem taking it, and then they refused it. I found that taking them off for a day or two gave them a break...I snuck it in their vanilla pudding, and I think once they got used to the taste, they expect it in the morning before breakfast. A few months ago, one of the 3 was diagnosed with moderate to severe Apraxia. With combination speech therapy, and fish oils, there was a surge....then I tried NV....I did all the research, read all the posts, spoke to a Natural path doctors and had my boys pediatrician review it....they were all impressed. Now 3 weeks into NV (we're almost at a heaping scoop) My son has gone from moderate/severe apraxia, to mild apraxia. He is much more coherent, and is making 4-5 word sentences....all three of my boys are. They too are humming and singning, the tantrums are rarely happening, and they play so much better together. There coordiantion in tracing, and there new found love in the alphabet and numbers (both in english and in Spanish) has blown everyone away. I wanted to let the parents who are still on the fence read this. I was skeptical, very skeptical, bombarded with so many questions. Once the doctors gave me the go ahead, I had no reason not to try it. Also, my boys are heavy boys, they weighed over 40lbs, and although they didn't look it, felt very heavy. Since NV, they feel lighter, and have more energy ( in a positive way. I am very thankful for this product, and for this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hi , I am a SLP. I wrote to you a few weeks ago re: increasing the dosage of NV for a 5 yr. old non-verbal client of mine. She had made huge improvements on 2 scoops almost immediately but when we increased her to 3 scoops she improved even more, especially in terms of behavior and attention. Her mom is reporting that her behavior is so much more managable now. The developmental pediatrician orginally put her on meds. for attention and focus but she did not react well. The doctor was amazed when she saw her 2 weeks later after increasing the dosage of NV. Her comprehension and ability to follow directions had improved remarkably in such a short period of time. Since being on NV she has also been feeding herself at the table and eating lots of new foods. Her verbal imitation skills have improved a lot. She is finally able to produce some words. Each week her productions are becoming more accurate. She is able to produce new speech sounds that she did not produce prior to NV. She is " singing " songs spontaneously. It's amazing how much more vocal she is now. She is now able to imitate lots of new oral-motor movements with improved accuracy. Her eye contact has really improved as well. Her mom also reported that she is now able to pedal a bike with training wheels. Wow..........amazing!! Thanks again for all of your help! Sheryl From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:59 AM Hi and all! Just like the message I sent out 2 weeks ago -I honestly believe we have a paradigm shift going on due to NV where we have individuals surging so quickly and dramatically at all ages that the average professional out there that doesn't know the research http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15272 & uid=115029735601 that food can repair neuro damage (at least proven in mice studies so far) I would like to put together some case studies on this just as I did for the seizures http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15306 & post=93938 & uid=115029735601#post93\ 938 These posts are just rough- I'm going to clean them up and am working on a new site. if I can share your story as well that will be great -and I don't have to put names. Also if anyone else wants to be included please email me at lisa@... We need to document this so that there is more awareness. too -her child went from a 10 month old level to a 21 month old level at 26 months...in 2 weeks. More on this below. I now have the entire evaluation from from Kent University how her child went from severe to mild apraxia in 3 months- will be including that and taking out names -but all here know who it is. From what I have seen all parents are willing to speak with doctors -and most are willing to speak with other parents as well. This is just incredible news!! Here's the last message I sent out on this and nobody responded...come on -this is Exciting with a capital E!! [ ] Has NV created a paradigm shift? I got the following email from who's son surged from 10 to 21 month old level in speech on NV -and below is that is the message I sent out yesterday from about her 5 and a half year old not being qualified for services any longer either because he's doing so well. We need help from the SLPs and MDs in this group who have patients, clients, or children on NV to be able to write something up that explains the brain responds to multiple stimuli and just because these children have surges on NV doesn't mean they do not require services to further help them. The goal is to get these children up to speed and whether a random professional doesn't believe NV (or fish oils -same issues but never this extreme) created the surge. We know it's from the NV. If you are able to help by writing up case studies of your clients on NV who STILL need therapy - and why it's so important ..that parents can share to help maintain services please share. Hi , So, the news is good, but not as good as you might expect. Jack is doing great! He is talking in 3-6 word sentences now (He is 32 months old now.) He is able to say almost any word spontaneously now. I feel as though he is catching up but is not there yet because he will say three fluid words then pause where a pause is not needed and then a 4 word related phrase. " Horsee eat hay...in big red barn.) He is using adjectives and verbs. We worked hard on " ing " verb endings. He can say " man riding big red bike. " or other phrases like that. He has made tremendous progress considering he could only say maybe 5 words total in January of this year! I do attribute a lot of that to the Nutriiveda. (I believe he started Nutriiveda in late January or earl y February.) EI has reduced his speech from twice to once weekly since his last evaluation in August. I was not real happy with that but not much I could do. Our private speech therapist as well as the EI therapist put him at around the 24 month mark for his speech (although I think it is a little better now.) Unfortunately our private speech therapist had to take a full time school job so he hasn't been able to see her anymore and we can't find another private therapist around here with good credentials and references. He is having his speech therapy at a local hospital once a week now. I am not pleased with the speech therapist there either. Jack has not taken to her very well and they make us sit in a pretty confined room (which is hard to ask of ANY two year old boy. SHe has also not done anything except play with him. I have been there for all but one session and I don't see her using any technique at all much less any specifically designed for Apraxia. She even told my husband that she thought Jack's speech was that of a typical 3 year old and that if she had evaluated him, then he would not be receiving services at all! NICE...probably why she is just playing with him and not working/drilling him to advance speech. So, I am in the midst of working with his Service Coordinator to get us either back on the waiting list or working with a different speech therapist. It is frustrating. Jack is still receiving 1 - 1 and 1/2 scoops a day. The good news is that when Jack has been off of the Nutriiveda for 2-3-4 days, I no longer see any regression! That is the great news! I am thinking about bumping him up to 2 scoops a day. I agree with you in your thinking that there is some sort of repair going on. Jack isn't totally there yet, but considering where he came from, and the fact that he won't be three until January, I am very happy with his progress! I think I will probably always keep him on at least one scoop for general health purposes. He is a very good eater and he LOVES fruits and vegetables so I