Guest guest Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Hi Cheryl, I agree with Demi about the magnesium. Demi not sure if you recall this but checking back you went through the same thing -but it was an NAET who recommended that you use both zinc and magnesium with NV and your daughter regressed. At that time I looked it up and fond that magnesium had numerous contraindications and as we don't know what aspect of NV is helping -to stop it -and as you found your daughter once again had surges after being taken off the magnesium. And as a side note to Demi CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR DAUGHTER'S THREE WORD SENTENCE!!!! Just read that and that is so awesome!! Cheryl about the constipation. I would continue with the normal amount of liquids which is what is normal for all...body weight divided in half is the approximate amount of ounces of liquid needed daily. I would either greatly lower the dosage of NV to 1/4 or 1/2 a scoop a day, or stop using the NV until your child is no longer constipated. Once she does move her bowels as she was constipated once, I would start her at the 1/2 scoop a day dosage and gradually increase her. Constipation would be the only reason not to start at the full dosage of NV and to work up to it instead. Some may have more toxins in them than others. NV has a natural detox from the foods in it, probably mainly the whey protein, but the waste will be pulled into the blood to the bowels and you want it to be eliminated. If it doesn't move out and sits there that's where one can become constipated. The bowel movements on NV are typically within the first week or so soft and foul smelling. The whey isolate protein plays a very important role of dramatically raising the antioxidant glutathione. " The antioxidant glutathione—critical for the body to excrete metals—typically works by binding to heavy metals, which the body then knows to eliminate. In 2004, researcher Jill , Ph.D., of the Arkansas School of Medicine, led a pioneering study that showed autistic kids had significantly less glutathione than typical kids—which put their bodies in a state of " constant oxidative stress. " In other words, autistic kids were genetically predisposed to have low glutathione levels, making them particularly susceptible to heavy metal toxicity. " (2) http://pursuitofresearch.org/2010/11/01/the-science-nutrition-and-special-needs/ About the salicylate content of the foods in it -we'd have to check each ingredient separately. Hopefully however Anne from Canada will update us about her child as she has a great lesson learned to share. She pulled her child off NV even though there were surges that " brought tears to her child's therapist's eyes " because one of the professionals working with her child felt her child needed to go on a strict SCD diet, and she originally was planning on adding the NV back -but some testing showed that her daughter was allergic to whey...so for the past year she has not had her daughter on NV. She recently saw a traditional medical doctor who did another test which found her daughter not allergic to NV and they started it again and as Anne just said to me on the phone they are seeing " massive surges " and her only regret is that they " lost a year " My point is that when it comes to autism and our kids today- there are probably more theories than there are drops of water in the ocean. We don't know what caused the rise of these disorders and that is the root question, and we don't know for sure what is going to help. So as far as salicylates, which we'd have to check each of the foods in NV. (see ingredient labels at bottom of page http://pursuitofresearch.org/products/nutriiveda/nutriiveda-ingredients/ ) it may be that once on NV what was an issue to your child prior, becomes a non issue as it is for the majority. Also to keep in mind is that there is a huge difference between supplementation and getting nutrients from food grade sources which is the purest form of supplementation. Each ingredient in NV is food grade, 100 percent natural, and each ingredient is tested free of heavy metals, herbicides, pesticides, hormones, and any synthetic contaminants. There are also no genetically altered foods or stimulants in NV. At this point it's been over a year and over one thousand children from just over 12 months to mainly 3 to 15 years old -but all ages up to 89 years old and we are seeing almost across the board results and a possibility that fish oils can be greatly reduced with no regression (which is amazing) and within 6 months to a year in some cases on NV -the NV can be stopped and all surges are maintained! We don't know if it's best to keep a maintenance dosage of even say a scoop a day as essential nutrients found in NV will be essential daily from diet for life...and clearly whatever is in NV either was missing from the diet prior -or perhaps just not able to be fully digested from previous the previous diet? http://pursuitofresearch.org/2011/01/19/one-year-later-a-possible-cure-through-e\ ssential-nutrition-for-autism-apraxia-etc/ (If anyone wants to be in touch with any parent or professional from any page just let me know -almost all are members here) Cheryl let us know how it goes! ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 & Demi - Thanks for the replies and all points well taken. I've taken special note of the magnesium. I was giving him Oxypowder, which supposedly isn't well absorbed into the bloodstream, but works like a charm for Zach's BMs. When i'm desperate, it's been a lifesaver. Good news is that Zach was much improved today after many BMs. He was quite pleasant today in comparison to yesterday. So will stop the magnesium and carry on with NV+EFA/EPA. He's cleaned out pretty good at the moment. How to keep that going, well, I'll look back through the posts and see what all has been suggested here. Cheryl Zach, 7 yo > > Hi Cheryl, > > I agree with Demi about the magnesium. Demi not sure if you recall this but checking back you went through the same thing -but it was an NAET who recommended that you use both zinc and magnesium with NV and your daughter regressed. At that time I looked it up and fond that magnesium had numerous contraindications and as we don't know what aspect of NV is helping -to stop it -and as you found your daughter once again had surges after being taken off the magnesium. And as a side note to Demi CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR DAUGHTER'S THREE WORD SENTENCE!!!! Just read that and that is so awesome!! > > Cheryl about the constipation. I would continue with the normal amount of liquids which is what is normal for all...body weight divided in half is the approximate amount of ounces of liquid needed daily. I would either greatly lower the dosage of NV to 1/4 or 1/2 a scoop a day, or stop using the NV until your child is no longer constipated. Once she does move her bowels as she was constipated once, I would start her at the 1/2 scoop a day dosage and gradually increase her. Constipation would be the only reason not to start at the full dosage of NV and to work up to it instead. Some may have more toxins in them than others. > > NV has a natural detox from the foods in it, probably mainly the whey protein, but the waste will be pulled into the blood to the bowels and you want it to be eliminated. If it doesn't move out and sits there that's where one can become constipated. The bowel movements on NV are typically within the first week or so soft and foul smelling. > > The whey isolate protein plays a very important role of > dramatically raising the antioxidant glutathione. " The antioxidant > glutathione—critical for the body to excrete metals—typically works by > binding to heavy metals, which the body then knows to eliminate. In > 2004, researcher Jill , Ph.D., of the Arkansas School of > Medicine, led a pioneering study that showed autistic kids had > significantly less glutathione than typical kids—which put their > bodies in a state of " constant oxidative stress. " In other words, > autistic kids were genetically predisposed to have low glutathione > levels, making them particularly susceptible to heavy metal toxicity. " > (2) > http://pursuitofresearch.org/2010/11/01/the-science-nutrition-and-special-needs/ > > About the salicylate content of the foods in it -we'd have to check each ingredient separately. Hopefully however Anne from Canada will update us about her child as she has a great lesson learned to share. She pulled her child off NV even though there were surges that " brought tears to her child's therapist's eyes " because one of the professionals working with her child felt her child needed to go on a strict SCD diet, and she originally was planning on adding the NV back -but some testing showed that her daughter was allergic to whey...so for the past year she has not had her daughter on NV. She recently saw a traditional medical doctor who did another test which found her daughter not allergic to NV and they started it again and as Anne just said to me on the phone they are seeing " massive surges " and her only regret is that they " lost a year " > > My point is that when it comes to autism and our kids today- there are probably more theories than there are drops of water in the ocean. We don't know what caused the rise of these disorders and that is the root question, and we don't know for sure what is going to help. So as far as salicylates, which we'd have to check each of the foods in NV. (see ingredient labels at bottom of page http://pursuitofresearch.org/products/nutriiveda/nutriiveda-ingredients/ ) it may be that once on NV what was an issue to your child prior, becomes a non issue as it is for the majority. > > Also to keep in mind is that there is a huge difference between supplementation and getting nutrients from food grade sources which is the purest form of supplementation. Each ingredient in NV is food grade, 100 percent natural, and each ingredient is tested free of heavy metals, herbicides, pesticides, hormones, and any synthetic contaminants. There are also no genetically altered foods or stimulants in NV. > > At this point it's been over a year and over one thousand children from just over 12 months to mainly 3 to 15 years old -but all ages up to 89 years old and we are seeing almost across the board results and a possibility that fish oils can be greatly reduced with no regression (which is amazing) and within 6 months to a year in some cases on NV -the NV can be stopped and all surges are maintained! We don't know if it's best to keep a maintenance dosage of even say a scoop a day as essential nutrients found in NV will be essential daily from diet for life...and clearly whatever is in NV either was missing from the diet prior -or perhaps just not able to be fully digested from previous the previous diet? > http://pursuitofresearch.org/2011/01/19/one-year-later-a-possible-cure-through-e\ ssential-nutrition-for-autism-apraxia-etc/ > (If anyone wants to be in touch with any parent or professional from any page just let me know -almost all are members here) > > Cheryl let us know how it goes! > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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