client updates

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I am an SLP in private practice, Help Me Speak, LLC, in Marriottsville, MD.

I have several clients with either apraxia & /or autism who have started

using NV. Here are some changes we have noted:

1. Client-M.; 6-6 yrs; male; global apraxia & HI w/fine motor, sensory

challenges too; picky eater (huge gains here prior to NV); he has only been

taking 1 scoop/day in choc pudding BUT as his mom and I discussed today, we

are seeing subtle changes!! Fine motor-he was interested (not before!) in

writing his name by connecting the dots---never done that before per his

mom; more willing to try school work (before did not want to practice much);

multitasking-today during play, he showed a sense of humor while using his

words; many more attempts to imitate words in isolation and in combination

2. Client-M; 9yrs; male; dyspraxia and ASD; speech-language: before he

needed cues and reminders to use full sentences; now, he is putting many

more words together spontaneously!!; many more comments than before too

3. Client-J; ASD; dyspraxia; mostly nonverbal; only on it for 2 wks w/many

more attempts at sentences than previously!!

4. Client-E.; 3yrs; many more attempts at a variety of sounds than he had

previously; at first, had difficulty focusing, but that has resolved after a

few days and now is attending during sessions w/o difficulty; new

sounds--/n, k, g/ which means that his tongue is elevating more at the front

and back of his mouth, also means that he is dissociating (separating) his

tongue from his jaw; WOW!

Even if your child " seems " to make small changes---behavior, a few new

sounds, etc., the underlying skills required to make those changes are many

more than you would think!

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director/ Help Me Speak, LLC

http://www.helpmespeak.com <http://www.helpmespeak.com/>

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

follow us on FaceBook:

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Call me with any questions about NutriiVeda! www.hms.myzrii.com

[Guest guest]

Barbara Thanks for sharing . My son Adam is 5 1/2 yrs ASD i posted earlier in

week we had him on 1 1/2 scoop we upped to 2 scoops over the past few days. We

have sen progress in that prior o this he had approx 10 words (partial words) we

are getting lots of babbling mama dada (not in contex) and he is rolling his

tongue around his mouth and making sounds ih his while doing this.. However he

has gone so hyper and pinching laughing have you seen this reaction ..

tHANKS FOR ANY IMPUT cAROLINE

[Guest guest]

Sorry I didn't post more details about ea client but I don't have the files in

front of me. They're @ my office.

The reason that client #1 is only taking one scoop/day is because he's a picky

eater. He doesn't like milk, so no NV in shake form, nor yogurt. Any other ideas

to put the NV in to increase his amt/day? He doesn't like a lot of pureed foods

so options are decreased.

The other clients are all on full doses for their ages.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara A , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director, Help Me Speak, LLC

410-442-9791

[ ] client updates

Hi all,

I am an SLP in private practice, Help Me Speak, LLC, in Marriottsville, MD.

I have several clients with either apraxia & /or autism who have started

using NV. Here are some changes we have noted:

1. Client-M.; 6-6 yrs; male; global apraxia & HI w/fine motor, sensory

challenges too; picky eater (huge gains here prior to NV); he has only been

taking 1 scoop/day in choc pudding BUT as his mom and I discussed today, we

are seeing subtle changes!! Fine motor-he was interested (not before!) in

writing his name by connecting the dots---never done that before per his

mom; more willing to try school work (before did not want to practice much);

multitasking-today during play, he showed a sense of humor while using his

words; many more attempts to imitate words in isolation and in combination

2. Client-M; 9yrs; male; dyspraxia and ASD; speech-language: before he

needed cues and reminders to use full sentences; now, he is putting many

more words together spontaneously!!; many more comments than before too

3. Client-J; ASD; dyspraxia; mostly nonverbal; only on it for 2 wks w/many

more attempts at sentences than previously!!

4. Client-E.; 3yrs; many more attempts at a variety of sounds than he had

previously; at first, had difficulty focusing, but that has resolved after a

few days and now is attending during sessions w/o difficulty; new

sounds--/n, k, g/ which means that his tongue is elevating more at the front

and back of his mouth, also means that he is dissociating (separating) his

tongue from his jaw; WOW!

Even if your child " seems " to make small changes---behavior, a few new

sounds, etc., the underlying skills required to make those changes are many

more than you would think!

