Re: newbie guide request

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Most parents are checking with their child's doctors for any supplements other

than nutriiveda and fish oils but as nutriiveda is whole food nutrition it

replaces a daily multi vitamin and has made it super simple for those of us

using it. And being so simple the testimonies are hard to believe -until you

try it http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html In most cases it's being

reported doctors are recommending or allowing the use of the fish oils and

nutriiveda unless one has a medical or nutritional needs outside of the norm.

Blood or neurotransmitter tests are recommended for those children on

medications due to what happened with (you can read here

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/category/ayurveda-journal )And here is

a group of metabolic tests one neuroMD is running from a recent message. Your

child's doctor may suggest other tests instead or as well and in many cases

there are children in this group who don't go through any metabolic testing -but

I highly suggest if nothing else -testing for carnitine levels!:

Hi All - My son, 3, yesterday was diagnosed autistic and having hypotonia. We

give him Fish Oils and NV and have had significant progress with both. His Dev

pediatrician just recommended metabolic testing due to the hypotonia - one of

these being amino acids (plasma amino acids and urine amino & organic acids),

which I note is also in NV (and probably other things they're testing for).

Unfortunately I didn't see the list of the tests that she's giving until after

leaving and it didn't even occur to me to ask whether NV would affect the test

results. I was just curious if anyone has done this testing or has an idea of

whether this would be an issue - or perhaps I should discuss it directly with

her.

Thanks!

In case it helps, here is the list of tests she recommended:

Urine amino & organic acids

lactate

pyruvate

comprehensive metabolic profile

plasma amino acids

CBC

CGH/Microarray

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Both fish oils and nutriiveda support the metabolic system and both contain

essential nutrients. Fish oils contain the essential fatty acids and nutriiveda

contains all of the essential amino acids. Essential means that the body needs

them but can't assimilate them so one needs to consume them.

As a group due to reports within days for those of us who tried speak which

contains mega vitamin E and K (search " hypervitaminosis e " and hypervitaminosis

k " ) we do not recommend even trying speak. In fact it's why I was so quick to

embrace a balanced nutrition from whole foods.

Each ingredient in nutriiveda is certified as a food, so unlike supplementing

with various nutrients you are providing a synergistically blended whole food,

100 percent all natural, gluten, casein, fat, sodium, caffeine free protein that

provides ALL of the essential amino acids and nutrients the body needs per

serving formulated by leading doctors.

Here are parent/doctor theories as to why it's working

http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

This is a great page to learn more about what type of results are being reported

http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html

And for those who are already using nutriiveda please take the survey here so we

can share with professionals to further help our children

http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html

If you have any questions after reading up on this please let me know!

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[Guest guest]

Our DD's doctor did not recommend metabolic testing. Should I ask for it? We

did check with our child's doctor to start omegas and NV and have seen

tremendous progress with both. I am thankful to find this group.

>

> Most parents are checking with their child's doctors for any supplements other

than nutriiveda and fish oils but as nutriiveda is whole food nutrition it

replaces a daily multi vitamin and has made it super simple for those of us

using it. And being so simple the testimonies are hard to believe -until you

try it http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html In most cases it's being

reported doctors are recommending or allowing the use of the fish oils and

nutriiveda unless one has a medical or nutritional needs outside of the norm.

>

> Blood or neurotransmitter tests are recommended for those children on

medications due to what happened with (you can read here

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/category/ayurveda-journal )And here is

a group of metabolic tests one neuroMD is running from a recent message. Your

child's doctor may suggest other tests instead or as well and in many cases

there are children in this group who don't go through any metabolic testing -but

I highly suggest if nothing else -testing for carnitine levels!:

>

> Hi All - My son, 3, yesterday was diagnosed autistic and having hypotonia. We

give him Fish Oils and NV and have had significant progress with both. His Dev

pediatrician just recommended metabolic testing due to the hypotonia - one of

these being amino acids (plasma amino acids and urine amino & organic acids),

which I note is also in NV (and probably other things they're testing for).

Unfortunately I didn't see the list of the tests that she's giving until after

> leaving and it didn't even occur to me to ask whether NV would affect the test

results. I was just curious if anyone has done this testing or has an idea of

whether this would be an issue - or perhaps I should discuss it directly with

her.

> Thanks!

>

> In case it helps, here is the list of tests she recommended:

> Urine amino & organic acids

> lactate

> pyruvate

> comprehensive metabolic profile

> plasma amino acids

> CBC

> CGH/Microarray

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> Both fish oils and nutriiveda support the metabolic system and both contain

essential nutrients. Fish oils contain the essential fatty acids and nutriiveda

contains all of the essential amino acids. Essential means that the body needs

them but can't assimilate them so one needs to consume them.