know he is getting all of nutrients he needs, but it can't hurt I figure! Well, thanks again for all of the support and guidance! For monthers like me and most of the others in the group, we would be lost without the group and people like you! Thanks again for all of your help! Talk to you soon, and Of course you can share with the group. I am also worried because this new speech therapist says she is pretty sure he doesn't have Apraxia. It ticks me off because she said that after seeing him for less than an hour. I told her we have two other speech therapists and more importantly a doctor in Chicago that have diagnosed him with Apraxia. I guess she thinks she knows more than they do...which really worries me. It makes me wonder if she really even knows what it is much less how to provide therapy for it. I honestly feel like I give him more therapy than she does. I think you are right about the paradigm shift. I am glad Jack is doing so well, but I definitely think he still needs therapy. It is so frustrating. I wish the " people " who made these dicisions could walk a week in our shoes or better yet, a week in our children's shoes. It is sickening and disheartening. When they dropped Jack's services from 2 X per week to 1 ( " because he was improving, " ) I said, so rather than keeping him at twice a week and getting him completely caught up by Kindergarten, let's decrease his services just enough to keep him behind all the way through school. I was irrate to put it mildly. I know you know the frustration all too well. Past messages: Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Do any of you use Nutriiveda for your little ones (under 3)? Hello , Our 24 month old has been on NV for just over a week now. We have seen some tremendous increases in his speech. He is attempting many more words and is now " singing " along to some songs. I was very worried about trying this with my son at first as well. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician and plan to take it to his Pediatric Neurologist on March 1st. I do have my degree in science and have asked many other scientists where I work what their thoughts were about the product. No one thought there would be any problems. I also tried the product before I gave it to my son. I started him with 1/3 of a scoop twice a day for a few days and then increased to 1/2 a scoop twice a day. I am thinking about waiting another week and then stopping the NV to see if there is any regression. Again, our son's only additional supplements are the ProEPA and ProEFA. I will keep you posted on any additional improvements! Hello, Yes, we just started our 25month old son on NutriiVeda on February 1st. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician before I started him on it. He takes ½ of a scoop in the morning and ½ of a scoop with dinner. I have already seen some good results! He has just begun with two word sentences (approximations) which he had never done before. I was waiting to post until after he had been on it for a few weeks, but we are so excited about the progress he has made in just 4 and ½ days! (As a side note...Our son is also on the ProEFA and ProEPA but he has never been on any other supplements [other than a Flintstones vitamin]) I hope this helps. IL RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update Hello Everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS. My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P " consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6 month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip and tongue. After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our 24 and & #65533; month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I - wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist, an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a 21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever " we were doing. I believe differently of course! I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't enough!) So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in the last few weeks! Sincerely, IL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I am so happy for you ...and me too!!!! I talked to Devin's teacher today and she told me that Devin is doing so well. She doesn't know that we started NV earlier this month, but she told me he is imitating his peers in speech and everything else too and can't believe how much he has improved in the past few days....WOO-HOO! We started proefa a few months ago and saw some surges but not like this. Some people used to worry about what Devin is able to understand but I don't think I'll hear that again!! Tonight he pulled out one of the many books we bought for him that he never had interest in before and pointed to the word cow and says " cow " , he had never read ANY word before! Then he pointed to the picture of the pig and said " peeeeg " and the duck and said " dahhh- k " ....I could not believe this was happening .....THANK YOU LORD! I'm not sure if its speech therapy, proefa, NV, mommy therapy, or what! but I am shocked and thrilled!!!!! It does seem like he fits the profile you have on this page http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html I don't know if he would be considered going from severe to mild as even his therapist appears to be just as shocked as everyone else, but I never would have believed these updates possible. Thank you!!!!!! Devin 4.7 apraxia, PDD > > Hi and all! Just like the message I sent out 2 weeks ago -I honestly believe we have a paradigm shift going on due to NV where we have individuals surging so quickly and dramatically at all ages that the average professional out there that doesn't know the research http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15272 & uid=115029735601 that food can repair neuro damage (at least proven in mice studies so far) I would like to put together some case studies on this just as I did for the seizures http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15306 & post=93938 & uid=115029735601#post93\ 938 These posts are just rough- I'm going to clean them up and am working on a new site. if I can share your story as well that will be great -and I don't have to put names. Also if anyone else wants to be included please email me at lisa@... We need to document this so that there is more awareness. too -her child went from a 10 month old level to a 21 month old level at 26 months...in 2 weeks. More on this below. I now have the entire evaluation from from Kent University how her child went from severe to mild apraxia in 3 months- will be including that and taking out names -but all here know who it is. From what I have seen all parents are willing to speak with doctors -and most are willing to speak with other parents as well. This is just incredible news!! Here's the last message I sent out on this and nobody responded...come on -this is Exciting with a capital E!! > > > [ ] Has NV created a paradigm shift? > > I got the following email from who's son surged from 10 to 21 month old level in speech on NV -and below is that is the message I sent out yesterday from about her 5 and a half year old not being qualified for services any longer either because he's doing so well. We need help from the SLPs and MDs in this group who have patients, clients, or children on NV to be able to write something up that explains the brain responds to multiple stimuli and just because these children have surges on NV doesn't mean they do not require services to further help them. The goal is to get these children up to speed and whether a random professional doesn't believe NV (or fish oils -same issues but never this extreme) created the surge. We know it's from the NV. If you are able to help by writing up case studies of your clients on NV who STILL need therapy - and why it's so important ..that parents can share to help maintain services please share. > > Hi , > > So, the news is good, but not as good as you might expect. Jack is doing great! He is talking in 3-6 word sentences now (He is 32 months old now.) He is able to say almost any word