Right time to start nutiiveda?

[Guest guest]

We received our order of NV, I anxiously waited,but now I think I should wait to

start it for 2 reasons. 1) Just 1 week ago tomorrow-

(thursday) we changed Shea's nn fish oils from ultimate omega to the 3-6-9(pro

efa).I went right to 2 a day after the first day because the ultimate omega has

a little more than double of the EPA and DHA, but 1/2 of the omega9(and no omega

6) AND reason 2) Shea just started biofeedback called ONDAMED .The current

programs are focusing on calming,mood,behavior creativity,attention among a few

others. So to confuse matters she had a treatment 3 weeks ago, and then one last

wednesday. On thursday night I changed her fish oil regiment the day after a

biofeedback... AND WOW wEE!!!!--SHE had a phenominal weekend. She was so

happy(usually on weekends she is miserable the whole weekend or her mood

fluctuates and she is miserable off and on. She exhibits oppostional behavior

making us miserable. She seems like she can't organize herself to figure out

what to play...and bunches of other stuff. What we saw and are seeing:

1)Improved gross motor-jumped off our mini exercise trampoline and challenged

herself how far out she could jump(she is 6 but very posturally insecure,and has

gross and fine motor delays)She even asked our other kids to lay down to jump

over them-they said NO WAY ,so Dad layed down and she landed right on him(ok,so

she can't jump out that great)!

2)She was so happy,laughing singing,cooperative,sharing, not bossy to her

siblings like she usually is.Listened to us,wasn't whiney.

3)She played and got toys out herself without having to be directed

4)She was creative-Pretended she was an Olympic ice skater all around the

kitchen moving her body with twists and little jumps,played teacher,wanted

finger paints out,colored,played candyland..etc.

5)She does orton gillingham for reading and writing but we don't do it on

weekends and she kept begging to read and do her writing

6)We didn't see a surge in speech yet on the change in fish oils( we did 4

years ago when she was 2 and started them--surges within 2 days!!),but her

speech path at school said she was demonstrating better jaw stability.

7)She minimized or even stopped much of her nervous like,self stim

behaviors--like twirling the end of her hair and then rubbing her lips with the

ends

SO, the million dollar question is, do I give the fish oil change another week

or two, and the biofeedback another week or two to really know what true impact

they are having without the nutriiveda? She just had another biofeedback

today.(we have to drive an hour and a half each way to get this type of specific

treatment)

I really didn't expect such a great change with those 2. She usually is

cooperative,and happy all week(she loves school and likes doing her work at

home)so weekends are the true barometer for behavior.

I want to start the nutiiveda so bad but we only had one weekend with the fish

oil change/biofeedback combination--and always wisely warns not to add too

many things to the equation at once.

And since she can be ornery, miserable and uncooperative on weekends I'm afraid

to start the NV right before the weekend because if she only had a good weekend

last week by coincidence and is going to be miserable this weekend I will be

wondering if the nutriiveda is causing the irritabilty and defiant behavior.

So, I'd really like input on my dilemma. Thanks so much, Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cheryl no matter what you just posted a gold medal update (can you tell

someone's been watching the Olympics???) But I just want to make sure that you

don't fall into the old trap so many in this group do when they start fish oils

and _____ (fill in the blank) that the fish oils don't get the full credit they

deserve. It's like I said to you on the phone...the formula you were using

which was pure Omega 3 and not high enough in the EPA was all wrong. I wish you

and I had spoken SO much earlier and THRILLED to hear you are on the right track

again with the right formula of O3 and O6....(sigh because I know the story

behind it -how frustrating!)

About when to start the nutriiveda...well I want to suggest you take the one

step at a time one step further.

Can you stop the new fish oils and go back to the others and just do the

biofeedback for a week...and then switch - add the new -right fish oil formula

ProEFA and stop the bio feedback for a week. Report back what you see with

each. Fortunately with the fish oils we know that the changes are very quick

and just want to make sure you don't credit something that may not even be

needed which is understandable as we tend to credit the more complex and/or

expensive

All you reported is typical of the oils (or now nutriiveda too) The search just

stopped working again or I was going to search for your original messages about

surges back then when you started the fish oils to see if they are " ditto " .

....biofeedback??? not much in the archives -but when it's came up here it's in

a huge mash up of other things as in this quote from a parent: " occupational

therapy (including Balametrics, Bal-A-Vis-X, NeuroNet, Interactive Metronome,

biofeedback, etc.).

