Re: Re: Not ready for kindergarten... Please advise.

[Guest guest]

i'd check the laws in you area regarding when " by law " the kids have to attend

school.  I know where I am that kids have to be enrolled in either traditional

or home school by 6 years of age, past that they are considered truant.  If you

feel your child isnt ready, don't let them " bully " you into making a snap

decision if you don't believe in it.  

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From: kkolackovsky <kkolackovsky@...>

Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 5:03:56 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Not ready for kindergarten... Please advise.

 

So many of the 'typical Kids " are held back for various crazy reasons ie. he is

shy, or the parentw just don't send them until another year and it seems ok for

those kids. Fight it. Just tell them, he is not ready and as a parent you can

make that decision. Kathy

>

> Much to me and my family's surprise yesterday, the ARD committee suggested

that my 5yo son (diagnosed 1.5 years ago as severe verbal apraxia, diagnosed

recently as moderate verbal dyspraxia w/ motor planning difficulties) start

kindergarten in the fall. They reviewed several test results that indicated

average to above average cognitive skills (not sure how someone who doesn't

speak to him on a regular basis understood his passage comprehension- -I

understand approximately 50% of what he says and am with him every day??), a

wonderful improvement in his speech (he was non-verbal 1.5 years ago), and a

more noticeable lag in his motor planning skills (=more OT than previously). It

was interesting for the principal of the elementary school he would be attending

to tell me she has several kids enter kinder each year who are far behind my son

when she has never had a conversation with him.

>

> My son cannot spell his name, much less write his name. He knows a couple of

colors inconsistently, he does not know his alphabet with the exception of the

letter E (his name begins with E). Most importantly, my son cannot adequately

communicate to be placed into public kindergarten. I believe it presents a

dangerous situation for him (not to mention the fact that he is going to hate

it). His disability has improved enough that I believe a special ed kinder will

be much too limiting for him. Our district does not have a transitional

kindergarten program.

>

> He needs another year to prepare, and I would really like to keep him at the

public preschool he is currently attending (and where he receives his ST and

OT). We do have an option of enrolling our son in a private preschool or

Montesorri. However, can anybody tell me what my legal rights are to keep him in

his current placement? My husband and I refused to accept their propose at the

ARD yesterday, so we meet again next Friday. Thank you for any insight.

>

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[Guest guest]

Bottom line is, YOU are his mother, YOU make the decisions. It is the law in PA

that the child starts school at 8 years old, and does not even have to go to

kindergarten. I held my 5 year old, will be 6 in July, back and he will go this

year - made a world of difference.....Don't let the school or anyone else force

you into sending your child to school if he is not ready....

[ ] Re: Not ready for kindergarten... Please

advise.

So many of the 'typical Kids " are held back for various crazy reasons ie. he

is shy, or the parentw just don't send them until another year and it seems ok

for those kids. Fight it. Just tell them, he is not ready and as a parent you

can make that decision. Kathy

>

> Much to me and my family's surprise yesterday, the ARD committee suggested

that my 5yo son (diagnosed 1.5 years ago as severe verbal apraxia, diagnosed

recently as moderate verbal dyspraxia w/ motor planning difficulties) start

kindergarten in the fall. They reviewed several test results that indicated

average to above average cognitive skills (not sure how someone who doesn't

speak to him on a regular basis understood his passage comprehension--I

understand approximately 50% of what he says and am with him every day??), a

wonderful improvement in his speech (he was non-verbal 1.5 years ago), and a

more noticeable lag in his motor planning skills (=more OT than previously). It

was interesting for the principal of the elementary school he would be attending

to tell me she has several kids enter kinder each year who are far behind my son

when she has never had a conversation with him.

>

> My son cannot spell his name, much less write his name. He knows a couple of

colors inconsistently, he does not know his alphabet with the exception of the

letter E (his name begins with E). Most importantly, my son cannot adequately

communicate to be placed into public kindergarten. I believe it presents a

dangerous situation for him (not to mention the fact that he is going to hate

it). His disability has improved enough that I believe a special ed kinder will

be much too limiting for him. Our district does not have a transitional

kindergarten program.

>

> He needs another year to prepare, and I would really like to keep him at the

public preschool he is currently attending (and where he receives his ST and

OT). We do have an option of enrolling our son in a private preschool or

Montesorri. However, can anybody tell me what my legal rights are to keep him in

his current placement? My husband and I refused to accept their propose at the

ARD yesterday, so we meet again next Friday. Thank you for any insight.

>

[Guest guest]

What is the mandatory school-attendance age in your state?  In mine it is age

7.  If such is the case for you, no state official can insist you enroll your

son in kindergarten at age 5, no matter what the " experts " say. 

I held my son (verbal apraxia, didn't talk until age 3) back a year, he didn't

start kindergarten until age 6.  He was 7 in first grade, 7 1/2 when I pulled

him out of public school altogether.  He's now 18.  In hindsight, I would not

have started him in any kind of formal school until he was 8; he just wasn't

ready until then, despite what a psychologist said at the time. After 1 1/2

years of public school, my son still couldn't read, was pounding himself on

the head calling himself " Stupid " and was practically catatonic.  Public

school regressed much of the progress he had made in speech therapy.  Schools

want these kind of kids because they get thousands of dollars of government

money for having them enrolled. Stand firm and trust your instincts!  You're

the true expert on your child.

