new to the group

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> I'm new to the group too. My name is Sara and I have 6 and 4 year

old

> sons and a 2 year old daughter. My 6 year old Sam hasn't formally

> been diagnosed with AS, but both his teacher and social worker at

his

> school have talked to me about getting him evaluated. I have known

> for some time that something isn't right. He just doesn't seem to

fit

> in socially with his peers and seems to get really depressed at the

> fact that he doesn't make friends easily. I guess, lucky for him

he is

> great at any sort of electronic game and that has helped brings

kids

> to our house to play. He is such a neat kid and it breaks my

heart,

> like it does all of you for your kids, that he feels like an

oddball.

> I am so thankful though that he has a really great teacher this

year,

> one who previous to teaching 1st grade, taught special ed for 14

years.

>

> I'm sure that I am going to be on here alot. Even though I had a

> feeling about it, it's still really hard.

>

[Guest guest]

Sara,

Glad to meet you

It's really hard, when your gut tells you something but you don't

know if it's right. We've struggled since Trev was small to figure

out what was going on. When he was a baby/toddler, they told me he

had " autistic tendencies " but not enough to qualify a diagnosis.

Instead, he was put into Early Intervention (which helped immensely).

That carried us through preschool (a really trying time---I think I

spent more time there than at home!) but when he started

kindergarten, I asked for a MultiFactored Evaluation (an MFE) and

scheduled an appt. with an autism unit near us for an evaluation.

Watching him with other children, I couldn't ignore my gut feelings.

At that point, I was told that he could have PDD-NOS but they were

again hesitant to put a label on him (good in some ways, not so good

when it comes to explaining to teachers and a school that he's not a

bad kid, just quirky).

I've always known, down deep, that Trevor marched to his own

drummer, that he was wired differently. It was just a matter of

finding out what exactly was going on. That's not an easy task,

sometimes! And it's continued to break my heart because I want my

son to be happy.

If you ever need to talk, feel free to email me

Nikki

>

> Hi,

> I'm new to the group too. My name is Sara and I have 6 and 4 year

old

> sons and a 2 year old daughter. My 6 year old Sam hasn't formally

> been diagnosed with AS, but both his teacher and social worker at

his

> school have talked to me about getting him evaluated. I have known

> for some time that something isn't right. He just doesn't seem to

fit

> in socially with his peers and seems to get really depressed at the

> fact that he doesn't make friends easily. I guess, lucky for him

he is

> great at any sort of electronic game and that has helped brings

kids

> to our house to play. He is such a neat kid and it breaks my

heart,

> like it does all of you for your kids, that he feels like an

oddball.

> I am so thankful though that he has a really great teacher this

year,

> one who previous to teaching 1st grade, taught special ed for 14

years.

>

> I'm sure that I am going to be on here alot. Even though I had a

> feeling about it, it's still really hard.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the warm welcome,

Nikki

> >

> > Hello everyone! I'm new to the group, just wanted to say hi and

> give a

> > quick intro.

> > I'm Nikki, 31, married and living in a small college town in

Ohio.

> I

> > have 3 boys--- (12), Trevor (10) and (9). Trev was

> finally

> > diagnosed this July with Asperger's. While it wasn't a huge

> surprise

> > (he's always been my quirky boy), it was an adjustment for us,

in

> > terms of finally being able to get the school to recognize

> > his " quirks " and work with them, etc. Plus, he's heading into

> > his 'tween years and I'm a little nervous as to how to handle

some

> of

> > the situations that arise with this stage and Asperger's.

> > At any rate, I'm looking forward to getting to know everyone and

> > learning more about all of you

> > Nikki

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My name is Margaret Romanowitch

I've just signed onto this group, after reading

Defelice's Enzyme book.

I have an 18 yo son who is disabled by chronic poor

health (leaky gut, MCS, " environmental illness " ,

asthma, chronic bronchitis, allergies, sensory issues)

and neurological issues. (I'm sure he is " on the

spectrum " somewhere, but at this point can't get a dx

because we have no " official " medical history due to

my son's inability to tolerate the treatment protocols

of physicians. (ie complete intolerance of any px or

over-the-counter medications since his anaphyllactic

reactions at 4yo to high and continuous doses of

antibiotics, asthma medications and experimental drugs

to control what looked like the symptoms of CF. (he

tested negative, postive-variant, negative and no one

knew what the heck to do with him)

I have a background as an RN, and have also spent all

his life researching and working on the issues that he

have impacted his life.

We have tried many different non-drug treatments in

the last 14 years, with varying degrees of success,

but none of them have made my son well enough to have

any resemblence of a " normal " life. (ie even being

able to attend school part-time for more than 50% of

the time seems an impossible dream at this time)

Years ago, I gave my son digestive enzymes from Enrich

for three months (all we could afford; we didn't then

have credit to buy necessities) after a particularly

difficult year when he was incapacitated with

migraines on a regular basis. The digestive enzymes

" broke the cycle " . (later on, Enrich stopped that

particular formulation and the enzymes from the health

food store didn't make any difference)

Before that, we (my 2 sons, myself and my husband-we

all have " challenges " ) were on a special restricted

diet for 7 years, to try to control some of the most

severe health problems. For my oldest son, the list

of OK foods was very small. And every time the

neighbours sprayed pesticides, he'd " lose " more foods.

