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Helen,

I've been thinking of you. I really hope the HBOT and Flagyl do the job and

you r suffering through the treatment is not in vain. You know how awful the

Flagyl was for me at the beginning but it really, really paid off. You

probably already know this - taking Flagyl in the middle of a heavy (meat

and potatoes type of meal) meal usually helps the " tummy problems. " Fresh

vegetables and fruit exacerbated the problems. I normally don't eat this way

at all and I know that it's not healthy in the long run but it really

helped. I have to start trying to lose some of the weight I gained from that

period.

Happy Spring,

beth

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Helen,

I've been thinking of you. I really hope the HBOT and Flagyl do the job and

you r suffering through the treatment is not in vain. You know how awful the

Flagyl was for me at the beginning but it really, really paid off. You

probably already know this - taking Flagyl in the middle of a heavy (meat

and potatoes type of meal) meal usually helps the " tummy problems. " Fresh

vegetables and fruit exacerbated the problems. I normally don't eat this way

at all and I know that it's not healthy in the long run but it really

helped. I have to start trying to lose some of the weight I gained from that

period.

Happy Spring,

beth

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Hi Helen,

Good to hear from you. You sound a little better than you did a couple

of weeks ago.

I'm also on Flagyl...makes me sleepy, but I had a few days where my

insides weren't shaking from fatigue, so I think it may be helping a

little. If this doesn't work, I don't know what to do...we re-appealed

for IV abx, but so far no news. Anybody who is shopping for health

insurance, DON'T GET OXFORD.

Feel Better,

Joan LI NY

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Hi Joan and everyone,

Thank you for writing to me. I am better than I was, thank God. I

definitely went through hell after HBOT but now I feel at least more human. I

am so sorry to hear about Oxford. We have had so many hard times with

insurance companies (my husband changed jobs) and I know what a horror it can

be. I figure I'll die poor but who cares. " Stuff " isn't making me better is

it? We all have a different perspective because we all have gone through hell

with these diseases so all that matters is feeling better. We have each other

too as Reid always says (sorry you are so sick Reid--hang in there old

pal!!)I will pray that flagyl helps. Don't give up hope because I took

flagyl a year ago and it didn't do much but now it seems to be shaking things

up a lot and making me have herxes. I didn't want to make this too long but I

do want to tell all of you that I started to take Questran (the powder that

is made to reduce cholesterol) For Lyme it is supposed to take neurotoxins

out of you making you feel better. It is very constipating and very hard to

take around oral meds because you have to take it an hour before meds or 3

hours after. I have always done what my doctor says to do but I just needed a

break from being tied down with the next thing. I will try again after my

next visit and will let all of you know if it helps OK? well, hang in there

Joan. God knows I have a lot of experience with many a bleak and hopeless day

but I am telling all of you------if a horrendous case like mine can feel

better there is hope for you. I am back to help encourage all of you when you

need it.

Love,

Helen in Robbinsville

WHO lives in Robbinsville NJ???????

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i was wondering about the oxygen tanks to be used instead of the HBOT...i

read about it in the lyme book.....'coping with lyme disease by denise

lang....

thanks

cheryl

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Hi Cheryl,

I am not familiar with the oxygen tanks. I can't imagine how that would

work. Wish I could help more. I was in a monochamber (one person lays in it)

but there are multichamber units and you sit or recline and a hood is put

over your head that delivers the O2 at the level below sealevel you need. DR

Fife wrote the protocols and I know he has a website.

Love,

Helen in Robbinsville

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As far as I know, HBOT is still considered experimental for

treating Lyme....it's not an accepted procedure reimbursable

by Medicare or private medical insurance, as is the case for

something like diabetic wounds that heal poorly or chronic

refractory osteomyelitis....I've had 40 HBOT for the latter,

but I still have something (Lyme?) going on...