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From: khaoskat <khaoskat@...>

Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 10:38:02 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Not ready for kindergarten... Please advise.

 

I am taking that this is a transitional meeting to go from pre-school aged

services to school aged services?

Your recourse is to ask for an independent evaluation by a person that is not

associated with the school and that the school district pay for it.

(Sorry, I am getting into these issues as well with my child and IEP's, but on

other areas than his speech.)

>

> Much to me and my family's surprise yesterday, the ARD committee suggested

that my 5yo son (diagnosed 1.5 years ago as severe verbal apraxia, diagnosed

recently as moderate verbal dyspraxia w/ motor planning difficulties) start

kindergarten in the fall. They reviewed several test results that indicated

average to above average cognitive skills (not sure how someone who doesn't

speak to him on a regular basis understood his passage comprehension- -I

understand approximately 50% of what he says and am with him every day??), a

wonderful improvement in his speech (he was non-verbal 1.5 years ago), and a

more noticeable lag in his motor planning skills (=more OT than previously). It

was interesting for the principal of the elementary school he would be attending

to tell me she has several kids enter kinder each year who are far behind my son

when she has never had a conversation with him.

>

> My son cannot spell his name, much less write his name. He knows a couple of

colors inconsistently, he does not know his alphabet with the exception of the

letter E (his name begins with E). Most importantly, my son cannot adequately

communicate to be placed into public kindergarten. I believe it presents a

dangerous situation for him (not to mention the fact that he is going to hate

it). His disability has improved enough that I believe a special ed kinder will

be much too limiting for him. Our district does not have a transitional

kindergarten program.

>

> He needs another year to prepare, and I would really like to keep him at the

public preschool he is currently attending (and where he receives his ST and

OT). We do have an option of enrolling our son in a private preschool or

Montesorri. However, can anybody tell me what my legal rights are to keep him in

his current placement? My husband and I refused to accept their propose at the

ARD yesterday, so we meet again next Friday. Thank you for any insight.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello

Way back when I sent Matt to K I was scared to death too. However, they will

not put her there without supports. You can also consider repeating K, we kept

Matt there for two years. It was a great choice for us. Also you might want to

check into half day K and half day PK. Sometimes that also works out great.

Good luck

Alyssa

On Apr 10, 2010, at 7:50 AM, " Tamara B " <tamab1214@...> wrote:

I am curious to see all the responses to this. I am in the exact place right

now. My daughter will be 5 in August and is almost completely nonverbal. She has

been in the public preschool for the past 2 years but they will not keep them

once they are age elidgable for kindergarten. They said I do not have to send

her to kindergarten but staying at her current school is not an option, they

have too many younger ones waiting to get in. It infuriates me becuase if I do

not send her on I feel she will lose a lot of the progress and structure she has

had for the last 2 years. Private preschools are not going to help her the way

her preschool has with the teachers being trained in special education and

equipped for any additional problems. I teach preschool and she started at my

school and it was not a good experience for her at all. So I know in my heart

that this is not an option. However if she were a typical child I would keep her

with me for one more year

without a second thought. She is so young and will start kindergarten before

she even turns 5. I have asked what my options are and they say I only have 2,

send her on or keep her back but in another place. It looks like right now

the plan is to send her on and I will have her repeat kindergarten unless

something major changes. I am scared to death of how this year will go though.

We do not know if a resource classroom or a regular one will be better. She is a

smart kid but being nonverbal and having a few other issues may hinder her ina

regular class. She loves school now and I am so scared that that will change

next year.

>

> Much to me and my family's surprise yesterday, the ARD committee suggested

that my 5yo son (diagnosed 1.5 years ago as severe verbal apraxia, diagnosed

recently as moderate verbal dyspraxia w/ motor planning difficulties) start

kindergarten in the fall. They reviewed several test results that indicated

average to above average cognitive skills (not sure how someone who doesn't

speak to him on a regular basis understood his passage comprehension--I

understand approximately 50% of what he says and am with him every day??), a

wonderful improvement in his speech (he was non-verbal 1.5 years ago), and a

more noticeable lag in his motor planning skills (=more OT than previously). It

was interesting for the principal of the elementary school he would be attending

to tell me she has several kids enter kinder each year who are far behind my son

when she has never had a conversation with him.

>

> My son cannot spell his name, much less write his name. He knows a couple of

colors inconsistently, he does not know his alphabet with the exception of the

letter E (his name begins with E). Most importantly, my son cannot adequately

communicate to be placed into public kindergarten. I believe it presents a

dangerous situation for him (not to mention the fact that he is going to hate

it). His disability has improved enough that I believe a special ed kinder will

be much too limiting for him. Our district does not have a transitional

kindergarten program.

>

> He needs another year to prepare, and I would really like to keep him at the

public preschool he is currently attending (and where he receives his ST and

OT). We do have an option of enrolling our son in a private preschool or

Montesorri. However, can anybody tell me what my legal rights are to keep him in

his current placement? My husband and I refused to accept their propose at the

ARD yesterday, so we meet again next Friday. Thank you for any insight.

>