Re: Regular Ed.class/aide vs. self contained UPDATE

[Guest guest]

Best of luck!  I hope she thrives in the new setting.

________________________________

From: capetalker <capetalker@...>

Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 12:00:52 PM

Subject: [ ] Regular Ed.class/aide vs. self contained UPDATE

 

Hi, sorry it has taken so long. We observed the current 2nd grade LLD self

contained classroom and the 3rd grade on the week before last. We were really

impressed with the second grade teacher and unfortunately didn't like the third

grade setting,and the teacher wasn't captivating.The third grade self contained

teacher made errors when she was doing a phonetic reading and spelling lesson

while we watched which just floored me. I wanted to rip the flash cards out of

her hand and tell the kids the right way to sound out the word. I couldn't

believe it. I know it seems crazy to say I don't want my child in her class on

one error,but I can't be there all the time to see how many other times she may

mess up. My husband thought the class room was not interesting and wasn't

impressed with the teacher even though he missed her messing up.

So, I may have had a knee jerk reaction to her current regular ED teacher and

resource room teacher saying all the things I said in my previous post about her

struggling to keep up,she is different than the other kids etc.;so, since we

really liked the teacher in the current self contained class and we loved the

setting,and the way instruction was set up we decided to transfer her over now.

Also, if she does better great,but if she still exhibits the same " zoning " out

behaviors, and just having trouble with classroom discussions,as they said she

does,(no kidding, she has verbal dyspraxia with language delays-how does she

talk over a bunch of enthusiastic normal speaking 2nd graders?)then it will show

them that it isn't the setting she is in, that it is her, and finding the right

teacher to encourage her to participate to her fullest is what is needed.

When I posted my question a few weeks ago someone said for me to not jump to the

conclusion that switching classes now would be disturbing to our daughter. You

were right! After I read that post I asked Shea if she would be interested in

trying a new classroom. Shea asked why, and if the new teacher was nice, and if

the teacher would like her.We set up for her to visit the class, and the school

let her spend reading time there for three days. Shea loved it and asked if she

could be in the new class. Shea also asked if her regular teacher was going with

her, or her aide(which she doesn't know it's her aide,she thinks she's a

classroom helper).I asked if she wanted them to, and she said " NO I Want to go

by myself. " What a trooper! The self contained teacher didn't want her to have

an aide. She has 2 aides with her who help with supplemental instruction for the

14 children.The self contained class has a high functioning group of kids and

they are all working from a second grade math work book and doing writing and

spelling much at the second grade level.There are diffent groups and levels in

the class. It totally shed my preconceived notions of self contained.

I hope my decision was right for now. I want her to be in regular ed with

resource next year since we didn't like the teacher. This year I felt her

resource teacher didn't embrace Shea and her difficulties as something she

really wanted to help or could figure out how to help.I think she just had her

ways and her strategies of doing things and Shea didn't fit into her box.

I want to thank every one so much again for your input. Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cheryl- so glad you found a class that may work very well for your daughter!!

yeah!! I haven't been following your story..does your daughter has ASD and

apraxia? I am wondering if children without ASD can, sometimes, thrive in self

contained classes, esp preschool levels.

thanks! and good luck!!

Ivy

>

> Hi, sorry it has taken so long. We observed the current 2nd grade LLD self

contained classroom and the 3rd grade on the week before last. We were really

impressed with the second grade teacher and unfortunately didn't like the third

grade setting,and the teacher wasn't captivating.The third grade self contained

teacher made errors when she was doing a phonetic reading and spelling lesson

while we watched which just floored me. I wanted to rip the flash cards out of

her hand and tell the kids the right way to sound out the word. I couldn't

believe it. I know it seems crazy to say I don't want my child in her class on

one error,but I can't be there all the time to see how many other times she may

mess up. My husband thought the class room was not interesting and wasn't

impressed with the teacher even though he missed her messing up.

> So, I may have had a knee jerk reaction to her current regular ED teacher and

resource room teacher saying all the things I said in my previous post about her

struggling to keep up,she is different than the other kids etc.;so, since we

really liked the teacher in the current self contained class and we loved the

setting,and the way instruction was set up we decided to transfer her over now.

Also, if she does better great,but if she still exhibits the same " zoning " out

behaviors, and just having trouble with classroom discussions,as they said she

does,(no kidding, she has verbal dyspraxia with language delays-how does she

talk over a bunch of enthusiastic normal speaking 2nd graders?)then it will show

them that it isn't the setting she is in, that it is her, and finding the right

teacher to encourage her to participate to her fullest is what is needed.

> When I posted my question a few weeks ago someone said for me to not jump to

the conclusion that switching classes now would be disturbing to our daughter.

