Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Hi Ruby! Since you only used a half dosage -just 1/2 scoop just for one day (yesterday) that would not even be enough product or time to know for sure if there would be any surges or regressions on the nutriiveda in my opinion. We are now aware that the nutriiveda appears to be dosage dependent. I'm not saying your child's difference in speaking today isn't from it -but to me it's highly doubtful. I mean if a few hours after giving the nutriiveda for the first day at a half dosage your son said a full sentence that wouldn't mean it's from the nutriiveda either. Works both ways -we have to look at this logically. I also can tell you that there are things that are perfectly benign which cause regression in my son- such as fiber (and probiotics -most of them) which in the case of fiber my son's then gastroenterologist said it could be the fiber is short chaining the long chain fatty acids in the gut. Doesn't mean that the fiber is bad for him -but it is if he needs the fish oils. We have not seen any signs that the nutriiveda interferes with the fish oils for those of us who have our children on fish oils (in cases like mine for years) This however is exactly the reason I don't recommend starting 2 things at the same time. It could be perfectly normal that your child wasn't feeling well or rested -or was more stressed today regardless of a 1/2 scoop of nutriiveda yesterday and without the nutriiveda you would have just wondered why the off day. Now most likely you'll be afraid to try the nutriiveda -sad. Here's what I would do if I were you 1. Stop the nutriiveda and just use the fish oils for the next few weeks 2. Today or tomorrow call your child's doctor again and tell him what you saw -share the label http://www.up0.net/content/666799/Choco_NutritionFacts.pdf and ask if there is anything in there that could be harmful for a child...with 1/2 scoop...for one day. 3. I would try the nutriiveda again and see if the same thing happens. I suspect it was more coincidental as again I can't imagine the one time dosage you gave having any effect. If you decide you don't want to try it again keep in mind that the nutriiveda comes with a 100 percent money back guarantee. We must not compare speak with nutriiveda -two completely different...the speak was very rarely approved by any doctors I know- had mega mega mega dosages of vitamin e and k in it -and we don't need to talk about it again here if nobody else wants or needs to. Nutriiveda has from what I've been assured by doctors, nutritionists, a writer for nutrition, a doctor of fitness, ayurvedic professionals, natural doctors and my body builder friends just impressive good nutrition in it. It is even possible your child is reacting to the stress of you trying to get him to take this new product. Don't know. I do know that I personally would not consider this a regression. I mean we'll include it just like the parent that reported the rash after 2 days -but appears to be highly highly unlikely a regression. Again to me the saddest is that most likely now you'll never know if nutriiveda could have worked for your child -poor nutriiveda never had the chance Hope your child is back to his new normal today or tomorrow! ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Hello Ruby, When we started our son on 1 scoop the first week, I did not see anything[good or bad]. At that point my main goal was to make his body used to it. the second week when I increased it to 2 scoops we saw lots of babbling. As far as I remember most of the Moms reported seeing any kind of reactions [positive and negative] after atleast 4-5 days on it. On 2 scoops my son[7 yrs old] was very hyper...he did not settle down even after a week on it. when i stopped for 3 days he did lose some of the syllables and words. But when I reintroduced his fish oils and reduced the dosage of nutriiveda to 11/2 scoop he gained all lost grounds. I can very well understand as a Mom what will happen if it is stopped. Will it be like SPEAK? I think we cannot compare SPEAK and NUTRIIVEDA. Both are on different platform. I can only relate to things to Nurtiiveda because I have never used SPEAK. Nutriiveda has never been introduced as a supplement but all the natural botanicals in it have properties which is somehow making the absorption of essential ingredients right into the cell and discarding the unwanted out of the body.....like a normal, healthy body should do. Which is huge as far as our kids are concerned because there is a definite malabsorption of essential ingredients hence the delay in speech. The biggest factor that swayed me into giving my child is it is all natural. I have given lots of supplements just thinking that my child will speak...but each time I made him swallow I hoped there was something natural that could be given.And when nutriiveda was brought to my attention with known igredients, i just accepted it. I cook everyday using Turmeric. But turmeric , which is full of good properties, alone has not helped him. But the combo of all the ayurvedic ingredients with the other natural ingredients in nutriiveda is somehow helping him[ to roll his tongue]. At this point my main goal is to speed up his language. Hope this eased up your concern, sowmya > > Hi there, > > I was just reading over some of the NV posts, and noticed, with interest about the comments you had on the SPEAK - in particular the regression. > > Now here is my concern. After a week on fish oil I noticed huge improvements in my 24mth son. Two days ago I started him on NV. I actually only managed to get a half dose into him on day one, and the second day couldn't get any into him. I noticed yesterday afternoon/evening, that all the sounds and word approximations that he had gained, and been using for about 4 days seemed to have disappeared. > > As I've read that there are regressions if the use of NV is stopped, I was wondering for how long this would be the case - as you mentioned on stopping the SPEAK your boy kept his regressions for 7mths. If you were using NV and then stopped would a child