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I looked at the web site and I am still unsure on HOW it works. Does anyone

know that?

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unconditional love. I gift you with my innocent trust and my total dependency. I

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Under the tab (About Touchmath-How it works) it explains it better than I could.

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I looked at the web site and I am still unsure on HOW it works. Does anyone

know that?

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Beth

http://www.tracheostomy.com/trachkids/kids2/brittany.htm

I am the " special needs " child. I am your teacher. If you allow me, I will

teach you what is really important in life. I will give you and teach you

unconditional love. I gift you with my innocent trust and my total dependency. I

teach you about how precious this life is and about not taking things for

granted. I teach you about forgetting your own needs and desires and dreams. I

teach you giving. Most of all, I teach you hope and faith. ~Author Unknown~

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I just requested that 's teacher starting using it this year in 1st

grade. She said... " Oh, I did an in-service about that a few years ago " .....

and I'm thinking " then why did I have to tell you to start using it..... you

should have known! " Anyway, there was typical kid in my older daughter's class

who had a learning disability, and he was using it in 2nd grade. I asked him

about it, and he demonstrated how to add and subtract, using the touchpoints.

It seemed really easy to learn, and very straightforward...... you learned the

touchpoints and the " rules " , and off you went, doing the regular class

worksheets. I think that in the beginning, adding the touchpoints to her

numbers probably makes sense, but hopefully the teacher will implement the

program and also give us some advice for at home.

, mom to (is almost 9 a pre-teen???), (6 DS), and

(5)

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> From: Beth Fairfield <bethfairfield@...>

> Date: 2004/09/17 Fri AM 08:47:39 EDT

> DownSyndromeParents ,

> Subject: Math

>

> Any one familiar with the touch math program? Brit's teacher thinks that she

will benifit from it. I would like more info.

>

> Hugs

> Beth

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> http://www.tracheostomy.com/trachkids/kids2/brittany.htm

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> I am the " special needs " child. I am your teacher. If you allow me, I will

teach you what is really important in life. I will give you and teach you

unconditional love. I gift you with my innocent trust and my total dependency. I

teach you about how precious this life is and about not taking things for

granted. I teach you about forgetting your own needs and desires and dreams. I

teach you giving. Most of all, I teach you hope and faith. ~Author Unknown~

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I was never good at math.

I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00 get

achalasia.

I wanted to figure out what percentage of the

population that is.

So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.

How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of one

percent?

Any math wizards out there?

Dave

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Dave,

To get the percentage, you need 1 more step: multiply by 100. So the

proper formula would be 1/100,000*100, which gives 0.001 percent, or

one one-thousandth of one percent.

I've heard that it's 1 in 5,000. I guess it depends on which website

you look at.

Jeff

>

> I was never good at math.

> I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00 get

> achalasia.

> I wanted to figure out what percentage of the

> population that is.

> So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.

> How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of one

> percent?

> Any math wizards out there?

> Dave

>

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great, thanks.

--- " J. " <jsmith21703@...> wrote:

> Dave,

>

> To get the percentage, you need 1 more step:

> multiply by 100. So the

> proper formula would be 1/100,000*100, which gives

> 0.001 percent, or

> one one-thousandth of one percent.

>

> I've heard that it's 1 in 5,000. I guess it depends

> on which website

> you look at.

>

> Jeff

>

>

> >

> > I was never good at math.

> > I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00

> get

> > achalasia.

> > I wanted to figure out what percentage of the

> > population that is.

> > So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.

> > How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of

> one

> > percent?

> > Any math wizards out there?

> > Dave

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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1/100000 x 100% = 0.001% of the population have achalasia.

I am a math teacher and fellow achalasia guy . Also, a guy with 2 wonderful children.

And, a guy who does triathlons.

Now, here's a math problem.

What are the odds of a math teacher , with 2 children, who completed the Ironman Triathlon, and has achalasia ???

I bet I am the only one. Now I feel special !

