Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Since some of you are questioning about whey thought I'd just share that not all whey protein is the same. For this group you do not want a concentrate and if your protein powder will be cheap -but it will be a concentrate. With the concentrate you get less protein -and it will not be casein free and is not as easily digestible by the body. Isolate protein is more expensive -probably 2 to 3 times more expensive but in my opinion as someone who has drank protein shakes for years -worth it. I can share that while my friends and I who are health and fitness conscious for years have had the best of the best protein powders -in our opinion nothing compares for some reason to the nutriiveda. Nutriiveda is not just a pharmaceutical grade of whey isolate protein -it also contains a synergistic blend of botanicals and nutrients formulated and endorsed by some of the top medical doctors in the world. Just like fish oils you can find other brands than the brands we know that work- but as you learn more you learn that not all is the same as it appears. Below is an article about whey protein from a body builder's standpoint. I know I had found one once before that was more scientific to compare different whey proteins -but for now this will do. It is clear to me that the whey protein powder talked about here is a concentrate not an isolate. Concentrate is not casein free amongst other things -and it will be the easiest and cheapest form to find. As this body building expert advices -search for the highest quality whey isolate protein -you'll pay much more but -it's worth it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The scoop on whey protein What is available and what is right for you Protein, protein everywhere, but how do you know if you are getting high quality protein? There are so many companies selling protein it is confusing to know what's good and what's not. Let's put it into simple terms and make it understandable so you can buy with confidence. The type of protein in a product definitely determines the price. When it comes to proteins whey is king, and there are several different types. Let's look at the three types of whey available and understand what makes each type unique. Whey protein can be broken into three classes: hydrolysates, isolates and concentrates. Hydrolysates are the most expensive form of whey, followed by isolates and lastly concentrates. Concentrates are the least refined while hydrolysates are the most refined. Whey it comes from the milk of cows. The whey protein in your favorite protein powder can come from various types of manufacturing processes. Often whey is created during the cheese making process, which means it has been treated with harsh acids to separate the whey from the casein used for making cheese. Whey can also come from whole milk being separated specifically for the purpose of producing high quality whey and high quality casein. Buyers beware, not all whey is created equal! The difference between the three types of whey proteins involves protein, fat and carbohydrate content and degree of hydrolysis. Whey concentrate generally has a protein content of 30 to 80 percent with the rest being lactose, fat and minerals. A whey isolate generally as a protein content between 90 and 96 percent with less lactose, fat and minerals than a concentrate. Whey hydrolysate is a further processing of whey isolate by chemically or enzymatically breaking down the long protein chains to various degrees. The higher the degree or percentage of hydrolysis, the more broken down the whey protein isolate. The reason for hydrolysates is to make it easier and more rapidly absorbing than whey concentrate or isolate. With hydrolysis comes bad taste. The more hydrolysed a protein, the worse it is going to taste and the more expensive it will be. Whey isolate is the second most expensive and the least expensive is whey protein concentrate. Where your whey comes from is very important in relation to the quality of the whey protein powder in your packet or jug. The best source of whey comes from whole milk, not an offshoot of cheese production. If whey is extracted from whole milk through a filtration process it will generally be higher quality. The filtration process also matters, and so do the temperature and other chemicals used during the processing. The processing techniques are important to understand because this affects something called biologically active whey protein fractions. You want to protect these valuable whey fractions so you can get maximum benefit from them in your supplements. These health promoting whey fractions include alpha-lactalbumin, beta-lactoglobulin, glycomacropeptides, lactoferrin, lactoperoxidase, immunoglobulins, lysozymes, bovine serum albumin, etc. Whey fractions can improve immune function, enhance recovery, improve mineral absorption and play a major role in improving your physical health and performance. There are many different filtration processes designed to preserve the valuable fractions found in whey. These processes go by names like, microfiltration, ultrafiltration, nanofiltration, reverse osmosis filtration and dynamic membrane filtration, to name a few. The objective here is to preserve as many of the native protein fractions as possible so that when you mix up your protein shake you get all the benefits of the whey fractions. If the processing damages or destroys any of these valuable protein fractions you aren't getting