Re: SCD vs Nutriiveda

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, I certainly have no debate with NV and it's healing power - I know when I

take it myself (and I have been for a month now), I feel great - energetic, no

cravings, clear-headed, just overall " well " and I do absolutely believe it has a

unique blend of nutrients that have not been seen in a supplement that we know

of to date. I just wonder if it was the correct thing to be using for my own

son and for his ASD, compared to those who may choose to use it primarily for

apraxia and other such brain/motor conditions. Additionally, we may certainly

come back to NV at some later point when there have been more case studies on

ASD children rather than a mixed population - my son is also apraxic and I want

to reiterate that we did indeed see improvements in speech, but just didn't have

enough information from others' reports to explain what might have been

happening in terms of the other behaviours we saw - they might have been

temporary, they might have symbolized some brain chemistry changes, they might

have been cause for real concern... I just didn't have enough information at

this time to be comfortable with it and will wait for more long term reports on

NV rather than speculate what is going on. I do believe that you are on the

right path with NV and the growing involvement of doctors and professionals in

the research around it is inspiring.

Finally, I appreciate your info about the SCD, but note that you cite someone

who had UC - ulcerative colitis - who was disillusioned with the diet, not ASD.

Additionally, the SCD for autism need not necessarily be forever - it is

intended to be for a duration of healing and then gradually to reintroduce

regular foods as they are tolerated - possibly NV will work in the same way so

that at some point one wouldn't see regressions with discontinued use, but we

don't know that yet. At any rate, I don't expect a " cure " from anything - not a

supplement or a diet, such as SCD - what I do hope to do is to recover my son

from his predominant symptoms associated with ASD so that he can have a better

life.

Tatyana

son 4.5 with ASD/apraxia

[ ] SCD vs Nutriiveda

Tatyana it's great for each of us to share because that is how we learn. Are

you putting your child on SCD due to food allergies? I know of no side effects

of food and there are none documented for Nutriiveda -but do know there are

allergies. Each ingredient in Nutriiveda is certified food by the FDA. The only

side effects reported here for Nutriiveda are changes in behavior similar to

what we've heard about fish oils over the years which are temporary and can be

explained in the positive as wel l. With Nutriiveda we do know the all natural

protein and all the essential amino acids found in the protein naturally raise

the glutothione in the body which leads to detox and hydration is most important

during this stage. Loweing dosage and increasing water is what is recommended.

Outside of allergy to food however there are no side effects of Nutriiveda as

again it is a food. All side effects of the detox stage are listed here

http://pursuitofrese arch.org/faq.html

I'm really not sure why you believe and state that Nuriiveda is not helping to

heal the brain as from Mel's doctor's opinion it is the " only explanation " as to

why her brain is healing based on extensive neuro testing after only being on it

for months. After seeing my own son Tanner and even prior to hearing validation

from Mel's doctor there is no doubt in my mind that Nutriiveda is helping

Tanner's body to heal itself. It's not that it's a medicine or that there are

any medications in it -agai n it's just food -but food he has clearly not had

before and there is more and more research linking nutrition to neuro repair

such as this about the importance of amino acids in neuro repair

http://www.sflorg.com/comm_center/medical/p974_99.html Of course the route you

are going is also dealing with food and dietary - but while Nutriiveda is highly

generous in proving essential nutrients and it's easy to follow even if on e had

to for life hypothetically -SCD is highly restrictive in what nutrients are

allowed to be provided to the body -and difficult to follow in my opinion even

for a week no less life!!!

Of course you want to go with your gut, what you believe best for your child

and lifestyle together with what your doctor recommends. I grew up on GFCF and

as a child thought that was bad enough but know that those who choose to go the

SCD diet are choosing a hard core diet which is extremely tough for even the

most diligent to follow. As far as I know there is no proof that this diet will

cure. I did find this one page which is quite long and it's from people who have

been on the SCD diet for years... (hu ge page -I'm only putting the first post)

Debate and concern about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet [3]

On and off, off and on...

Tue, 6 May 1997 19:39:01 GMT

I am slowly coming to the conclusion that the SCD diet, which has given me my

life back

in many ways, controls the symptoms of UC, but won't cure me. Therefore, I am

THINKING

of staying on the diet, med-free for 11 months a year, then taking prednisone

and

asuphazaline for 1 month (or maybe only 2 weeks a year) and treating myself to

daily

doses of things like Pizza, Ice cream, Beer, Chocolate, bread, rice, pasta,

cake,

etc.....

Does anyone else feel that they are never going to get fully better, and that

a brief

time off the diet, with the help of medication, for a short enough period so

as not to

screw up one's metabolism won't set them back? I base this on the fact that

I've had

mild relapses, and with the diet, they have sort of gone away (but never

completely,

except for the occasional day). I believe that I am being extremely strict in

avoiding

complex carbohydrates...

Cirillo

http://www.scdiet.org/7archives/scd024_3.html

We know for life we need nutrients -it's how we choose to get them -and how

our children once they grow up choose to get them. I'm even more sure now based

on the last email I just sent out here that there will be research to validate

Nutriiveda.

Best of luck on your journey.

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[Guest guest]

Tatyana - your post reminded me of some things that happened with my son when we

started vitamin E supplementation after about 6 months of EFA supplementation.

We noticed his pain response started to 'normalize'...this is a child that

clocked his head on an iron baseboard heating element and just blinked a few

times before getting up and going back to playing. You should have seen the knot

above his eyebrow...after a few weeks of vitamin e he started saying one

syllable words and crying when he got hurt... But once his pain response

normalized, we realized how much constant pain he was in and life became quite

unbearable for a time. Gut, head, ear - it was very rough and behaviors started

appearing in this normally very, very happy go lucky (although non-verbal)

child. That was 3.5 years ago. Just recently we added a new supplement that is

supposed to help the cells use the fatty acids better - again we had a spike in

behaviors to the point that we had to remove the supplement, address the areas

of pain and then we'll try it again.

I'm not saying that is what happened with your child, but something struck a

chord, and I'd thought I'd take a chance and mention our experience.

Much love and patience,