From: david hamilton <davster13@...>Reply-achalasia To: achalasia Subject: Re: MathDate: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:31:44 -0800 (PST)I was never good at math.I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00 getachalasia.I wanted to figure out what percentage of thepopulation that is.So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of onepercent?Any math wizards out there?Dave__________________________________________________

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I think NOBODY knows how many people really have it.

When I was first diagnosed in the mid-90s, it was reported as "three in a million". (And here I always thought I was "one in a million"!)

I think that with the internet and advances in diagnostic ability and data collection, people are realizing that it's much, much higher than that. How many people in this group were told FOR YEARS that they had GERD or Asthma or some other disorder, only to discover that they really had achalasia? How many people go years and years without being diagnosed at all? These people aren't reported as having achalasia... but that doesn't mean that they don't have it. The numbers only include how many people are REPORTED, not how many actually have the disorder.

I believe said her surgeon had done about 30 myotomies (if memory serves correctly). There are roughly 250,000 people in our county ( and I live in the same county, for those who didn't realize that), and this guy's done 30 or so myotomies. That would be 1 out of 8,300 people in our county.... and that doesn't include anyone that:

A) hasn't had a myotomy yet (like me)

B) hasn't been properly diagnosed yet (took three years for me to find the reason for my dysphagia)

C) has had a myotomy but not by this doctor

I think that as more and more people go to their doctors to get treatment for their "reflux" (thanks to all the prodding from the drug companies' advertisements), more and more cases of achalasia are getting diagnosed and reported.

Debbi in SW Michigan

PS -- , you ARE special! :o)

1/100000 x 100% = 0.001% of the population have achalasia.

I am a math teacher and fellow achalasia guy . Also, a guy with 2 wonderful children.

And, a guy who does triathlons.

Now, here's a math problem.

What are the odds of a math teacher , with 2 children, who completed the Ironman Triathlon, and has achalasia ???

I bet I am the only one. Now I feel special !

From: david hamilton <davster13@...>Reply-achalasia To: achalasia Subject: Re: MathDate: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:31:44 -0800 (PST)I was never good at math.I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00 getachalasia.I wanted to figure out what percentage of thepopulation that is.So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of onepercent?Any math wizards out there?Dave__________________________________________________

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I think we are all pretty special!

There are alot of Mathematicians & Physicists in the group...also alot

of artists, musicians, photographers & writers. I think that makes us

all very creative types...I have always wondered if there is any link

here?

Dr. Patti told me " one in one hundred thousand have achalasia " ...and

then in my case having achalasia with a myotomy that is no longer

functioning properly, that makes my case " one in a million " ...

Well I always liked being unique...but in this case...I might prefer

to be just a tad less special! ;)

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- you are special. Hope you have a happy and healthy 2006. All the best.............

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1/100000 x 100% = 0.001% of the population have achalasia.

I am a math teacher and fellow achalasia guy . Also, a guy with 2 wonderful children.

And, a guy who does triathlons.

Now, here's a math problem.

What are the odds of a math teacher , with 2 children, who completed the Ironman Triathlon, and has achalasia ???

I bet I am the only one. Now I feel special !

From: david hamilton <davster13@...>Reply-achalasia To: achalasia Subject: Re: MathDate: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:31:44 -0800 (PST)I was never good at math.I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00 getachalasia.I wanted to figure out what percentage of thepopulation that is.So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of onepercent?Any math wizards out there?Dave__________________________________________________

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just for fun... Dont you think that it is possibly represented more like ..(achalasia sufferers) A=1/1000th of 1% of P (the total population of the world, like 5 bill?.) . which at 5 bill would be more like 1 in 50k girl math : ) Carolyn"J. " <jsmith21703@...> wrote: Dave,To get the percentage, you need 1 more step: multiply by 100. So theproper formula would be 1/100,000*100, which gives 0.001 percent, orone one-thousandth of one percent.I've heard that it's 1 in 5,000. I guess it depends on which websiteyou look at.Jeff>> I was never good at math.> I think someone here said that 1 person in 100,00 get> achalasia.> I

wanted to figure out what percentage of the> population that is.> So, you divide 1000,000 into 1 and you get .00001.> How do you say .00001? Is it 100 thousandth of one> percent?> Any math wizards out there?> Dave> > __________________________________________________>

