Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Hi - , I'm sure you know this, just putting in my two cents on the term used (didn't read the article and have no idea of accuracy) :-) My understanding is that the term " childhood apraxia of speech " came to distinguish between adults who end up with apraxia of speech due to stroke or brain injury, and is not to imply other cognitive delays - just that they are a child with it. Developmental Apraxia, Developmental Coordination Disorder, etc. also came about to distinguish that it is something from birth, and not due to stroke, brain injury, etc. Unfortunately the insurance companies read " developmental " and think " developmental delays " , etc. Actually I think it's the medical community's attempts to distinguish between kids who are born with it and people who get it after normal speech development but then have stroke/brain injury. Anyway, I guess a rose by any other name is still a rose. :-) I've decided alot of these names are just " flavor of the month " , and the medical community chooses what fits them best at any given point in time. Unfortunately it makes it confusing for everybody in the misinterpretations that come with some of the names. I love how Ratcliffe talks about his Dyspraxia on Actor's Studio. He's so cute - " I keep waiting for velcro to become a fashion craze! " . :-) Have a great day! Diane > > " Karsen had apraxia, an uncommon neurological disorder that in his case meant he had the cognitive ability of a child half his age. " > http://www.lenconnect.com/features/x1270136011/-family-shares-experiences-\ after-son-s-diagnosis-with-apraxia > > This article refers to the what I consider cruel name " childhood apraxia of speech " (or CAS which stands for the same thing) which implies either apraxia will be outgrown in childhood, or as in the case of this article that there is some sort of " developmental " or " childhood " limited ability of neurological function...which I didn't believe would negatively affect children until they were teens and adults and it's part of their school and medical records that they have " childhood apraxia of speech " If I were any of you with CAS or Childhood Apraxia Of Speech in your child's records I would get it removed immediately and switched to just " apraxia " or " vebal apraxia " or even " apraxia of speech " etc. I have all my life an ability to see things before it hits the fan, so if you don't do this don't say I didn't warn you. Again when my son Tanner was diagnosed in 1999 there was no CAS or childhood apraxia of speech -there was DAS and developmental apraxia of speech -and we GOT RID OF IT!!! for many reasons...so who brought it back?!! Not this group!!! > > The UK had it right with just calling it " dyspraxia " Radcliffe (Harry Potter) grew up and still has " dyspraxia " Can anyone imagine the horror for him if in the UK the articles came out as they would saying that - the star of Harry Potter grew up with and still suffers from childhood dyspraxia (of ___ not sure of what his diagnosis were but fill in the blanks and make the name longer and longer and even more ridiculous) > > Awareness for apraxia is ONLY good if the information is accurate and what we want to share. I would rather there was no article at all than one that implies apraxia affects cognitive function (to half the age) and that it's " rare " Apraxia is NOT rare!!! There are way more with apraxia than autism and there are so many with autism that have apraxia and yet you don't see them calling autism rare! You know why? Because apraxia as of now has no monies yet. Which is why we are working on this with our " Pursuit of Research " http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html > > If anyone would like to know more information about what we are raising monies for email me at lisa@... or call me 772 335 5135 if you'd like to help. We together are not just a walk, we are a movement! > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Thanks Diane I do appreciate that point as that would be the only reason -however like diabetes if one doesn't outgrow a condition and feels the need to separate the two (if there are two) then why not type 1 and type 2. But...I'm convinced that for example my son has acquired apraxia because he regressed at 11 months after the fevers etc. So if the point was the separate those that are born with apraxia vs those that acquire it I believe we are putting the cart before the horse since we have a condition that doesn't fit the diagnostic description from 50 years ago (as autism doesn't either) and unlike autism virtually zero research and awareness. In my opinion until we know the reason for the rise in the children we can't and shouldn't (in my opinion) separate child from adult onset -because prove to me they are different. And of course I don't mean you!!! I mean this is why we need research. But in the meantime having a now 14 year old son with apraxia who at 9 said to me in some way that he no longer wanted to be called a boy but wanted to be called instead a " young man " that the diagnosis name " childhood apraxia of speech " is a name that like developmental apraxia of speech needs to be eliminated. Parents of young children would not know any better in most cases. Again when the diagnosis back when Tanner was diagnosed was DAS or developmental apraxia of speech if anyone wrote DAS or developmental in any of his reports or evaluations or school records I had them remove it. Perhaps because I tend to be more of a visionary and look toward the future -and perhaps because I knew that apraxia is not a developmental condition -just like we know from this group that even if apraxia starts in childhood -it's not a childhood condition either. And yes HP Velcro. Don't you worry -I have my eye on that young man for our movie!!!! I just pray he will help us raise awareness- and know that he will be such an incredible inspiration to so many little boys and girls with apraxia/dyspraxia all over the world! He already is to those few that know! ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I agree! Sometimes the distinctions made with these labels are silly, and you brought up a good point that children can acquire apraxia after birth, but they are still kids, so what then? - ultimately it's there and we need to understand it and it's many forms/causes and do something about it - and research is the only way to find out! Labels are always frustrating. I have seen in some diagnostic codes a place for a write-in for cause, so " Apraxia due to ___________________ " so that the diagnosis is the same, but a place to specify origin if known. Sometimes helpful for doctors, etc. For me, I'm more interested in what my kids are currently struggling with and what we need to do to support them that helps ease the frustration and increases their ability to express themselves and be successful than what label they have. However, I know it's important to have an accurate way of saying what they have so it can be communicated to doctors, therapists, teachers, etc. That leads to my other favorite soapbox - Education!!!! :-) To this day it amazes me how many preschool, elementary, and upper grade teachers who have never heard of dyspraxia and sensory processing disorders. I know many child/adolescent psychotherapists who haven't heard of it either (or have limited familiarity), and since it can mimic things that some would prescribe medicine for (like ADD-type symptoms since working memory can be affected - both my kids this way), it's so important to know about! I am going to try and get my OT to do a workshop at the place I work and invite child therapists, OT's, ST's, and Teachers to come learn about it. That is on my agenda for 2011! :-) I wonder why they are so much more aware in the UK than the US? Anyone have any thoughts? > > Thanks Diane I do appreciate that point as that would be the only reason -however like diabetes if one doesn't outgrow a condition and feels the need to separate the two (if there are two) then why not type 1 and type 2. But...I'm convinced that for example my son has acquired apraxia because he regressed at 11 months after the fevers etc. So if the point was the separate those that are born with apraxia vs those that acquire it I believe we are putting the cart before the horse since we have a condition that doesn't fit the diagnostic description from 50 years ago (as autism doesn't either) and unlike autism virtually zero research and awareness. In my opinion until we know the reason for the rise in the children we can't and shouldn't (in my opinion) separate child from adult onset -because prove to me they are different. And of course I don't mean you!!! I mean this is why we need research. But in the meantime having a now 14 year old son with apraxia who at 9 said to me in some way that he no longer wanted to be called a boy but wanted to be called instead a " young man " that the diagnosis name " childhood apraxia of speech " is a name that like developmental apraxia of speech needs to be eliminated. Parents of young children would not know any better in most cases. Again when the diagnosis back when Tanner was diagnosed was DAS or developmental apraxia of speech if anyone wrote DAS or developmental in any of his reports or evaluations or school records I had them remove it. Perhaps because I tend to be more of a visionary and look toward the future -and perhaps because I knew that apraxia is not a developmental condition -just like we know from this group that even if apraxia starts in childhood -it's not a childhood condition either. > > And yes HP Velcro. Don't you worry -I have my eye on that young man for our movie!!!! I just pray he will help us raise awareness- and know that he will be such an incredible inspiration to so many little boys and girls with apraxia/dyspraxia all over the world! He already is to those few that know! > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I have a feeling the reason for all the advocacy in the UK for dyspraxia is due to the Dyspraxia Foundation there http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk a strong advocacy group for those with dyspraxia of all ages. They don't make it out to be a childhood or developmental condition, they look out for the best interest for those with dyspraxia -and they explain dyspraxia as a multi faceted impairment -motor planning just being one part of it -they include sensory and social -so I'm sure many of the kids here diagnosed with autism who are not classic autistic would be diagnosed dyspraxic there. And while I applaud what they do I don't always agree with all they have on their website about dyspraxia. For example I wouldn't say that in general either of the following is accurate from what I've seen- maybe if explained in a different way as sensory integration dysfunction??? And I wouldn't say they have trouble planning thought as much as trouble planning action from thought- so again not all do I agree with. Perception and Thought Perception People who have dyspraxia tend to have poor understanding of the messages that their senses convey and difficulty in relating those messages to actions. Thought There may be difficulty in planning and organising thoughts. http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/services/dys_perception.php And while I agree with some of the following- I wouldn't be bringing up drugs for depression for dealing with dyspraxia!!! Treatment There is no cure for dyspraxia but there are many strategies that can help. Occupational therapists will look at fine motor and perceptual skills, together with activities of daily living such as household tasks and organisational skills, and help develop strategies to improve these. They can suggest suitable equipment to help with these tasks. Speech therapists can help with speech or language problems and also sometimes with communication and social skills. Counselling can help to overcome some of the problems. Drugs such as anti-depressants can be of use where depression and anxiety are a big problem. http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/services/ad_advice.php And...the Dyspraxia Foundation and media there appear to work together to help raise awareness. I'm sure having the world's most famous dyspraxic individual, Radcliffe (Harry Potter) there doesn't hurt in that area either! ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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