All my searching kept taking me back to the research

into issues impacting the autistic spectrum

population. There seems to be a lot of commonalities

between autistic spectrum issues with those of

environmental issues and AD/HD. In particular, gluten

and dairy intolerances, and whatever is causing that

" brain fog " (my son was prone to hallucinations when

sick; as he was sick a LOT he had a lot of

hallucinations. As I child, I had the same problem so

the theory of the opiate effect of proteins passing

the brain barrier caught my eye.

's explanation of Methylation/Sulphation also

interested me. Especially as I had just discovered

that vitamin B6 and B12 tested really good (we do

muscle testing, which has proved to save us a lot of

grief) for my 2 sons and myself (I thought I couldn't

tolerate any B vitamins; certainly not in complex and

not B3)

(as an aside, my younger son used the epson salts

baths for an allergic reaction lately and was

impressed with how fast the reaction subsided.)

I'm going to try Houston's enzymes as a trial (to see

if they are tolerable) but really would like to be

able to buy the enzyme compoments separately, as we

(my older son and I in particular) seem to react to

supplements partly because of their fillers.

In 's book, she mentioned that there are sources

for the " pure " enzymes. If anyone knows where I could

buy them, I'd be grateful if they would let me know.

I'm hoping that this discussion board will help me to

learn from other people's experience as I try the

enzyme therapy.

Because my son (and some of the rest of my immediate

and extended family) have issues with some forms of

gluten (particularly wheat gluten), I'm not sure if

there is a celiac problem or not. I thought perhaps

it might be good to use the ZimePrime along with the

Peptizide, and somehow also the No Phenol. (as phenols

are a problem)

Any suggestions as to how I fit all this in? And

should Peptize be given as capsules so they dissolve

in the duodenum, are should they be given as powder.

(ie for " grazing " ) Or both?

My husband " looks like " an overmethylator; he doesn't

have the chemical sensitivities, he is ADHD with the

hyper-impulsivity. He spent years with ulcerative

colititis (calmed down to " irritable bowel " ). I hope

to use enzymes for him, not just for his food issues,

but because nothing is helping his memory, poor

judgement, impulsivity, etc and it is really affecting

our life.

BTW, one of the most promising neurodevelopmental work

that is being done for people on the spectrum is by

Judith Bluestone and the trained people in her

organization. (the HANDLE institute - www.handle.org)

She herself is autistic, but you wouldn't know it

" from the outside " Her holistic approach, especially

in helping to stengthen and calm the neurological

system, is more than impressive. Her approach is

Gentle!

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I am responding to the information on HANDLE. I have been a member

of the Enzymes and Autism group for over a year and find the

information here to be invaluable. Its a pleasure to participate

with an amazing group of parents.

I have been a HANDLE screener for over two years, working with

people with various neurodevelopmental issues. I discovered HANDLE

when my son was 3 yo (he is now 8). The HANDLE approach proved to

be such an important aspect to his healing that I went on to be

trained in the modality.

Judith Bluestone's book " The Fabric of Autism " is a unique and

insightful look into the complex and multi-layered issues of

autism. Her personal story is inspiring and offers hope to all of

us dealing with these issues.

I believe that the information shared here is vital to the recovery

of our loved ones and I also believe Judith's unique approach is

equally important. In the next couple of weeks, HANDLE and Judith

will be begin a series of radio shows at AutismOne.org. This series

of shows promises to be enlightening and I encourage you to tune in.

If anyone has questions about HANDLE, you may contact me off-line or

visit their website at www.handle.org.

best,

Suzanne

>

> Hello,

> My name is Margaret Romanowitch

> I've just signed onto this group, after reading

> Defelice's Enzyme book.

> > BTW, one of the most promising neurodevelopmental work

> that is being done for people on the spectrum is by

> Judith Bluestone and the trained people in her

> organization. (the HANDLE institute - www.handle.org)

> She herself is autistic, but you wouldn't know it

> " from the outside " Her holistic approach, especially

> in helping to stengthen and calm the neurological

> system, is more than impressive. Her approach is

> Gentle!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

If he is rigid with rules, why not make it a rule that at specific times

throughout his day he MUST go use the bathroom. Usually with our children, you

cannot leave it up to them to use their judgement, it needs to be a rule.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Why not have the teacher privately tell him there has been a rule

change?

( ) new to the group

My 9 year old son with AS/HFA is so rigid about rules at school (

really anywhere) that he will wet his pants a school because " we are

not allowed to go to the bathroom during .....) I have begged him to

just get up and go to the bathroom when he needs to go and I would take

care of the teacher later. I've been to his teachers and they agree

that he can go at anytime. I'm at my wits end. He has no idea that he

should even be embarassed. I guess that is God's way of protecting his

feelings. Any suggestions? We do a bio medical approach with

supplements and diet. And really he does well with friends but I am

afraid that if this continues the older he gets that the kids will

tease him if they don't already.

[Guest guest]

I have had similar issues. I want you to know my son is now 10 and is still

in a self contained classroom. The teacher is very supportive and we had a

group meeting letting them all know in front of my son.. Chase that he was

allowed to go any time he needed to.

