Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's doing new things. > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is just detox or something and will pass! > > Dianne ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Dianne I love your story about how Liam carries his stuffed animal everywhere and never did before. When you say he never played with stuffed animals before was this stuffed animal new? What did he name it? Kate > > Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha > > What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. > > Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html > > While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. > > Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? > > Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message > > One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, > more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to > share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to > sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he > seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's > doing new things. > > > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or > frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at > preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's > been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day > long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on > someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days > after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is > just detox or something and will pass! > > > > Dianne > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 It's really just amazing, isn't it, ?! Yes, I'll make sure I take the survey this weekend, while hubbie's around to put out fires. Dianne > > Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha > > What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. > > Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html > > While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. > > Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? > > Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message > > One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, > more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to > share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to > sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he > seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's > doing new things. > > > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or > frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at > preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's > been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day > long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on > someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days > after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is > just detox or something and will pass! > > > > Dianne > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Hi Kate! No, it's not a new stuffed animal. He's had it for more than a year. He actually has dozens, but has never shown a single bit of interest in any of them. As for the naming . . . he first brought it to me and asked, " What's his name? " (the question thing is also new!). I told him he needed to give it a name and gave him a few suggestions. We didn't get anywhere with it until his father came home, at which time he suggested the generic dog name " Spot, " which is what Liam chose. Spot is still his constant companion. Dianne > > > > Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha > > > > What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. > > > > Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html > > > > While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. > > > > Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? > > > > Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message > > > > One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > > > > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, > > more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to > > share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to > > sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he > > seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's > > doing new things. > > > > > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or > > frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at > > preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's > > been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day > > long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on > > someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days > > after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is > > just detox or something and will pass! > > > > > > Dianne > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 This is amazing. Diane how old is your son and what is his diagnosis? > > > > Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha > > > > What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. > > > > Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html > > > > While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. > > > > Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? > > > > Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message > > > > One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > > > > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, > > more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to > > share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to > > sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he > > seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's > > doing new things. > > > > > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or > > frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at > > preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's > > been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day > > long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on > > someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days > > after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is > > just detox or something and will pass! > > > > > > Dianne > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Liam is 5 1/2 and has a variety of challenges - collectively, his diagnosis is PDD-NOS, but his individual challenges are apraxia, SPD, and probably CAPD. Dianne > > > > > > Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha > > > > > > What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. > > > > > > Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html > > > > > > While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. > > > > > > Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? > > > > > > Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message > > > > > > One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > > > > > > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, > > > more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to > > > share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to > > > sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he > > > seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's > > > doing new things. > > > > > > > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or > > > frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at > > > preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's > > > been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day > > > long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on > > > someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days > > > after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is > > > just detox or something and will pass! > > > > > > > > Dianne > > > > > > ===== > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'm Nervous to try this but anxious to get on board with it too, I wonder if our DAN will approve of this NV. I see her in May. We are giving Multi from Lee Silby ASD . Its great seeing everyone's progress. KAthy > > > > > > > > Oh this so reminds me of the early days of fish oils!!!! Except fish oils didn't turn us (the moms) into super models haha > > > > > > > > What I love about your update is that it clearly shows that nutriiveda works with the body's needs. If you need to gain or lose weight it will work with that. Also I have an email below from the first of this month which is about a week after you started it and you are reporting the bad behavior stage Liam went through. On another email you reported he had lose stools for about a week or so too. It would be great if you could let us know how long these stages lasted (or still going on???) because again they both sound like fish oil reports from first use. > > > > > > > > Please also take the survey http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html > > > > > > > > While there are a few of us in this group that are learning how this is helping I'm getting calls from autism groups all over the place that have bits of info but want to learn more. It will be great to have the survey results to share - there are still many that post updates here who have not taken it yet. Would so appreciate it if everyone could. > > > > > > > > Also does anyone want to help me in putting together a " what to bring to your doctor " about nutriiveda page? Is it better to explain what we are seeing or just ask " Can I use this instead of Carnation Instant Breakfast? " for them to look at just from a nutritional standpoint? I mean who cares if professionals or even the parents purchasing it don't believe it's going to make any difference in speech, motor planning, sense of humor, focus, multi tasking, academics, imaginative play, maturity etc. Just about 100 percent it appears so far finds out soon enough! Or should we just add more to the FAQ page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html Opinions? > > > > > > > > Dianne here's your memory lane few weeks ago message > > > > > > > > One week on NV - great progress but we are now in Meltdown City! (from March 1st) > > > > > > > > > > Liam continues to amaze us with new words, longer sentences, more attention, > > > > more interest in what's going on around him, and best of all, a big desire to > > > > share his world with us! He's generally happy, singing a lot and wanting us to > > > > sing with him - this really does seem to have flipped a switch for him. And he > > > > seems aware of the changes, too. It seems that he's aware and proud that he's > > > > doing new things. > > > > > > > > > > BUT . . . his anger and frustration levels - when he does get angry or > > > > frustrated - are all of the sudden really intense! He threw a tantrum at > > > > preschool today that was unlike anything he's ever done in the 2 1/2 yrs he's > > > > been there. And yesterday was tantrum after tantrum after tantrum, all day > > > > long. I believe that I read somewhere - can't find it here, so maybe on > > > > someone's blog? - that someone else's kid went through a rough patch a few days > > > > after starting NV? Or