>

> As a group due to reports within days for those of us who tried speak which

contains mega vitamin E and K (search " hypervitaminosis e " and hypervitaminosis

k " ) we do not recommend even trying speak. In fact it's why I was so quick to

embrace a balanced nutrition from whole foods.

>

> Each ingredient in nutriiveda is certified as a food, so unlike supplementing

with various nutrients you are providing a synergistically blended whole food,

100 percent all natural, gluten, casein, fat, sodium, caffeine free protein that

provides ALL of the essential amino acids and nutrients the body needs per

serving formulated by leading doctors.

>

> Here are parent/doctor theories as to why it's working

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

>

> This is a great page to learn more about what type of results are being

reported

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html

>

> And for those who are already using nutriiveda please take the survey here so

we can share with professionals to further help our children

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/survey.html

> If you have any questions after reading up on this please let me know!

>

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>

[Guest guest]

what happened with Vitamin E? I remember there was quite a lot of discussion, I

became very confused! alpha, vs add gamma if too high a dose of alpha, I see it

isn't talked about so much any more? were there problems, or did people feel it

did not work well after all?

[Guest guest]

There always was a tiny amount of vitamin e in the fish oils and it's still

there. About 15 IU per capsule. It's there because it helps prevent oxidation

of the fish oils and also because there was a study back in the early 2000s that

supplementation of fish oils over a period of time can create a vitamin e

deficiency- so Nordic raised the vitamin e slightly from 9 to 15 IU I recall.

In this group we for about a year or so used a higher but not mega amount of

vitamin e- about 200 to 400 IU. But due to a product called speak that came

out with very high levels pushing at full dosage of 6 capsules I recall 1000 IU

of alpha and 600 of gamma of both vitamin e and k and the horrific results in

DAYS from that product (have link to reports below) no we don't talk about or

even recommend supplementation of vitamin e unless a doctor feels it necessary.

But yes small amount of vitamin e are healthy -but here lays the danger for all

of us who supplement with this and that and don't get most nutrients the way

nature intended -through diet - from whole foods -like nutriiveda. It's hard to

overdose on too many carrots and you'll start turning yellow first -way easier

to take too much vitamin a capsules.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000350.htm

Just like with water and oxygen what we need to survive if given in mega dosages

can kill us

water

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865

oxygen

http://www.utdol.com/patients/content/topic.do?topicKey=~XyyyYqf2EgC44W

vitamin e

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/126268-overview

So the word of the day is 'moderation'

Again this is one of the reasons that I have become such a strong believer in

getting our nutrients from whole foods. All the nutrients including vitamin e

in nutriiveda are from whole foods and for vitamin e it's a conservative 15 IU

per scoop -so the same amount of vitamin e per capsule of fish oil (another

comparison to fish oils http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html

So if you haven't been around that's probably why you are not aware of why we no

longer talk about vitamin e. And again- in moderation of course it's needed and

healthy -and if you have a child that needs more than the norm supplemented

-please proceed under a medical doctor's care AND with extreme caution in my

opinion -read on as to why I say this from a recent archive because yes this has

come up recently:

You can check the archives here which documents the actual positive, neutral and

negative results reported in our group by the parents. The negative results

have the greatest responses.

/links/Pharma_Omega_Spea\

k_reports_from_group_001224703760/

In short you may want to look up the words " hypervitaminosis e " and

" hypervitaminosis k " but read on to see what was reported from our group and

please be careful!!! Our group supports the use of essential fatty acids and

essential amino acids but we do not support the use of mega dosages of vitamin E

and K due to the horrific results from our group.

Here's more from an archive

may want to read up on Speak here:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=10637

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=7363

And may want to read this excellent expert opinion on speak

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Speech-Disorders-987/2008/11/New-patented-product-ava\

ilable.htm

Also if you decide to go with speak may want to look up hypervitaminosis.

My son had MASSIVE regressions on Speak that horrify me to even think of. I had

to go to his school back then to explain to the entire school with Tanner in a

circle of friends why my son suddenly could no longer speak (ironic what they

call the product) because my son went from speaking the way he did here

http://www.debtsmart.net/talk/tanner.html to where he would open his mouth and

nothing would come out and he'd grope. It was a NIGHTMARE. The school, his

friends, teachers, professionals, us, neighbors, family -we all had to wait

patiently for Tanner to try to get out simple thoughts- and he would forget how

to say even simple things like...the letter B!!!!! And that was after less than

2 weeks on this stuff. I spent many nights back then crying myself to sleep and

praying not just for him but for all the children who's parents reported

seizures etc. I have no idea why that product is still on the market to the

general public and have lost respect for any professional that would just

recommend it. I thank GOD every day that Tanner didn't stay profoundly regressed

from Speak. But even after 7 months my son never came back 100 percent but was

close to where he was before. But I was thankful he did slowly improve.

