Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I loved this program--one of the 2 best interventions we ever did (the other being mood Bell). I paid a provider to simply oversee the program for my son years ago, and then paid the program licensing fee, and did the program with him myself. There used to be a time of year where there was a 'sale' on it--don't know if they still do that. I will tell you that the extremely good results we saw--a huge burst of language--occurred because we went way beyond the protocol of 8-12 weeks. Our gains occurred at about the 27 week mark. We did FF 2 as well, with good results (for about 21 weeks). FF3 was a waste of time and we actually got a refund on that after seeing what that program was about--which was very different from FF1 & 2. In a message dated 3/15/2010 7:51:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vidyawattie@... writes: I used fast forward. There is no cheap way to get fast forward. You have to pay for the right to use the software and then you have to pay the provider. I worked with my child myself (it was too far to commute) and the cost was the same as if he went to the office everyday. It was about 1000.00 for the license and 1000.00 for the provider charge. Great program and extremely expensive. VV. From: hatteralice <_hatteralice@hatterali_ (mailto:hatteralice@...) > Subject: [ ] fast forward _ @Autism-MercuAut_ (mailto: ) Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 12:18 PM Has anyone used fast forward? Also, has anyone bought the program and if so, what is the least costly way ? Thanks, Alice [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I used fast forward. There is no cheap way to get fast forward. You have to pay for the right to use the software and then you have to pay the provider. I worked with my child myself (it was too far to commute) and the cost was the same as if he went to the office everyday. It was about 1000.00 for the license and 1000.00 for the provider charge. Great program and extremely expensive. VV. From: hatteralice <hatteralice@...> Subject: [ ] fast forward Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 12:18 PM Â Has anyone used fast forward? Also, has anyone bought the program and if so, what is the least costly way ? Thanks, Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Have you look at something like: http://www.starfall.com (free) or http://www.timeforlearning.com (sub required) http://www.brainpopjr.com (sub but some free) Just to see if there are some gains until you get a better program? I love Starfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi --yes, 90 minutes daily. We used to break it into 2 chunks of time each day. The games are not the exciting. I didn't see any real gains after 8 weeks, and the test scores showed he needed to improve more with some of the games. So we just kept at it until the scores improved. The intriguing thing about FF--and I don't know that everyone benefits, as in other therapies--was that my son, who prior only spoke in very short phrases, single words, suddenly began talking in paragraphs after about 6 months of doing FF. It really hit me one day when I thought I heard one of my other children talking at length in the basement, and realized it wasn't one of them--it was him. It was very much like FF had triggered something in his brain's language center. Which is what the research shows can occur in the brain, with repeated, intensive remediation. In a message dated 3/16/2010 4:14:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mam78@... writes: We're doing FF as soon as school ends. , did your son have to do 1.5 hrs/day when he did the program? They have apparently changed it since and reduced the daily amount to 30 minutes. The provider that I am working with says that the program lasts 6-8 weeks or 3 months max until the child gets through it at about 30 minutes per day. What made you decide to go beyond the protocol? FF is a great program and I have heard of many benefits from parents. But in order for the kids to get gains from it, they have to be able to attend (focus). Given the cost of doing the program, parents should consider the child's age & ability to focus for the time required to get the benefits. The program is described in the excellent book " The Brain that Changes Itself " by Norman Doidge, which I highly recommend reading. It's amazing & so encouraging to read about the results that certain neurologists & researchers (many considered marginal for ages) are getting from patients with various brain-related impairements. > > I loved this program--one of the 2 best interventions we ever did (the > other being mood Bell). > > I paid a provider to simply oversee the program for my son years ago, and > then paid the program licensing fee, and did the program with him myself. > > There used to be a time of year where there was a 'sale' on it--don't know > if they still do that. > > I will tell you that the extremely good results we saw--a huge burst of > language--occurred because we went way beyond the protocol of 8-12 weeks. > Our gains occurred at about the 27 week mark. > > We did FF 2 as well, with good results (for about 21 weeks). FF3 was a > waste of time and we actually got a refund on that after seeing what that > program was about--which was very different from FF1 & 2. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 We're doing FF as soon as school ends. , did your son have to do 1.5 hrs/day when he did the program? They have apparently changed it since and reduced the daily amount to 30 minutes. The provider that I am working with says that the program lasts 6-8 weeks or 3 months max until the child gets through it at about 30 minutes per day. What made you decide to go beyond the protocol? FF is a great program and I have heard of many benefits from parents. But in order for the kids to get gains from it, they have to be able to attend (focus). Given the cost of doing the program, parents should consider the child's age & ability to focus for the time required to get the benefits. The program is described in the excellent book " The Brain that Changes Itself " by Norman Doidge, which I highly recommend reading. It's amazing & so encouraging to read about the results that certain neurologists & researchers (many considered marginal for ages) are getting from patients with various brain-related impairements. > > I loved this program--one of the 2 best interventions we ever did (the > other being mood Bell). > > I paid a provider to simply oversee the program for my son years ago, and > then paid the program licensing fee, and did the program with him myself. > > There used to be a time of year where there was a 'sale' on it--don't know > if they still do that. > > I will tell you that the extremely good results we saw--a huge burst of > language--occurred because we went way beyond the protocol of 8-12 weeks. > Our gains occurred at about the 27 week mark. > > We did FF 2 as well, with good results (for about 21 weeks). FF3 was a > waste of time and we actually got a refund on that after seeing what that > program was about--which was very different from FF1 & 2. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 We did it with my daughter twice. The first time at the therapist's office and the second through the school district. She had auditory processing disorder in one area, background noise. I like the pre & post tests, they definately showed improvements in all areas and especially her weakest area. My daughter was a late talker vs. my son who has autism and is nonverbal. She did it the summer of 2nd grade going into 3rd and 4th going into 5th. She is now an honor roll student in 10th grade. She still has some APD issues but she has learned to adapt in the classroom. We were huge fans of Fast Forward that we decided to do Tomatis with my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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