spontaneously now. I feel as though he is catching up but is not there yet because he will say three fluid words then pause where a pause is not needed and then a 4 word related phrase. " Horsee eat hay...in big red barn.) He is using adjectives and verbs. We worked hard on " ing " verb endings. He can say " man riding big red bike. " or other phrases like that. He has made tremendous progress considering he could only say maybe 5 words total in January of this year! I do attribute a lot of that to the Nutriiveda. (I believe he started Nutriiveda in late January or earl y February.) EI has reduced his speech from twice to once weekly since his last evaluation in August. I was not real happy with that but not much I could do. Our private speech therapist as well as the EI therapist put him at around the 24 month mark for his speech (although I think it is a little better now.) Unfortunately our private speech therapist had to take a full time school job so he hasn't been able to see her anymore and we can't find another private therapist around here with good credentials and references. He is having his speech therapy at a local hospital once a week now. I am not pleased with the speech therapist there either. Jack has not taken to her very well and they make us sit in a pretty confined room (which is hard to ask of ANY two year old boy. SHe has also not done anything except play with him. I have been there for all but one session and I don't see her using any technique at all much less any specifically designed for Apraxia. She even told my husband that she thought Jack's speech was that of a typical 3 year old and that if she had evaluated him, then he would not be receiving services at all! NICE...probably why she is just playing with him and not working/drilling him to advance speech. So, I am in the midst of working with his Service Coordinator to get us either back on the waiting list or working with a different speech therapist. It is frustrating. > > Jack is still receiving 1 - 1 and 1/2 scoops a day. The good news is that when Jack has been off of the Nutriiveda for 2-3-4 days, I no longer see any regression! That is the great news! I am thinking about bumping him up to 2 scoops a day. I agree with you in your thinking that there is some sort of repair going on. Jack isn't totally there yet, but considering where he came from, and the fact that he won't be three until January, I am very happy with his progress! I think I will probably always keep him on at least one scoop for general health purposes. He is a very good eater and he LOVES fruits and vegetables so I know he is getting all of nutrients he needs, but it can't hurt I figure! Well, thanks again for all of the support and guidance! For monthers like me and most of the others in the group, we would be lost without the group and people like you! Thanks again for all of your help! > > Talk to you soon, > > > and > > Of course you can share with the group. I am also worried because this new speech therapist says she is pretty sure he doesn't have Apraxia. It ticks me off because she said that after seeing him for less than an hour. I told her we have two other speech therapists and more importantly a doctor in Chicago that have diagnosed him with Apraxia. I guess she thinks she knows more than they do...which really worries me. It makes me wonder if she really even knows what it is much less how to provide therapy for it. I honestly feel like I give him more therapy than she does. I think you are right about the paradigm shift. I am glad Jack is doing so well, but I definitely think he still needs therapy. It is so frustrating. I wish the " people " who made these dicisions could walk a week in our shoes or better yet, a week in our children's shoes. It is sickening and disheartening. When they dropped Jack's services from 2 X per week to 1 ( " because he was improving, " ) I said, so rather than keeping him at twice a week and getting him completely caught up by Kindergarten, let's decrease his services just enough to keep him behind all the way through school. I was irrate to put it mildly. I know you know the frustration all too well. > > Past messages: > Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Do any of you use Nutriiveda for your > > little ones (under 3)? > > Hello , > > Our 24 month old has been on NV for just over a week now. We have seen some tremendous increases in his speech. He is attempting many more words and is now " singing " along to some songs. I was very worried about trying this with my son at first as well. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician and plan to take it to his Pediatric Neurologist on March 1st. I do have my degree in science and have asked many other scientists where I work what their thoughts were about the product. No one thought there would be any problems. I also tried the product before I gave it to my son. I started him with 1/3 of a scoop twice a day for a few days and then increased to 1/2 a scoop twice a day. I am thinking about waiting another week and then stopping the NV to see if there is any regression. Again, our son's only additional supplements are the ProEPA and ProEFA. I will keep you posted on any additional improvements! > > > > Hello, > > Yes, we just started our 25month old son on NutriiVeda on February 1st. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician before I started him on it. He takes ½ of a scoop in the morning and ½ of a scoop with dinner. I have already seen some good results! He has just begun with two word sentences (approximations) which he had never done before. I was waiting to post until after he had been on it for a few weeks, but we are so excited about the progress he has made in just 4 and ½ days! (As a side note...Our son is also on the ProEFA and ProEPA but he has never been on any other supplements [other than a Flintstones vitamin]) > > I hope this helps. > > > > IL > > RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update > > Hello Everyone, > I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS. My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P " consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6 month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip and tongue. > After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our 24 and & #65533; month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I - wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I am sure there are a few more that I am not thinking of right now. He will even sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist, an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a 21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever " we were doing. I believe differently of course! > I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't enough!) > > So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in the last few weeks! > > Sincerely, > > IL > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I am SO happy for all of you!! I can't wait until my son is able to speak in full sentences like that! What joy you must feel to not only hear them speak but UNDERSTAND what they're saying. So many parents just take that blessing forgranted. I know in time all of us will be having the same wonderful experience you are... I can't wait! Until then, I am thrilled to see what NV is doing my son's life! Sincerely, Romesa The NV Sheriff 334-220-8140 romesa1@... From: marymejia@... Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:04:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... Romesa, It's been so crazy. None of my boys suffer from any other issues that can be related to Apraxia. Maybe that's another reason why it's only been 3 weeks, and we've seen all these improvements. My son's SLP showed me his vocabulary list from his initial assesment (when he was diagnosed back in July/August). Everything was basically (water= ada, home=oma, me = nee,) most other words just sounded the same (adad, dada, ada dada). People would just look at me, as if I knew what he was saying, just yesterday he said: " mommy, I want water for me, Gabe and " and counted his brothers and himself on his fingers. I was floored. His lip rounding, and beginning and ending sounds have come along. He started with this particular SLP back in July/August. She is floored too. Today, I had them all with another SLP (goverment funded) and their last assesment was 1.5mth ago. Today, she said she had to re-evaulate them, as there was such a change from when she last saw them. My mother, who was sketical, called me crazy for giving my boys " foreign substances " can't believe how much she can understand the boys now. I'm crossing my fingers that the next 3 weeks will put them over the top! ________________________________ From: Romesa <romesa1@...> Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 12:59:34 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... Wow! That is amazing that your son went from moderate/severe to mild apraxia in just three weeks!!! I don't think anyone else has posted that it happened that quickly! Thank you so much for sharing your good news and your boy's progress. We are all eager to hear more so please, keep posting! Congratulations!!! Romesa The NV Sheriff 334-220-8140 romesa1@... From: marymejia@... Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:42:28 +0000 Subject: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... I am a mother of 39mth old triplets. It's been about 3 weeks that my boys have been on NV. It was amazing in the beginning, they had no problem taking it, and then they refused it. I found that taking them off for a day or two gave them a break...I snuck it in their vanilla pudding, and I think once they got used to the taste, they expect it in the morning before breakfast. A few months ago, one of the 3 was diagnosed with moderate to severe Apraxia. With combination speech therapy, and fish oils, there was a surge....then I tried NV....I did all the research, read all the posts, spoke to a Natural path doctors and had my boys pediatrician review it....they were all impressed. Now 3 weeks into NV (we're almost at a heaping scoop) My son has gone from moderate/severe apraxia, to mild apraxia. He is much more coherent, and is making 4-5 word sentences....all three of my boys are. They too are humming and singning, the tantrums are rarely happening, and they play so much better together. There coordiantion in tracing, and there new found love in the alphabet and numbers (both in english and in Spanish) has blown everyone away. I wanted to let the parents who are still on the fence read this. I was skeptical, very skeptical, bombarded with so many questions. Once the doctors gave me the go ahead, I had no reason not to try it. Also, my boys are heavy boys, they weighed over 40lbs, and although they didn't look it, felt very heavy. Since NV, they feel lighter, and have more energy ( in a positive way. I am very thankful for this product, and for this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Congratulations! > > > From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... > > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:59 AM > > Hi and all! Just like the message I sent out 2 weeks ago -I honestly believe we have a paradigm shift going on due to NV where we have individuals surging so quickly and dramatically at all ages that the average professional out there that doesn't know the research http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15272 & uid=115029735601 that food can repair neuro damage (at least proven in mice studies so far) I would like to put together some case studies on this just as I did for the seizures http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15306 & post=93938 & uid=115029735601#post93\ 938 These posts are just rough- I'm going to clean them up and am working on a new site. if I can share your story as well that will be great -and I don't have to put names. Also if anyone else wants to be included please email me at lisa@... We need to document this so that there is more awareness. too -her child went from a 10 month old level to a 21 month old level at > 26 months...in 2 weeks. More on this below. I now have the entire evaluation from from Kent University how her child went from severe to mild apraxia in 3 months- will be including that and taking out names -but all here know who it is. From what I have seen all parents are willing to speak with doctors -and most are willing to speak with other parents as well. This is just incredible news!! Here's the last message I sent out on this and nobody responded...come on -this is Exciting with a capital E!! > > [ ] Has NV created a paradigm shift? > > I got the following email from who's son surged from 10 to 21 month old level in speech on NV -and below is that is the message I sent out yesterday from about her 5 and a half year old not being qualified for services any longer either because he's doing so well. We need help from the SLPs and MDs in this group who have patients, clients, or children on NV to be able to write something up that explains the brain responds to multiple stimuli and just because these children have surges on NV doesn't mean they do not require services to further help them. The goal is to get these children up to speed and whether a random professional doesn't believe NV (or fish oils -same issues but never this extreme) created the surge. We know it's from the NV. If you are able to help by writing up case studies of your clients on NV who STILL need therapy - and why it's so important ..that parents can share to help maintain services please share. > > Hi , > > So, the news is good, but not as good as you might expect. Jack is doing great! He is talking in 3-6 word sentences now (He is 32 months old now.) He is able to say almost any word spontaneously now. I feel as though he is catching up but is not there yet because he will say three fluid words then pause where a pause is not needed and then a 4 word related phrase. " Horsee eat hay...in big red barn.) He is using adjectives and verbs. We worked hard on " ing " verb endings. He can say " man riding big red bike. " or other phrases like that. He has made tremendous progress considering he could only say maybe 5 words total in January of this year! I do attribute a lot of that to the Nutriiveda. (I believe he started Nutriiveda in late January or earl y February.) EI has reduced his speech from twice to once weekly since his last evaluation in August. I was not real happy with that but not much I could do. Our private speech therapist as well as the EI therapist > put him at around the 24 month mark for his speech (although I think it is a little better now.) Unfortunately our private speech therapist had to take a full time school job so he hasn't been able to see her anymore and we can't find another private therapist around here with good credentials and references. He is having his speech therapy at a local hospital once a week now. I am not pleased with the speech therapist there either. Jack has not taken to her very well and they make us sit in a pretty confined room (which is hard to ask of ANY two year old boy. SHe has also not done anything except play with him. I have been there for all but one session and I don't see her using any technique at all much less any specifically designed for Apraxia. She even told my husband that she thought Jack's speech was that of a typical 3 year old and that if she had evaluated him, then he would not be receiving services at all! NICE...probably why she is just > playing with him and not working/drilling him to advance speech. So, I am in the midst of working with his Service Coordinator to get us either back on the waiting list or working with a different speech therapist. It is frustrating. > > Jack is still receiving 1 - 1 and 1/2 scoops a day. The good news is that when Jack has been off of the Nutriiveda for 2-3-4 days, I no longer see any regression! That is the great news! I am thinking about bumping him up to 2 scoops a day. I agree with you in your thinking that there is some sort of repair going on. Jack isn't totally there yet, but considering where he came from, and the fact