RE: Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

[Guest guest]

My insurance company recenty stopped paying for PROMPT therapy because it is

anecdotal, not clinically proven. That may be part of what is going on.

Maybe the states won't pay on that type of therapy so they don't want it in

there.

B.

[ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

district.

Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

[Guest guest]

- that is avery interesting point regarding the insurances!

Prompt is not clinically proven? is anything a standard for & nbsp;apraxia & nbsp;we

are always in the gray zone.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre

On Mar 10, 2011 4:22 PM, S Buckwalter & lt;sbuckwalter@... & gt;

wrote:

My insurance company recenty stopped paying for PROMPT therapy because it is

anecdotal, not clinically proven. That may be part of what is going on.

Maybe the states won't pay on that type of therapy so they don't want it in

there.

B.

[ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

district.

Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

[Guest guest]

Hello

As far as writing PROMPT therapy in an IEP? In an IEP the treatment modality is

not written in, Just the goal that is being worked on. So you can spell out

why prompt is being used but you can't state in what way it will be

accomplished. Does that make sense?

Another example might be; you want your child to do X reading program. The team

will not write out the name of the program but will write goals that would

compliment this program.

As far as insurance goes I believe it falls under the same fuzzy line.

On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:48 PM, " Ivy " <ivygreene88@...> wrote:

> - that is avery interesting point regarding the insurances!

>

> Prompt is not clinically proven? is anything a standard

for & nbsp;apraxia & nbsp;we are always in the gray zone.

>

> -- Sent from my Palm Pre

> On Mar 10, 2011 4:22 PM, S Buckwalter & lt;sbuckwalter@... & gt;

wrote:

>

> My insurance company recenty stopped paying for PROMPT therapy because it is

>

> anecdotal, not clinically proven. That may be part of what is going on.

>

> Maybe the states won't pay on that type of therapy so they don't want it in

>

> there.

>

> B.

>

> [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

>

> Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

>

> DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

>

> be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

>

> their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

>

> Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

>

> My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

>

> write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

>

> written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

>

> we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

>

> I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

>

> tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

>

> I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

>

> since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

>

> yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

>

> district.

>

> Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay..i do understand that..and the district will be using various methods to

reach their goals..and should these METHODS to reach those goals not be written

in? They can write, not limited to etc etc.

I would LOVE to know how many here actually have wording of BECKMAN, PROMPT and

other therapy treatments in the IEP. I want to make sure my district is not

pulling one over me. i talked with several professionals that we work with and

they are telling me not to sign the IEP without the methods included in it.

Thanks!

On Mar 10, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Alyssa <aw_nagy@...> wrote:

> Hello

> As far as writing PROMPT therapy in an IEP? In an IEP the treatment modality

is not written in, Just the goal that is being worked on. So you can spell out

why prompt is being used but you can't state in what way it will be

accomplished. Does that make sense?

> Another example might be; you want your child to do X reading program. The

team will not write out the name of the program but will write goals that would

compliment this program.

>

> As far as insurance goes I believe it falls under the same fuzzy line.

>

> On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:48 PM, " Ivy " <ivygreene88@...> wrote:

>

> > - that is avery interesting point regarding the insurances!

> >

> > Prompt is not clinically proven? is anything a standard

for & nbsp;apraxia & nbsp;we are always in the gray zone.

> >

> > -- Sent from my Palm Pre

> > On Mar 10, 2011 4:22 PM, S Buckwalter & lt;sbuckwalter@... & gt;

wrote:

> >

> > My insurance company recenty stopped paying for PROMPT therapy because it is

> >

> > anecdotal, not clinically proven. That may be part of what is going on.

> >

> > Maybe the states won't pay on that type of therapy so they don't want it in

> >

> > there.

> >

> > B.

> >

> > [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

> >

> > Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

> >

> > DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

> >

> > be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

> >

> > their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

> >

> > Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

> >

> > My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

> >

> > write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

> >

> > written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

> >

> > we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

> >

> > I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

> >

> > tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

> >

> > I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

> >

> > since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

> >

> > yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

> >

> > district.