I'm sure you'll find out soon enough- and at least we know the fish oils -the

right formula- still works for your child...after what happened the last time

-please keep it simple this time!! After what -2 weeks -start the nutriiveda.

We know from now our feedback and reports from nutritional as well as medical

experts that fish oils and nutriiveda are benign and both work beautifully

together -but again -you want to know for sure if the biofeedback is worth the

time and money to continue. Because you can always save up that money for some

good ride therapy instead!!!

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[Guest guest]

HEY, ...I'll try stopping the pro Efa today as you suggested.Since weekends

are so bad I pretended(self preservation) all weekend I didn't get the

suggestion. Stopping the pro efa fish oils and just try the biofeedback then do

it the other way-tooo scary to see regression.!! Also, since she only had one

good weekend I did want to see if she would have another with the new fish

oil/biofeedback combo.This weekend wasn't fantastic like the one before, but not

bad.

She has another biofeedback this wednesday so I'll switch back to the ultimate

omega, then next week(Sunday) put her back on the ProEFA and skip the

biofeedback. The only thing is ,is that this biofeedback is supposed to be

" repairative " . IT's called ONDAMED and has programs to address so many problems.

The program they ran the last 2 weeks was for calming, creativity,and mood,so I

think the PRO EFA fish oils were really more responsible for the better motor

planning. So even if I do find out what is doing what, I will still continue the

biofeedback for awhile on the premise it stimulates cellular

rejuvination-consequently repair.I want to do it at least for a little while

longer regardless.

As for the nutiiveda,I'll start Shea on it after this 2 week change up and

report back.

I started the nutriiveda myself last thursday(Middle age has slowed my

metabolism and to my dismay I'm slowly gaining(one day I'll look like a manitee

if I don't stop)--I hear some talking about detox? Are the adults here feeling

It?did you?--I feel this way off and on alot, but all weekend I " Ve felt

headachey,sore and tired. I'm drinking alot(and not wine coolers!)and the

nutriiveda seems to really have things " moving " . I'm only taking 2 scoops in

place of lunch right now.I know you said you and a few others felt fantastic on

nutriiveda-did you start with this crappy feeling or is it probably my usaual

flare up of feeling junky? Maybe it's the adult version of what some of the

children are going through when they are wired or cranky for the first few days.

Take Care. Cheryl

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> Cheryl no matter what you just posted a gold medal update (can you tell

someone's been watching the Olympics???) But I just want to make sure that you

don't fall into the old trap so many in this group do when they start fish oils

and _____ (fill in the blank) that the fish oils don't get the full credit they

deserve. It's like I said to you on the phone...the formula you were using

which was pure Omega 3 and not high enough in the EPA was all wrong. I wish you

and I had spoken SO much earlier and THRILLED to hear you are on the right track

again with the right formula of O3 and O6....(sigh because I know the story

behind it -how frustrating!)

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> About when to start the nutriiveda...well I want to suggest you take the one

step at a time one step further.

>

> Can you stop the new fish oils and go back to the others and just do the

biofeedback for a week...and then switch - add the new -right fish oil formula

ProEFA and stop the bio feedback for a week. Report back what you see with

each. Fortunately with the fish oils we know that the changes are very quick

and just want to make sure you don't credit something that may not even be

needed which is understandable as we tend to credit the more complex and/or

expensive

>

> All you reported is typical of the oils (or now nutriiveda too) The search

just stopped working again or I was going to search for your original messages

about surges back then when you started the fish oils to see if they are

" ditto " .

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> ...biofeedback??? not much in the archives -but when it's came up here it's

in a huge mash up of other things as in this quote from a parent: " occupational

therapy (including Balametrics, Bal-A-Vis-X, NeuroNet, Interactive Metronome,

biofeedback, etc.).

>

> I'm sure you'll find out soon enough- and at least we know the fish oils -the

right formula- still works for your child...after what happened the last time

-please keep it simple this time!! After what -2 weeks -start the nutriiveda.

We know from now our feedback and reports from nutritional as well as medical

experts that fish oils and nutriiveda are benign and both work beautifully

together -but again -you want to know for sure if the biofeedback is worth the

time and money to continue. Because you can always save up that money for some

good ride therapy instead!!!

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