maximum the benefit from your whey. Most protein powders today are made from blends of whey protein concentrate, isolate and hydrolysate combined with soy and egg proteins. Keep in mind that an excellent quality whey protein is VERY expensive. With all of the trash protein out there at low, low prices the consumer just doesn't understand the benefit of expensive high quality whey protein nor why they should pay more for it. Most of the proteins out on the market are not produced from the highest quality whey protein isolate available due to the cost. Generally you will find a blend of whey types with casein, egg and even soy. While casein, egg and soy are great proteins in their own right, they do not contain the bioactive fractions found in high quality whey. Soy provides high quality protein, and can even deliver valuable isoflavones, but soy does not contain the whey fractions. Casein is often combined with whey to slow down the whey and " time release " the protein. This " time released " protein has its benefits for meal replacement products and night time products. However, for post workout delivery, go for a high quality bioactive whey protein isolate. If you want the most versatile, highest quality, health-promoting protein available then you should look no further than a delicately filtered, gently processed, whole milk sourced, high- quality whey protein isolate. This product will be low in fat and lactose and deliver at least 90 to 96 percent protein per scoop. Make no mistake, this type of high-quality protein will cost you, but a high-quality whey will allow you to train harder and maximize your gains. High-quality concentrate can also be valuable if you don't mind a little more carbohydrate and fat content. The high quality whey concentrates are often a better buy due to their lower price, and if processed correctly can have a very high percentage of the valuable bioactive whey fractions. If you can't determine the type or quality of whey used in your favorite protein, contact the company who makes it. The company should be able to tell you where they source their whey and how it is processed. If they can't then you need to find another company for your whey protein! As always, if you have questions e-mail me at editor@.... Until next month; train smart, eat healthy, supplement wisely, rest well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I completely agree. We selected ours after consulting with his pediatrician and nutrishionist. He doesn't have any food allergies, so it made it a little easier. Also, the can we bought is only 15 full scoops, so only 1/2 month or less supply for those on mutiple scoops. He has his annual IEP in the coming weeks, and then tracks out, so we thought it best to wait to start the NV, and since we had a little time between, and it wouldn't cause any ill effects, to try just the whey to see what the differences were we we did the NV. Not trying to stir up controversy....just thought we would post for the purposes of research. From: kiddietalk@... Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:21:54 +0000 Subject: [ ] Whey proteins Since some of you are questioning about whey thought I'd just share that not all whey protein is the same. For this group you do not want a concentrate and if your protein powder will be cheap -but it will be a concentrate. With the concentrate you get less protein -and it will not be casein free and is not as easily digestible by the body. Isolate protein is more expensive -probably 2 to 3 times more expensive but in my opinion as someone who has drank protein shakes for years -worth it. I can share that while my friends and I who are health and fitness conscious for years have had the best of the best protein powders -in our opinion nothing compares for some reason to the nutriiveda. Nutriiveda is not just a pharmaceutical grade of whey isolate protein -it also contains a synergistic blend of botanicals and nutrients formulated and endorsed by some of the top medical doctors in the world. Just like fish oils you can find other brands than the brands we know that work- but as you learn more you learn that not all is the same as it appears. Below is an article about whey protein from a body builder's standpoint. I know I had found one once before that was more scientific to compare different whey proteins -but for now this will do. It is clear to me that the whey protein powder talked about here is a concentrate not an isolate. Concentrate is not casein free amongst other things -and it will be the easiest and cheapest form to find. As this body building expert advices -search for the highest quality whey isolate protein -you'll pay much more but -it's worth it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The scoop on whey protein What is available and what is right for you Protein, protein everywhere, but how do you know if you are getting high quality protein? There are so many companies selling protein it is confusing to know what's good and what's not. Let's put it into simple terms and make it understandable so you can buy with confidence. The type of protein in a product definitely determines the price. When it comes to proteins whey is king, and there are several different types. Let's look at the three types of whey available and understand what makes each type unique. Whey protein can be broken into three classes: hydrolysates, isolates and concentrates. Hydrolysates are the most expensive form of whey, followed by isolates and lastly