that he won't be three until January, I am very happy with his progress! I think I will probably always keep him on at least one scoop for general health purposes. He is a very good eater and he LOVES fruits and vegetables so I know he is getting all of nutrients he needs, but it can't hurt I figure! Well, thanks again for all of the support and guidance! For monthers like me and most of the others in the group, we would be lost without the group and people like you! Thanks again for all of your help! > > Talk to you soon, > > > and > > Of course you can share with the group. I am also worried because this new speech therapist says she is pretty sure he doesn't have Apraxia. It ticks me off because she said that after seeing him for less than an hour. I told her we have two other speech therapists and more importantly a doctor in Chicago that have diagnosed him with Apraxia. I guess she thinks she knows more than they do...which really worries me. It makes me wonder if she really even knows what it is much less how to provide therapy for it. I honestly feel like I give him more therapy than she does. I think you are right about the paradigm shift. I am glad Jack is doing so well, but I definitely think he still needs therapy. It is so frustrating. I wish the " people " who made these dicisions could walk a week in our shoes or better yet, a week in our children's shoes. It is sickening and disheartening. When they dropped Jack's services from 2 X per week to 1 ( " because he was > improving, " ) I said, so rather than keeping him at twice a week and getting him completely caught up by Kindergarten, let's decrease his services just enough to keep him behind all the way through school. I was irrate to put it mildly. I know you know the frustration all too well. > > Past messages: > Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Do any of you use Nutriiveda for your > > little ones (under 3)? > > Hello , > > Our 24 month old has been on NV for just over a week now. We have seen some tremendous increases in his speech. He is attempting many more words and is now " singing " along to some songs. I was very worried about trying this with my son at first as well. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician and plan to take it to his Pediatric Neurologist on March 1st. I do have my degree in science and have asked many other scientists where I work what their thoughts were about the product. No one thought there would be any problems. I also tried the product before I gave it to my son. I started him with 1/3 of a scoop twice a day for a few days and then increased to 1/2 a scoop twice a day. I am thinking about waiting another week and then stopping the NV to see if there is any regression. Again, our son's only additional supplements are the ProEPA and ProEFA. I will keep you posted on any additional improvements! > > > > Hello, > > Yes, we just started our 25month old son on NutriiVeda on February 1st. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician before I started him on it. He takes ½ of a scoop in the morning and ½ of a scoop with dinner. I have already seen some good results! He has just begun with two word sentences (approximations) which he had never done before. I was waiting to post until after he had been on it for a few weeks, but we are so excited about the progress he has made in just 4 and ½ days! (As a side note...Our son is also on the ProEFA and ProEPA but he has never been on any other supplements [other than a Flintstones vitamin]) > > I hope this helps. > > > > IL > > RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update > > Hello Everyone, > I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS. My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P " consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6 month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip and tongue. > After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our 24 and & #65533; month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I - wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I am sure there are a few more that I am not > thinking of right now. He will even sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist, an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a 21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever " we were doing. I believe differently of course! > I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't enough!) > > So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in the last few weeks! > > Sincerely, > > IL > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 What happens when your child progresses so well on NV they no longer qualify for services? As an SLP would you advise we pull them off for evaluations? Kate > > > From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... > > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:59 AM > > Hi and all! Just like the message I sent out 2 weeks ago -I honestly believe we have a paradigm shift going on due to NV where we have individuals surging so quickly and dramatically at all ages that the average professional out there that doesn't know the research http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15272 & uid=115029735601 that food can repair neuro damage (at least proven in mice studies so far) I would like to put together some case studies on this just as I did for the seizures http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15306 & post=93938 & uid=115029735601#post93\ 938 These posts are just rough- I'm going to clean them up and am working on a new site. if I can share your story as well that will be great -and I don't have to put names. Also if anyone else wants to be included please email me at lisa@... We need to document this so that there is more awareness. too -her child went from a 10 month old level to a 21 month old level at > 26 months...in 2 weeks. More on this below. I now have the entire evaluation from from Kent University how her child went from severe to mild apraxia in 3 months- will be including that and taking out names -but all here know who it is. From what I have seen all parents are willing to speak with doctors -and most are willing to speak with other parents as well. This is just incredible news!! Here's the last message I sent out on this and nobody responded...come on -this is Exciting with a capital E!! > > [ ] Has NV created a paradigm shift? > > I got the following email from who's son surged from 10 to 21 month old level in speech on NV -and below is that is the message I sent out yesterday from about her 5 and a half year old not being qualified for services any longer either because he's doing so well. We need help from the SLPs and MDs in this group who have patients, clients, or children on NV to be able to write something up that explains the brain responds to multiple stimuli and just because these children have surges on NV doesn't mean they do not require services to further help them. The goal is to get these children up to speed and whether a random professional doesn't believe NV (or fish oils -same issues but never this extreme) created the surge. We know it's from the NV. If you are able to help by writing up case studies of your clients on NV who STILL need therapy - and why it's so important ..that parents can share to help maintain services please share. > > Hi , > > So, the news is good, but not as good as you might expect. Jack is doing great! He is talking in 3-6 word sentences now (He is 32 months old now.) He is able to say almost any word spontaneously now. I feel as though he is catching up but is not there yet because he will say three fluid words then pause where a pause is not needed and then a 4 word related phrase. " Horsee eat hay...in big red barn.) He is using adjectives and verbs. We worked hard on " ing " verb endings. He can say " man riding big red bike. " or other phrases like that. He has made tremendous progress considering he could only say maybe 5 words total in January of this year! I do attribute a lot of that to the Nutriiveda. (I believe he started Nutriiveda in late