when to increase dosage for fish oil and nv

[Guest guest]

My son,Mason, turned 4 in December. He started fish oils in July. We are taking

2 pro efa and 1 pro epa. Just wondering do you ever increase the dose? We also

started NV in October.He takes 2 heaping scoops a day. When to increase this? He

is very tall and weighs 47 lbs. His speech has inproved since being on both. He

now uses 2 words together most of the time.He has severe verbal and oral

apraxia,low tone in the trunk and sensory issues.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi - my son Tanner is now 14 and 6 foot and I have him on the same amount

of fish oils. I highly suspect the NV helps the body utilize the essential

fatty acids better because previous to NV Tanner was on 6 capsules (double what

you have your child on now) and if he missed even one day or we tried to reduce

his dosage his speech got " bumpy " in a day. Now he's on the half dosage and

it's about 4 days till he gets bumpy off. Again I'm not trying to stop the fish

oils -Tanner's not always good at remembering on his own. We are working on

that You should be fine for both -but if you do want to raise anything I'd

raise the NV a little bit more. As you are at heaping scoops that's probably

about the same as 2 and almost a half scoops anyway -ask your son's pediatrician

if you can go to 3 scoops a day. Or the other thing you can do is what some

have found even more surges by adding a bit of digestive enzymes or Accell

In addition to the progress in speech -what other areas from this list are you

seeing surges in? You should be seeing progress in a number of these areas if

not almost all. Are you?

SPEECH articulation, complexity and sophistication of sentence structure

LANGUAGE better understanding of written and spoken word, development of

better reading and writing skills

ACADEMICS/LEARNING reported surges in all areas of school. For preschool age

sudden awareness of numbers, letters, even spelling

FINE AND GROSS MOTOR SKILLS improvements in various activities reported

including riding a bike, swimming to buttoning pants and handwriting

POTTY TRAINING and bed wetting resolved for those of all ages who had issues

are reported

REGULAR ELIMINATION of waste for those that suffered from constipation, even

those that suffered for years prior

SENSE OF HUMOR both catching subtle humor/abstract humor, and wanting to

make others laugh-joking around

AWARENESS OF SURROUNDINGS (for autism) reported following gaze and more

interactions

FACIAL EXPRESSIONS more non-verbal communication, for oral apraxia more

expressions instead of blank stares when not engaged in conversation

FOCUS on task, more willing to listen and try

MULTI TASKING for those with motor planning impairments such as apraxia as

this is something typically not done or done well prior to NV

SOCIAL wanting to participate with others via play and communication

MOOD seems " happier " " easy going " , " no longer showing frustration "

BEHAVIOR normalization reported in a few cases of those with severe

behavioral issues of head banging, butting, hitting, aggression and anger issues

MUSIC increased interest in listening to, humming or singing music

DEVELOPMENTAL CATCHING UP for those that never went through stages

-reportedly going through them for the first time.

DECREASE IN SEIZURES so far in several cases elimination of any seizures and

headaches and decrease and elimination in seizure meds as well

IMAGINATIVE PLAY increase in imaginative play and story telling

IMPROVED DIET willingness to try more foods for those that were " picky

eaters " prior

Within 1 month or more:

SENSORY improvement in sensory awareness for those affected with sensory

integration dysfunction

GROWTH reported dramatic surges in height as well as increase in muscle and

normalization in weight

REFLEXES normalization of reflexes for those who had poor reflexes

TIC DISORDERS eliminated, even when under stress

http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit-of-research/

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[Guest guest]

We have seen improvement in fine and gross motor. He is doing much better

tracing and cutting and began riding his tricycle. He is more focused on task at

hand and has starting to do more 2 step directions.

His big change has been

speech. He has been in speech for 2 years now and it has only been since we

started NV that he can put 2 words together. He still has trouble with 3 words.

ex . I read book. He would just say read book. Which is fine.

We are just glad

to see him putting 2 words together. Once he goes to 3-5 syllables, things start

to break down. Lose the ending etc. He is very social. He was before NV but it

is hard b/c of the speech.