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Anita

Sounds like some pretty wonderful and exciting things are taking

place at your house! Congratulations on the success. I think that

is totally awesome that you continue to see even more improvements

since finishing. Please do keep posting on his progress.

Sheresa

>

> Dear listmates,

>

> Below is an update on our recent HBOT experience. Once again, I'd

> like to say that I'm glad to be back (and happy to have findished

> wading through hundreds of posts I missed: is the pace picking up

> here or is it just me?)

>

> HBOT update (written August 8, 2006):

>

> We did a total of 42 one hour dives at 100% oxygen and 1.5 ATA over

> a period of 4.5 weeks. For 4 of the 5 days of the week, we would

> dive twice. On Wednesdays, we dove only once. My son, who is

> 3.5, hated the hood. With one certain technician, who listened to

> my instructions and was extraordinarily attentive, placing and

> removing the hood went quite smoothly. This wasn't always the case

> with the other technicians, who were less understanding of the

needs

> of an autistic child. This part was frustrating, but once my son

> was in the chamber, he was generally calm and would focus on the

> movie playing outside the chamber.

>

> I chose to chelate during HBOT. Urine and fecal tests showed

pretty

> impressive pulls. My son weighs 35 pounds and I was dosing 12 mg

of

> ALA and 8 mg of DMSA every 3 hours. With that, we pulled aluminum

> and nickel in the red; platinum, antimony, and lead in the yellow;

> cadmium and bismuth in the very high green. Lead, at 18, was

almost

> 7 times higher than any other pull in the past. Prior to HBOT we'd

> chelated about 37 rounds.

>

> I also chose to run a very low dose viral protocol during HBOT. I

> was using only 2 Virastop a day and 2 scoops of Lauricidin a day.

> For about a 4 day period, my son had what appeared to be a viral

> rash around his mouth.

>

> The changes we saw were subtle. The first noticeable change was

> improved sleep. My son began to sleep deeply and more. So did I,

> for that matter. At the beginning, it wasn't uncommon for him to

> fall asleep in the carseat after a dive, even if it was much too

> early for his regular nap. We also saw improvements in his bowels;

> however, these improvements would not last. Bowels would be good

> Wednesday through Saturday, but the struggles would start again

> Sunday and generally last until Tuesday. As I write this, it has

> been 3 days since our last dive and the same problems have

> returned. This has been an ongoing struggle for us. Our earlier

> viral protocol helped, as have visits to the chiropractor, but

> nothing helps permanently.

>

> My son seems to have had a bit of a growth spurt. He hasn't put on

> weight, but grew a bit more than ½ an inch during the four weeks of

> HBOT. Even his therapists commented on how much bigger he was

> getting.

>

> We had one sudden and amazing day of language around dive 30. For

> the first time, my son chose to carry around a soft toy animal and

> when I told him it was a giraffe (a word he used to know but would

> use only when playing computer) he looked at it carefully and

> said " guvaff " . He then said it again, less tentatively, and ran to

> me for a hug, which seemed to communicate his understanding of what

> had just transpired. It was as if he really understood for the

> first time that he could label something. That same day he uttered

> about 7 or 8 other words. This burst lasted only the one day, but

> we are seeing some little bit of language each day now, including a

> sentence: " Car……go " when he wanted to leave a park. Also, today,

> he signed his first sign, something we've been working on since a

> couple weeks before HBOT. " More " was the sign. His receptive

> language seems improved also, and he can understand a couple simple

> signs like " shoes " and " snack " .

>

> We've seen more affection towards us and today he hugged his SLP

for

> the first time. We've also seen much greater ability to deal with

> frustration and a few new signs of humour. Therapy sessions with

> the SLP and OT, which started just a few weeks prior to HBOT, are

> going very well—a credit to the therapists and HBOT.

>

> I was more nervous about starting HBOT than any other intervention

> I've tried. Something about having to trust someone else, I

think.

