Re: Ultimate Omega vs EPA vs Omega 3/6/9 (sorry for all the omega questions)

[Guest guest]

, can you give me your opinion on this, but if you don't know the answer,

that's okay too. I hope someone will give me their thoughts though.

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> I have been using ultimate omega (from what I read, it's the same as EPA but a

different dose) for a about a month or so on my son and I see a difference in

where he is attempting new words. He isn't officially disgnosed apraxic by the

way but he does have a speech disorder. I just switched him onto 3/6/9 as of

this past sundy (2 capsules a day) and he doesn't seem to be doing as well. He

stopped trying to say any words and overall he just seems different, not really

focused. I am hoping it is just a coincedence and that I need to give it more

time, especially because I literally just started to give it to him. I thought

I read on the apraxia boards that 3/6/9 is suppose to give the best result. My

questions are:

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> Can I use Ultimate Omega with 3/6/9 instead of using EPA with 3/6/9?

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> OR Can I use Ultimate Omega with borage (sp?) oil and eliminate the 3/6/9

completely? I would rather do this.

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> I would rather not eliminate the Ultimate Omega at all. I know I just started

the 369 and I plan on giving it a while before switching back but so far I am

not comfortable using it. It's such a lower dose of omegas.

>

[Guest guest]

No problem -but can you clarify who the manufacturer is -or maybe provide a link

to exactly what you are using? Nordic's Ultimate Omega (many brands use the

same names!!) does not have borage seed oil in it. Nordic's 369 does. If you

look at the dosages for the professional line here http://www.speech411.com

which formula best fits what you were using and what you switched to.

Outside of that I go with the old saying 'if it's not broken don't fix it' If

the first formula worked better than the second -dump the second...not that you

can't find one better or a way to make it better -but clearly for your child

switching him wasn't a good thing. With fish oils we know right away.

I can only share what has worked in the majority over the years -but there are

exceptions if you are seeing greater surges on a pure Omega 3 with just DHA and

EPA...but from what you wrote...sounds like you are using a brand that does have

the Omega 6/GLA from borage in it. If it isn't Nordic Naturals -you want to

make sure the source is borage 'seed' oil due to something called the PAs..some

rat study and you'd have to use tons to make a difference -but to not worry at

all just use the borage seed. 369/ ProEFA only uses the borage seed oil. And

in conclusion it's not that name brand matters -just formula, dosage and quality

-but that's where I'm not sure what you are using. I wrote this up for the fish

oils at our new site

http://pursuitofresearch.org/2010/12/01/therapeutic-use-of-fish-oil-for-apraxia-\

autism-and-other-communication-impairments/

Let me know the exact brands -thanks!

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[Guest guest]

I have been using Nordic naturals ultimate omega. I don't think it has omega

6/gla, but on the label it lists: EPA 650mg, DHA 450mg, Other Omega-3s 180 (it

doesn't say which omega this is, it just says the words " other omega-3s), total

omega-3s 1280mg, Oleic Acid(omega 9) 56mg. Based on this, do you know what

" other omega " means? Could it be omega 6 but it's just not written out? Also, if

it isn't, do you think I should add borage oil and if so how much?

(I give 2 capsules a day, once in the morning, one at night. He typically

doesn't take the full dose each time so he is really getting less than what the

label says.)

Thank you! I appreciate the advice!

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> No problem -but can you clarify who the manufacturer is -or maybe provide a

link to exactly what you are using? Nordic's Ultimate Omega (many brands use

the same names!!) does not have borage seed oil in it. Nordic's 369 does. If

you look at the dosages for the professional line here http://www.speech411.com

which formula best fits what you were using and what you switched to.

>

> Outside of that I go with the old saying 'if it's not broken don't fix it' If

the first formula worked better than the second -dump the second...not that you

can't find one better or a way to make it better -but clearly for your child

switching him wasn't a good thing. With fish oils we know right away.

>

> I can only share what has worked in the majority over the years -but there are

exceptions if you are seeing greater surges on a pure Omega 3 with just DHA and

EPA...but from what you wrote...sounds like you are using a brand that does have

the Omega 6/GLA from borage in it. If it isn't Nordic Naturals -you want to

make sure the source is borage 'seed' oil due to something called the PAs..some

rat study and you'd have to use tons to make a difference -but to not worry at

all just use the borage seed. 369/ ProEFA only uses the borage seed oil. And

in conclusion it's not that name brand matters -just formula, dosage and quality

-but that's where I'm not sure what you are using. I wrote this up for the fish

oils at our new site

http://pursuitofresearch.org/2010/12/01/therapeutic-use-of-fish-oil-for-apraxia-\

autism-and-other-communication-impairments/

>

> Let me know the exact brands -thanks!

>

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[Guest guest]

, I am sorry, I just re-read what you wrote, you said ultimate omega nordic

naturals didn't have borage oil. In this case, do you think it's okay to add

borage oil and if so, how much oil do I add per each capsule of ultimate omega.

>

> No problem -but can you clarify who the manufacturer is -or maybe provide a

link to exactly what you are using? Nordic's Ultimate Omega (many brands use

the same names!!) does not have borage seed oil in it. Nordic's 369 does. If

you look at the dosages for the professional line here http://www.speech411.com

which formula best fits what you were using and what you switched to.

>

> Outside of that I go with the old saying 'if it's not broken don't fix it' If

the first formula worked better than the second -dump the second...not that you

can't find one better or a way to make it better -but clearly for your child

switching him wasn't a good thing. With fish oils we know right away.

>

> I can only share what has worked in the majority over the years -but there are

exceptions if you are seeing greater surges on a pure Omega 3 with just DHA and

EPA...but from what you wrote...sounds like you are using a brand that does have

the Omega 6/GLA from borage in it. If it isn't Nordic Naturals -you want to

make sure the source is borage 'seed' oil due to something called the PAs..some

rat study and you'd have to use tons to make a difference -but to not worry at

all just use the borage seed. 369/ ProEFA only uses the borage seed oil. And

in conclusion it's not that name brand matters -just formula, dosage and quality

-but that's where I'm not sure what you are using. I wrote this up for the fish

oils at our new site

http://pursuitofresearch.org/2010/12/01/therapeutic-use-of-fish-oil-for-apraxia-\

autism-and-other-communication-impairments/

>

> Let me know the exact brands -thanks!

>

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[Guest guest]

Just read both your messages and reread your first- I read what you wrote " OR

Can I use Ultimate Omega with borage (sp?) oil and eliminate the 3/6/9

completely? " and thought you were using a product called Ultimate Omega that was

already 'with' borage oil. If your child is surging on the EPA and DHA

alone...I'd just stick with that and not worry about adding anything else. But

if you want to add GLA to try it at some point -probably easier to buy some

primrose oil than borage seed oil -and just use a drop or so per serving. But

my feeling is stick with what is working. It's OK if your child's needs are a

bit different than they are for the majority -it's probably impossible for any

one thing to work the exact same for everyone...the good news is that you are

seeing surges and found what works for your child!

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