am I imagining that? Please give me hope that this is > > > > just detox or something and will pass! > > > > > > > > > > Dianne > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I read once that another parent (can't remember who -sorry) said she was nervous to try nutriiveda because so many people are seeing results and she's afraid her child won't. I guess didn't want to get her hopes up to possibly be let down. I suggest that you don't even look at it as therapeutic -and perhaps one step further is share it with your child's doctor just on the basis of nutrition. I'm sure if your child is somewhat normal for this group you try to feed him healthy but he doesn't have a perfect diet. I see you are using a multi. Keep in mind that the best way to get the nutrients you are giving in a multi vitamin is through the food he consumes which typically is impossible which is why we supplement. But once on nutriiveda you can give up the extra supplementation of the multi (and if the multi you are using is the powder I found for 80 dollars for only 30 scoops???!! Imagine getting nutrients in AND surges across the board! Who would have thought right? I know some do continue with other nutrients pulled out but many of us are just using nutriiveda with some fish oils for essential amino acids and essential fatty acids because nutriiveda is designed by leading medical doctors to work together in a synergistic way -and why fix it if it isn't broken. Again essential means that the body can't assimilate it so needs to consume it but in both cases they are virtually lacking in our diets today. And since we keep looking at the gluten casein fat sodium caffeine free 100 percent natural 100 percent food certified by the FDA nutrient dense Nutriiveda -has anyone here wondered what is in the new Burger King Funnel Cake Sticks? calories 300 sat. fat 3g cholesterol 10mg sugar 30g protein 2g fat 11g trans fat 0g sodium 210mg carbs 49g Allergens:* Wheat * , Soy * , Milk * , Egg http://www.bk.com/en/us/menu-nutrition/category5/menu-item2010/index.html I'm nervous to try THIS! (above) I do see a trend that we as parents need to learn more about nutrition in everything we put in our bodies and our children's bodies -and not 'just' the healthy stuff!!!! And that should ease your fear of it possibly not working Kathy because regardless you're giving your child a food that is super healthy. But can tell you the odds are- it's not only going to work in a therapeutic way -but you'll be sending an OMG!!!!! update in a few days. Can't guarantee it but based on the survey reports so far seems like when it's not working for the handful that reported it- you can even read it here but aren't following the right dosage etc. Just follow the Q and A here for dosage etc. http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I think I was the other parent you meant. You really put things in perspective with this message and make a very good point, as usual LOL Thank you for understanding and explaining! Kate > > I read once that another parent (can't remember who -sorry) said she was nervous to try nutriiveda because so many people are seeing results and she's afraid her child won't. I guess didn't want to get her hopes up to possibly be let down. I suggest that you don't even look at it as therapeutic -and perhaps one step further is share it with your child's doctor just on the basis of nutrition. I'm sure if your child is somewhat normal for this group you try to feed him healthy but he doesn't have a perfect diet. > > I see you are using a multi. Keep in mind that the best way to get the nutrients you are giving in a multi vitamin is through the food he consumes which typically is impossible which is why we supplement. But once on nutriiveda you can give up the extra supplementation of the multi (and if the multi you are using is the powder I found for 80 dollars for only 30 scoops???!! Imagine getting nutrients in AND surges across the board! Who would have thought right? > > I know some do continue with other nutrients pulled out but many of us are just using nutriiveda with some fish oils for essential amino acids and essential fatty acids because nutriiveda is designed by leading medical doctors to work together in a synergistic way -and why fix it if it isn't broken. Again essential means that the body can't assimilate it so needs to consume it but in both cases they are virtually lacking in our diets today. > > And since we keep looking at the gluten casein fat sodium caffeine free 100 percent natural 100 percent food certified by the FDA nutrient dense Nutriiveda -has anyone here wondered what is in the new Burger King Funnel Cake Sticks? > > calories 300 > sat. fat 3g > cholesterol 10mg > sugar 30g > protein 2g > fat 11g > trans fat 0g > sodium 210mg > carbs 49g > Allergens:* Wheat * , Soy * , Milk * , Egg > http://www.bk.com/en/us/menu-nutrition/category5/menu-item2010/index.html > > I'm nervous to try THIS! (above) > > I do see a trend that we as parents need to learn more about nutrition in everything we put in our bodies and our children's bodies -and not 'just' the healthy stuff!!!! > > And that should ease your fear of it possibly not working Kathy because regardless you're giving your child a food that is super healthy. But can tell you the odds are- it's not only going to work in a therapeutic way -but you'll be sending an OMG!!!!! update in a few days. Can't guarantee it but based on the survey reports so far seems like when it's not working for the handful that reported it- you can even read it here but aren't following the right dosage etc. Just