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

Executive Director/ Help Me Speak, LLC

http://www.helpmespeak.com <http://www.helpmespeak.com/>

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

follow us on FaceBook:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Marriottsville-MD/Help-Me-Speak-LLC/1046288520

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Call me with any questions about NutriiVeda! www.hms.myzrii.com

[Guest guest]

You may have missed this but the hyper is one of the side effects of the

nutriiveda -or possible side effects. It's very similar to what we see in fish

oils when they first start to work -it just means that something is starting to

happen so that's a good thing. Typically this hyper behavior will last a few

days to around a week but as you reported it comes with increased babble or

speech. Sowmya was the first to report it and she stopped the nutriiveda and

the hyper stopped -but so did the babble. She put him back on a reduced dosage

and has since raised him up even higher than before. What she can probably

share more about is that upon further reflection it wasn't so much hyper as all

of a sudden aware of surroundings and wanting to see everything -notice of

things that he didn't notice prior.

Your choice is to go back down the 1/2 scoop to where you were before...or to

decrease 1/4 scoop...or just increase the water and wait it out with the quicker

increase in babble and mouth movements.

Also check with the professionals that work with him. While Sowmya initially

saw her son as hyper -the teacher (who didn't know he was on the nutriiveda)

reported that he was focused in class for the days he was on it.

Like with the fish oils -what we consider a " bad " sign could be a good one.

Some of the children in our group never go through the " terrible twos " so days

after starting fish oils or nutriiveda when the kid starts going through this

normal hyper, defiant stage which is a developmental stage that one should go

through -the parent sees it as a bad sign. It's not.

Not only is it most probably a stage your child never went through or went

through fully -at least you know something is happening. The worst sign would

be zero change.

Here is the normal stage most kids go through and as the doctor says " it's not

terrible " Learn why:

http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Deal-with-the-Terrible-Twos-9698

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[Guest guest]

My 24mth boy is an exteremely bad eater - also won't take milk or yoghurt. I

have now tried several things including icing (which is something he normally

eats - but somehow he knew the NV was in it so wouldn't have a part of it).

The only way I can get in into him is in chocolate mousse. He would't take it in

choc icecream or yogo (not sure if you have that in the states, its like a

chocolate custard type stuff).

I've managed to get full dosage into him for the last two days now, and he is

out of control hyper. Prior to NV he was already an extremely active and

inquisitive little boy, who most definitely had a defiant side too. He had a

good sense of humour - this also has become much greater in the past 2 days,

with him spending all day laughing and playing 'tricks' on me.

I've not really noticed any positive change as far as babbling, or attempt at

new sounds - he in fact seems to be going backwards here. He started the fish

oil not long ago which saw improvements in this area, but that appears to be

lost now.

I'll keep with the NV for a few more weeks and see what happens. I was

wondering, if in fact my boy doesn't have dyspraxia (due to non verbal at this

point it is suspected but not officially diagnosed), and he turns out to be just

delayed (which both myself and his 2 sp don't feel to be the case), could the NV

possibly hinder his progress?

[Guest guest]

Yay Ruby!!! I'm so happy you didn't give up after that one 1/2 scoop! No there

is nothing in the nutriiveda that I have read, heard about from any doctor or

nutritional expert that could be anything but healthy -unless one is allergic to

one of the food elements in it. 2 days may be a bit too soon to know yet...but

-look at it this way. The fact that you are seeing a sign that is reported as a

negative early sign of nutriiveda is a good thing. If it wasn't doing anything

you wouldn't see anything!

What you can do is cut back a teeny bit to control the hyper- others who have

children that went through this stage can comment more on this. I'd say if you

can get him to eat it in the mousse -then stick with that for now. Let him get

a bit back on a schedule again because it's clear he's not liking that you are

trying to get him to eat something he doesn't want to -so that creates stress.

With apraxia/dyspraxia speech regresses when they are sick, tired or stressed.

Try to keep it fun -and what's not fun about chocolate mousse???

Hey even try reverse psychology " if you aren't good you won't get any chocolate

mousse for dessert tonight "

I just answered your other message about looking for info for the doctors- I did

put a bunch of links here that I put up about a month ago

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13047 as I just posted

however yes we'll put something together that is a bit more formal -and get that

survey up (???)

I'm happy that you are sticking it out and giving it a chance to work. We've

pretty much across the board have seen surges. If nothing else -you know you

got your fish oils...I don't know -to me the fact that they " worked " makes it

seem like there was more going on than a simple delay in speech -but it's

possible of course.

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