> >

> > Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My understanding, according to one of my daughter's therapists, is that this is

the way the wind is blowing. It relates somewhat to the healthcare bill that was

passed. The word on the [medical] street is that although it will cover more

people, it will cover fewer things. One group of things being eliminated are

those that are not backed up with clinical studies. Once we took PROMPT out of

the therapy requirements, they began to pay again.

[ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

district.

Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

[Guest guest]

Does any child with verbal apraxia have anything sorta of like this wording in

the IEP--

" methods being used and not limited to for therapy are beckman, PROMPT etc etc "

My understanding now is they dont want to be " held " to anything specific. My

district LOVES to use the word 'eclectic " therapies used in the IEPs.

Yet, THAT word 'eclectic' DOES not guarantee he will get oral motor, PROMPT nor

anything appropriate...and with therapists changing a lot..may end up with plain

articulation or other therapy he does not need.

Our therapists are willing to go to the next IEP meeting. That will not help get

the wording in, BUT they want to make sure he gets the right type of goals in

there.

Any other thoughts, suggestions...thanks!!!

Ivy

On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:03 PM, " S Buckwalter " <sbuckwalter@...>

wrote:

> My understanding, according to one of my daughter's therapists, is that this

is the way the wind is blowing. It relates somewhat to the healthcare bill that

was passed. The word on the [medical] street is that although it will cover more

people, it will cover fewer things. One group of things being eliminated are

those that are not backed up with clinical studies. Once we took PROMPT out of

the therapy requirements, they began to pay again.

>

>

>

> [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

>

> Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

>

> DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

>

> be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

>

> their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

>

> Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

>

> My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

>

> write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

>

> written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

>

> we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

>

> I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

>

> tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

>

> I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

>

> since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

>

> yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

>

> district.

>

> Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

>

>

[Guest guest]

In our IEP we keep using total communication then with all types we want used.

That's how ours is worded.

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On Mar 11, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Ivy <ivygreene88@...> wrote:

> Does any child with verbal apraxia have anything sorta of like this wording in

the IEP--

> " methods being used and not limited to for therapy are beckman, PROMPT etc

etc "

>

> My understanding now is they dont want to be " held " to anything specific. My

district LOVES to use the word 'eclectic " therapies used in the IEPs.

> Yet, THAT word 'eclectic' DOES not guarantee he will get oral motor, PROMPT

nor anything appropriate...and with therapists changing a lot..may end up with

plain articulation or other therapy he does not need.

> Our therapists are willing to go to the next IEP meeting. That will not help

get the wording in, BUT they want to make sure he gets the right type of goals

in there.

>

> Any other thoughts, suggestions...thanks!!!

>

> Ivy

>

> On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:03 PM, " S Buckwalter " <sbuckwalter@...>

wrote:

>

> > My understanding, according to one of my daughter's therapists, is that this

is the way the wind is blowing. It relates somewhat to the healthcare bill that

was passed. The word on the [medical] street is that although it will cover more

people, it will cover fewer things. One group of things being eliminated are

those that are not backed up with clinical studies. Once we took PROMPT out of

the therapy requirements, they began to pay again.

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

> >

> > Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

> >

> > DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

> >

> > be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

> >

> > their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

> >

> > Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

> >

> > My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

> >

> > write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

> >

> > written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

> >

> > we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

> >

> > I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

> >

> > tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

> >

> > I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

> >

> > since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

> >

> > yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

> >

> > district.

> >

> > Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

PROMPT= motor/kinesthetic cueing system

Usually schools will allow M/K Cueing System on the IEP under Supplemental

Aids.

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:33 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

Does any child with verbal apraxia have anything sorta of like this wording

in the IEP--

" methods being used and not limited to for therapy are beckman, PROMPT etc

etc "

My understanding now is they dont want to be " held " to anything specific. My

district LOVES to use the word 'eclectic " therapies used in the IEPs.