follow the Q and A here for dosage etc. http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Well this all makes sense. I have given him Multi Vit for several yrs. I also have chelated and I'm not sure if that is a No No here on this board. He is on Depakote for silent seizures . My husband and I are not thrilled about this and wish there was a way to get him off of this. He has gain so much weight and I don't see any positives from it. I did see one time where he said " why " early on with Depakote but then it went away. I see him jerk some at night. I really hate to mention this to the neuro because he will increase the dose and I really don't like this side effects of gaining weight. He is 9 yrs old wearing 14size he gain over 30 lbs in 6 months. One thing I did notice helping with his speech was PC in his IV's that we do. I brought this NV up to my mother and she was excited and wants to order it for my son. The only think I can think of that our DAN might have a problem with is the copper in it. Yes my son doesn't eat well. He has oral sensitivity . He swallows whole his small bites of fruits and veggies. We are working on him to learn to chew. I know he can chew some foods but I have no idea why he has to swallow the fruit and vegs whole. I guess outof sight out of mind for him. I've been looking into a protocol called and they are more for nutrition than supplementing vits and minerals. They believe it does more harm to the child. I really dont know if my son is absorbing the vits and minerals. Also I so wants this to help my son . I rather not do chelation. Right now my son is talking some but mostly he is echolalia. He is repeating long phrases now. His speech is not that bad if he doesn't talk so fast and blending his words together. He really needs help with spontaneous language. Thanks Kathy > > I read once that another parent (can't remember who -sorry) said she was nervous to try nutriiveda because so many people are seeing results and she's afraid her child won't. I guess didn't want to get her hopes up to possibly be let down. I suggest that you don't even look at it as therapeutic -and perhaps one step further is share it with your child's doctor just on the basis of nutrition. I'm sure if your child is somewhat normal for this group you try to feed him healthy but he doesn't have a perfect diet. > > I see you are using a multi. Keep in mind that the best way to get the nutrients you are giving in a multi vitamin is through the food he consumes which typically is impossible which is why we supplement. But once on nutriiveda you can give up the extra supplementation of the multi (and if the multi you are using is the powder I found for 80 dollars for only 30 scoops???!! Imagine getting nutrients in AND surges across the board! Who would have thought right? > > I know some do continue with other nutrients pulled out but many of us are just using nutriiveda with some fish oils for essential amino acids and essential fatty acids because nutriiveda is designed by leading medical doctors to work together in a synergistic way -and why fix it if it isn't broken. Again essential means that the body can't assimilate it so needs to consume it but in both cases they are virtually lacking in our diets today. > > And since we keep looking at the gluten casein fat sodium caffeine free 100 percent natural 100 percent food certified by the FDA nutrient dense Nutriiveda -has anyone here wondered what is in the new Burger King Funnel Cake Sticks? > > calories 300 > sat. fat 3g > cholesterol 10mg > sugar 30g > protein 2g > fat 11g > trans fat 0g > sodium 210mg > carbs 49g > Allergens:* Wheat * , Soy * , Milk * , Egg > http://www.bk.com/en/us/menu-nutrition/category5/menu-item2010/index.html > > I'm nervous to try THIS! (above) > > I do see a trend that we as parents need to learn more about nutrition in everything we put in our bodies and our children's bodies -and not 'just' the healthy stuff!!!! > > And that should ease your fear of it possibly not working Kathy because regardless you're giving your child a food that is super healthy. But can tell you the odds are- it's not only going to work in a therapeutic way -but you'll be sending an OMG!!!!! update in a few days. Can't guarantee it but based on the survey reports so far seems like when it's not working for the handful that reported it- you can even read it here but aren't following the right dosage etc. Just follow the Q and A here for dosage etc. http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Kathy I'd for sure show this to your Dan -your pediatrician -your neuro -if you have a nutritionist you work with -the person that runs the local health food store- anyone who you trust that also is knowledgeable about nutrition. It's normal to look at an ingredient and think... " oooh I don't know if I want that " but what has to be considered are the nutrients are from food. Yes there are many who stop and analyze every food and nutrient but copper is part of us -planet Earth.... food. If your Dan doesn't approve it he may want you to move to another planet Below is some info from the NIH on this but first a quick news flash special announcement!!! MEL IS HOME!!!! Just wait till all hear the update from Robin which she promised to post later today -just when you think her story can't get more incredible...OMG!!! Back to our regularly scheduled program. Nutriiveda in regards to the natural food based form meaning not added by man but nature - copper gluconate = 335 mcg per scoop... and according to the NIH " Up to 3,000-5,000 micrograms daily appears to be safe for