concentrates. Concentrates are the least refined while hydrolysates are the most refined. Whey it comes from the milk of cows. The whey protein in your favorite protein powder can come from various types of manufacturing processes. Often whey is created during the cheese making process, which means it has been treated with harsh acids to separate the whey from the casein used for making cheese. Whey can also come from whole milk being separated specifically for the purpose of producing high quality whey and high quality casein. Buyers beware, not all whey is created equal! The difference between the three types of whey proteins involves protein, fat and carbohydrate content and degree of hydrolysis. Whey concentrate generally has a protein content of 30 to 80 percent with the rest being lactose, fat and minerals. A whey isolate generally as a protein content between 90 and 96 percent with less lactose, fat and minerals than a concentrate. Whey hydrolysate is a further processing of whey isolate by chemically or enzymatically breaking down the long protein chains to various degrees. The higher the degree or percentage of hydrolysis, the more broken down the whey protein isolate. The reason for hydrolysates is to make it easier and more rapidly absorbing than whey concentrate or isolate. With hydrolysis comes bad taste. The more hydrolysed a protein, the worse it is going to taste and the more expensive it will be. Whey isolate is the second most expensive and the least expensive is whey protein concentrate. Where your whey comes from is very important in relation to the quality of the whey protein powder in your packet or jug. The best source of whey comes from whole milk, not an offshoot of cheese production. If whey is extracted from whole milk through a filtration process it will generally be higher quality. The filtration process also matters, and so do the temperature and other chemicals used during the processing. The processing techniques are important to understand because this affects something called biologically active whey protein fractions. You want to protect these valuable whey fractions so you can get maximum benefit from them in your supplements. These health promoting whey fractions include alpha-lactalbumin, beta-lactoglobulin, glycomacropeptides, lactoferrin, lactoperoxidase, immunoglobulins, lysozymes, bovine serum albumin, etc. Whey fractions can improve immune function, enhance recovery, improve mineral absorption and play a major role in improving your physical health and performance. There are many different filtration processes designed to preserve the valuable fractions found in whey. These processes go by names like, microfiltration, ultrafiltration, nanofiltration, reverse osmosis filtration and dynamic membrane filtration, to name a few. The objective here is to preserve as many of the native protein fractions as possible so that when you mix up your protein shake you get all the benefits of the whey fractions. If the processing damages or destroys any of these valuable protein fractions you aren't getting maximum the benefit from your whey. Most protein powders today are made from blends of whey protein concentrate, isolate and hydrolysate combined with soy and egg proteins. Keep in mind that an excellent quality whey protein is VERY expensive. With all of the trash protein out there at low, low prices the consumer just doesn't understand the benefit of expensive high quality whey protein nor why they should pay more for it. Most of the proteins out on the market are not produced from the highest quality whey protein isolate available due to the cost. Generally you will find a blend of whey types with casein, egg and even soy. While casein, egg and soy are great proteins in their own right, they do not contain the bioactive fractions found in high quality whey. Soy provides high quality protein, and can even deliver valuable isoflavones, but soy does not contain the whey fractions. Casein is often combined with whey to slow down the whey and " time release " the protein. This " time released " protein has its benefits for meal replacement products and night time products. However, for post workout delivery, go for a high quality bioactive whey protein isolate. If you want the most versatile, highest quality, health-promoting protein available then you should look no further than a delicately filtered, gently processed, whole milk sourced, high- quality whey protein isolate. This product will be low in fat and lactose and deliver at least 90 to 96 percent protein per scoop. Make no mistake, this type of high-quality protein will cost you, but a high-quality whey will allow you to train harder and maximize your gains. High-quality concentrate can also be valuable if you don't mind a little more carbohydrate and fat content. The high quality whey concentrates are often a better buy due to their lower price, and if processed correctly can have a very high percentage of the valuable bioactive whey fractions. If you can't determine the type or quality of whey used in your favorite protein, contact the company who makes it. The company should be able to tell you where they source their whey and how it is processed. If they can't then you need to find another company for your whey protein! As always, if you have questions e-mail me at editor@.... Until next month; train smart, eat healthy, supplement wisely, rest well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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