Also this seems to be an issue because he doesn't recognize the clues he is

getting from his body that he has to go.

I whole heartily suggest that you get pull ups.. YES This is a serious

social concern.. And any kids who remember him as Mr PEE PEE Pants.. Will

surely throw it in his face later.

The pull ups were a godsend for myself and my son. Along with a change of

clothes ( same colored pants etc.. So no one noticed the change.)

Take care Hon

You aren't alone.. And it hasn't happened this year for my son yet.. At

school that is LOL home.. Is another matter.

-- ( ) new to the group

My 9 year old son with AS/HFA is so rigid about rules at school (

really anywhere) that he will wet his pants a school because " we are

not allowed to go to the bathroom during .....) I have begged him to

just get up and go to the bathroom when he needs to go and I would take

care of the teacher later. I've been to his teachers and they agree

that he can go at anytime. I'm at my wits end. He has no idea that he

should even be embarassed. I guess that is God's way of protecting his

feelings. Any suggestions? We do a bio medical approach with

supplements and diet. And really he does well with friends but I am

afraid that if this continues the older he gets that the kids will

tease him if they don't already.

[Guest guest]

Pam you really do have great advice LOL why didn't I think of that!

-- Re: ( ) new to the group

If he is rigid with rules, why not make it a rule that at specific times

throughout his day he MUST go use the bathroom. Usually with our children,

you

cannot leave it up to them to use their judgement, it needs to be a rule.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Why didn't I think of that!!!!! Sometimes when I'm caught up in the moment I

can't see the forest for the trees. Thank you all so much.

All the best,

Jill

" He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even youths

grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; but those who hope in the

Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will

run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. " Is. 40:29-31

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/25/2006 8:08:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

excop32@... writes:

Hi Excop32,

You need to contact your local parent information training center. Here is

the contact information: Tell them you need help navigating the special

education process and would also like information about filing formal

complaints.

Has the school done an FBA (Functional Behavior Assessment) and subsequent

Behavior Plan for your son? Pam

Jan LaBelle, Executive Director

Family Network on Disabilties of Florida, INC.

2735 Whitney Road

Clearwater, FL 33760

(813) 523-1130 (800) 825-5736

_fnd@..._ (mailto:fnd@...)

_http://www.gate.net/~fnd_ (http://www.gate.net/~fnd)

[Guest guest]

Hi Excop32,

This was in my newsletter today and thought I'd pass it on to you.

Also if you haven't visited this site before, I think it's

the " yellow pages for kids " (look at very top of page) that is good

for searching for advocacy, etc.

http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/discipl.kids.arrest.pw.htm

Sorry your family is going through this! It really is soooo obvious

the school isn't accommodating your son's needs and is causing his

behavior by not...well, by being dumb about autism! And in general

by letting the teasing/harassment go on. I think it was this group

that I recently posted a few links regarding harassment/bullying,

etc. Do a search through the archives.

Keep us updated on the outcome if you can!

single mom, 3 sons

, 17, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers

>

> Hello all, my wife and I are the proud parents of a 12 year old boy

> afflicted w/autism ASPERGER's SYNDROME, is the center of our

> life, is our joy and our world. We learned of 's

affliction

> when was 3 the date was April 1, 1999 that was the day I

> believed my world ended so I thought. You see in May 20 1999 our

[Guest guest]

I don't have any great advice to give but I just want to say it sounds like you

are doing such a great job in protecting your son and being actively involved.

<excop32@...> wrote: Hello all, my wife and I are the

proud parents of a 12 year old boy

afflicted w/autism ASPERGER's SYNDROME, is the center of our

life, is our joy and our world. We learned of 's affliction

when was 3 the date was April 1, 1999 that was the day I

believed my world ended so I thought. You see in May 20 1999 our 5th

wedding anniversary my mother was diagnosed w/teminal lung cancer and

passed on Sept 27 1999, so the rest of my year existed in a bottle

and fog. I stopped drinking on December 24 of that year when

came to me and said " Daddy you are the best DADDY on the world "

something I will never forget. Being a former police officer I could

not understand why was having difficulty w/learning and

understanding the simpilest things then we recieved that diagnosis.

My wife and I knew loved the water so we moved to Florida and

let him swim his heart out, he was in a great school up until he

started middle school, he developed a much more serious problem as

the children in his ESE class began to ridicule harrass and cause him

such pain that he was lashing out at them as well as the teacher so

much so that he was suspended. Now at his IEP meeting the SRO Student

Resource Officer informed me that in the event of an outburst he

would arrested, cuff and transprot to a juvenile detention

center. I advised this SRO that in no uncertain terms would that

occur if HE did not want to see himself in the in ER or morgue,now in

his IEP a note from his DR clearly states that none of this is to

occur and if an outbursy does occur or if does get anxious he

shall call Dad or Mom and we will come get him no time out rooms

nothing like that, well on September 28 2006 the proverbial hit the

fan and had his fill w/the taunting ridicule and harassment and

he did suffer an outburst and the " professional educator " tried to

physically out in a time out room when he pulled away, she tried

to grab him again and a natural reaction was to swing at the hand, he

did strike her, she lead him to the office and filed a complaint

against indicating she was in fear of her safety. Now when I see

this woman I see an Amazon being from Illinois I have never heard of

a complaint being filed against an individual in a school setting

where the " educators " are aware of the existing possibility of this

type of response/reaction. The lack of juvenile laws in FL amaze me

and the lack of education on the part of the police and " educators "

outright floors me.

