Re: New Member saying Hello

[Guest guest]

Doug:

Welcome.!!!

Yes we are similar to the Zone, but calories per each person vary and many

follow the zone but many don't. Have you read Walford? You should start

there. Books and other readings are recommended on our site. Go to the

" files " on the home page and click. There will be good info to inform you

of what to read and introductions to what we're about. We mention the Zone

website as a matter of fact.

If you have any specific questions, ask away!

> Hi Guys!

>

> Read about you in the Wall Street Journal the other day. I've been a

> Zone Diet guy for about 10 years and you guys are very similar. In

> fact, by my calculations, the number of calories recommended for the

> Zone seems about the same as CR. I guess you guys are a little bit

> more restrictive, right?

>

> Is there any " rule of thumb " as far as how many calories to consume?

> Or is it best just to experiment and listen to your body?

>

> I'm looking forward to learning more about CR. Any advice for a

> Newbie is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Doug

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug and welcome the crsociety organization.

Regarding the Zone diet, most CRONies follow the recommendations of

Walford, with information available at

http://www.walford.com/index.html.

The main list at crsociety/ has a wider

audience and, although much science is discussed in their web site,

all issues are dealt with and thoroughly debated from the different

perspectives of the any members.

Cheers, Al.

> Hi Guys!

>

> Read about you in the Wall Street Journal the other day. I've been

a

> Zone Diet guy for about 10 years and you guys are very similar. In

> fact, by my calculations, the number of calories recommended for the

> Zone seems about the same as CR. I guess you guys are a little bit

> more restrictive, right?

>

> Is there any " rule of thumb " as far as how many calories to consume?

> Or is it best just to experiment and listen to your body?

>

> I'm looking forward to learning more about CR. Any advice for a

> Newbie is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Doug

[Guest guest]

Al: I certainly don't mind you pushing the main list.

but I notice that you're not doing the same for the support list (ie

pushing it on the main list). Although it's not a competition (at least not

for me) please be even-handed and not biased.

To be fair I think you need to tell Doug that newbies are not always treated

with kindness there (one of the discussions going on now in fact) and that's

one of the reasons this list exists.

on 6/5/2002 12:11 PM, old542000 at apater@... wrote:

> The main list at crsociety/ has a wider

> audience and, although much science is discussed in their web site,

> all issues are dealt with and thoroughly debated from the different

> perspectives of the any members.

>

> Cheers, Al.

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug, Some of us are attracted to the Sears Diet. Others are more inclined toward the prescription written by Roy Wolford. Focus more on body fat levels than on calories consumed. A number of us have purchased the Tanita scale, which measures body fat by electrical impedance. Read the archives for the last year or so to bring yourself up to speed. ----- Original Message ----- From: dougfromct2002 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:08 AMRead about you in the Wall Street Journal the other day. I've been a Zone Diet guy for about 10 years and you guys are very similar. In fact, by my calculations, the number of calories recommended for the Zone seems about the same as CR. I guess you guys are a little bit more restrictive, right?Is there any "rule of thumb" as far as how many calories to consume? Or is it best just to experiment and listen to your body?I'm looking forward to learning more about CR. Any advice for a Newbie is appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Many of us are very Zone-like in our diets. I am one of them. If you really

follow the Zone and eat good vegetables and fresh, whole foods, you have

been practicing CRON. Walford's book is very valuable and synthesizing the

two books is possible. If you lighten up a little on the strict ratio at

every meal, and pay a lot more attention to getting the RDAs, Zone can

transform into CRON. I find I have to stick with Zone tactics to get enough

protein on a really varied diet at 1000 KCAL or so per day.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dyana,

So sorry to hear of what you are going through. Why did insurance cancel you?

And I would think you could collect disability just on the scoliosis.

I would look into that. I can not imagine working in your condition now. You

need treatment.

I am not an expert but am reading that your back is in not good shape. I am

curious as to why your insurance would cancel. In your state do you qualify for

other aid?

I wish the best.

Barbara

dyana <dyana123_2000@...> wrote:

I am a 52 year old woman that has had back pain for about 30 years and

have just suffered until I could no longer stand it and found a lump

the size of a grapefruit in my rib cage (backside). Wanted to find out

if it was a tumor. Went to a Chiro and he said he would not touch me

because he wanted me to go to a spine DR. and so I did. I am trying to

keep this brief. Spine Doc ordered MRI and whooooh, I knew my back was

bad but it is very bad. Scoliosis which I knew 35 degree curve which

has caused a rib hump, (the lump). Also stenosis, spondysomething,

osteoarthritis, DDD, sciatia and disk bulge L-1 thru L-5, S-1. I'm

sure you guys know more about these ailments, I don't understand the

terms. All I know is I work full time and am in so much pain, most

days I wish I would not wake up. Insurance cancelled me so I can't

even try to get relief now. Any suggestions or QUESTIONS would be

appreciated. Bless all of you, Dyana