His imaginative play has improved but it still hard

b/c of the speech. He plays next to the kids in his prek room at our elementary

school and uses the limited speech he has. We haven't seen any improvement with

potty training. He was trained a year ago for urinating but the bowel movements

are a real problem. We had him trying before the nv and was constipated and it

scared him. Now he just lets a little out at the time, in his underwear.once he

is home from school. He normally will not go at school but will mess up 5-7

pairs of underwear once he is home. He just trys to hold it back.We have tried

everything. A treasure box, the papaya juice, The papaya juice makes him go

everyday but only alittle at each time and he refuses to go in the potty. The

sensory is still an issue. He does well at school because they move from one

activity to another.They keep him busy. When they go outside he wants to jump

and rub his fingers together, especially if he is watching someone on a riding

toy. At home we see it more. He wants to jump and rub his fingers watching tv or

movies and if he can get someone to push his trains for him.  But he can stop

when we tell him. But as long as the activity is still going on then he will

want to start back.

But he is more willing to try new things. Hair cuts are

better. Both of these were issues. Still have a long way to go on dressing. He

can pull up pants and take his shoes and socks off and coat off. But gets very

frustrated with the socks.

He has grown in height. Eating  has never been an

issue.He currently r.c 5 speech a week, 4 at school, and 1 private. 1 pt at

school and 1 ot at school a week. We also do private 0t 2x a month.He receptive

language is very good. He seems to be at age level for school activities.  He

is

has an incredible sense of direction. My daughters,ages 10 and 14, never know

where they are but he knows the routes to all the places we frequent. His memory

also seems to be very strong.

What do you mean by digestive enzymes?

Thanks for all your help.

 

________________________________

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:33:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: when to increase dosage for fish oil and nv

 

Hi - my son Tanner is now 14 and 6 foot and I have him on the same amount

of fish oils. I highly suspect the NV helps the body utilize the essential fatty

acids better because previous to NV Tanner was on 6 capsules (double what you

have your child on now) and if he missed even one day or we tried to reduce his

dosage his speech got " bumpy " in a day. Now he's on the half dosage and it's

about 4 days till he gets bumpy off. Again I'm not trying to stop the fish oils

-Tanner's not always good at remembering on his own. We are working on that

You should be fine for both -but if you do want to raise anything I'd raise the

NV a little bit more. As you are at heaping scoops that's probably about the

same as 2 and almost a half scoops anyway -ask your son's pediatrician if you

can go to 3 scoops a day. Or the other thing you can do is what some have found

even more surges by adding a bit of digestive enzymes or Accell

In addition to the progress in speech -what other areas from this list are you

seeing surges in? You should be seeing progress in a number of these areas if

not almost all. Are you?

SPEECH articulation, complexity and sophistication of sentence structure

LANGUAGE better understanding of written and spoken word, development of better

reading and writing skills

ACADEMICS/LEARNING reported surges in all areas of school. For preschool age

sudden awareness of numbers, letters, even spelling

FINE AND GROSS MOTOR SKILLS improvements in various activities reported

including riding a bike, swimming to buttoning pants and handwriting

POTTY TRAINING and bed wetting resolved for those of all ages who had issues are

reported

REGULAR ELIMINATION of waste for those that suffered from constipation, even

those that suffered for years prior

SENSE OF HUMOR both catching subtle humor/abstract humor, and wanting to make

others laugh-joking around

AWARENESS OF SURROUNDINGS (for autism) reported following gaze and more

interactions

FACIAL EXPRESSIONS more non-verbal communication, for oral apraxia more

expressions instead of blank stares when not engaged in conversation

FOCUS on task, more willing to listen and try

MULTI TASKING for those with motor planning impairments such as apraxia as this

is something typically not done or done well prior to NV

SOCIAL wanting to participate with others via play and communication

MOOD seems " happier " " easy going " , " no longer showing frustration "

BEHAVIOR normalization reported in a few cases of those with severe behavioral

issues of head banging, butting, hitting, aggression and anger issues

MUSIC increased interest in listening to, humming or singing music

DEVELOPMENTAL CATCHING UP for those that never went through stages -reportedly

going through them for the first time.