It wasn't until years later -and even within weeks of Nutriiveda that my son not

only came back to where he was before & #65533;but has soared beyond our wildest

dreams. And ironically the first one to say anything about Tanner's surges was

not us...it was once again the head of school at Tanner's school and noticed by

all the teachers and other students.

Nutriiveda is not a weight loss product. Nutriiveda is an all natural 100

percent FDA approved as food high quality nutrition that works with the body to

support the metabolic system. It is gluten, casein, fat, sodium, caffeine free

and contains all the essential amino acids and nutrients and all again from food

sources. Each ingredient is checked for heavy metals and Nutriiveda was

formulated by world renowned doctors including Dr. Deepak Chopra and Dr.

Simon. There have been over 600 clinical studies to validate the health reasons

of each of the foods in it and there will probably be research to validate what

we are seeing in our group as the success rate is almost across the board for

all ages and all conditions so far it seems. I know that appears hard to believe

but it's probably only because if you understand nutrition -it's rare for any of

us to get all the essential amino acids from one food source as we do in this

product- and put that together with everything else and this product is just

mind blowing impressive. Nutriiveda will nourish and detox the body if needed

and yes if you have excess fat it will get rid of it & #65533;but if you are

underweight it will help you gain muscle. Below is just one of the recent

testimonies from Diane who's on Nutriiveda (same product) as her son. He had

surges and gained 3 pounds and shot up an inch or so in the same month that

Dianne lost 15 pounds and gained more focus.

" We're seeing incredible gains with Liam. Took him to his DAN doc on Monday and

she not only approved using NV (after verifying with me that the botanicals

weren't tainted in any way and the whey was casein-free), but agreed with taking

Liam off of the multivitamin (Vitaspectrum) she had put him on, adding only an

extra Folate + B12 supplement and zinc, since blood work showed he is low in

these things. She remarked on how much healthier he looks - no longer has

translucent skin, lots of color in his face. Liam has also grown 1 1/2 inches

and gained 3 lbs. He seems happier, and no longer begs to stay home from

preschool. Still more attentive and engaged. Asking WHAT questions (had never

done before) and speaking in more complex sentences. He is even imitating the

British accent the Pig family has on Peppa Pig! too cute! His imaginative play

has increased, including - and this was a big one we thought - bonding with one

of his stuffed animals and actually naming it. He has never cared about stuffed

animals before - ever. He has carried this one around with him now for 3 days

and sleeps holding onto it. He puts it in his wagon and wheels it around the

house, and it plays games and watches DVDs with him, too. We are thrilled! He is

sleeping deeper/longer/better. His appetite, which has always been good, is even

better. We are so very pleased!

As for me - I've lost about 15 lbs., my energy level is great, I'm sleeping

better, and my head is much clearer - not sure exactly how to describe what has

happened, but I've felt so foggy for so many years that I've not even been able

to recall the words to songs that I hear over and over. Maybe processing speed

of some sort? At any rate, that has resolved, too.

I wish I understood exactly what it is in NV that is helping my son and me so

very much, but whatever it is its making me feel better than I have in years,

and it's clearly making a big difference for our son, which everyone has noticed

and remarked on!

Dianne "

You can read lots more here http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html

And you may have missed the amazing recent update about Robin's 26 year old

daughter Mel who had in the past few years previous to being on Nutriiveda was

hospitalized and almost died from her seizures & #65533;has been seizure free for

3 months since being on Nutriiveda & #65533;and according to neuro testing and her

doctors there is no explanation to the change in her brain to healthy other than

" nutriiveda " and that " by the end of the year should be off all seizure

medication "

There is more to Mel's amazing journey but I suggest you also read the blog here

if you have a chance

http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/category/ayurveda-journal

My advice to you -in addition to doing your homework online -take the ingredient

list of each product to your pediatrician, a nutritionist and ask them which

they would recommend. I already know the answer I got across the board so I'm

sure you'll get the same.

By the way you didn't ask about fish oils -just fish oils!!!

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=7401

And the beauty is -you can do both fish oils and nutriiveda -many of us are. Why

not make sure your child is getting both essential fatty acids and essential

amino acids?

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