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I am so grateful for all of you guys out there helping! I have a

meeting with my probation monitor on 06/28, mandatory. I have to

present to her the information " my burden of proof " . I think I am

ready.....Thanks again to everyone!

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> Try this link:www.spfiles.com/piproventilhfa.pdf

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> can anyone help

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>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am still chasing my " burden of proof " for the board of nursing

here

> in CA. I have to prove to them that I have not drank with my

positive

> EtG. I have gone through everything, and I think I have narrowed

it

> down to my Albuterol inhaler (I have asthma). I have done just

about

> everything I can to find any kind of backup that albuterol has

> ethanol, but can't find it in writing anywhere. Does anyone have

any

> ideas where i can find the chemical compound of albuterol or

anything

> that would support my theory? Thanks, Jenn

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If you contact

the company that made your inhaler, the should give you a list of the

excipients.

Bonnie

can anyone help

Hi everyone,

I am still chasing my " burden of proof " for the board of nursing here

in CA. I have to prove to them that I have not drank with my positive

EtG. I have gone through everything, and I think I have narrowed it

down to my Albuterol inhaler (I have asthma). I have done just about

everything I can to find any kind of backup that albuterol has

ethanol, but can't find it in writing anywhere. Does anyone have any

ideas where i can find the chemical compound of albuterol or anything

that would support my theory? Thanks, Jenn

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Yeah, Right on the label of the inhaler is listed " USP " in

propellants. USP is 100% ethanol. USP stands for United States

Pharmacopoeia. You can just do a web search on USP alcohol and it

will show it is alcohol. The amount is not listed in a given

inhaler. A typical inhaler has 17g total wt. for 200 inhalations.

So assuming only a small portion of it is USP alcohol and likely not

much is absorbed with an inhalation,it may not be convincing. But it may in

fact have contributed. Good luck.

Emaill me if I can further help RR

>

> If you contact the company that made your inhaler, the should give

you a

> list of the excipients.

>

> Bonnie

>

>

>

> can anyone help

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am still chasing my " burden of proof " for the board of nursing

here

> in CA. I have to prove to them that I have not drank with my

positive

> EtG. I have gone through everything, and I think I have narrowed it

> down to my Albuterol inhaler (I have asthma). I have done just

about

> everything I can to find any kind of backup that albuterol has

> ethanol, but can't find it in writing anywhere. Does anyone have

any

> ideas where i can find the chemical compound of albuterol or

anything

> that would support my theory? Thanks, Jenn

>

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I am interested to know what level you tested at. Did the board

understand you explaination.

>

> If you contact the company that made your inhaler, the should give

you a

> list of the excipients.

>

> Bonnie

>

>

>

> can anyone help

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am still chasing my " burden of proof " for the board of nursing

here

> in CA. I have to prove to them that I have not drank with my

positive

> EtG. I have gone through everything, and I think I have narrowed it

> down to my Albuterol inhaler (I have asthma). I have done just

about

> everything I can to find any kind of backup that albuterol has

> ethanol, but can't find it in writing anywhere. Does anyone have

any

> ideas where i can find the chemical compound of albuterol or

anything

> that would support my theory? Thanks, Jenn

>

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I'm not so sure anyone here has convinced their board that an inhaler was the cause of a positive EtG. The facts all add up, but there fails to be the all-important scientific evidence that demonstrates it. Here's everything I can think of that deals with inhalers, inhaled ethanol, and EtG:

Propellants in most metered-dose inhalers contain ethanol, which is added as a dispersing agent. http://www.uspharmacist.com/oldformat.asp?url=newlook/files/Feat/ACF2F19.cfm & pub_id=8 & article_id=50

How much alcohol per inhalation? We don't know, as the package insert indicates that the propellant HFA-134a/ethanol solution is devoid of pharmacological activity, is rapidly absorbed and rapidly eliminated, leading to a transient appearance in the blood with no evidence of accumulation. http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_ventolin_hfa.pdf