DECREASE IN SEIZURES so far in several cases elimination of any seizures and

headaches and decrease and elimination in seizure meds as well

IMAGINATIVE PLAY increase in imaginative play and story telling

IMPROVED DIET willingness to try more foods for those that were " picky eaters "

prior

Within 1 month or more:

SENSORY improvement in sensory awareness for those affected with sensory

integration dysfunction

GROWTH reported dramatic surges in height as well as increase in muscle and

normalization in weight

REFLEXES normalization of reflexes for those who had poor reflexes

TIC DISORDERS eliminated, even when under stress

http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit-of-research/

=====

[Guest guest]

Hi again Kathy!

That is great about all the progress areas- but I want to see if I can offer

help for the bowel movements he's slowly eliminating in his underpants one after

another where you have to keep changing his underwear as if it's a diaper. Have

you taken him yet to a pediatric gastroenterologist?

It is true that constipation can be extremely painful for them- but if he can go

a bit at a time in his underwear -why not just do a bit at a time in the potty?

As he's only doing this at home there appears to be an opening for behavioral

methods. When you say you did the treasure chest -I'm guessing you meant that

he got to choose a toy whenever he used the potty?

Here's one my son's pediatric gastroenterologist suggested to us

Behavior Modification -10 minutes daily -no distractions. Choose the same time

every day and have him sit on the potty. Seems after school would be a good

time.

Take him to the store and let him pick out a calendar and stickers. Each time

he makes a poop in the potty he gets to pick a sticker out and put it onto the

calendar for that week.

Use calendar stickers -every week reward for amount of poops in potty

2/ week something small

3-4 medium

5-7 large reward

The rewards can be things you would have done anyway -but things you know he

wants to do.

have you read my constipation archive? Let me know if you want me to repost it.

You can get digestive enzymes at health foods stores- through a doctor -online.

Here's one article http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsdosing.htm Again not all

parents that add them see more benefits with NV but some have. Accell which I

also mentioned was developed by the same doctors behind NV

http://pursuitofresearch.org/endorsed-by-the-chopra-center/ but in addition to

digestive enzymes it " contains an exclusive blend of Wild Crafted Organic

Ayurvedic herbs all 10:1 combined with Enzymes, Natural B-Vitamins, Ionic Trace

Minerals, Chromium and Greens " http://pursuitofresearch.org/products/accell/

While we do know NV works for just about all -not enough have used digestive

enzymes or Accell to know the percentage there yet -but again share all with

your child's doctor. If approved it's worth trying.

But again there has to be some more suggestions for you with the potty issue.

Again let me know if you want me to repost the information from Dr. that

helped Tanner back when he was 6

=====

[Guest guest]

Yes- in the treasure box were inexpensive things he really likes. No more than a

$1 or 2. Please repost the article if you don't mind.  I will try the calender

with stickers but I still may make an appt with the pediatric

gastroenterologist. Before he was trained at all, he would do one BM a day in

his diapers. I don't know why he started these small ones in his underwear. Even

when he was a pullup on for bed ,he will not just do a regular BM. It is still

little ones all the time. He even crosses is legs to try and stop it from 

coming.. I am going to pick up the enzymes , and try those first. Then maybe

move to the accell.

________________________________

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 10:27:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: when to increase dosage for fish oil and nv

 

Hi again Kathy!

That is great about all the progress areas- but I want to see if I can offer

help for the bowel movements he's slowly eliminating in his underpants one after

another where you have to keep changing his underwear as if it's a diaper. Have

you taken him yet to a pediatric gastroenterologist?

It is true that constipation can be extremely painful for them- but if he can go

a bit at a time in his underwear -why not just do a bit at a time in the potty?

As he's only doing this at home there appears to be an opening for behavioral

methods. When you say you did the treasure chest -I'm guessing you meant that he

got to choose a toy whenever he used the potty?

Here's one my son's pediatric gastroenterologist suggested to us

Behavior Modification -10 minutes daily -no distractions. Choose the same time

every day and have him sit on the potty. Seems after school would be a good

time.

Take him to the store and let him pick out a calendar and stickers. Each time he

makes a poop in the potty he gets to pick a sticker out and put it onto the

calendar for that week.

Use calendar stickers -every week reward for amount of poops in potty

2/ week something small

3-4 medium

5-7 large reward

The rewards can be things you would have done anyway -but things you know he

wants to do.

have you read my constipation archive? Let me know if you want me to repost it.