> But, I am very happy that we chose to go ahead with it. As all

> parents, we were obviously hoping to see miracles but actually got

> something more commonplace: subtle but very inspiring and MUCH

> appreciated changes that we hope will continue. I intend to start

> HBOT again in early September (40 dives over 4 weeks) in an effort

> to build on what we've seen so far. I plan to chelate again as I

> did before (3.5 on/3.5 off) and run a low dose viral protocol for

> the duration, as these two interventions seem to be appropriate for

> my son during HBOT.

>

> Added August 11: We continue to see small improvements. Today my

> son helped dh put a tricyle away. This has never happened before.

> We're also seeing some pretty good face contact and a greater

> awareness of hand gestures. I should mention that we're on a kind

> of supplement break for now, awaiting ION test results. I'm not

> sure how this drastic reduction in supping is impacting things,

> other than making life much easier :-)

>

>

>

> Anita

>

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Hi Anita,

HBOT is one of those things which I've also been hesitant to do.

Probably for the same reason you mentioned. But your experience has

me rethinking my reluctance. I'm thrilled for you and your family!

Thanks for sharing.

Orelindel

> I was more nervous about starting HBOT than any other intervention

> I've tried. Something about having to trust someone else, I

think.

> But, I am very happy that we chose to go ahead with it. As all

> parents, we were obviously hoping to see miracles but actually got

> something more commonplace: subtle but very inspiring and MUCH

> appreciated changes that we hope will continue.

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Thanks to everyone for your kind words on our HBOT progress (I'd

like to thank you personally but I'm off again for some time). This

morning my son drew on a magnetic pad for about half an hour,

erasing it himself too. Small wonders :-)!

About the precocious puberty. A growth spurt is not uncommon for

kids doing HBOT from what I've read. This would likely be

particularly true for kids who have fallen behind in terms of the

trajectory they should have been on. My son would probably be one

of those kids. He's not small, but he was a 9.5 pound baby and

prior to his regression, he certainly seemed destined to be

somewhere at the top of the growth charts. HBOT increased his

appetite also, so that would account for some growth.

Gratefully,

Anita

> >

> > Anita,

> >

> > All this sounds good. I hope you keep making progress.

> >

> > You mentioned a " sudden growth spurt " . Have you ever tested him

for

> precocious puberty? High testosterone levels (for whatever reason)

seem

> to prevent traditional ASD treatments from working.

> >

>

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HI,

We have now had 12hours of hbot and things are going great. Jack is such a

little trooper, he doesn't mind being in the chamber at all. We are starting

to notice a few small changes. Usually it isn't until after 20hours that

things start to noticable change. My husband said my name to me on the phone

today, and Jack from the back seat yelled out " mama! " He is very alert and

has much more energy. He is vocalizing more and playing with his mouth. We

are still on the SCD diet however we are still taking NV. It is not SCD

legal, however, he is tolerating it quite well and I feel it has helped heal

his gut. Everyday is exciting, he is doing new things all the time. I know

we are on a long path but I am glad to be well supported on it! Jack's

doctor has him on some homeopathic drops which I beleive are also helping.

Anni

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It is so great and enjoyable to see new things come out of our kids. That's how

it's supposed to be! Thanks for keeping us informed-it sounds great. Cheryl

>

> HI,

> We have now had 12hours of hbot and things are going great. Jack is such a

little trooper, he doesn't mind being in the chamber at all. We are starting to

notice a few small changes. Usually it isn't until after 20hours that things

start to noticable change. My husband said my name to me on the phone today,

and Jack from the back seat yelled out " mama! " He is very alert and has much

more energy. He is vocalizing more and playing with his mouth. We are still on

the SCD diet however we are still taking NV. It is not SCD legal, however, he

is tolerating it quite well and I feel it has helped heal his gut. Everyday is

exciting, he is doing new things all the time. I know we are on a long path but

I am glad to be well supported on it! Jack's doctor has him on some homeopathic

drops which I beleive are also helping.

> Anni

>

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