Could the alcohol from an inhaler cause a positive EtG? There are anecdotal stories of such on this message board. There are no scientific studies to document the phenomenon. There is a 2004 study that concludes that low amounts of ethanol which could be ingested with pharmaceutical preparations containing ethanol could give rise to low urine EtG concentrations. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=GatewayURL & _method=citationSearch & _uoikey=B6TH2-4B7YMCT-1 & _origin=SDEMFRASCII & _version=1 & md5=f30356b678a859ee0a84a18963e645b1

Inhaled alcohol bypasses first-pass metabolism and is absorbed directly into the bloodstream, leaving glucuronidation as the primary metabolic route.

Ethanol does not typically enter the blood easily by inhalation due to the fact that it gets stuck in the upper airways and is exhaled in normal breating. Using an inhaler is not passive breathing! You are trying to force the medication (and alcohol) into the deep-lung alveolar regions of the lungs.

There was an unpublished study using Purell that demonstrated that inhalation is a major absorption route when using Purell, not skin absorption.

can anyone help> > > Hi everyone, > > I am still chasing my "burden of proof" for the board of nursing here > in CA. I have to prove to them that I have not drank with my positive > EtG. I have gone through everything, and I think I have narrowed it > down to my Albuterol inhaler (I have asthma). I have done just about > everything I can to find any kind of backup that albuterol has > ethanol, but can't find it in writing anywhere. Does anyone have any > ideas where i can find the chemical compound of albuterol or anything > that would support my theory? Thanks, Jenn>

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Where do you live?

Pepper

--- Kristy <ga_kristy@...> wrote:

> My sister 20 years old started falling out last

> week. She did it two

> times. First she is just going about her daily life

> then she screams

> and falls out. When she comes to she is very onfused

> and doesnt know

> who anyone is. This last about 30mins. After two of

> those my mom took

> her to the hospital where she stayed for 3 days

> doing mutilple tests

> that all came up negitive plus has 5 in the

> hospital. The released

> her saying she was having migrains. But lots of

> things my mom has

> read on the internet points to seizures. The only

> thing is, it doesnt

> say much about the confusiion, its so bad that she

> fights you because

> she doesnt know you! She still continues to have

> them too. Because

> she has had 5 today, my mom called the EMT to see if

> they could help,

> but they left saying my sister was on drugs. ( I

> thought they were

> suppose to take her in and if thet thought that do a

> drug test?) I

> know thats not the case.So My mom took her back to

> the hospital

> tonight. Im not sure whats being done yet. She

> doesnt have Ins so a

> regular Dr hasnt seen her yet.

>

> Anyone have any advise?

>

> Thanks

> Kristy

>

>

>

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Hello Pepper.

My name is Cruz and I'm a 47-year-old former sportswriter living in New

Orleans.

Just about 20 years ago I contracted the encephalitis virus from a mosquito

sting. That was in 1988. My life changed that day completely and I've never

recovered.

I had my first seizure that day and, ironically, it was the day I bought my

first house and moved in. A friend was helping with the furniture and I had that

first spell and went into a coma that lasted a couple of days.

Had I been alone in the house, with my friend leaving after things had gotten

settled that day, I would have died alone in all probability. Anyway, I was

rushed to the hospital and had seizure after grand mal seizure. I didn't

recognize anyone and was very violent to the point that I had to be restrained

in a strait jacket.

To make a long story short, I've been having seizures since and had to sell

the house that I lived in for a couple of hours, lost my job and had to move

back in with my mom and dad. My seizures have gradually subsided both in the

amount and intensity but I still have them.

What was the cause? That was never known. It's suspected that it was caused by

a mosquito sting carrying the encephalitis virus. By putting my story on the

encephalitis web site during the early years of my illness, I met a young lady

who was in worse condition I was. Today, she's since gotten married, has a

couple of kids and has completely recovered. Fortunately, she's been able return

to her " normal " life.

Me? Well, I feel as if I'm resigned to the fact that I'll be an epileptic for

the rest of my life. I've seen neurologists throughout the country and have had

all types of tests done without success.