Yet, THAT word 'eclectic' DOES not guarantee he will get oral motor, PROMPT

nor anything appropriate...and with therapists changing a lot..may end up

with plain articulation or other therapy he does not need.

Our therapists are willing to go to the next IEP meeting. That will not help

get the wording in, BUT they want to make sure he gets the right type of

goals in there.

Any other thoughts, suggestions...thanks!!!

Ivy

On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:03 PM, " S Buckwalter " <sbuckwalter@...

<mailto:sbuckwalter%40abakersdozen.info> > wrote:

> My understanding, according to one of my daughter's therapists, is that

this is the way the wind is blowing. It relates somewhat to the healthcare

bill that was passed. The word on the [medical] street is that although it

will cover more people, it will cover fewer things. One group of things

being eliminated are those that are not backed up with clinical studies.

Once we took PROMPT out of the therapy requirements, they began to pay

again.

>

>

>

> [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

>

> Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

>

> DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

>

> be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

>

> their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

>

> Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

>

> My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

>

> write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

>

> written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so

if

>

> we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

>

> I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

>

> tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

>

> I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

>

> since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

>

> yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in

my

>

> district.

>

> Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

[Guest guest]

Before my son started the preschool program in our school we met a mom at our

son's private therapy office who offered to help us with our son's iep. Her son

is a year older than mine and she was really organized and did get individual

therapy written into my son's iep even though I had told her they said they

didn't offer that. My husband and I were shocked. We offered to pay her for

her time and she refused. My son is in kindergarten in a mainstream class doing

better than we ever dreamed today and I am so thankful to her, our son's

therapists, fish oils and now NV. I would not give up just because your district

is tough and relentless as I thought ours was too. Maybe there is a parent from

your town that can help you too? Kate

>

> Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

> DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to be

written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru their

trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

>

> Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

>

> My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT write

PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is written in

there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if we change

districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

>

> I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is tough

and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

> I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5 yr,

and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

district.

>

> Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

>

[Guest guest]

Alyssa- i wanted to thank you for your wonderful explanation.

Ivy

> >

> > My insurance company recenty stopped paying for PROMPT therapy because it is

> >

> > anecdotal, not clinically proven. That may be part of what is going on.

> >

> > Maybe the states won't pay on that type of therapy so they don't want it in

> >

> > there.

> >

> > B.

> >

> > [ ] Do you all have 'PROMPT' in IEP?

> >

> > Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

> >

> > DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to

> >

> > be written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru

> >

> > their trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

> >

> > Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

> >

> > My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

> >

> > write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is

> >

> > written in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if

> >

> > we change districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

> >

> > I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is

> >

> > tough and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

> >

> > I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

> >

> > since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5

> >

> > yr, and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

> >

> > district.

> >

> > Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I would like to know if anyone has been successful with listing " prompt

certified " SLP on their IEP. Thank you.

> >

> > Of course if your child is getting PROMPT therapy and has an IEP....

> > DID you have the wording of PROMPT therapy written in? I asked for it to be

written in and tney refuse...even though my son will get PROMPT thru their

trained therapists and they think it is appropriate.

> >

> > Here we go again....my not so lovely district...

> >

> > My son was evaluated for his IEP and the team already said they will NOT

write PROMPT therapy on the IEP. I was told not to sign it unless it is written

in there 'PROMPT therapy will be recommened and carried out'...so if we change

districts/move they will follow exactly what is in the IEP.

> >

> > I dont think i can do the advocate or lawyer thing cuz my district is tough

and relentless, it would be wasteful money.

> > I am thinking of just bagging the IEP totally and not using the district,

since the class is totally an enclosed classroom for my verbal apraxic 3.5 yr,

and i wanted inclusive class, which they told me is not an option in my

district.

> >

> > Opions welcome, thanks, Ivy

> >

>