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Your math is pretty close. Assuming your lean mass stays the same, you

would need to lose 10 pounds of fat (weigh 143) to hit 23% and 15

pounds of fat (weigh 138) to hit 20%. If you're able to gain some

muscle along the way, you don't even need to lose that much. You're

closing in on it for sure!

On 3/7/06, n <mtpaper@...> wrote:

> I think I'm thinking wrong....

> I am down to about 153#, and about 28% body fat; I thought I needed to be

> at 20% bf to be 'healthy'

>

> Double=checking my little body-fat chart that came with my Omron bodyfat

> monitor, I see that 23%-34% is the healthy range for my age. Well, that's

> certainly good news for me (ie, I'm already in the healthy range, and I

> didn't realize it!)

>

> Assuming that I want to be at 20-23%, that means I need to lose 5%-8% of my

> bodyweight via fat. That tells me I'm within 8-13 pounds of my goal of

> being at 20%-23% bodyfat.

>

> And I can't wrap my head around that. It seems inconceivable that I'm so

> close to my goal.... When I think of going from 28% to 20-23%, it seems

> far away. When I think of it being 8-13 pounds, I think -

> wow-I'm-really-close-to-a-great-goal!!!!

>

> Is this real, or am I forgetting a part of the equation???

>

> Thanks

> n

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According to your stats, you have 110 lbs of lean muscle tissue,

multiply that by .20 is 22 lbs of fat. That puts your goal at 132

lbs (if you gain no lean muscle mass). That's 21 lbs to lose...

sorry!

haha. Jami

>

> I think I'm thinking wrong....

> I am down to about 153#, and about 28% body fat; I thought I

needed to be

> at 20% bf to be 'healthy'

>

> Double=checking my little body-fat chart that came with my Omron

bodyfat

> monitor, I see that 23%-34% is the healthy range for my age.

Well, that's

> certainly good news for me (ie, I'm already in the healthy range,

and I

> didn't realize it!)

>

> Assuming that I want to be at 20-23%, that means I need to lose 5%-

8% of my

> bodyweight via fat. That tells me I'm within 8-13 pounds of my

goal of

> being at 20%-23% bodyfat.

>

> And I can't wrap my head around that. It seems inconceivable that

I'm so

> close to my goal.... When I think of going from 28% to 20-23%, it

seems

> far away. When I think of it being 8-13 pounds, I think -

> wow-I'm-really-close-to-a-great-goal!!!!

>

> Is this real, or am I forgetting a part of the equation???

>

> Thanks

> n

>

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And that haha was leftover from a comment I deleted.

I deleted this: healthy bodyfat vs Hot, totally different thing!!!

Jami

> >

> > I think I'm thinking wrong....

> > I am down to about 153#, and about 28% body fat; I thought I

> needed to be

> > at 20% bf to be 'healthy'

> >

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Hi Jami -

Thanks for the input, but I disagree with your math - it doesn't work to

take the lbm and multiply that by 20%, which is what you've done.

By your math, at 132 pounds and 20% bodyfat, I'd have 26 pounds of fat, and

my LBM would be down to 106.

The 110 pounds EXCLUDES the body fat; by your math, it INCLUDES the body fat.

Instead, I think you need to take the lbm and see what that is 80% of (if I

want to be 20% bodyfat) or 77% (if I want to be 23% bodyfat)

110/.8 = 138 would give me 20% body fat, assuming I stay at the 110 LBM

110/.77 = 143 would give me 23% bodyfat, assuming I stay at the 110 LBM

Assuming I only lose body fat, I'm looking at 5-10 pounds (which, coming

from being over 200#, is a very nice number to be looking at!)