My spells aren't as violent anymore and I don't have nearly the amount that I

had the first 5-8 years. My memory isn't good and I take what can be described

as a virtual pharmacy to try and control the spells. By looking or speaking with

me, you'd never know I had a physical disability. Still, I could have a spell at

any time.

Now Pepper, please don't read my story and BECOME DISCOURAGED! EACH CASE IS

DIFFERENT AND EVERYONE'S BIOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS VARY. ONE CASE CANNOT BE COMPARED

TO ANOTHER'S.

Don't believe that because I haven't recovered, you won't. The young lady that

got sick at about the same time I did was in worse shape than me and she's

completely recovered today. My case is an exception. Most epileptics go on to

lead normal lives with their medications helping control their spells.

I don't know what your situation is but if you or your family would like to

speak with me, I'd be very happy to discuss my case with you and try to give you

any help that I can.

I know what type of jolt this illness has both on you and your family during

the initial stages. You're desperate for help. I may not be able to provide you

with any but perhaps I could steer you in the right direction.

If you'd like to get in touch, my e-mail is: pharley1@... ..... my

phone number is 504-525-0847.

Good luck to you and God bless....

................. mario

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Where do you live?

Pepper

--- Kristy <ga_kristy@...> wrote:

> My sister 20 years old started falling out last

> week. She did it two

> times. First she is just going about her daily life

> then she screams

> and falls out. When she comes to she is very onfused

> and doesnt know

> who anyone is. This last about 30mins. After two of

> those my mom took

> her to the hospital where she stayed for 3 days

> doing mutilple tests

> that all came up negitive plus has 5 in the

> hospital. The released

> her saying she was having migrains. But lots of

> things my mom has

> read on the internet points to seizures. The only

> thing is, it doesnt

> say much about the confusiion, its so bad that she

> fights you because

> she doesnt know you! She still continues to have

> them too. Because

> she has had 5 today, my mom called the EMT to see if

> they could help,

> but they left saying my sister was on drugs. ( I

> thought they were

> suppose to take her in and if thet thought that do a

> drug test?) I

> know thats not the case.So My mom took her back to

> the hospital

> tonight. Im not sure whats being done yet. She

> doesnt have Ins so a

> regular Dr hasnt seen her yet.

>

> Anyone have any advise?

>

> Thanks

> Kristy

>

>

>

Alternative Epilepsy Treatments

http://epilepsyalternatives.freeservers.com

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There may be new treatments for the Fibromyalgia. The XMRV retrovirus may be

part of your problem. Whittemore- Institute associated with the

University of Nevada has done ground breaking research that has proven for the

most part that Fibromyalgia is NOT Psychological so the Cymbalta, Lyrica and

Flexeral may be doing nothing except covering a little of the pain and the

natural depression one has with pain. There is a new name for the retrovirus

disease and the NIH will probably announce a test for the retrovirus and new

treatment for those who have it. Fibromyalgia and CFS are quite similar. It is

possible that you have been improperly diagnosed with fibromyalgia but if you

have not there is a strong possibility you have the XMRV retrovirus and perhaps

other viruses as well.

LDN has helped me with my energy level but not the pain. LDN is worth taking.

ann

LDN since December last year

FM/OA

> From: rkaiser22 <rkaiser22@...>

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Can anyone help

> low dose naltrexone

> Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 10:48 PM

> I will be starting LDN soon. It is

> new for my great doc who is willing to help me get some of

> my life back. Cleaned my system out of any opiods. I have

> severe daily migraines. I have to take maxalt 10mg daily. I

> also take allergy shots for all sorts of foods and airborne

> and chemicals. I have constant pain now with my fibro. So,

> I'm also on Cymbalta,Lyrica and Flexeral. I have learned so

> much from reading in this forum, I'm so greatful. I just

> haven't found any posts that are like me. Does anyone have

> advice that might help my Doc and me on this journey

> hopefully to better health.  Thanks to all of you!