You were right! After I read that post I asked Shea if she would be interested

in trying a new classroom. Shea asked why, and if the new teacher was nice, and

if the teacher would like her.We set up for her to visit the class, and the

school let her spend reading time there for three days. Shea loved it and asked

if she could be in the new class. Shea also asked if her regular teacher was

going with her, or her aide(which she doesn't know it's her aide,she thinks

she's a classroom helper).I asked if she wanted them to, and she said " NO I Want

to go by myself. " What a trooper! The self contained teacher didn't want her to

have an aide. She has 2 aides with her who help with supplemental instruction

for the 14 children.The self contained class has a high functioning group of

kids and they are all working from a second grade math work book and doing

writing and spelling much at the second grade level.There are diffent groups and

levels in the class. It totally shed my preconceived notions of self contained.

> I hope my decision was right for now. I want her to be in regular ed with

resource next year since we didn't like the teacher. This year I felt her

resource teacher didn't embrace Shea and her difficulties as something she

really wanted to help or could figure out how to help.I think she just had her

ways and her strategies of doing things and Shea didn't fit into her box.

> I want to thank every one so much again for your input. Cheryl

>

[Guest guest]

Ivy, she does not have ASD,truly, but if you took every habit, or behavior,or

problem over the years-she's 7 now-you could say she is somewhere on the

spectrum, sometimes not. I know that sounds rediculous but that's just how

confusing this has all been. She does certainly have global dyspraxia and

sensory processing disorder.

The homework she has been doing in the self contained class is also involving

language work besides just writing, reading and math.Also, the new teacher moved

her up 2 levels in reading from the resource teacher,because she realized it was

more the fluency and comprehension and not her inability to read the words as i

kept trying to tell her old teacher. Also. there is a better story to follow for

comprehension, than the phonetic books.

It's only been a week but i'm happy and she's happy.There are 2 kids in her

class that are above grade level in reading and math ,but one is there

apparently because he can't handle the large classroom setting(that's what the

case worker said).

I think every class room situation depends on the teacher, and the school, and

what group of children are placed together. Don't you wish you could customize

the class every year? Thanks for the comments , Cheryl

> >

> > Hi, sorry it has taken so long. We observed the current 2nd grade LLD self

contained classroom and the 3rd grade on the week before last. We were really

impressed with the second grade teacher and unfortunately didn't like the third

grade setting,and the teacher wasn't captivating.The third grade self contained

teacher made errors when she was doing a phonetic reading and spelling lesson

while we watched which just floored me. I wanted to rip the flash cards out of

her hand and tell the kids the right way to sound out the word. I couldn't

believe it. I know it seems crazy to say I don't want my child in her class on

one error,but I can't be there all the time to see how many other times she may

mess up. My husband thought the class room was not interesting and wasn't

impressed with the teacher even though he missed her messing up.

> > So, I may have had a knee jerk reaction to her current regular ED teacher

and resource room teacher saying all the things I said in my previous post about

her struggling to keep up,she is different than the other kids etc.;so, since we

really liked the teacher in the current self contained class and we loved the

setting,and the way instruction was set up we decided to transfer her over now.

Also, if she does better great,but if she still exhibits the same " zoning " out

behaviors, and just having trouble with classroom discussions,as they said she

does,(no kidding, she has verbal dyspraxia with language delays-how does she

talk over a bunch of enthusiastic normal speaking 2nd graders?)then it will show

them that it isn't the setting she is in, that it is her, and finding the right

teacher to encourage her to participate to her fullest is what is needed.

> > When I posted my question a few weeks ago someone said for me to not jump

to the conclusion that switching classes now would be disturbing to our

daughter. You were right! After I read that post I asked Shea if she would be

interested in trying a new classroom. Shea asked why, and if the new teacher was

nice, and if the teacher would like her.We set up for her to visit the class,

and the school let her spend reading time there for three days. Shea loved it

and asked if she could be in the new class. Shea also asked if her regular

teacher was going with her, or her aide(which she doesn't know it's her aide,she

thinks she's a classroom helper).I asked if she wanted them to, and she said " NO

I Want to go by myself. " What a trooper! The self contained teacher didn't want

her to have an aide. She has 2 aides with her who help with supplemental

instruction for the 14 children.The self contained class has a high functioning

group of kids and they are all working from a second grade math work book and

doing writing and spelling much at the second grade level.There are diffent

groups and levels in the class. It totally shed my preconceived notions of self

contained.

> > I hope my decision was right for now. I want her to be in regular ed with

resource next year since we didn't like the teacher. This year I felt her

resource teacher didn't embrace Shea and her difficulties as something she

really wanted to help or could figure out how to help.I think she just had her

ways and her strategies of doing things and Shea didn't fit into her box.

> > I want to thank every one so much again for your input. Cheryl

> >

>