return to where he was prior to the use of it (unlike the SPEAK)? > > I'm a little concerned about putting him back to where he was prior to the fish oils if I am unable to get the NV into him on a regular, daily basis. Thanks for any help you may be able to offer on this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 I wouldn't say it's regression, apraxia is just so frustrating. We saw so many surges on the fish oils when we started them a few years ago but my son still has good days and not as good days in speech. We know how well he is doing but sometimes I just wish it would be easier and faster. I too read all the messages about nutriiveda and hope this could help with another surge. I checked with my son's doctor and he said it was OK to use, but I guess I am afraid to try it still. Not because there is anything bad in it but what if it doesn't work for us? Does that make sense? Kate > > > > Hi there, > > > > I was just reading over some of the NV posts, and noticed, with interest about the comments you had on the SPEAK - in particular the regression. > > > > Now here is my concern. After a week on fish oil I noticed huge improvements in my 24mth son. Two days ago I started him on NV. I actually only managed to get a half dose into him on day one, and the second day couldn't get any into him. I noticed yesterday afternoon/evening, that all the sounds and word approximations that he had gained, and been using for about 4 days seemed to have disappeared. > > > > As I've read that there are regressions if the use of NV is stopped, I was wondering for how long this would be the case - as you mentioned on stopping the SPEAK your boy kept his regressions for 7mths. If you were using NV and then stopped would a child return to where he was prior to the use of it (unlike the SPEAK)? > > > > I'm a little concerned about putting him back to where he was prior to the fish oils if I am unable to get the NV into him on a regular, daily basis. Thanks for any help you may be able to offer on this. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Ruby, I have not yet tried nutriiveda but have it on order and after reading posts and giving it serious consideration I am not afraid of trying it because there is nothing in it, that I can see, that would cause regressions. I see where you feel concern over the regression after exciting gains, but it seems so unlikely the half dose your son took only one time would cause a regression.Was he really tired,or maybe he is coming down with something? But since you stopped it I think you should just stick with the fish oil a few more weeks and watch what changes you see with only that. I've done exactly what you have and tried a few new things at once,or within a week or two of each other, saw gains at first and then on more than one occassion had regressions with our daughter, and would be confused and totally dismayed with the setbacks. We all want to try anything that sounds like it will help, but we can't try to to it all at once(listen to me! the queen of over zealousness )-- I actually still have to keep reminding myself after all these years to take it slowly.(our daughter is 6 and we found out she has apraxia at 2). In my opinion the regressions for some children caused by supplements like SPEAK are because of extraordinary amounts of certain vitamins.And if they weren't defficient it caused more harm than good.Also.vitamins and supplements should be used synergistically or something else will get out of wack. Your question about regressions after stopping something that is helpful, like fish oils or Nutiiveda, is something I wondered, and from my experience and from reading posts here along time ago,the regressions didn't seem to set the children back to where they started because they usually make true honest progress--but we never want any set backs.Again, that is when stopping something helpful. 's son's regressions, and my daughter's regressions were very remarkable because they were taking something that had excessive amounts of supplements or vitamins so that type of regression is different. My concern ,that I will keep a close watch on, is aggitation,anxiety,bad behavior because we've seen this before with high amounts of certain vitamins,so, even in that case I shouldn't worry too much because all of the ingredients in nutiiveda are not in excess,are well balanced,and synergistic. It's awesome your son made progress like that so quickly on the fish oils. I remember when our daughter was 2 and we started fish oils and within 3 days said " wheee " on a family bike ride, and called me mama, and said " moh " when she wanted more instead of pointing and grunting. It was like a miracle.And ,although, slowly she kept getting more and more. We can't keep her quiet now. She is still stuggling with clarity and sentence structure errors but she is a chatter box!! I hope all is well soon. Cheryl > > Hi there, > > I was just reading over some of the NV posts, and noticed, with interest about the comments you had on the SPEAK - in particular the regression. > > Now here is my concern. After a week on fish oil I noticed huge improvements in my 24mth son. Two days ago I started him on NV. I actually only managed to get a half dose into him on day one, and the second day couldn't get any into him. I noticed yesterday afternoon/evening, that all the sounds and word approximations that he had gained, and been using for about 4 days seemed to have disappeared. > > As I've read that there are regressions if the use of NV is stopped, I was wondering for how long this would be the case - as you mentioned on stopping the SPEAK your boy kept his regressions for 7mths. If you were using NV and then stopped would a child return to where he was prior to the use of it (unlike the SPEAK)? > > I'm a little concerned about putting him back to where he was prior to the fish oils if I am unable to get the NV into him on a regular, daily basis. Thanks for any help you may be able to offer on this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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