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HI, My name is Sana Shahin I just called you today asking you for help, my

son has apraxia and learning disabilities, his school does not help him that

much, I had meeting with them and they told me my son has very slow

improvement because his IQ is low, but this is not true, when I work with

him his respond very good, please can you give me any information how I get

help for my on. thank you so much. [hamdishahin@...]

hamdishahin @msn.com

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From: Mcdevitt [mailto:mcdevittjulia@...]

Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 5:53 PM

jbmistletoe@...

Subject: can anyone help

Ms. Buesser,

Your name was shown as the contact for the Bergen Support Group for Apraxia.

I have a three year old son PJ that was diagnosed with CAS by both a

neurologist and two private speech pathologists. He previously received

early intervention for both developmental delays and language. He is

receiving services from our public school in Vernon , and we are at a

standstill with his IEP. I have brought in advocate to help navigate our

way through the system. Our school has stated that they are not aware of

any preschool settings in NJ that are language infused for Apraxia. He

currently is in a setting that ranges from tuition " normal " students and

preschoolers with a range of disabilities. Obviously his IEP can not be

geared to his specific language disorder and oral motor issues in this

setting. Would you have any resources or facilities that you could refer me

to so I can become more educated on my sons needs and options.

Thank you so much for your time,

McDevitt

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My son is now 6 years old and is on level in our school's regular kindergarten

class and that has been great for him. When our son went to preschool there

wasn't a program just for apraxia either because I looked for that too. We had

to work around the program they had there for one on one speech therapy for him

because they just did group. It would have been nice if there was a school just

for apraxia but I don't know of any in our state either. Is that what you are

looking for? I'm just confused today! LOL Kate

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> From: Mcdevitt [mailto:mcdevittjulia@...]

> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 5:53 PM

> jbmistletoe@...

> Subject: can anyone help

>

>

>

> Ms. Buesser,

>

>

>

> Your name was shown as the contact for the Bergen Support Group for Apraxia.

> I have a three year old son PJ that was diagnosed with CAS by both a

> neurologist and two private speech pathologists. He previously received

> early intervention for both developmental delays and language. He is

> receiving services from our public school in Vernon , and we are at a

> standstill with his IEP. I have brought in advocate to help navigate our

> way through the system. Our school has stated that they are not aware of

> any preschool settings in NJ that are language infused for Apraxia. He

> currently is in a setting that ranges from tuition " normal " students and

> preschoolers with a range of disabilities. Obviously his IEP can not be

> geared to his specific language disorder and oral motor issues in this

> setting. Would you have any resources or facilities that you could refer me

> to so I can become more educated on my sons needs and options.

>

>

>

> Thank you so much for your time,

>

> McDevitt

>

>

>

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PS also wanted to say you should read the late talker book and also look into

using fish oils and NV, You can learn about the fish oils in the book and the NV

here http://www.pursuitofresearch.org Kate

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> From: Mcdevitt [mailto:mcdevittjulia@...]

> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 5:53 PM

> jbmistletoe@...

> Subject: can anyone help

>

>

>

> Ms. Buesser,

>

>

>

> Your name was shown as the contact for the Bergen Support Group for Apraxia.

> I have a three year old son PJ that was diagnosed with CAS by both a

> neurologist and two private speech pathologists. He previously received

> early intervention for both developmental delays and language. He is

> receiving services from our public school in Vernon , and we are at a

> standstill with his IEP. I have brought in advocate to help navigate our

> way through the system. Our school has stated that they are not aware of

> any preschool settings in NJ that are language infused for Apraxia. He

> currently is in a setting that ranges from tuition " normal " students and

> preschoolers with a range of disabilities. Obviously his IEP can not be

> geared to his specific language disorder and oral motor issues in this

> setting. Would you have any resources or facilities that you could refer me

> to so I can become more educated on my sons needs and options.

>

>

>

> Thank you so much for your time,

>

> McDevitt

>

>

>

>

>

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