Re: Vaccines.. Has anyone seen this?

[Guest guest]

I don't know if a day will ever come that vaccines aren't a hot topic here or

anywhere in the world. Last night I watched the Colbert Report and he had the

opposing side on (ie: reasons to vaccinate) and there are blogs like this one

that even reference the blog you just posted http://blog.drwile.com/?p=3591 And

apparently you can watch the event they hosted that they took down here

http://blog.drwile.com/?p=3528 (I didn't watch it but just found this on a 2

second search on Google)

We as parents hold the responsibility to our children to protect them and be

educated to proceed with what we feel is in their best interest. I believe the

best way of doing this is not to fall into fear tactics or hype. In general I

try to stay clear of any doctor or individual who is only one sided and can't

see the other point of view because I believe both sides have their strong

points....so what do I believe?

My view is the same -that whether you vaccinate your child or not is a personal

decision between parents and their child's doctor who they hopefully trust. I

myself am not anti vaccine -but I am against the overuse of drugs that is going

on today which is seen in part in antibiotic use. There is no doubt that there

are strong points to both sides -and there is the middle road which is where

parents do vaccinate, but choose vaccines without thimerosal and spread out the

vaccines to vaccinate older when possible.

I do not view vaccines as the main cause of autism and apraxia -but I do believe

back when my son got his high fevers which I later learned from medical records

was after his 3rd Hep shot that it probably was due to his vaccine as back then

there was thimerosal in that vaccine. You can visibility see the difference in

my son's tone and response before and after the fevers which are mentioned in

The Late Talker book. But again I don't believe it means that everyone should

stop vaccinating because to me death is worse than apraxia or autism- and some

of the conditions we protect our children from are still out there in the world

-some still in the US, and yes there are pockets of outbreaks which may or may

not be due to less parents vaccinating but clearly brings greater risk to those

that are not vaccinated either way.

I have written this blog on this topic a few weeks ago

http://pursuitofresearch.org/2011/01/09/dr-wakefield-attacked-potentially-causin\

g-thousands-of-birds-to-die/ but as you can tell from reading it I blame far

more environmental toxins and assaults for my son's apraxia than I do vaccines.

I just believe the vaccine was the final straw for him for an already

compromised system- and if you don't know what I mean -this

http://pursuitofresearch.org/2011/01/09/a-tale-of-dead-birds-and-black-ooze-in-n\

j/ is the main reason we moved from NJ- and in my opinion either there was an

attempted cover up to downplay the severity of what was going on -or we elected

complete morons to office. Either way -where I used to live you honestly could

have gone from block to block and have found at least one child with autism or

apraxia....and that included those parents that did not vaccinate their kids.

In fact I know through my sister in law who is a chemist at J & J that her

friend's one child was diagnosed with autism -so after doing research they

didn't vaccinate their second child and he has much more severe autism than the

older child.

I got a private email from some poor nanny who is heartbroken because the child

she cared for was just diagnosed with apraxia and when he was a baby he rolled

from the changing table to the floor (carpet) and all were informed -the child

was checked and no head injury....but she wanted to know if that incident could

have caused the apraxia -she was wracked with guilt. I of course told her that

I agree with her parents that she needs to stop blaming herself -we don't know

what is causing this dramatic rise in the children for previously rare

neurological disorders, but if every child that got a bump or fell developed

apraxia we'd probably all have it!

The point is we all have to stop looking for blame so much that we forget that

these conditions may be due to a number of factors -we certainly today are

living in a much more toxic world and our diets to put it bluntly are disgusting

for the most part- high fat, high sugar, synthetic garbage and we fear things

like essential nutrients as I write here

http://pursuitofresearch.org/2011/01/28/taco-bell-eat-first-ask-questions-later/

But any one of us that has a strong belief can find a blog that supports that

view. The trick is doing enough research to find balance and objectivity...as

well as a common thread amongst many studies. To me removing the thimerosal was

a very good thing because it's my opinion that for the most part kids today with

apraxia are NOT as severe as they were a decade ago when my son was diagnosed.

That's what I believe.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sebrina,

 

I look back at my daughter's pictures and see how she got slower and slower in

progression after every vaccine. I did not realise all the issues with vaccines

at the time and so she got vaccinated. Doctor's in Canada really push vaccines.

My dad had gotten the flu and pneumonia vaccine in 2000 and got Guillian-Barre

syndrome. He had to go to a rehab hospital and had to re-learn how to walk. He

was in the rehab hospital for about 4 months full time and then 2 months on and

off. Thank God he recovered !

 

Demi

From: Sebrina <sunmamma@...>

Subject: [ ] Vaccines.. Has anyone seen this?

Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 11:39 AM

 

http://naturalnews.com/Vaccines_Get_the_Full_Story.html I received this in an

email this morning and would love to hear some thoughts on it.

Sebrina

[Guest guest]

Sebrina--i am glad they finally put soemthign like this together--- Thank you

for posting it.

Vaccination is a highly debated and highly political topic. It is also one of

the most profitable Pharmaceutical endevours--because they are not really

required to prove anything--not that it actually works--not that it is

safe--they can market one vaccine after another and not be held accountable at

all--and they realy are not----they've made sure of that --the laws put the

burden of prof  in the patient's court to prove that they were injured by a

vaccine--and due to the way injuries can hapen and how injury is determined and

what attributions ar emade--few medical profesionals venture out to risk their

license and say the vaccine was at fault.  So such " proof " that rarely

hapens--though we've had a few major break throughs recently-with Hanah Polling

with a neurologist father and lawyer mother being the most publicized one.. 