January or earl y February.) EI has reduced his speech from twice to once weekly since his last evaluation in August. I was not real happy with that but not much I could do. Our private speech therapist as well as the EI therapist > put him at around the 24 month mark for his speech (although I think it is a little better now.) Unfortunately our private speech therapist had to take a full time school job so he hasn't been able to see her anymore and we can't find another private therapist around here with good credentials and references. He is having his speech therapy at a local hospital once a week now. I am not pleased with the speech therapist there either. Jack has not taken to her very well and they make us sit in a pretty confined room (which is hard to ask of ANY two year old boy. SHe has also not done anything except play with him. I have been there for all but one session and I don't see her using any technique at all much less any specifically designed for Apraxia. She even told my husband that she thought Jack's speech was that of a typical 3 year old and that if she had evaluated him, then he would not be receiving services at all! NICE...probably why she is just > playing with him and not working/drilling him to advance speech. So, I am in the midst of working with his Service Coordinator to get us either back on the waiting list or working with a different speech therapist. It is frustrating. > > Jack is still receiving 1 - 1 and 1/2 scoops a day. The good news is that when Jack has been off of the Nutriiveda for 2-3-4 days, I no longer see any regression! That is the great news! I am thinking about bumping him up to 2 scoops a day. I agree with you in your thinking that there is some sort of repair going on. Jack isn't totally there yet, but considering where he came from, and the fact that he won't be three until January, I am very happy with his progress! I think I will probably always keep him on at least one scoop for general health purposes. He is a very good eater and he LOVES fruits and vegetables so I know he is getting all of nutrients he needs, but it can't hurt I figure! Well, thanks again for all of the support and guidance! For monthers like me and most of the others in the group, we would be lost without the group and people like you! Thanks again for all of your help! > > Talk to you soon, > > > and > > Of course you can share with the group. I am also worried because this new speech therapist says she is pretty sure he doesn't have Apraxia. It ticks me off because she said that after seeing him for less than an hour. I told her we have two other speech therapists and more importantly a doctor in Chicago that have diagnosed him with Apraxia. I guess she thinks she knows more than they do...which really worries me. It makes me wonder if she really even knows what it is much less how to provide therapy for it. I honestly feel like I give him more therapy than she does. I think you are right about the paradigm shift. I am glad Jack is doing so well, but I definitely think he still needs therapy. It is so frustrating. I wish the " people " who made these dicisions could walk a week in our shoes or better yet, a week in our children's shoes. It is sickening and disheartening. When they dropped Jack's services from 2 X per week to 1 ( " because he was > improving, " ) I said, so rather than keeping him at twice a week and getting him completely caught up by Kindergarten, let's decrease his services just enough to keep him behind all the way through school. I was irrate to put it mildly. I know you know the frustration all too well. > > Past messages: > Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Do any of you use Nutriiveda for your > > little ones (under 3)? > > Hello , > > Our 24 month old has been on NV for just over a week now. We have seen some tremendous increases in his speech. He is attempting many more words and is now " singing " along to some songs. I was very worried about trying this with my son at first as well. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician and plan to take it to his Pediatric Neurologist on March 1st. I do have my degree in science and have asked many other scientists where I work what their thoughts were about the product. No one thought there would be any problems. I also tried the product before I gave it to my son. I started him with 1/3 of a scoop twice a day for a few days and then increased to 1/2 a scoop twice a day. I am thinking about waiting another week and then stopping the NV to see if there is any regression. Again, our son's only additional supplements are the ProEPA and ProEFA. I will keep you posted on any additional improvements! > > > > Hello, > > Yes, we just started our 25month old son on NutriiVeda on February 1st. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician before I started him on it. He takes ½ of a scoop in the morning and ½ of a scoop with dinner. I have already seen some good results! He has just begun with two word sentences (approximations) which he had never done before. I was waiting to post until after he had been on it for a few weeks, but we are so excited about the progress he has made in just 4 and ½ days! (As a side note...Our son is also on the ProEFA and ProEPA but he has never been on any other supplements [other than a Flintstones vitamin]) > > I hope this helps. > > > > IL > > RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update > > Hello Everyone, > I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS. My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a private speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a speech therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P " consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6 month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip and tongue. > After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our 24 and & #65533; month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant sounds now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist when I started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was mimicking and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole sentences: I will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I - wan - moe - ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more spontaneous approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously and perfectly: " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I am sure there are a few more that I am not > thinking of right now. He will even sing along with his new CD aimed at children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it has been about a month now since he was evaluated to be 12 months expressively and I took him to Chicago to see a Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal diagnoses) on Friday. There was a speech therapist, a developmental therapist, an occupational therapist, a child psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the room for his evaluation. They determined that his expressive speech is now at a 21 month level! That means he went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in less than a month (and two weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was the group that evaluated him! I did bring a label and some of our group's information to let them know about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much dismissed that it could be the Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever " we were doing. I believe differently of course! > I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't enough!) > > So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in the last few weeks! > > Sincerely, > > IL > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 If you child was diagnosed with moderate to severe apraxia then were diagnosed with mild apraxia in just 3 weeks after being on NV... even if your child WAS allergic.... it's doing an amazing job so keep him on it!!! I don't think you realize how far your child has come in such a short time period. This is amazing ! What more were you wanting/expecting? If you just leave them on it and give it time, with therapy, your mind will be blown away. You must be patient though. A lot of good things are happening behind the scenes that are causing these huge improvements that you CAN see. Who knows how these other supplements might throw off the effects of the NV or overdose your child in some way!!! I would be very careful!!! Better yet, chunk them out the window and stick with what you KNOW works! I do understand your desire to " try anything " but, you've found something that is SAFE, ALL NATURAL and WORKS. Just stick with it and give it time. Pumping your children with so many different things cannot be safe or wise in my opinion. Please consider what I've suggested. Sincerely, Romesa The NV Sheriff 334-220-8140 romesa1@... From: marymejia@... Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:11:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... yes, he was aware. he has not asked me to remove it forever, just for 3-6 weeks, to see if my son has an allergy to whey. After talking to everyone here, and following my own instincts, I have decided that NV is an essential support to my sons, and actually started them up on it today. It is hard to understand whether a naturapath doctor is going to give your child the best. I, like many of you, will try anything, until of course, it doesn't make an sense. Some of the supplements I will continue to give my son, and see how they work with NV. ________________________________ From: " saladmansrap86@... " <saladmansrap86@...> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:12:22 AM Subject: [ ] Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the success.... your recent message about your triplets and your one son going from a diagnosis of moderate/severe apraxia to mild in 3 weeks on NV was one of those too good to be true messages. Other people answered it so I saw it more than once,so indeed was quite shocked to see your message earlier today that a Naturalpathic tried to pull your son from the brilliant path he was on. Was he aware of what you wrote below? It is my belief he did not hear or believe you or he should not be advising in this area. your message > > I am a mother of 39mth old triplets. It's been about 3 weeks that my boys >have been on NV. It was amazing in the beginning, they had no problem taking it, >and then they refused it. I found that taking them off for a day or two gave >them a break...I snuck it in their vanilla pudding, and I think once they got >used to the taste, they expect it in the morning before breakfast. > > > > A few months ago, one of the 3 was diagnosed with moderate to severe Apraxia. >With combination speech therapy, and fish oils, there was a surge....then I >tried NV....I did all the research, read all the posts, spoke to a Natural path >doctors and had my boys pediatrician review it....they were all impressed. > > > > Now 3 weeks into NV (we're almost at a heaping scoop) My son has gone from >moderate/severe apraxia, to mild apraxia. He is much more coherent, and is >making 4-5 word sentences....all three of my boys are. They too are humming and >singning, the tantrums are rarely happening, and they play so much better >together. There coordiantion in tracing, and there new found love in the >alphabet and numbers (both in english and in Spanish) has blown everyone away. > > > > I wanted to let the parents who are still on the fence read this. I was >skeptical, very skeptical, bombarded with so many questions. Once the >doctors gave me the go ahead, I had no reason not to try it. > > > > Also, my boys are heavy boys, they weighed over 40lbs, and although they >didn't look it, felt very heavy. Since NV, they feel lighter, and have more >energy ( in a positive way. > > > > I am very thankful for this product, and for this site. > > > From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Our story of Nutriiveda.....and the >success.... > > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:59 AM > > Hi and all! Just like the message I sent out 2 weeks ago -I honestly >believe we have a paradigm shift going on due to NV where we have individuals >surging so quickly and dramatically at all ages that the average professional >out there that doesn't know the research >http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15272 & uid=115029735601 that food can >repair neuro damage (at least proven in mice studies so far) I would like to put >together some case studies on this just as I did for the seizures >http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15306 & post=93938 & uid=115029735601#post9\ 3938 > These posts are just rough- I'm going to clean them up and am working on a new >site. if I can share your story as well that will be great -and I don't >have to put names. Also if anyone else wants to be included please email me at >lisa@... We need to document this so that there is more awareness. too >-her child went from a 10 month old level to a 21 month old level at > 26 months...in 2 weeks. More on this below. I now have the entire evaluation >from from Kent University how her child went from severe to mild >apraxia in 3 months- will be including that and taking out names -but all here >know who it is. From what I have seen all parents are willing to speak with >doctors -and most are willing to speak with other parents as well. This is just >incredible news!! Here's the last message I sent out on this and nobody >responded...come on -this is Exciting with a capital E!! > > [ ] Has NV created a paradigm shift? > > I got the following email from who's son surged from 10 to 21 month old >level in speech on NV -and below is that is the message I sent out yesterday >from about her 5 and a half year old not being qualified for services >any longer either because he's doing so well. We need help from the SLPs and MDs >in this group who have patients, clients, or children on NV to be able to write >something up that explains the brain responds to multiple stimuli and just >because these children have surges on NV doesn't mean they do not require >services to further help them. The goal is to get these children up to speed and >whether a random professional doesn't believe NV (or fish oils -same issues but >never this extreme) created the surge. We know it's from the NV. If you are able >to help by writing up case studies of your clients on NV who STILL need therapy >- and why it's so important ..that parents can share to help maintain services >please share. > > Hi , > > So, the news is good, but not as good as you might expect. Jack is doing great! >He is talking in 3-6 word sentences now (He is 32 months old now.) He is able to >say almost any word spontaneously now. I feel as though he is catching up but is >not there yet because he will say three fluid words then pause where a pause is >not needed and then a 4 word related phrase. " Horsee eat hay...in big red barn.) >He is using adjectives and verbs. We worked hard on " ing " verb endings. He can >say " man riding big red bike. " or other phrases like that. He has made >tremendous progress considering he could only say maybe 5 words total in January >of this year! I do attribute a lot of that to the Nutriiveda. (I believe he >started Nutriiveda in late January or earl y February.) EI has reduced his >speech from twice to once weekly since his last evaluation in August. I was not >real happy with that but not much I could do. Our private speech therapist as >well as the EI therapist > put him at around the 24 month mark for his speech (although I think it is a >little better now.) Unfortunately our private speech therapist had to take a >full time school job so he hasn't been able to see her anymore and we can't find >another private therapist around here with good credentials and references. He >is having his speech therapy at a local hospital once a week now. I am not >pleased with the speech therapist there either. Jack has not taken to her very >well and they make us sit in a pretty confined room (which is hard to ask of ANY >two year old boy. SHe has also not done anything except play with him. I