What I hope to find out is that do any of you parents of these angles

know of an advocate in the Sarasota/Tampa area? I feel this school

system needs a lesson for I was speaking to the assistant principal

this day and asked if she was aware of 's IEP, her response was I

don't need to know about his IEP, well according to the IDEA she

does, then according to a counselor at the school I was advised the

school was not ready for , BUT, according to meetings we had in

March 2005, May 2006 and again August 2006 the school was ready.

I feel the school board as well as the school failed and we need

to look further into some type of disciplinary actions against the

school system, since they can discipline my son and not follow

federal law, their actions indicate arrogance, pompousity and an

attitude that needs adjusting, they obvioulsy need a lesson in due

process the IDEA.

So my friends, please, forward any advise, comments, anything you

might feel advantageous in my attempt to seek justice for my son.

God bless,

Excop32

[Guest guest]

An IEP should be based on needs and not on dx. So you should be getting her

help at the school regardless of any dx she has or doesn't have.

Roxanna

( ) New to the group

I am a mother of two beautiful, smart children, and girl and a boy.

They both have A.D.H.D. and the school system (and myself also) thinks

that my daughter has many of the symptoms of Asperger's. I have had

her tested at a clinic and they say that she does not meet " their "

cryteria for asperger's. (It seemed to me that they were only looking

for childern with moderate autisum for the " study and test " factor.

I'm getting really frustrated. I don't want my daughter " labeled " with

Asperger's, but I can't get any help for her with out the " label " .

Has anyone else had this problem, and if so how did you deal with it.

Vicky

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[Guest guest]

Welcome . This is a nice group. My Grandson is 14 dx'd with

Asperger/Bipolar. I just take it as it comes....one day at a time. Take

care,Betty

widoherty6 <widoherty6@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am and I have a 12 year old son that was just diagnoised with

Aspergers with ADHD. I also have 3 daughters, 14, 10, 3. My husband

is a special education teacher, so while the IEP stuff is not new to

us, everything else is. It is a relief to know what is going on with

but at the same time it is so frustrating to know that it isn't

something he will outgrow. He is having a really hard time right now,

I don't know if it is because of the holidays and the added noise and

stuff at school or what. I just feel so helpless sometimes as how to

help him. I have my stack of Aspergers book on my bedside table and am

slowly working my way through them. Some days just seems so

overwhelming especially when you add our hormonal daughters to the

mix. So any advice on how you cope day to day and keep going would be

great.

---------------------------------

Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

:

Remember that the Aspergers is a " part " of your son not all of him. The

goal of your family should be to integrate him into your family, not the family

into him. This is a typical common mistake that families make. They

accomodate and modify the person on the spectrum so much that they must walk on

eggshells around him in order to not deal with the issues. However this does

the

person on the spectrum no good since society and any place outside of

his/her home and family will not let him/her have his way the entire time but

the

opposite is true that he must accomodate to society. This means that you and

your family must equip your son with the essential tools to be able to

intergrate himself into your family and society to the best of his ability.

Connie Ajay

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list. How's his attention span at home, when he's doing

something he likes? Give us some ideas as to why you're wondering if he has

behavioral problems...Is he hitting, scratching, kicking, biting, pulling hair

himself or others, or throwing things? Or is he wandering away from circle

time, disrupting class, or acting bored, etc. Is he particularly active or loud

when they want everybody quiet and still? What the classroom like? Noisy, too

much stimulation, fluorescent lighting? Do the teachers/aides wear

perfume/cologne?

What's his diet like? Does he get artificial colors and flavors, junk food,

lots of sugar or artificial sweeteners? Is he on any supplements?

S S

--- On Sun 12/31, jenniferbennettmitchell < jenniferbennettmitchell@...

<p>just wanted to introduce myself - i have 5 year old son with PDD

and <br>

am just looking for advice on anything and everything about <br>

determining if my child has an attention or behavioral problem. his <br>

teachers are concerned that his 3-5 second attention span is very <br>

inconsistent - sometimes more like 10 minutes but they don't know <br>

why. we do know that earlier in the morning is better - but who <br>

isn't. HELP!!<br>

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

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[Guest guest]

Thank you,

He is in a special needs class @ private school (kindergarten). His

behavior in school is not an issue. His behavior at home is very

different from the classroom. Never acts up in class, just with me

and sometimes his father, but worse with me (the mom). His teacher

posed the question " is he ADHD or is it behavioral " . We believe it

is behavioral and he chooses when not to listen, but we can not be

sure. Even though he is making progress in school the pace is

slow. The teacher has to spend much of the time getting him focused

and back on task. He needs more one on one than other kids.

We chelated him using oral DMSA from Aug. 2005-May 2006. He has not

been on any supplements, other than multi-vitamins, since May. We

were using a contemporary medicine doctor and followed her

protocol. He is not on any special diet. We tried gf/cf diet but

did not see any results. He eats as well as a typical 5 year old.