All of this is just playing with numbers. I intend to lose the 5-10 pounds

of fat, but I fully suspect that I will pack on some more muscle, and end

up higher than 138 scale-wise. I'm just psyched to be this close to

reaching some long-term goals.

n

At 11:49 AM 3/7/2006, you wrote:

>According to your stats, you have 110 lbs of lean muscle tissue,

>multiply that by .20 is 22 lbs of fat. That puts your goal at 132

>lbs (if you gain no lean muscle mass). That's 21 lbs to lose...

>sorry!

>Jami

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I'm totally with on this one!

Deb

--- M Jansen <nucleus24@...> wrote:

> Indeed l in 100 is the same mathmatically as 10 in

> 1,000. BUT wouldn't

> you like to know that 1,000 devices were included in

> a study? Rather

> than just 100? That was my point. Both have the

> same 99%, but the

> larger the study, the more reliable the results.

>

>

>

> It seems to me that 1 in 100 and 10 in 1000 are

> mathematically

> equivalent.

> That is, unless someone has changed statistics in

> the past 1,000 years.

>

> Beth

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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Here's a plain " flash cards " program you can use on the web to learn

basic math facts:

math.about.com/library/blmathfacts.htm#top

Here are a bunch of games that have flash cards incorporated in them:

www.education-world.com/a_lesson/04/lp339-05.shtml

Good luck,

Liz

On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:16 PM, monica wrote:

> Does anyone else have a child that is having difficulty in Math? My DS

> with Asperger's is having a hard time still with his basic math

> facts,meaning adding and subtracting. They are now moving into

> multiplication and fractions and his teacher is worried that he is

> falling too far behind. Any tips on how to get him to learn the basic

> facts? Thanks,=)

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My son struggled too.. but once they used " manipulatives.. " eg: my son had a

shark fixation.. so they used Sharks teeth.. and had actual teeth to count.. and

add and subract.. and put it into a social story of sort.

if a shark looses three teeth while eating a tuna fish... how many are left?

kind of stuff.

so find out something your son likes...

rocks? anything like that.. and use them and encorporate it into his learning

math.

It worked well with my son.. and now.. his math is on task with his actual age

range of grade 6

( ) Math

Does anyone else have a child that is having difficulty in Math? My DS

with Asperger's is having a hard time still with his basic math

facts,meaning adding and subtracting. They are now moving into

multiplication and fractions and his teacher is worried that he is

falling too far behind. Any tips on how to get him to learn the basic

facts? Thanks,=)

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, you may want to ask questions about he curriculum being used. There

is research to backup that Everyday Math is not the best curriculum for

children on the autism spectrum because it is spiraling. My son struggles in

Math

and I had to have them modify the curriculum and provide him with time with the

resource teacher to spend on the concepts he is not mastering. Pam :)

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" Math facts " aren't Beth's strong area either. I had concerns too. However,

she's great at math as a whole. She's even going to skip a grade in math next

year. Personally, I don't think she's very good at them still because she's

slow with them. She can always get the right answer if you give her enough time

though.

I would suggest the School House Rock video/soundtrack for multiplication.

Beth's multiplication skills are a lot stronger than the other three and I think

it's because she can use the songs to help her.

Kirsten

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, I began collecting data at the beginning of last year. His report

cards, math papers that were coming home with very low scores, NECAP (state

testing) scores. Went in showed them all my data and talked briefly about

Everyday Math maybe not being the best way to teach my son Math. Then they did

some

educational testing in Math and low and behold the test scores showed deficits

in several of the Math subtest areas. They only gave him 1/2 hour of

resource in Math a week this year...but at the IEP I just attended a few weeks

ago,

they had Math goals written in (which they have never done before) and also had

him in resource for Math everyday next year. Interesting. Pam :)

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