have >been there for all but one session and I don't see her using any technique at >all much less any specifically designed for Apraxia. She even told my husband >that she thought Jack's speech was that of a typical 3 year old and that if she >had evaluated him, then he would not be receiving services at all! >NICE...probably why she is just > playing with him and not working/drilling him to advance speech. So, I am in >the midst of working with his Service Coordinator to get us either back on the >waiting list or working with a different speech therapist. It is frustrating. > > Jack is still receiving 1 - 1 and 1/2 scoops a day. The good news is that when >Jack has been off of the Nutriiveda for 2-3-4 days, I no longer see any >regression! That is the great news! I am thinking about bumping him up to 2 >scoops a day. I agree with you in your thinking that there is some sort of >repair going on. Jack isn't totally there yet, but considering where he came >from, and the fact that he won't be three until January, I am very happy with >his progress! I think I will probably always keep him on at least one scoop for >general health purposes. He is a very good eater and he LOVES fruits and >vegetables so I know he is getting all of nutrients he needs, but it can't hurt >I figure! Well, thanks again for all of the support and guidance! For monthers >like me and most of the others in the group, we would be lost without the group >and people like you! Thanks again for all of your help! > > Talk to you soon, > > > and > > Of course you can share with the group. I am also worried because this new >speech therapist says she is pretty sure he doesn't have Apraxia. It ticks me >off because she said that after seeing him for less than an hour. I told her we >have two other speech therapists and more importantly a doctor in Chicago that >have diagnosed him with Apraxia. I guess she thinks she knows more than they >do...which really worries me. It makes me wonder if she really even knows what >it is much less how to provide therapy for it. I honestly feel like I give him >more therapy than she does. I think you are right about the paradigm shift. I am >glad Jack is doing so well, but I definitely think he still needs therapy. It is >so frustrating. I wish the " people " who made these dicisions could walk a week >in our shoes or better yet, a week in our children's shoes. It is sickening and >disheartening. When they dropped Jack's services from 2 X per week to 1 >( " because he was > improving, " ) I said, so rather than keeping him at twice a week and getting >him completely caught up by Kindergarten, let's decrease his services just >enough to keep him behind all the way through school. I was irrate to put it >mildly. I know you know the frustration all too well. > > Past messages: > Subject: RE: [childrensapraxiane t] Do any of you use Nutriiveda for your > > little ones (under 3)? > > Hello , > > Our 24 month old has been on NV for just over a week now. We have seen some >tremendous increases in his speech. He is attempting many more words and is now > " singing " along to some songs. I was very worried about trying this with my son >at first as well. I did have it approved by his Pediatrician and plan to take it >to his Pediatric Neurologist on March 1st. I do have my degree in science and >have asked many other scientists where I work what their thoughts were about the >product. No one thought there would be any problems. I also tried the product >before I gave it to my son. I started him with 1/3 of a scoop twice a day for a >few days and then increased to 1/2 a scoop twice a day. I am thinking about >waiting another week and then stopping the NV to see if there is any regression. >Again, our son's only additional supplements are the ProEPA and ProEFA. I will >keep you posted on any additional improvements! > > > > Hello, > > Yes, we just started our 25month old son on NutriiVeda on February 1st. I did >have it approved by his Pediatrician before I started him on it. He takes ½ of a >scoop in the morning and ½ of a scoop with dinner. I have already seen some good >results! He has just begun with two word sentences (approximations) which he had >never done before. I was waiting to post until after he had been on it for a few >weeks, but we are so excited about the progress he has made in just 4 and ½ >days! (As a side note...Our son is also on the ProEFA and ProEPA but he has >never been on any other supplements [other than a Flintstones vitamin]) > > I hope this helps. > > > > IL > > RE: [ ] 25month old son on NutriiVeda update > > Hello Everyone, > I wanted to give you all an update on my 25 month old son Diagnosed with CAS. >My son started on the NN fish oils when he was 20 months old with a small surge >in soft vowel production. (He previously had no words and made very few sound >other than grunting and pointing.) He also started Speech therapy with a private >speech therapist once a week at that time (because EI did not have a speech >therapist available and still doesn't.) He began using " B, " " M, " and " P " >consonants with soft vowels at around 23months but he had no words and was not >mimicking any sounds. At 24 months he did start to pick up some animal sound >approximations " ba and moo " and was able to say " moe " for more. We had his 6 >month re-evaluation (through EI) in the middle of January. They evaluated his >expressive language to be at 12 months and increased his therapy to twice a >week. (He has no other delays.) He does have some hypotonia in his lower lip and >tongue. > After careful consideration and the " OK " from his pediatrician, I started our >24 and � month old son on Nutriiveda on February 1st. It has been two weeks and >we have seen him go from 1-2 word approximations to well over 50 word >approximations! He will try to mimic anything I ask him too. He even has some >two word approximations: " la oo " for love you! He can make all consonant sounds >now except for " j, t, d, and s. " I did not tell his speech therapist when I >started him and she could not believe the difference! She said he was mimicking >and trying any word she asked! I can now get him to mimic whole sentences: I >will say one word at a time and he will repeat it. He will say " I - wan - moe - >ruck - pees " for I want more truck please. He has many more spontaneous >approximations as well. He can even say some words spontaneously and perfectly: > " pop, happy, me, my, mama, baby, go, up, yeah, wee, uh-oh " and I am sure there >are a few more that I am not > thinking of right now. He will even sing along with his new CD aimed at >children with CAS " Drills on Wheels! " So it has been about a month now since he >was evaluated to be 12 months expressively and I took him to Chicago to see a >Developmental Pediatrician (to get a formal diagnoses) on Friday. There was a >speech therapist, a developmental therapist, an occupational therapist, a child >psychiatrist, and the Pediatrician in the room for his evaluation. They >determined that his expressive speech is now at a 21 month level! That means he >went from a 12 month level to a 21 month level in less than a month (and two >weeks on the Nutriiveda!) We were amazed and so was the group that evaluated >him! I did bring a label and some of our group's information to let them know >about the Nutriiveda, but they pretty much dismissed that it could be the >Nutriiveda. They told us to keep doing " whatever " we were doing. I believe >differently of course! > I can't say that there have been many other noticeable changes in my son, but >he has never had any behavioral problems and he has always been very social. I >do think he focuses a little better during his speech therapy sessions but other >than that, I haven't noticed any other changes. (As if the speech wasn't >enough!) > > So, thank you for bringing this wonderful product to our group and I hope >that all of you see as many great changes in your children as we have seen in >the last few weeks! > > Sincerely, > > IL > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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