We just started using candex this week to get his yeast under

control.

>

>

> Welcome to the list. How's his attention span at home, when he's

doing something he likes? Give us some ideas as to why you're

wondering if he has behavioral problems...Is he hitting, scratching,

kicking, biting, pulling hair himself or others, or throwing

things? Or is he wandering away from circle time, disrupting class,

or acting bored, etc. Is he particularly active or loud when they

want everybody quiet and still? What the classroom like? Noisy,

too much stimulation, fluorescent lighting? Do the teachers/aides

wear perfume/cologne?

>

> What's his diet like? Does he get artificial colors and flavors,

junk food, lots of sugar or artificial sweeteners? Is he on any

supplements?

> S S

>

>

>

> --- On Sun 12/31, jenniferbennettmitchell <

jenniferbennettmitchell@...

> <p>just wanted to introduce myself - i have 5 year old

son with PDD and <br>

> am just looking for advice on anything and everything about <br>

> determining if my child has an attention or behavioral problem.

his <br>

> teachers are concerned that his 3-5 second attention span is very

<br>

> inconsistent - sometimes more like 10 minutes but they don't know

<br>

> why. we do know that earlier in the morning is better - but who

<br>

> isn't. HELP!!<br>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> The most personalized portal on the Web!

>

[Guest guest]

>

> just wanted to introduce myself - i have 5 year old son with PDD and

> am just looking for advice on anything and everything about

> determining if my child has an attention or behavioral problem. his

> teachers are concerned that his 3-5 second attention span is very

> inconsistent - sometimes more like 10 minutes but they don't know

> why. we do know that earlier in the morning is better - but who

> isn't. HELP!!

>

Suggestion: get a Doctor's Data " hair elements " test. Wee what it says.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Comments interspersed.

S S

Thank you,<br>

<br>

He is in a special needs class @ private school (kindergarten)<wbr>. His <br>

behavior in school is not an issue. His behavior at home is very <br>

different from the classroom.

*Was this the case before he started school?

Never acts up in class, just with me <br>

and sometimes his father, but worse with me (the mom).

*Both at home and in the community? Do you wear perfume or use other scented

products? Is there a smoker in the home (even if they only smoke outside)? Is

the acting up at specific times, ie. mealtimes, transition times, when you're on

the phone, etc? Are there siblings?

His teacher <br>

posed the question " is he ADHD or is it behavioral " . We believe it <br>

is behavioral and he chooses when not to listen, but we can not be <br>

sure. Even though he is making progress in school the pace is <br>

slow. The teacher has to spend much of the time getting him focused <br>

and back on task. He needs more one on one than other kids. <br>

<br>

We chelated him using oral DMSA from Aug. 2005-May 2006.

*Did you see improvements? Did you do any hair tests? What did they show?

FWIW, DMSA chelates mercury (from the body) and lead (lead takes a very long

time to chelate). ALA chelates mercury (from the body and brain) and arsenic.

If you're dealing with mercury he stills has some in his brain.

He has not <br>

been on any supplements, other than multi-vitamins, since May. We <br>

were using a contemporary medicine doctor and followed her <br>

protocol.

*Yikes! :-( Consider AC protocol. Please read the FAQs of this list for

details.

He is not on any special diet. We tried gf/cf diet but <br>

did not see any results. He eats as well as a typical 5 year old. <br>

We just started using candex this week to get his yeast under <br>

control. <br>

<br>

<br>

><br>

> <br>

> Welcome to the list. How's his attention span at home, when he's <br>

doing something he likes? Give us some ideas as to why you're <br>

wondering if he has behavioral problems...Is he hitting, scratching, <br>

kicking, biting, pulling hair himself or others, or throwing <br>

things? Or is he wandering away from circle time, disrupting class, <br>

or acting bored, etc. Is he particularly active or loud when they <br>

want everybody quiet and still? What the classroom like? Noisy, <br>

too much stimulation, fluorescent lighting? Do the teachers/aides <br>

wear perfume/cologne?<br>

> <br>

> What's his diet like? Does he get artificial colors and flavors, <br>

junk food, lots of sugar or artificial sweeteners? Is he on any <br>

supplements? <br>

> S S<br>

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We believe it is behavioral and he chooses when not to listen, but we can not

be sure.

****Since his behavior is better in school, try going to school and observing,

sitting " outside " the classroom and just listening is best for this. I do this

before I ever enter a classroom when I consult on a child's case to get a feel

for the classroom, amazing what you can learn, sometimes I even leave at this

point because I have heard all I need to know. Teachers cannot spank or take

away the video games so the really good ones have developed a lot of effective

techniques for dealing with kids.

Mostly moms " talk " too much and too long. Teachers normally use short, even

toned, well-understood sentences that cannot be misunderstood. Moms also

(sometimes) use either a condescending tone (because we are exasperated at

having said the same thing a million times) or raise their voice, all of these

things can cause a child to tune out to what is being said. Not surprising as

even we non ADD adults would learn to tune out with this approach. Sometimes

just placing a tape recorder in your home and listening to how we talk to kids

is very illuminating.