consumption in children " - and here's the whole scoop on that from the NIH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Copper is a mineral that occurs naturally in many foods, including vegetables, legumes, nuts, grains, and fruits, as well as shellfish, avocado, and beef (organs such as liver). Because copper is found in the earth's crust, most of the world's surface water and ground water used for drinking purposes contains small amounts of copper. Copper is involved in numerous biochemical reactions in human cells. Copper is a component of multiple enzymes, is involved with the regulation of gene expression, mitochondrial function/cellular metabolism, connective tissue formation, as well as the absorption, storage, and metabolism of iron. Copper levels are tightly regulated in the body. Copper toxicity is rare in the general population. 's disease is a genetic disorder in which the body cannot rid itself of copper, resulting in deposition in organs and serious consequences such as liver failure and neurologic damage. Obstruction of bile flow, contamination of dialysis solution (in patients receiving hemodialysis for kidney failure), Indian childhood cirrhosis, and idiopathic copper toxicosis are other rare causes of potentially dangerous excess copper levels. Such individuals should be followed closely by a physician and nutritionist. Copper deficiency can occur in infants fed only cow-milk formulas (which are relatively low in copper content), premature/low-birth weight infants, infants with prolonged diarrhea or malnutrition, individuals with malabsorption syndromes (including celiac disease, sprue, or short bowel syndrome), cystic fibrosis, in the elderly, or those receiving intravenous total parenteral nutrition (TPN) or other restrictive diets. Medicinal use of copper compounds dates to Hippocrates in 400 B.C. Bacterial growth is inhibited on copper's surface, and hospitals historically installed copper-alloy doorknobs and push-panels as a measure to prevent transmission of infectious disease. SynonymsReturn to top Copper 7, copper acetate, copper amino acid chelates, copper citrate, copper gluconate, copper glycinate, copper intrauterine device, copper sebecate, copper sulfate, copper T, Cu, Cu IUD, cuivre, cupric oxide, cupric sulfate, cuprum, CuSO4, elemental copper, inorganic copper, organic copper. EvidenceReturn to top These uses have been tested in humans or animals. Safety and effectiveness have not always been proven. Some of these conditions are potentially serious, and should be evaluated by a qualified healthcare provider. Uses based on scientific evidence Grade* Copper deficiency Copper deficiency may occur in infants fed only cow-milk formulas (which are relatively low in copper content), premature/low-birth weight infants, infants with prolonged diarrhea or malnutrition, individuals with malabsorption syndromes (including celiac disease, sprue, or short bowel syndrome), individuals with cystic fibrosis, in the elderly, or in those receiving intravenous total parenteral nutrition (TPN) or other restrictive diets. Such individuals may require supplementation with copper (and other trace elements). A Age-related macular degeneration There is not enough scientific evidence available to determine if copper plays a role in this disorder. C Alzheimer's disease prevention Conflicting study results report that copper intake may either increase or decrease the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease. Additional research is needed before a recommendation can be made. C Arthritis The use of copper bracelets in the treatment of arthritis has a long history of traditional use, with many anecdotal reports of effectiveness. There are research reports suggesting that copper salicylate may reduce arthritis symptoms more effectively than either copper or aspirin alone. Further study is needed before a firm recommendation can be made. C Cancer Preliminary research reports that lowering copper levels theoretically may arrest the progression of cancer by inhibiting blood vessel growth (angiogenesis). Copper intake has not been identified as a risk factor for the development or progression of cancer. C Cardiovascular disease prevention / atherosclerosis The effects of copper intake or blood copper levels on cholesterol, atherosclerosis (cholesterol plaques in arteries), or coronary artery disease remain unclear. Studies in humans are mixed, and further research is needed in this area. C Childhood growth promotion Severe copper deficiency may retard growth. Adequate intake of micronutrients including copper and other vitamins may promote growth as measured by length gains. C Dental conditions (protecting enamel and plaque prevention) Laboratory studies have shown that copper may help protect tooth enamel (the outer layer of the teeth). However, early human research suggests that copper may not be effective. C Immune system function Copper is involved in the development of immune cells and immune function in the body. Severe copper deficiency appears to have adverse effects on immune function, although the exact mechanism is not clear. C Malnutrition (marasmus) Copper deficiency may occur with marasmus, and supplementation with copper may play a role in the nutritional treatment of infants with this condition. Infants with marasmus should be managed by a qualified healthcare professional. C Menkes' kinky-hair disease Menkes' kinky-hair disease is a rare disorder of copper transport/absorption. Copper supplementation may be helpful in this disease, although further research is necessary before a clear