You can get digestive enzymes at health foods stores- through a doctor -online.

Here's one article http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsdosing.htm Again not all

parents that add them see more benefits with NV but some have. Accell which I

also mentioned was developed by the same doctors behind NV

http://pursuitofresearch.org/endorsed-by-the-chopra-center/ but in addition to

digestive enzymes it " contains an exclusive blend of Wild Crafted Organic

Ayurvedic herbs all 10:1 combined with Enzymes, Natural B-Vitamins, Ionic Trace

Minerals, Chromium and Greens " http://pursuitofresearch.org/products/accell/

While we do know NV works for just about all -not enough have used digestive

enzymes or Accell to know the percentage there yet -but again share all with

your child's doctor. If approved it's worth trying.

But again there has to be some more suggestions for you with the potty issue.

Again let me know if you want me to repost the information from Dr. that

helped Tanner back when he was 6

=====

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

If you are going to the doctor anyway, I'd ask him/her about probiotics first.

That really seems to be the one that helps with bowel issues.

I use the digestive enzymes with the NutriiVeda because it seems to enhance the

results we get for speech complexity (my son is now 11) as well as other areas.

My friends daughter has constipation issues and she is on probiotics. I also

use them myself to help stay regular.

So, ask the doctor first and see what is said.

Nth

Sandy

>

> Yes- in the treasure box were inexpensive things he really likes. No more than

a

> $1 or 2. Please repost the article if you don't mind.  I will try the

calender

> with stickers but I still may make an appt with the pediatric

> gastroenterologist. Before he was trained at all, he would do one BM a day in

> his diapers. I don't know why he started these small ones in his underwear.

Even

> when he was a pullup on for bed ,he will not just do a regular BM. It is still

> little ones all the time. He even crosses is legs to try and stop it from 

> coming.. I am going to pick up the enzymes , and try those first. Then maybe

> move to the accell.

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 10:27:44 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: when to increase dosage for fish oil and nv

>

>  

> Hi again Kathy!

>

> That is great about all the progress areas- but I want to see if I can offer

> help for the bowel movements he's slowly eliminating in his underpants one

after

> another where you have to keep changing his underwear as if it's a diaper.

Have

> you taken him yet to a pediatric gastroenterologist?

>

>

> It is true that constipation can be extremely painful for them- but if he can

go

> a bit at a time in his underwear -why not just do a bit at a time in the

potty?

> As he's only doing this at home there appears to be an opening for behavioral

> methods. When you say you did the treasure chest -I'm guessing you meant that

he

> got to choose a toy whenever he used the potty?

>

> Here's one my son's pediatric gastroenterologist suggested to us

>

> Behavior Modification -10 minutes daily -no distractions. Choose the same time

> every day and have him sit on the potty. Seems after school would be a good

> time.

>

> Take him to the store and let him pick out a calendar and stickers. Each time

he

> makes a poop in the potty he gets to pick a sticker out and put it onto the

> calendar for that week.

>

>

> Use calendar stickers -every week reward for amount of poops in potty

> 2/ week something small

> 3-4 medium

> 5-7 large reward

>

> The rewards can be things you would have done anyway -but things you know he

> wants to do.

>

>

> have you read my constipation archive? Let me know if you want me to repost

it.

>

> You can get digestive enzymes at health foods stores- through a doctor

-online.

> Here's one article http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsdosing.htm Again not all

> parents that add them see more benefits with NV but some have. Accell which I

> also mentioned was developed by the same doctors behind NV

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/endorsed-by-the-chopra-center/ but in addition to

> digestive enzymes it " contains an exclusive blend of Wild Crafted Organic

> Ayurvedic herbs all 10:1 combined with Enzymes, Natural B-Vitamins, Ionic

Trace

> Minerals, Chromium and Greens " http://pursuitofresearch.org/products/accell/

> While we do know NV works for just about all -not enough have used digestive

> enzymes or Accell to know the percentage there yet -but again share all with

> your child's doctor. If approved it's worth trying.

>

>

> But again there has to be some more suggestions for you with the potty issue.

> Again let me know if you want me to repost the information from Dr. that

> helped Tanner back when he was 6

>

> =====

>