A way to test to see if he is just not listening is to give a little time

after a request and when you see the child is distracted or not complying try

asking in a very nonthreatening way what it was you asked him to do. A true ADD

child will often have a look of bewilderment when you ask, a child who is simply

not complying will often just go do what you have asked or answer with the

correct request that was given.

This is still corrective, without any harsh consequences when they realize you

are just going to redirect and it doesn't get them out of doing something.

Expect compliance, attitude is everything. Our little one reacts totally

differently to her mom, to me and to her teacher. The trick is to learn from

anyone who has anything that works and not take it personally.

Also, suggesting the possibility he may need " more chelation " . Sounds as if he

is still ADD if both you and the teacher are spending a larger than normal

portion of time getting him focused. It does sometimes appear as if an ADD kid

is just " not listening " but you have to find out if the not listening is

purposeful or he just can't. Auditory processing problems are just as

frustrating, maybe more so for those people/kids who have them, they want to

comply, but can't, the brain fog is just too severe.****

Even though he is making progress in school the pace is

slow. The teacher has to spend much of the time getting him focused

and back on task. He needs more one on one than other kids.

We chelated him using oral DMSA from Aug. 2005-May 2006. He has not

been on any supplements, other than multi-vitamins, since May. We

were using a contemporary medicine doctor and followed her

protocol. He is not on any special diet. We tried gf/cf diet but

did not see any results. He eats as well as a typical 5 year old.

We just started using candex this week to get his yeast under

control.

>

>

> Welcome to the list. How's his attention span at home, when he's

doing something he likes? Give us some ideas as to why you're

wondering if he has behavioral problems...Is he hitting, scratching,

kicking, biting, pulling hair himself or others, or throwing

things? Or is he wandering away from circle time, disrupting class,

or acting bored, etc. Is he particularly active or loud when they

want everybody quiet and still? What the classroom like? Noisy,

too much stimulation, fluorescent lighting? Do the teachers/aides

wear perfume/cologne?

>

> What's his diet like? Does he get artificial colors and flavors,

junk food, lots of sugar or artificial sweeteners? Is he on any

supplements?

> S S

>

>

>

> --- On Sun 12/31, jenniferbennettmitchell <

jenniferbennettmitchell@...

> <p>just wanted to introduce myself - i have 5 year old

son with PDD and <br>

> am just looking for advice on anything and everything about <br>

> determining if my child has an attention or behavioral problem.

his <br>

> teachers are concerned that his 3-5 second attention span is very

<br>

> inconsistent - sometimes more like 10 minutes but they don't know

<br>

> why. we do know that earlier in the morning is better - but who

<br>

> isn't. HELP!!<br>

>

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Caveat: You might check in with the principal of the school before you do this

or they'll think you're spying on them and they'll freak out and get defensive.

Just calmly explain you have noticed his behavior is better in school and you

want to find out what great techniques the teacher is using and to learn from

her.

You do have the right to walk into the school at anytime of the day and observe

but most schools request that you make your presence known. Hopefully they won't

warn the teacher ahead of time and you will have the opportunity to find out

what you need to know.

Re: [ ] Re: new to the group

We believe it is behavioral and he chooses when not to listen, but we can not

be sure.

****Since his behavior is better in school, try going to school and observing,

sitting " outside " the classroom and just listening is best for this. I do this

before I ever enter a classroom when I consult on a child's case to get a feel

for the classroom, amazing what you can learn, sometimes I even leave at this

point because I have heard all I need to know. Teachers cannot spank or take

away the video games so the really good ones have developed a lot of effective

techniques for dealing with kids.

Mostly moms " talk " too much and too long. Teachers normally use short, even

toned, well-understood sentences that cannot be misunderstood. Moms also

(sometimes) use either a condescending tone (because we are exasperated at

having said the same thing a million times) or raise their voice, all of these

things can cause a child to tune out to what is being said. Not surprising as

even we non ADD adults would learn to tune out with this approach. Sometimes

just placing a tape recorder in your home and listening to how we talk to kids

is very illuminating.

A way to test to see if he is just not listening is to give a little time

after a request and when you see the child is distracted or not complying try

asking in a very nonthreatening way what it was you asked him to do. A true ADD

child will often have a look of bewilderment when you ask, a child who is simply

not complying will often just go do what you have asked or answer with the

correct request that was given.

This is still corrective, without any harsh consequences when they realize you

are just going to redirect and it doesn't get them out of doing something.

Expect compliance, attitude is everything. Our little one reacts totally

differently to her mom, to me and to her teacher. The trick is to learn from

anyone who has anything that works and not take it personally.

Also, suggesting the possibility he may need " more chelation " . Sounds as if he

is still ADD if both you and the teacher are spending a larger than normal

portion of time getting him focused. It does sometimes appear as if an ADD kid

is just " not listening " but you have to find out if the not listening is

purposeful or he just can't. Auditory processing problems are just as

frustrating, maybe more so for those people/kids who have them, they want to

comply, but can't, the brain fog is just too severe.****

Even though he is making progress in school the pace is

slow. The teacher has to spend much of the time getting him focused

and back on task. He needs more one on one than other kids.