There are a lot of other resources out there for parents who care to step

outside the box and think a little before blindly following pediatricain's

advice for any treatment --not just vaccines.  What they do not know is that a

lot of those pediatricians can lose their license if they do not tell you to

vacci nate--or even if they ahve a lot of unvaccinated children in their case

load---they can be questioned as to why and it means they ar enot following the

AMA/CDC guidelines--for which they can be reprimended.

If your chld gets injured from vaccination--most injuries are not immediate or

obvious but can unfold over the course of years--right when your child gets

diagnosed w/ADD/ADHD come school age or with a learning dissability. Others

become autistic /metabolically and immunologically damaged right away or witin

weeks--months.  It varies--but those who believe bvaccines are not what they are

held to be---say the potential for damage is there for everyone----the degree

and the affected systems vary--it all depends on the genetic make up--existing

toxic body burden, ability of the child to detoxify/or NOT, nutritional

status---and so on. 

It should not surprise parents that a thorough document like this has been

finally put out and that there are so many reputable medical professionals

endorsing it-----many more whose names do not appear here of course---it is a

growing concern when one in 6 children admitedly has a learnign disability

according to public school records--OFFICIAL RECORDS--and this really means it

is more like 1 in 4 becuase many kids are private/home schooled--esspecially

those with disabilities--and it is actually quite hard to get a learnign

disability diagnosis--i know my daughter has the speech disability--but the

learnign one will take years perhaps--she is also dyslexic we suspect--but not

severly --so she will most likely not be considered to have a learnign

diissability until 3-5th grade when they will no longer be able to deny it-if I

leave it up to them.

The point is-neurological, immunological and metabolic disorders are on the

rise--that cannot be denied--they ar eon the rise in the young and the old

especially--but yoiung dults are increasingly affected to. Vaccines may not be

the only factor-there are plenty of other toxins to worry about----

Watch ken Kook's -- " 10 Americans " ---if you've not already done so

http://healthychild.org/live-healthy/video_library_comments/10_americans_an_inco\

nvenient_truth_for_toxics_health/

So vaccines definately need to be reexamined-- improved constnatly--made safe

and effective and   and if somethign goes wrong--the manufacturers should be

held accountable--not the public  compensating the injured parties with public

money.   And they should definately not mandated for everyone----but that's how

the money is made--when the lobyists convince the gvt. to mandate them and they

insurance payes, Medicare/medicaid pays --no one questions need, efficacy or

safety--everyone is just buldozed to acdept them as the absolute thruth--and

nothing should ever be considered as that-particularly when there is so much

evidence pointing to the contrary--no matter how they tried to hide it and

discredit those who bring forth such proof.

So you asked for an opinion--I gave you my honest one. 

Every parent should read, educate him/herself and make informed haelth decisions

always--after carefully examining both sides.

Our children's health is our responsibility so we owe it to them to not blindly

trust--but read, learn, think critically--discuss these things with other

parents and learn from their experiences--and chjhallenge our pediatricians---to

provide proof--yes, PROOF of vaccine safety--long term--not just for 10 days

after  the way vaccines are usually tested and the ones who get sick are

excluded from the trial claming they were sick before and shoudln't confuse the

issues---i have a research background and always try to go to the research

methodology--sample choice--how placebo was chosen/adminstered/attrition---and i

can vouch for not having yet seen a convncing research that proves any vaccine

is safe--NEVER.  And always follow the money-see who has funded the

research-what are their affiliations--who provides their funding?--these

questions usually explain many of the contradictions and results that seem to

contradict parental evidence and independent

research results--whic are tereafter--not replicated.  But who is trying to

replicate it--are they trying to disprove it-or truly replicate it?--these

questions soemhow are never answered and many  invalid " research " is then

presented as an absolute truth. There is no such thing.

But every parent needs to think and decide for themselves after carefully

examining both sides--and only then--and not allow themselves to be intimidated

or bullied even by medical professionals who also blindly follow what they are

told. Our children's health is just too importnat to not understand what is at

stake here--and what all our options are to keep them healthy and thriving.  And

believe me there are options--healthy nutrition and supplements-avoidence of

toxic exposures --be they from food, water, environment, hygene and hosehold

products, medications or vaccines-we ahve to stop blindly following and read

labels--understand what they say--what those substances do in our bodies and ask

more questions if we don't---it is a continuous research project but well worth

it--just like healthy food--even if it doe stake longer and is not as cheap as

fast fod and refined carbs in products with indefinite shelf life--like High

fructose Corn Syrup 

products or the  the MC s Burger buns that never die it seems--or the

Taco Bell beef that is mostly GMO corn/soy and other fillers and only 35%

beef--and even that is beef raised withGMO hormones and antibiotics--do we

really want stuff like that in our child?--These are the questions we need to

ask ourselves. it's a lot of work--but staying healthy is all worth it.

Best of health,

Elena

From: Sebrina <sunmamma@...>

Subject: [ ] Vaccines.. Has anyone seen this?

Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 11:39 AM

http://naturalnews.com/Vaccines_Get_the_Full_Story.html I received this in an

email this morning and would love to hear some thoughts on it.

Sebrina