recommendation can be made. C Metabolic disorders (trimethylaminuria) Trimethylaminuria (TMAU) is a metabolic disorder characterized by the inability to oxidize and convert dietary-derived trimethylamine (TMA) to trimethylamine N-oxide (TMAO). Preliminary evidence suggests that the use of copper chlorophyllin results in a reduced urinary-free TMA concentration and normalization of TMAO. Further research is required in this field before a strong recommendationscan be made. C Osteoporosis / osteopenia Osteopenia and other abnormalities of bone development related to copper deficiency may occur in copper-deficient low-birth weight infants and young children. Supplementation with copper may be helpful in the treatment and/or prevention of osteoporosis, although early human evidence is conflicting. The effects of copper deficiency or copper supplementation on bone metabolism and age-related osteoporosis require further research before clear conclusions can be drawn. C Schizophrenia Some studies of schizophrenic patients report high blood copper levels with low urinary copper (suggesting that copper is being retained), and low blood zinc levels. In some of these cases, zinc was observed to be helpful as an anti-anxiety agent. The role of copper supplementation is not clear. C Sideroblastic anemia Copper deficiency is one of the causes of sideroblastic anemia that should be considered when evaluating this condition, particularly when the anemia is unresponsive to iron therapy alone. This anemia appears to be caused by defective iron mobilization due to decreased ceruloplasmin activity. C Skin rejuvenation Copper has been used to reduce wrinkles and skin appearance following laser skin resurfacing. Currently, there is not enough scientific evidence to make recommendations for or against this use. C Systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) A preliminary study suggests that copper offers no benefit to individuals with SLE. Further research is required before recommendations can be made. C Neural-tube defect prevention The risk of neural-tube defects is decreased in women who take folic acid and multivitamins during the periconception period. Supplementation with trace-elements alone, such as copper, does not appear to prevent these defects. D *Key to grades A: Strong scientific evidence for this use; B: Good scientific evidence for this use; C: Unclear scientific evidence for this use; D: Fair scientific evidence against this use; F: Strong scientific evidence against this use. Grading rationale Uses based on tradition or theory The below uses are based on tradition or scientific theories. They often have not been thoroughly tested in humans, and safety and effectiveness have not always been proven. Some of these conditions are potentially serious, and should be evaluated by a qualified healthcare provider. Aflatoxin toxicity, allergies, anemia, antibacterial, antioxidant, athletic performance, bone healing, bronchitis, cataracts (prevention/progression), cognition, cystic fibrosis, decreasing cadmium absorption, depression, ethambutol-induced optic neuropathy, fatigue, fetal development, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, Hodgkin's disease biomarker, hyperactivity, infertility, learning disabilities, muscle ache, muscle cramps, optic nerve damage (ethambutol-induced), oral deodorant, phenylketonuria, pneumonia, premenstrual syndrome, psoriasis, senility, skin problems (stretch marks), stomach ulcer, toxicity (pyrrolizidine alkaloid), vitiligo, weight gain, wound healing. DosingReturn to top The below doses are based on scientific research, publications, traditional use, or expert opinion. Many herbs and supplements have not been thoroughly tested, and safety and effectiveness may not be proven. Brands may be made differently, with variable ingredients, even within the same brand. The below doses may not apply to all products. You should read product labels, and discuss doses with a qualified healthcare provider before starting therapy. Adults (18 years and older) The daily U.S. Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) is 900 micrograms for adults; 1,000 micrograms for pregnant women; 1,300 micrograms for nursing women; and 890 micrograms for adolescents 14-18 years old. Surveys suggest that most Americans consume less than the RDA for copper each day. Up to 10,000 micrograms daily appears to be safe for consumption in adults. Vegan diets appear to provide adequate amounts of copper. In a number of clinical trials copper doses of 2-10 milligrams by mouth were safely used in patients. For plaque inhibition, a 1.1mM copper rinse has been used for four days. The appropriate application of ointment preparations containing copper in concentrations up to 20% has also been studied with no apparent toxic effects. Children (younger than 18 years) The daily U.S. Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for children is 890 micrograms for adolescents 14-18 years old; 700 micrograms for children 9-13 years old; 440 micrograms for children 4-8 years old; 340 micrograms for children 1-3 years old; 220 micrograms for infants 7-12 months old; and 200 micrograms for infants 0-6 months old. Surveys suggest that most Americans consume less than the RDA for copper each day. Up to 3,000-5,000 micrograms daily appears to be safe for consumption in children. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-copper.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ More on the ingredients here: http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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