We chelated him using oral DMSA from Aug. 2005-May 2006. He has not

been on any supplements, other than multi-vitamins, since May. We

were using a contemporary medicine doctor and followed her

protocol. He is not on any special diet. We tried gf/cf diet but

did not see any results. He eats as well as a typical 5 year old.

We just started using candex this week to get his yeast under

control.

>

>

> Welcome to the list. How's his attention span at home, when he's

doing something he likes? Give us some ideas as to why you're

wondering if he has behavioral problems...Is he hitting, scratching,

kicking, biting, pulling hair himself or others, or throwing

things? Or is he wandering away from circle time, disrupting class,

or acting bored, etc. Is he particularly active or loud when they

want everybody quiet and still? What the classroom like? Noisy,

too much stimulation, fluorescent lighting? Do the teachers/aides

wear perfume/cologne?

>

> What's his diet like? Does he get artificial colors and flavors,

junk food, lots of sugar or artificial sweeteners? Is he on any

supplements?

> S S

>

>

>

> --- On Sun 12/31, jenniferbennettmitchell <

jenniferbennettmitchell@...

> <p>just wanted to introduce myself - i have 5 year old

son with PDD and <br>

> am just looking for advice on anything and everything about <br>

> determining if my child has an attention or behavioral problem.

his <br>

> teachers are concerned that his 3-5 second attention span is very

<br>

> inconsistent - sometimes more like 10 minutes but they don't know

<br>

> why. we do know that earlier in the morning is better - but who

<br>

> isn't. HELP!!<br>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

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Sorry to keep adding, but this was an important point for me. A couple of times

I did tape record myself with interactions with my dd and when I asked myself if

I would want to listen to the person I heard on the tape the answer was a

resounding " no " .

I found it helpful to use the same tone and consideration that I would use with

any friend. I know our children are not our friends but they deserve as much

respect as our friends do. I found never correcting in front of anyone else to

preserve her ego dignity as helpful as a respectful tone. And a CALM attitude

is the most important.

Children often feel powerless so they do get a little " kick " out of seeing an

adult get all rattled. Once I really understood this I never raised my voice

again. But getting rattled doesn't earn you any respect and makes you appear as

if you don't know what you are doing. Often we don't know what we are doing but

it's important always to give the impression that we really do know what is

needed.

Although this can be overdone, presenting a child with a couple of choices is a

good technique even if it's only a choice between going to their room under

their own power when small or going there after a couple of pats on their

derriere as smart kids will often decide not making a choice is a good way to

send an adult over the edge. They have to get that not making a choice IS

actually making one and that is not going to work.

Btw, I insist on this same tone of respect when a child speaks to me but feel

totally justified as I have set the example. I refuse to even respond to a

child who speaks to me disrectfully, this is highly effective as kids intensely

dislike being ignored.

This is worth all the effort as I noticed when my dd was a teenager and all my

friends were complaining about how their kids never listened to anything they

said, my dd did and her adolescence was calm, peaceful and nonturbulent.

Re: [ ] Re: new to the group

We believe it is behavioral and he chooses when not to listen, but we can not

be sure.

****Since his behavior is better in school, try going to school and observing,

sitting " outside " the classroom and just listening is best for this. I do this

before I ever enter a classroom when I consult on a child's case to get a feel

for the classroom, amazing what you can learn, sometimes I even leave at this

point because I have heard all I need to know. Teachers cannot spank or take

away the video games so the really good ones have developed a lot of effective

techniques for dealing with kids.

Mostly moms " talk " too much and too long. Teachers normally use short, even

toned, well-understood sentences that cannot be misunderstood. Moms also

(sometimes) use either a condescending tone (because we are exasperated at

having said the same thing a million times) or raise their voice, all of these

things can cause a child to tune out to what is being said. Not surprising as

even we non ADD adults would learn to tune out with this approach. Sometimes

just placing a tape recorder in your home and listening to how we talk to kids

is very illuminating.

A way to test to see if he is just not listening is to give a little time

after a request and when you see the child is distracted or not complying try

asking in a very nonthreatening way what it was you asked him to do. A true ADD

child will often have a look of bewilderment when you ask, a child who is simply

not complying will often just go do what you have asked or answer with the

correct request that was given.

This is still corrective, without any harsh consequences when they realize you

are just going to redirect and it doesn't get them out of doing something.

Expect compliance, attitude is everything. Our little one reacts totally

differently to her mom, to me and to her teacher. The trick is to learn from

anyone who has anything that works and not take it personally.

Also, suggesting the possibility he may need " more chelation " . Sounds as if he

is still ADD if both you and the teacher are spending a larger than normal

portion of time getting him focused. It does sometimes appear as if an ADD kid

is just " not listening " but you have to find out if the not listening is

purposeful or he just can't. Auditory processing problems are just as

frustrating, maybe more so for those people/kids who have them, they want to

comply, but can't, the brain fog is just too severe.****

Even though he is making progress in school the pace is

slow. The teacher has to spend much of the time getting him focused

and back on task. He needs more one on one than other kids.

We chelated him using oral DMSA from Aug. 2005-May 2006. He has not

been on any supplements, other than multi-vitamins, since May. We

were using a contemporary medicine doctor and followed her

protocol. He is not on any special diet. We tried gf/cf diet but

did not see any results. He eats as well as a typical 5 year old.

We just started using candex this week to get his yeast under

control.

>

>

> Welcome to the list. How's his attention span at home, when he's

doing something he likes? Give us some ideas as to why you're

wondering if he has behavioral problems...Is he hitting, scratching,

kicking, biting, pulling hair himself or others, or throwing

things? Or is he wandering away from circle time, disrupting class,

or acting bored, etc. Is he particularly active or loud when they

want everybody quiet and still? What the classroom like? Noisy,

too much stimulation, fluorescent lighting? Do the teachers/aides

wear perfume/cologne?

>

> What's his diet like? Does he get artificial colors and flavors,

junk food, lots of sugar or artificial sweeteners? Is he on any

supplements?

> S S

>

>

>

> --- On Sun 12/31, jenniferbennettmitchell <

jenniferbennettmitchell@...

> <p>just wanted to introduce myself - i have 5 year old

son with PDD and <br>

> am just looking for advice on anything and everything about <br>

> determining if my child has an attention or behavioral problem.

his <br>

> teachers are concerned that his 3-5 second attention span is very

<br>

> inconsistent - sometimes more like 10 minutes but they don't know

<br>

> why. we do know that earlier in the morning is better - but who

<br>

> isn't. HELP!!<br>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> The most personalized portal on the Web!

>

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There's an approach calle 1-2-3 Magic. Our library system has the tape, see if

yours does. I have a client family using the approach with 5- and 6-year-olds

with special needs.

S S

We believe it is behavioral and he chooses when not to listen, but we can not be

sure.<br>

<br>

****Since his behavior is better in school, try going to school and observing,

sitting " outside " the classroom and just listening is best for this. I do this

before I ever enter a classroom when I consult on a child's case to get a feel

for the classroom, amazing what you can learn, sometimes I even leave at this

point because I have heard all I need to know. Teachers cannot spank or take

away the video games so the really good ones have developed a lot of effective

techniques for dealing with kids. <br>

<br>

Mostly moms " talk " too much and too long. Teachers normally use short, even

toned, well-understood sentences that cannot be misunderstood. Moms also

(sometimes) use either a condescending tone (because we are exasperated at

having said the same thing a million times) or raise their voice, all of these

things can cause a child to tune out to what is being said. Not surprising as

even we non ADD adults would learn to tune out with this approach. Sometimes

just placing a tape recorder in your home and listening to how we talk to kids

is very illuminating.<br>

<br>

A way to test to see if he is just not listening is to give a little time after

a request and when you see the child is distracted or not complying try asking

in a very nonthreatening way what it was you asked him to do. A true ADD child

will often have a look of bewilderment when you ask, a child who is simply not

complying will often just go do what you have asked or answer with the correct

request that was given.<br>

<br>

This is still corrective, without any harsh consequences when they realize you

are just going to redirect and it doesn't get them out of doing something.

Expect compliance, attitude is everything. Our little one reacts totally

differently to her mom, to me and to her teacher. The trick is to learn from

anyone who has anything that works and not take it personally.<br>

<br>

Also, suggesting the possibility he may need " more chelation " . Sounds as if he

is still ADD if both you and the teacher are spending a larger than normal

portion of time getting him focused. It does sometimes appear as if an ADD kid

is just " not listening " but you have to find out if the not listening is

purposeful or he just can't. Auditory processing problems are just as

frustrating, maybe more so for those people/kids who have them, they want to

comply, but can't, the brain fog is just too severe.****<br>

<br>

<br>

<br>

Even though he is making progress in school the pace is <br>

slow. The teacher has to spend much of the time getting him focused <br>

and back on task. He needs more one on one than other kids. <br>

<br>

We chelated him using oral DMSA from Aug. 2005-May 2006. He has not <br>

been on any supplements, other than multi-vitamins, since May. We <br>

were using a contemporary medicine doctor and followed her <br>

protocol. He is not on any special diet. We tried gf/cf diet but <br>

did not see any results. He eats as well as a typical 5 year old. <br>

We just started using candex this week to get his yeast under <br>

control. <br>

<br>

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Congratulations on the newest additions in your family & welcome here. I would

tell him over & over again about the children that you will soon add to the

family & what fun they will have teaching them English & things that American

kids like to do etc.. Make him a part of the celebration.

Take care,Betty

<angnjim@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I just joined the group and am looking forward to learning from the

wisdom of many of you.

Our 6 year old son was just dx'd with Aspergers and it was funny

because the doctor tried to " break it to us really gently " and me

and my husbands reaction was more of a " ya, duh! " reaction. We

had known for years something was not right and it kept getting

dismissed by doctor's that didn't have to live with him.

He's a very sweet and obedient son now but from 2-4 I didn't know if

I would every be close to him because he was REALLY tough. He's

mellowed out a lot but as I homeschool him I certainly see that he

has many challenges ahead of him.

Any advice on the best therapies, diets, etc. that you have had a

good experience with your child?

Also, He has two bio brothers ages 3 and 8 but through adoption he

is about to suddenly have 3 new siblings ages 11, 9, and 2. They

are from Haiti so will have trouble communicating since they speak

Creole. Any suggestions on how to prepare him for this big

transition?

Joyfully,

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